View Full Version : Honest question: 335i vs G37 coupe


BMW Newbie
04-19-2007, 07:57 PM
I think BMW makes great cars and I am not bashing, but recently I have been very impressed with what I've read about the new G37 coupe, which will basically be the fastest thing you can get until the new M3 (but far less costly maintenance than the M3). In addition, I've read that it has the same, if not better handling as the BMW, and if the current G35 pricing is any indication, with leather, nav, and the premium package (including BT), it will cost less than the 335i stock. Initially I was thinking of the 335i, but now I am wondering if the G37 will be better.

Converted
04-19-2007, 08:00 PM
The Infiniti has NO driving soul whatsoever... you feel completely disconnected from the road when you're driving. It goes fast in a straight line, but other than that, the car is NOT a sporty car. Comfortable and nice, but not sporty, besides it's straight-line speed.

shifty711
04-19-2007, 08:05 PM
The Infiniti has NO driving soul whatsoever... you feel completely disconnected from the road when you're driving. It goes fast in a straight line, but other than that, the car is NOT a sporty car. Comfortable and nice, but not sporty, besides it's straight-line speed.

How would you know? Its not even out yet my friend.

I am wondering my self. I have driven the 335ci many times. Here is my review.

Dislikes
-Handling
-Body role
-Brakes
-Gear Box
-Lack of LSD

Likes
-Styling
-Interior
-Acceleration

I would say, wait for the G37 to release, drive them both, come to a conclusion.

jerkstore
04-19-2007, 08:39 PM
I would be interested in the G37. I used to have a 1994 J30t (ancestor of the G35) and it was an amazing car. Great handling and speed but lacked a MT. I would even consider getting another one if the car was in good condition.

BMW Newbie
04-19-2007, 08:40 PM
I would say, wait for the G37 to release, drive them both, come to a conclusion
right, good point. and that is what I plan to do exactly. but from what I've read I've been really impressed. I supposed the 3/36 vs the 4/50 warranty is one thing to look at ..

jerkstore
04-19-2007, 08:43 PM
If you get one be sure to get the 4 wheel steering, I had that on my J30t and it gave it amazing handling on the freeway.

PhilG
04-19-2007, 08:46 PM
The Infiniti has NO driving soul whatsoever... you feel completely disconnected from the road when you're driving. It goes fast in a straight line, but other than that, the car is NOT a sporty car. Comfortable and nice, but not sporty, besides it's straight-line speed.

This is my issue with all non-euro imports I've driven. They're great cars, completely reliable, sterile and absolutely no fun to drive. They isolate the driver from the road. I've had nothing but German cars since 1972 when I bought my first BMW - a red 2002! With my '04 C4S, it just reinforces to me how good, connected, and FUN these cars are. German auto manufacturers get it.

cemman
04-19-2007, 09:31 PM
I agree with everyone else. The numbers will look very similar, but once you've sat in and driven both you will form a strong opinion. I have nothing against Japanese cars and have owned a few, but the difference is remarkable. It will come down to which you like better.

Tony P
04-19-2007, 09:53 PM
If you want to impress someone, get the G37. If you want to really impress someone, get the 335i.

KPACOTKA
04-19-2007, 10:06 PM
If you really want to impress someone buy Ferrari. If you want to save money, then buy G37. If you want to get pleasure from your purchase, I guess you know what to do.

shifty711
04-20-2007, 12:52 AM
This is my issue with all non-euro imports I've driven. They're great cars, completely reliable, sterile and absolutely no fun to drive. They isolate the driver from the road. I've had nothing but German cars since 1972 when I bought my first BMW - a red 2002! With my '04 C4S, it just reinforces to me how good, connected, and FUN these cars are. German auto manufacturers get it.

Buddy, 35 years have gone by. Things Change. Im guessing you are not the same today as you were 35 years ago. I would not give your advice any credit at all. You have a 35 year old bias. You are probably the worst possible persone to chime in for advice on this thread at this time. No offense.

shifty711
04-20-2007, 12:54 AM
If you want to impress someone, get the G37. If you want to really impress someone, get the 335i.

Who cares about impressing people. If you want to satisfy yourself, drive both and come to a conclusion. If I wanted to impress people, I would spend all of my money on plastic surgery and enzyte. Then again, im not a vain douche bag. :lol

shifty711
04-20-2007, 12:59 AM
right, good point. and that is what I plan to do exactly. but from what I've read I've been really impressed. I supposed the 3/36 vs the 4/50 warranty is one thing to look at ..

Service is a big seller. I love my Z but I hate Nissan Service. My previous car was an e46 330ci. The dealership I bought it from has been the best in the country for the past 4 years. Combine that with a great waranty and it makes a purchase descision very difficult.

Like I have said many times, Do what is best for you.

Snowkone
04-20-2007, 02:06 AM
(This is coming from someone who's recently owned an Acura and Lexus)

I've driven Acura's and Lexus' for a combined 10 years. As mentioned before, they are comfortable cars, have good to great amenities, and are wallet-friendly priced, but the thing both have lacked are the drive. I never considered BMW because I thought I could get the same thing but at a lower price.

When deciding on my current car (335i Coupe), I drove the comparable ones from Japan including the IS350 & GS430 (really a 5-Series competitor),TL Type-S, and the current G35 sedan and the last model G35 coupe. In the end, the Japanese offer the best bang for the buck, but when it comes to the sheer pleasure of everyday driving, the feeling of taking a corner with near 50/50 weight distribution, and with an engine on par with the soon departing E46 M3, the decision was clear: 335i.

Of course you'll have to drive both, and people like different things, but coming from owning the top 2 of the 3 Japanese luxury brands (Sorry to say this, but Infiniti is a far 3rd), it's safe to say I'll be staying with the German cars (specifically BMW for now) until I can be proven otherwise.

E92Vancouver
04-20-2007, 03:21 AM
I think BMW makes great cars and I am not bashing, but recently I have been very impressed with what I've read about the new G37 coupe, which will basically be the fastest thing you can get until the new M3 (but far less costly maintenance than the M3). In addition, I've read that it has the same, if not better handling as the BMW, and if the current G35 pricing is any indication, with leather, nav, and the premium package (including BT), it will cost less than the 335i stock. Initially I was thinking of the 335i, but now I am wondering if the G37 will be better.

If you like the G37 go buy it. Case closed. Do you expect Bimmer owners at a Bimmer forum to help convince you that the G37 is better than a BMW? Sighhhhhh!!!!!

E92Vancouver
04-20-2007, 03:24 AM
Buddy, 35 years have gone by. Things Change. Im guessing you are not the same today as you were 35 years ago. I would not give your advice any credit at all. You have a 35 year old bias. You are probably the worst possible persone to chime in for advice on this thread at this time. No offense.

Now isn't that the Kettle calling the pot black. Dude, you drive the econo version of a G37. I wouldn't expect you to say anything meaningful. You cruise the bimmer forums because you know Bimmers are awesome and you dream of owning one sometime. I am sure you will. Sooner than you think.

E92Vancouver
04-20-2007, 03:26 AM
Who cares about impressing people. If you want to satisfy yourself, drive both and come to a conclusion. If I wanted to impress people, I would spend all of my money on plastic surgery and enzyte. Then again, im not a vain douche bag. :lol
If you want to impress someone, drive a Japanese car and let your desire to own a BMW manifest itself by the fact that you cruise the Bimmer forums. The term is called "German Envy".

Wait a minute. I need an IP check. 'BMW Newbie" might also be "Shifty711". Same person but 2 different aliases to stir the pot???? Nah, that would be real shifty.

E92Vancouver
04-20-2007, 03:34 AM
(This is coming from someone who's recently owned an Acura and Lexus)

I've driven Acura's and Lexus' for a combined 10 years. As mentioned before, they are comfortable cars, have good to great amenities, and are wallet-friendly priced, but the thing both have lacked are the drive. I never considered BMW because I thought I could get the same thing but at a lower price.

When deciding on my current car (335i Coupe), I drove the comparable ones from Japan including the IS350 & GS430 (really a 5-Series competitor),TL Type-S, and the current G35 sedan and the last model G35 coupe. In the end, the Japanese offer the best bang for the buck, but when it comes to the sheer pleasure of everyday driving, the feeling of taking a corner with near 50/50 weight distribution, and with an engine on par with the soon departing E46 M3, the decision was clear: 335i.

Of course you'll have to drive both, and people like different things, but coming from owning the top 2 of the 3 Japanese luxury brands (Sorry to say this, but Infiniti is a far 3rd), it's safe to say I'll be staying with the German cars (specifically BMW for now) until I can be proven otherwise.

I have had many Japanese cars too and they never let me down, but nothing compares to the Bimmer.

This weekend I rented a Toyota Camry to go skiing. My car does not have snow tires and the rental car had all seasons. As it turned out, roads were dry.

The road to Whistler is a twisty, canyon type road. At 60 mph, the Camry felt like it was on the edge of loosing grip. In the corners, I had my foot ready to hit the brake. SUV's and buses were taking the corners faster than me. I felt very unsafe. On this same road, my Bimmer can go 85 mph and feels rock solid safe.

This my friend is the difference between German and Japanese.

GatorM
04-20-2007, 06:52 AM
Want a value? Buy the G. Want the best? Buy the 335.

I've driven both extensively recently during my "how do I replace my M3" decision. The G is a nice car, (though I think they Camry-ized it badly with the new design...not nearly as unique and interesting as the old design), and it is quite quick, but its materials, NVH, rigidity, and overall competence are nowhere near the 335. In the corners it feels very heavy and not as buttoned up as the 335.

shifty711
04-20-2007, 07:46 AM
Now isn't that the Kettle calling the pot black. Dude, you drive the econo version of a G37. I wouldn't expect you to say anything meaningful. You cruise the bimmer forums because you know Bimmers are awesome and you dream of owning one sometime. I am sure you will. Sooner than you think.

Wow, you really should read the entire post before you post something stupid. My previous car was a e46 330ci. I then Traded it in for the Z. I would hardly say that my Z is econo anything. Considering I probably paid more for it than you paid for your 328i.

Your 328i is the econo version of a 335 that you dream about.

Swallow that one.

shifty711
04-20-2007, 07:47 AM
Want a value? Buy the G. Want the best? Buy the 335.

I've driven both extensively recently during my "how do I replace my M3" decision. The G is a nice car, (though I think they Camry-ized it badly with the new design...not nearly as unique and interesting as the old design), and it is quite quick, but its materials, NVH, rigidity, and overall competence are nowhere near the 335. In the corners it feels very heavy and not as buttoned up as the 335.

Once again. You havent driven anything. The G37 isnt out yet. :rolleyes

AEarlM
04-20-2007, 08:11 AM
Z's (300 ZX) haven't been relevant since the early 90's.... but they were SWEET looking back then (I was too young to drive, but that is what my dad drove during his mid-life crisis). Very revolutionary exterior lines for back in the day... nicest looking car on the streets 17 years ago, imo.

GatorM
04-20-2007, 08:19 AM
Once again. You havent driven anything. The G37 isnt out yet. :rolleyes

No kidding, Einstein, hence my use of the letter G only and mention of the style of the redesign. I drove the current GthirtyFIVE and extensively discussed the changes that were going to be made in the new GthirtySEVEN with both the dealer and the people that I used to work with in my many years working for Nissan/Infiniti.

That good enough for you?

Converted
04-20-2007, 08:32 AM
How would you know? Its not even out yet my friend.

I am wondering my self. I have driven the 335ci many times. Here is my review.

Dislikes
-Handling
-Body role
-Brakes
-Gear Box
-Lack of LSD

Likes
-Styling
-Interior
-Acceleration

I would say, wait for the G37 to release, drive them both, come to a conclusion.
Because the cars mechanics haven't changed that much... besides a few styling cue's and this and that... the G35 has ALWAYS felt strange to drive, for me. Just like when a new BMW comes out, although many things change, the driving experience as a whole, stays pretty consistent.... at least in the few models I've driven.

shifty711
04-20-2007, 09:09 AM
No kidding, Einstein, hence my use of the letter G only and mention of the style of the redesign. I drove the current GthirtyFIVE and extensively discussed the changes that were going to be made in the new GthirtySEVEN with both the dealer and the people that I used to work with in my many years working for Nissan/Infiniti.

That good enough for you?

Good Answer.:D

But I think you need to do some reading before you say the mechanics havent changed much besides the styling.

SocratesBMW
04-20-2007, 09:59 AM
How would you know? Its not even out yet my friend.

I am wondering my self. I have driven the 335ci many times. Here is my review.

Dislikes
-Handling
-Body role
-Brakes
-Gear Box
-Lack of LSD

Likes
-Styling
-Interior
-Acceleration

I would say, wait for the G37 to release, drive them both, come to a conclusion.

What's a 335ci? I don't think those even exist, let alone being out.

shifty711
04-20-2007, 10:19 AM
What's a 335ci? I don't think those even exist, let alone being out.

I meant 335I coupe. Sorry

E92Vancouver
04-21-2007, 02:48 PM
Wow, you really should read the entire post before you post something stupid. My previous car was a e46 330ci. I then Traded it in for the Z. I would hardly say that my Z is econo anything. Considering I probably paid more for it than you paid for your 328i.

Your 328i is the econo version of a 335 that you dream about.

Swallow that one.

I did read your whole post. Trading in a BMW for a Nissan is one of the most daft decisions I have ever heard off. The superior engineering and quality of a BMW is obviously wasted on you. Like Darwin's theory of Natural selection, you are driving the car you deserve because you are incapable of appreciating anything better. There is nothing wrong with this and this is the reason GM still sells a lot of Malibus

If you can't tell the difference between a Hugo Boss suit and one from Men's warehouse, then you should buy the cheaper one because in your mind you look good and that is all that matters to you, irrespective of what logic and common sense suggests.

I test drove the 350Z. Not only is it ugly, but that motor is right out of a farm tractor. You probably like all that vibration through the chassis and gear shift when you rev that engine above 3,000 rpm.

Shifty, you are out of your element.

E92!Dreier
04-21-2007, 03:07 PM
I did read your whole post. Trading in a BMW for a Nissan is one of the most daft decisions I have ever heard off. The superior engineering and quality of a BMW is obviously wasted on you. Like Darwin's theory of Natural selection, you are driving the car you deserve because you are incapable of appreciating anything better. There is nothing wrong with this and this is the reason GM still sells a lot of Malibus

If you can't tell the difference between a Hugo Boss suit and one from Men's warehouse, then you should buy the cheaper one because in your mind you look good and that is all that matters to you, irrespective of what logic and common sense suggests.

I test drove the 350Z. Not only is it ugly, but that motor is right out of a farm tractor. You probably like all that vibration through the chassis and gear shift when you rev that engine above 3,000 rpm.

Shifty, you are out of your element.

I second that motion

E92Vancouver
04-21-2007, 04:09 PM
....I would hardly say that my Z is econo anything. Considering I probably paid more for it than you paid for your 328i....


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