Well, being a kill story... there is a kill involved here. We've got a nice road here which is 4 lane with a HUGE island in between it. Every once in a while people use it for some light-to-light dragging. I was coming home from work pretty late a few nights back and saw a 335 coupe sitting at the light. Pulled up next to him and he looked over at me, it was on.

1st pull we did I completely smoked him between lights (almost 1 full car length) 2nd pull we did he was right on my side until I hit 70mph and I started pulling away. Just incase there were any cops around, I called it quits and went home.

The next day, riding around at night again, this time on the highway. 335 comes out of nowhere, different guy this time. He guns it and starts to pull away from me. I caught up in a second or two. He then slowed down so we could get even with each other and he started to pull away. Dumping the roadster into 3rd for a second and then slamming it into 4th, allowed me to keep up. I passed him within a few seconds, not going too fast. He disappeared in my rear view mirror.

So 2 instances of my M Roadster pulling away on the new 335... I guess the 335 just ain't that fast! I can't wait for the new M3! Now thats gonna be hard to beat!

BTW: I had a 335 try to step up whilst I was on my Ducati. LOL you can imagine how embarrassed he was.

Either you are highly modified or were racing against terrible drivers...

Which is the case?

The 335 is so much faster stock for stock it is unthinkable you pulled so easily on them.

if you are stock then Im gona have to call bs unless the 335 wasnt a good driver
but if you got the m50 mani, intake, exh, chip... or other mods then its definately believeable if the 335 is stock.

Good kill!

Na, my car ain't stock. Mostly lightened drivetrain (clutch, driveshaft) and of course intake/software. I can easily keep up with E46 M3's, though I can't pass'em. Though still, my car ain't puttin down THAT much more power.

I only mentioned this because I though the 335's were fast... If my lil POS can beat'em, they ain't THAT fast.

Na, my car ain't stock. Mostly lightened drivetrain (clutch, driveshaft) and of course intake/software. I can easily keep up with E46 M3's, though I can't pass'em. Though still, my car ain't puttin down THAT much more power.

I only mentioned this because I though the 335's were fast... If my lil POS can beat'em, they ain't THAT fast.
im on the same boat as you.
stock e46m3s ans stock 335s are about the same speed and the m3 is over rated as far as speed goes.
I beat e46 m3s and i dont even have cams or fi

Bs.

Bs.
elaborate plz:shifty

How about the stock numbers.

2000 M Roadster:

Power: SAE and 144 kW , 193 HP @ 5,500 rpm; 206 ft lb , 279 Nm @ 3,500 rpm


2006 335i

ase Number of Cylinders: 6 Base Engine Size: 3 liters Base Engine Type: Inline 6 Horsepower: 300 hp Max Horsepower: 5800 rpm Torque: 300 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 1400 rpm Drive Type: RWD


Umm-no.

Rogo

How about the stock numbers.

2000 Z3 2.8 Roadster:

Power: SAE and 144 kW , 193 HP @ 5,500 rpm; 206 ft lb , 279 Nm @ 3,500 rpm


Oopsy...

Those numbers are valid-wrong badge.

It's ugly regardless.

Rogo

^^

I don't get it...

his car has an S52, and those don't have 193hp, I am pretty sure... :dunno

lol nice bike
oh and uhhh really good kill lol

I'm only posting what is recorded what I've found for both cars.

There's no way in hell the OP could roll on a 335i - according to his list of mods.

Maybe it was a 'girl' that he ran. ;)

Rogo

Interesting !

I'm only posting what is recorded what I've found for both cars.

There's no way in hell the OP could roll on a 335i - according to his list of mods.

Maybe it was a 'girl' that he ran. ;)

Rogo
do you race at all?
i doubt you do.
best way to find these things out is accually doing it.
and I have found out that stock e46 m3s are overrated in speed. and my car wil pull on a stock 335 prety well. nuff said

I love how everybody loves to quote numbers and does the "bench racing" thing to try and disprove questionable races.:rolleyes It's even better when they don't even have their facts straight and have to through little disclaimers in like, "raced a girl", "still an ugly car" or "no way you can do that".

Just take it for what it's worth, unless you (anyone who questions the race) were personally there to witness it, how can you truthfully dispute it? And please don't go back to quoting numbers. I've seen races with a winner that should have never won, but none the less did. And it never mattered what "Road & Track" said.

and I have found out that stock e46 m3s are overrated in speed. and my car wil pull on a stock 335 prety well. nuff said

Ohh realllyyy?

Primary source material = video, you don't have it, nuff siad ;)

I race on an 7/934th oval circuit-not the street-and you wouldn't be able to keep up with my E46 let alone my Viggen.

Do you want a video or do you trust my post? How old are you wankers?

Estroil-LOL


Rogo

im a firm believer that anything can happen on the street . better driver . traction etc . there are many things than can factor in . good kill and good post

bs

Ohh realllyyy?

Primary source material = video, you don't have it, nuff siad ;)

I race on an 7/934th oval circuit-not the street-and you wouldn't be able to keep up with my E46 let alone my Viggen.

Do you want a video or do you trust my post? How old are you wankers?

Estroil-LOL


Rogo

I'm sorry, but theres no way you can redeem yourself as being a credible source in this thread.

I think I just remembered why I don't come in here often.

The 335 is so much faster stock for stock it is unthinkable you pulled so easily on them.

Yeah, teh 335 can kill any Corvette, dontcha know.

Ohh realllyyy?

Primary source material = video, you don't have it, nuff siad ;)

I race on an 7/934th oval circuit-not the street-and you wouldn't be able to keep up with my E46 let alone my Viggen.

Do you want a video or do you trust my post? How old are you wankers?

Estroil-LOL


Rogo

Subscribed....

Ohh realllyyy?

Primary source material = video, you don't have it, nuff siad ;)

I race on an 7/934th oval circuit-not the street-and you wouldn't be able to keep up with my E46 let alone my Viggen.

Do you want a video or do you trust my post? How old are you wankers?

Estroil-LOL


Rogo

hey noob aka saab master ill come back on this thread on wednesday nite with videos of me beating many different cars just for you sunshine:shine

untill then. try not to get your panties in a bunch. ;)

I've always thought that saab owners were a little weird.

I'm sorry, but theres no way you can redeem yourself as being a credible source in this thread.

I think I just remembered why I don't come in here often.

+1

-mike

Ohh realllyyy?

Primary source material = video, you don't have it, nuff siad ;)

I race on an 7/934th oval circuit-not the street-and you wouldn't be able to keep up with my E46 let alone my Viggen.

Do you want a video or do you trust my post? How old are you wankers?

Estroil-LOL


Rogo

quit spec racing.. because that makes u noober than rest of saab owners..

I had an E46 M3 (before I totaled) and I have a very good friend that bought a 335i. We ran it all the time and not once did the 335i came ehaed with neither driver. Also before the M3 had an M roadster(S52) with dinan exaust, software, trotle body, air intake, flow meter, and that car was sold to a very good friend here in Atlanta. We still hang out all the time and did run the M roady against the M3 vert and the 335i along with a friend who has an Evo Mr9. The outcome was allways 1st. M3. 2nd. M roady. 3rd. Evo Mr( until he started to mod) 4rd. 335i. All was very close. I don't understand much of horsepower and torque figures but in real life I raced so many cars. The numbers sometimes doesn't mean anything. Because the M3 and the M roadster were so close within 0.5 cars of each other and 335i behind another car lenght or so. Go figure.

Yeah, teh 335 can kill any Corvette, dontcha know.

Where did you read this in my post?

I asked a venerable question; full torque in the low 2k range is ridiculous...I have an s52 M3 and have driven the 335 and the power of the 335 is noticably stronger. The weight difference of the M3 and the Coupe is not enough to negate this disparity.

I asked if the guys driving the 335 sucked; they must have, because STOCK FOR STOCK, the 335 owns.

The original post does not provide valid details to verify the "kill". That's all.

Why is the guy with the saab even here? Isn't this a BMW forum? Or did you used to or plan to own a bimmer?

Has anyone read the Saab guy's signature?


He's a complete douche. His facts are wrong and his arguments are feeble at best.

Good run man, I completely think you took him with some light mods. I was running dead even when i had light mods against e46m3 back then. I remember weighting in my car at weight station stock it was 2960lbs. now weight matters alot. Good Run!!!!

How about the stock numbers.

2000 M Roadster:

Power: SAE and 144 kW , 193 HP @ 5,500 rpm; 206 ft lb , 279 Nm @ 3,500 rpm

Umm-no.

Rogo

Umm-no.

i can't imagine how embarassed you must feel coming onto this thread and calling BS while not having the slightest clue about the car you are talking about.

Cool Slaab by the way

I only mentioned this because I though the 335's were fast... If my lil POS can beat'em, they ain't THAT fast.Sacrilege!

Though I completely agree with you. The hype makes them seem faster than they are.

I ran another 6-speed 335i the other day...guy couldn't drive very well and I took him by 3 cars to the middle of 4th. :rofl

Good run man, I completely think you took him with some light mods. I was running dead even when i had light mods against e46m3 back then. I remember weighting in my car at weight station stock it was 2960lbs. now weight matters alot. Good Run!!!!
if I could only trust one person on this board it would be you considering you have one of the fastest mz3's in the world.

your a smart man

Nice kill!

FYI: the 335 is the new 318

if I could only trust one person on this board it would be you considering you have one of the fastest mz3's in the world.

your a smart man

thanks man, im very flattered. :buttrock

Stock for stock, there are many newer cars now faster than our s50 and s52engines...get over it....the e36M3 was fast in its era but let it go...it only has 240hp.

Most stories here are true, but many are BS, unless the drivers of the faster cars are noobies or were not driving their cars to the limits.

Stock for stock, there are many newer cars now faster than our s50 and s52engines...get over it....the e36M3 was fast in its era but let it go...it only has 240hp.

Most stories here are true, but many are BS, unless the drivers of the faster cars are noobies or were not driving their cars to the limits.
lol
yea I guess my lil ol na s52 is slow... it can only beat e46m3s and stock 335s :(
poor ol me :rolleyes

add a PROcede to the 335 and its a whole different outcome

add a PROcede to the 335 and its a whole different outcome

add a TT stage 2 to the M roady and then 335i gets raped. The point is that the you can add this or add that and the outcome of course would be different.

good kill to the OP. You were the better driver in both cases.

How about the stock numbers.

2000 M Roadster:

Power: SAE and 144 kW , 193 HP @ 5,500 rpm; 206 ft lb , 279 Nm @ 3,500 rpm


2006 335i

ase Number of Cylinders: 6 Base Engine Size: 3 liters Base Engine Type: Inline 6 Horsepower: 300 hp Max Horsepower: 5800 rpm Torque: 300 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 1400 rpm Drive Type: RWD


Umm-no.

Rogo

2000 M Roadster = 240 horse.

There's a little ratio to which I will now introduce you: Horsepower/Weight.

Here's a variable to be considered as well: Driver.

Add turbo to my bicycle and 335i and M roadster gets raped.

Add turbo to my bicycle and 335i and M roadster gets raped.

AHAHAHAHA. QFT!!

Add turbo to my bicycle and 335i and M roadster gets raped.

I add nitrous to mine and all I got was date rapped.


335 is no slouch but it does weigh more then the MRoady(s52), so it's to be expected.

I've always thought that saab owners were a little weird.

Not weird, just different, queer, peculiar, curious.

How about the stock numbers.

2000 M Roadster:

Power: SAE and 144 kW , 193 HP @ 5,500 rpm; 206 ft lb , 279 Nm @ 3,500 rpm


2006 335i

ase Number of Cylinders: 6 Base Engine Size: 3 liters Base Engine Type: Inline 6 Horsepower: 300 hp Max Horsepower: 5800 rpm Torque: 300 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 1400 rpm Drive Type: RWD


Umm-no.

Rogo


Just shutup.

im going to jump in here....

this is besides the point but i RAPED a 335 the other day

anyway im sorry but that car is over-rated, ive driven and s52 m coupe with some mods, and ive driven a stock 335, they dont feel any different to me

i find it funny how some saab guy thinks he knows bimmers and quotes the wrong numbers, says some bs, and says oooo my car is better anyway, then exclaims the ///m is ugly anyway, when almost everyone (i mean bmw owners and OTHER) all accept that it is basically a classic car in the making

s52's with slight mods pull on 350's they pull on g35's they pull on stock evos and sti's why would it be so different with a stock 335 that basically is in the same hp/tq range but weighs a million pounds?


sorry your tasteless comments are unnecessary nor are they factual in anyway as obviously you have no real world experience nor are you aware of the various factors involved with a race on the street

granted, lets take this example off the street and to the 1/4 mile

i might run sayyyyyy a 13.1 with my car, but my buddy down the street would run like a 13.6 bc hes not as good of a driver, granted if i gave my car to ulysses or kenny, they would probaly blast a 12.8 or 12.9, as they are obviously more experienced than i am

therefore, if we arent just talking about the cars, the driver has a lot to do with the situation

i have nothing more to say bc this is absolutely the most rediculous conversation that has risen here since people started bringing up how s54's shit on the g35's and 350's and all the guido's and ricers showed up with their panties in a bunch bc they couldnt believe it

buddy accept it, the man posting is eminating with knowledge of these cars, hes not going to make up some story for no reason, and its not like hes the FIRST person to ever say he beat a 335, they are not the greatest things since sliced bread, im sorry its just another car that has been hyped up and people think its faster than it is in stock form bc how much people talk about it, honestly im gettin upset here talking as much as i am because some people are seriously just so stupid

Take it easy on the guy. This forum welcomes drivers of all makes and models. Yes, he screwed up, but take the hostility down a notch.

Yes, he screwed up, but take the hostility down a notch.

I never get involved in the flaming, so as a spectator of sorts I'll say there's a big difference between "screwing up" and trolling. I'll let you figure out which one he's been doing ever since he first posted here.

Although he (mz4speed4me) may be speaking towards the saab guy, I think that alot of that goes to other posters as well with the whole "bench racing" thing. As I mentioned before, let's just take it (all kill posts) at face value and try and enjoy the read instead of turning stuff into a flamefest. I'm not trying to include specific people, but I know if you read the post some people make on this forum, you know what I'm talking about. Let's just slap the winner on the back and say "good job", regardless of what he/she drives, and if need be, snicker to yourself when you do it. :dunno

im going to jump in here....

this is besides the point but i RAPED a 335 the other day

anyway im sorry but that car is over-rated, ive driven and s52 m coupe with some mods, and ive driven a stock 335, they dont feel any different to me


s52's with slight mods pull on 350's they pull on g35's they pull on stock evos and sti's why would it be so different with a stock 335 that basically is in the same hp/tq range but weighs a million pounds?



yes i would agree

mz4speed4me, nice lotus in your sig. I was at the track this weekend and there were a bunch of them hauling. Very impressive on the track.

nice kill man..

nice kills.. thought maybe you could explain specifics a little better ( what gear how fast etc).

Guys,

C'mon now, play nice. OK, I will have to say that 300 hp and 300 ft-lbs in a 3571 lb car does not equal slow car. That being said, I have no idea how much power the S52 engine puts out or how much the car weighs. Now, that does not mean that I think that it's a slow car or that I'm saying that anyone is full of b.s. So does anyone know what these specs are?

I've got 993 miles on my car now, and I'd line up against a stock M roadster (U.S. spec) in 7 miles and not expect to be embarassed.

Guys,

C'mon now, play nice. OK, I will have to say that 300 hp and 300 ft-lbs in a 3571 lb car does not equal slow car. That being said, I have no idea how much power the S52 engine puts out or how much the car weighs. Now, that does not mean that I think that it's a slow car or that I'm saying that anyone is full of b.s. So does anyone know what these specs are?

I've got 993 miles on my car now, and I'd line up against a stock M roadster (U.S. spec) in 7 miles and not expect to be embarassed.

What is the 335i 6mt supposed to do in the 1/4? I am pretty sure that the S52 is outmatched by the 335i on a straight line ON PAPER. With that said, the driver is what won this match and others that have happened. I am pretty sure that the 335i is faster then the S52 roady.

Good kill.

What is the 335i 6mt supposed to do in the 1/4? I am pretty sure that the S52 is outmatched by the 335i on a straight line ON PAPER. With that said, the driver is what won this match and others that have happened. I am pretty sure that the 335i is faster then the S52 roady.


suppose to do mid 13's

stock for stock ...........335 Better win

Guys,

C'mon now, play nice. OK, I will have to say that 300 hp and 300 ft-lbs in a 3571 lb car does not equal slow car. That being said, I have no idea how much power the S52 engine puts out or how much the car weighs. Now, that does not mean that I think that it's a slow car or that I'm saying that anyone is full of b.s. So does anyone know what these specs are?

I've got 993 miles on my car now, and I'd line up against a stock M roadster (U.S. spec) in 7 miles and not expect to be embarassed.

M roadster before 2001 had 240 HP ....2001 and after 315hp

Mag racing numbers for pre-2001 is 5.4 to 60 and 13.8 in the 1/4.
Mag raing numbers for 2007 335I is 4.8 to 60 and 13.6 in th 1/4.

M roadster before 2001 had 240 HP ....2001 and after 315hp

Mag racing numbers for pre-2001 is 5.4 to 60 and 13.8 in the 1/4.
Mag raing numbers for 2007 335I is 4.8 to 60 and 13.6 in th 1/4.

that's not too bad
with the mods he had should sound about right




plus driver plays

that's not too bad
with the mods he had should sound about right




plus driver plays

Yep and you have to understand that 2 tenths is pretty much 2 cls. That can be made up easily by a better driver. I beat many cars I should not have beat down the track because I was the better driver.

HA! I beat a 400hp LS2 GTO down the 1/4 mile track and it wasn't even my best time! His car was sooo much faster then mine, but I was the better driver and got down the track quicker.

I saw him run after I ran against me and he couldn't launch or shift worth poop! He was spinning all the way through 1st and 2nd and chirping 2nd to 3rd HARD! That run he ran a 14.4 or something like that. When he ran against me I ran a 13.71( missed 4th...how i don't know) and he ran a 14.2 if i recall.

"A car is only as fast as the driver".

OK, I will have to say that 300 hp and 300 ft-lbs in a 3571 lb car does not equal slow car.No, but it does equal glorified Mustang.

At least you get some semblance of luxury and a respectable hood ornament. Ok, and no live-axle rear, either.

well in my defense.... ive been here quite a while, and have seen my share of a-holes on this board, and am sick of them just showing up and having no respect for anyone and just saying what they want...

i agree we should just let a kill post be just that, congratulate the guy and call it a day, dont start throwin a pissy fit because you simply cant believe something

either way, i stand by what i say... and hope that you find another 335 soon and make him feel silly too

Valve FTW-Chris is the man-lovely sig pic mz

Rogo

Yep and you have to understand that 2 tenths is pretty much 2 cls. That can be made up easily by a better driver. I beat many cars I should not have beat down the track because I was the better driver.

HA! I beat a 400hp LS2 GTO down the 1/4 mile track and it wasn't even my best time! His car was sooo much faster then mine, but I was the better driver and got down the track quicker.

I saw him run after I ran against me and he couldn't launch or shift worth poop! He was spinning all the way through 1st and 2nd and chirping 2nd to 3rd HARD! That run he ran a 14.4 or something like that. When he ran against me I ran a 13.71( missed 4th...how i don't know) and he ran a 14.2 if i recall.

"A car is only as fast as the driver".

very true. i ran my buddys 06 gto and beat him all 5 rounds cause he couldnt drive for shit, and posted it here but people were just saying a bunch of bull. i even beated him from a roll 3 times, he had a camera man but, was too embarrased to give me the video cause he know i was going to post it up.