I should be getting my bonus at work b/t November 07 and January 08. I know this is a ways off, but I want to have everything ready.

I am looking to buy a Euro M5 1st and foremost preferably with a 6 speed and grey alcantra interior. I would also be open to looking at a pristine US one as well. I toyed with the idea of the Alpina B10, but my budget will be $30k and I am sure that a nice B10 will be tough to find for that price.

I am open to all colors except silver or red. If anyone has been thinking of selling theres in the next few months to a year, please let me know so we can exchange info. I am not in any rush so if I have to wait for the right one, I don't mind.

Thanks,

Brandon

for 30k your definetly on e39 m5 territory! why not go for the e39?

edit: I love e34s! but I just can justify paying 30k for one!

As much as I do love the E39 M5, I would honestly rather have a euro E34 M5. So much more of a purist car. The only thing I like better about the E39 than the E34 is the interior. The styling of the E34 is timeless!!!! For $30k, I want a perfect E34 M5 rather than a nice E39

I have both (e39 and e34) and the e34 is the best interior i have had to date. The e39 MOTOR, on the other hand...

I have both (e39 and e34) and the e34 is the best interior i have had to date. The e39 MOTOR, on the other hand...

ENGINE. Motor does not equal Engine.

:rolleyes

B10 will be more than $30k.

My 91 Alpine White will be up for sale this summer. It is pristine and has a distinguished list of owners.

You need to get in touch with the guys at willz.ca

B10 will be more than $30k.

My 91 Alpine White will be up for sale this summer. It is pristine and has a distinguished list of owners.

I would love to talk to you about the alpine. I am biased to alpine white of coarse, but would also be interested in black or any variation of dark blue metallic. Unfortunately end of summer will probably be too soon. I don't want to borrow any money so I will need the bonus first.




willz.ca?????? Tell me more. I am unfamiliar

http://willz.ca/indexold.htm

clevertd, We need to get up next time I am in Charlotte. A few of my friends live there, one of which has a father who is top dog at American Tire distributors. They have a sick lineup of cars.

clevertd, We need to get up next time I am in Charlotte. A few of my friends live there, one of which has a father who is top dog at American Tire distributors. They have a sick lineup of cars.

Definitely, hopefully you'll have your car back by then and I'd love to see said lineup of cars. I came through Richmond back in October while driving back from D.C... and provided I don't mess anything up with my current engineering classes, I'll be up in Raleigh in the fall.

I should be getting my bonus at work b/t November 07 and January 08. I know this is a ways off, but I want to have everything ready.

I am looking to buy a Euro M5 1st and foremost preferably with a 6 speed and grey alcantra interior. I would also be open to looking at a pristine US one as well. I toyed with the idea of the Alpina B10, but my budget will be $30k and I am sure that a nice B10 will be tough to find for that price.

I am open to all colors except silver or red. If anyone has been thinking of selling theres in the next few months to a year, please let me know so we can exchange info. I am not in any rush so if I have to wait for the right one, I don't mind.

Thanks,

Brandon

Get your wallet ready first then do it the old fashioned way and find a pristine one owner late model 95 with all the goodies in Europe. :buttrock

There are many around to help bring it to the States like WillZ or Saliya. Trust me, it will make for a much more rewarding ownership experience in the long run. And by doing it that way, you can pack the container with all kinds of Euro stuff you pick up at the BMW warehouse or on EBay de since you have a whole container paid for coming back to the states. If I could do it over again, I would be loading up that container with all kinds of Euro only stuff. :devillook

Will that fit my price range? I worry about shipping costs and legalization fees. Trust me..... That is what I would prefer in order to get the right color combo.

Is that what you did?

Will that fit my price range? I worry about shipping costs and legalization fees. Trust me..... That is what I would prefer in order to get the right color combo.

Is that what you did?

Yes and yes. I posted the breakdown of the costs of acquiring mine along with some initial sorting costs in the how much did your E34 cost thread. You can probably do even better today than I did back in fall '01 and into spring of '02.

Oh, it did take a while to find one with manual cloth interior. I got a lightweight compared to most. :D

:evil2 I'm guessing your not interested in selling it......?

:evil2 I'm guessing your not interested in selling it......?

Got a cosmos Alpina B10BT? might be up for a trade.... :devillook

PM me if you ever want to discuss some ideas. I also met up a couple times the guy in Dallas who imported a cosmos touring with BMW Individual buffalo interior. He was the dude that ended up getting published in Roundel. Word has it he sold his car and its now in Austin, I think. We both have some wins and losses on the importation deal.

No doubt about it-M5s are in a class of their own-but have you considered a 540 Sport? A nice one won't be any easier to find than a perfect Euro E34 M5 (actually fewer made) but consider 1)1995 build date, 2) M60 V8 engine (and don't get all lathered up about the Nikasil/Alusil issue), 3) one of the penultimate BMW collector cars, 3) lower maintenance costs than M5.

Just a thought..............

yea, but it's missing the S38... It's just not the same...

I actually was looking at a local M540 sport. He is a member here. Jon E28 I think. Anyway, I loved his car and got to drive it. Terrific performance and feel. Unfortunately it was silver and as beautiful as it is, I just don't think silver looks right on the E34.

I have seen several for sale, but as skateparks stated.....It doesn't have the S38. I do however plan on getting an M540 sport in a year or so after I get the M5. Many of the seasoned members know that I want 3 E34's. I plan on keeping mine as a daily driver in addition to the other two. I may even do FI on the M50.

It is very, very hard to find a pristine example(s). I am in the same boat, NO rush. Looking (peeking)everywhere more or less, but something will eventualy show up! :)

There is an issue with the longevity of the 3.8 rod bearings. BMW changed them and any detonation can muck them up pretty quickly. If you get one I would recommend having the pan pulled and the rod bearings replaced every so often.

This M5 here has been for sale for quite some time now near where I live, it's a gorgeous car but these types of cars have a hard time selling in this area.

http://www.bmwpower.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7200

Not to be a Debbie-Downer but that car is not federalized (can't come into the States) and, given the mileage, has not sold because it is very overpriced.

Not to be a Debbie-Downer but that car is not federalized (can't come into the States) and, given the mileage, has not sold because it is very overpriced.

The mileage is in kilometres... 120 miles is nothing for a s38. 16000 can $ is a really good price for that car! plus its euro!

16000 can $ is a really good price for that car! Not when you consider the cost of federalizing it to make it legal down here.

plus its euro! but a 3.6 Euro is still a 3.6.

I don't really know if it helps, but the car is now officially a Canadian, as it has now been brought up to Canadian safety standards. So bringing it into the US shouldn't be an issue, as your argument would be that it's technically now a Canadian car, not Euro, but I have no idea. Would take some research anyhow. So I don't know what federalization standards it would need to meet, but you should only have to do those that would apply to a Canadian M5.

nope, it's still a Euro.

Not when you consider the cost of federalizing it to make it legal down here..

I didnt saw it that way! You are right...

nope, it's still a Euro.

Ditto. In order not to go through the costly and time consuming federalization process a car has to be either US market or Canadian market. Euro cars made to meet Canada standards are not Canadian market.

Which is why I think the best place to get low mileage M cars from now is Japan, as many of them are US spec. Of course this doesn't help if you want euro options.

I wouldn't go through any trouble like that for a 3.6 Euro. The reason I want a Euro M5 is for the 3.8 and the 6 speed.

http://willz.ca/indexold.htm

Are those Style 5's on the Black M5?

This M5 here has been for sale for quite some time now near where I live, it's a gorgeous car but these types of cars have a hard time selling in this area.

http://www.bmwpower.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7200
Thank You, was not aware of this link.
Greatly Appreciated!:thumbup:

You just haven't seen the right silver car in person! I don't think the silver cars work with the stock t-stars or the turbines. To bland. Even the M-pars don't to it for me on silver cars. You need something with a serious lip on it to give it that bad ass edge. T-stars with the covers painted Diamonshwarz look pretty sick on silver cars too.


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I wouldn't go through any trouble like that for a 3.6 Euro. The reason I want a Euro M5 is for the 3.8 and the 6 speed.

Then you are talking 95's only, and there were not many of those made. The 3.8 came along in 93, I think, but the 6 speed is a 95 only deal.

Then you are talking 95's only, and there were not many of those made. The 3.8 came along in 93, I think, but the 6 speed is a 95 only deal.

Close! 3.8 came in 1992.


I love the E34 M5 in silver. But I agree it is all with the wheels, which I prefer my silvers to have M Parallels or highly polished Knesis wheels.

I wouldn't go through any trouble like that for a 3.6 Euro. The reason I want a Euro M5 is for the 3.8 and the 6 speed.

Being one who saved up money for almost 3 years to get mine, I would totally agree with THAT statement.

BTW - I was back in Dallas last week arranging my return from my 2 year work assignment and got to drive it. First time in like 6 months. I forgot how much it sounds like a litre bike on full wail at 5k. :redspot

Given how expensive it is to snag the car and deal with the federalization, why not simply update a US M5 with the components you want? Sure, the resale won't be as good, but the insurace will be much easier to deal with. One of my friend's friends (yeah, not confusing at all) has a kit/specialty car, and getting the DMV to accept it was a huge hassle. (Ultima GTR with a crazy FI-ed/Nitrous-ed LS7 engine, it is stupid fast)

You could likely snag a complete short block and a Euro six speed for between 10-13k US. Alternatively, you could just get the parts you'd need, like the crank/con rods/cams and the trans for a lot less. Then you could have a built S38B38. It may be cheaper, and could be considerably more powerful than the stock 3.8. It would still be very unique, as the only built S38's I've seen are with the Sweeds, making 1000+ hp.

Ive always been tempted to go for a Euro E34 M5. I nearly bought Wasmer's ex-Oxford Green M5, which was rearended under the ownership of a subsequent purchaser, but then I had to step back and assess whether I was really gaining anything. 30hp, some torque, 6-speeds, some nifty euro equipment, hmm all very desirable.

But then again, I didnt want to deal with the hassle of the euro parts, the EDC pain in the ass situation, and the time problems. I can pay for it, it is just that I am impatient as hell and I dont want to dick around with euro parts. Maybe when more euro's are imported into the US and federalized and then de-federalized after DOT has issued certification, maybe I will go for it. I think the US 3.6, particularly the 1991's with the 3.91 rear end are excellent performing machines and might be more harmonious with the M5 concept of peaky power (this might be tenuous, but it is a justification in my mind).

I should have bought Wasmers as it would have been a fun car to have in the collection, but after missing that opportunity, I do not want to wait the 6 months or whatever it is to have a car federalized.

Also, the costs and lenght of time involved when federalizing a CDN market car is considerably less than an Euro market. I think the majority of the cost is duty upon production of title (but a way around this is a memorandum/receipt of sale with a low price amount stated). The other spendy item is an US spec gauge cluster, but this can be waived.

One of my friend's friends (yeah, not confusing at all) has a kit/specialty car, and getting the DMV to accept it was a huge hassle. (Ultima GTR with a crazy FI-ed/Nitrous-ed LS7 engine, it is stupid fast)


I built up a FFR 427SC Roadster and encountered no problems with title, registration and DOT cert. Getting an insurer to initially insure it was the problem, but once I found a company that would insure it, I had the policy for 6 months, then obtained insurance under my umbrella policy, and terminated the initial insurance contract.

The key is what you get it titled as. The CO Highway Patrol handles the certification and basically the DMV processing, so I told them the engine was an old 1970 block, thus escaping emissions testing. They didnt even bother to look for the VIN or ask for it. This was huge in getting the car titled and certified with ease, but possibly created some consternation for the insurers. After the CO vin was issued, the car is simply just a custom car. No real description, so an independent assessor must have a look at it.

I want the grey M alcantra interior also

you can buy Alcantara interiors from Saliya for $3k. Put it in a US spec car and sell the leather interior for $2k...

I happen to be considering selling my PRISTINE 66k car (alpine/black) but by November I'll either want to keep it or have it sold. Too bad you weren't looking now before I change my mind...

Haha. Indeed. I would love to have an alpine white M5!!! I know that is pretty much impossible for the Euro car b/c they don't like white for whatever reason.

BTW, regarding other posts reccomending that I build my own.... After $3k for the interior and several grand for the engine mods, plus the hassle of soing all the work, why wouldn't I just spend the extra $10k on a real Euro M5? I am patient and can wait. I would much rather buy a Euro M5 that someone in the states already owns, but I really want a true well taken care of low mileage Euro M5

Ive always been tempted to go for a Euro E34 M5. I nearly bought Wasmer's ex-Oxford Green M5, which was rearended under the ownership of a subsequent purchaser

Yes, that was my friend Jim Davis in Texas. We've known each other for years through the firstfives E12 list, but he bought his euro 3.8 before I bought mine. Jim bought the Wasmer 6/95 build green car. And Jim was rear-ended last July by some dipshit from a Merc dealership in an e-class at 40mph, completely destroying the rear of the M5. It was purchased at the insurance auction for close to $10K, so someone might be intending to rebuild it and sell it. Be on the lookout.

My '94 3.8 is currently for sale by that car locators place in Ohio. :rolleyes I sold it for $17K which was on the lower side and a screaming deal, but I had many people hem and haw about the car even at that price (it had been repainted, had stone chips from me driving it a lot, and some panels replaced before the repaint by the owner in Germany). I offered it for sale on this site, and the Car Locator's guy called me after I posted it on the CCA and bimmer.org classifieds. He never told me he planned to try flipping it for $28K though............... :nono

My point is, if I were you and planning this far in advance, I would talk to Saliya about importing the right car. He has some incredible contacts over in Europe for finding cars and can get you something incredibly rare and special. I loved the 2 years owning my '94 3.8, but now that I've been-there-done-that, if I bought another E34 M5, I would have to do a '95 with the big brakes, 6spd, and other goodies. But I know you have to expect to pay to play for a 1995 M5. :shifty

Also whatever 3.8 car you get, unless you have documented proof that it was already done, make sure you replace the rod bearings with OEM components! They lead hard lives at high revs on the autobahn.

Haha. Indeed. I would love to have an alpine white M5!!! I know that is pretty much impossible for the Euro car b/c they don't like white for whatever reason.

They liked white on my E12 M535i back in 1980! :)

Im sorry...why did you spend all the money having your 525 fixed if this was your plan?

B/c I don't have my bonus yet. And I would rather spend the money fixing mine rather than buy another one and no know what I had. Regardless, the 525 will be my daily and will hopefully have a turbo one day. The M5 will be rarely driven.

I also had no idea it would take this long to have worked on. The guy only does porsche, benz and BMW as well as old customs. I was on his waiting list for a while