So I'm tired after my work out playing DDR at the arcade and I'm driving casually in my M3 and noticed a really nice red Acura NSX that's following me from behind. At the first stoplight(left lane) I drove to 3k through the gears and he immediately went into lane 2 and started to toy with me. I never raced an Acura NSX before but I hear they are fast cars. Since the driver wanted to play I decided to see what my M3 was made of. Low and behold another red light came in front of us and we were side by side. I decided to pretend I wasn't thinking about racing but I was just waiting for the light to turn green... play time.:evil2 I rip through first gear and my rear wiggles from side to side, I get traction and I just launched past him like it was walking. Trust me I could hear that car racing as well so the middle aged man was trying. When I was 3-5 car lengths I let go of the gas and when we came up to the next light I gave him a thumbs up and smiled.:alright

I don't know the mods on his car, but it was probably stock.

My mods for 95 E36 M3: 3.23 diff, 3.5 hfm, jim c chip, itg intake, uuc pulleys, fdk, Borla Exhaust, AA Track Pipe, Corbeau seats(14-17lbs each), and no spare.

What do you guys think, should he have kicked my ass even though he was toying with me or with my mods and slightly lighter vehicle helped me kicked his ass?

makes me wonder if i can take on a stock e46 m3 now.:devillook

I wouldn't think he should've lost, maybe he wasn't on it ALL the way, even with your mods.

I wouldn't think he should've lost, maybe he wasn't on it ALL the way, even with your mods.

Huh? The NSX is a 5.6 sec 0-60/13.9 1/4 mile car. Not that fast in a straight line.

:alright Good job

Huh? The NSX is a 5.6 sec 0-60/13.9 1/4 mile car. Not that fast in a straight line.

Maybe the '91 model. They are decently quick and will get to 170 with a little room..

Nice kill~!

I'm surprised you earned that kill - esp. by so much... awesome though!

I'dve expected the NSX to at least give you a solid run... even more so up at higher speed.

I'm surprised you earned that kill - esp. by so much... awesome though!

I'dve expected the NSX to at least give you a solid run... even more so up at higher speed.

trust me even though it's April Fools day the kill actually happened and I was surprised as well.

who knows... maybe I have a LTW Motor in my car:devillook ... j/k april fools. No but serious It's just a 3.0 motor with bolt-on mods.

Ya the nsx's are good track cars but they lack power for the straights. Easily fixed tho with bolt ons

nice kill, but maybe you had 3-5cl's because you took off and he didnt know you were racing...you said "I decided to pretend I wasn't thinking about racing but I was just waiting for the light to turn green... play time."

btw- you were joking about the DDR right?

NSeXy. Those cars are gorgeous! Don't they have 290 HP? rear-engine rear-drive? I'd drive one for sure. Grats on the kill, good strategy to get a jump lol

nice man

HAHAHAHA!


Anyway, for a glimpse of reality, please view these dragtimes:




Here is one w/exhaust http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-NSX-Timeslip-3143.html

Here is stock
http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-NSX-Timeslip-6671.html

Oh and do look up the weight of the NSX, something that would probably have a great effect on "stoplight" racing.

^ Oh wow, that 2K3 NSX is pretty sexy in yellow.

NSeXy. Those cars are gorgeous! Don't they have 290 HP? rear-engine rear-drive? I'd drive one for sure. Grats on the kill, good strategy to get a jump lol

Mid engine and rear drive.

You know .. earlier NSX were not terribly fast. I think the early 3.0 in automatic put out like 252HP. the manual was somewhere near 270HP. certainly not BIG POWER ... but man what a beautiful car. IIRC the 3.2 put out close to 290HP.

OP ... did you possibly race an automatic NSX???

HAHAHAHA!


Anyway, for a glimpse of reality, please view these dragtimes:




Here is one w/exhaust http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-NSX-Timeslip-3143.html

Here is stock
http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-NSX-Timeslip-6671.html

Oh and do look up the weight of the NSX, something that would probably have a great effect on "stoplight" racing.Noob that's a newer nsx.

You know .. earlier NSX were not terribly fast. I think the early 3.0 in automatic put out like 252HP. the manual was somewhere near 270HP. certainly not BIG POWER ... but man what a beautiful car. IIRC the 3.2 put out close to 290HP.

OP ... did you possibly race an automatic NSX???

290hp out of the 3.2 VTEC rear engine in the later models is correct. I don't know as much about the earlier models.

Lots of folks supercharge them... though, Comptech (their primary supercharger supplier) just recently folded.

yeah NSeXuals are fast, my friend ran a 13.4 in his with several bolt-ons. im helping him put a Supercharger on it this week.... should be fun

Noob that's a newer nsx.

The worst time i could find was for a 1991 NSX that ran a 14.001@ 104.2 STOCK w/ a 2.3 60ft


When was the last time you trapped 104 STOCK?


Oh yeah, that's right, never you "Noob"

Yeah, I forgot to take into account the fact that older ones were a decent bit slower. Did it have exposed headlights? If not, and it was any color but black, did it have a two-tone, black top? The two-tone ones were only around for 2 years in the US I think, I know it was an option till they killed the car in Japan, but not over here. After '97 I think it was, we only got T-top models, which are (obviously) heavier and less rigid, but Japan got that as an option too, and after '02 they went to exposed headlights as opposed to the flip-ups from before.

most of you are underestimating the nsx.
sure its possible that you beat him by that much if it was the 3.0nsx with 254hp and it was stock and auto

if it was like most nsx's, it woud be 270hp manual (which in the nsx makes a huge difference) and also most have exhaust which for that car gains 14whp and a lot of weight reduction. which should have probably beat you by a good couple cars.

the body style didnt change at all from 91-2001 ecept for the wheels in 96 and then again in 2002 I believe

Who knows what kind it was but dont underestimate the nsx.

fyi if it was 97+ it would have 290hp 6speed which is capable of running 12.9 with a good driver.

you think about that, then you think about other cars that run 12.9 and how much hp they have then you really have a found respect for the nsx.

Dont get me started on the handeling!

290hp out of the 3.2 VTEC rear engine in the later models is correct. I don't know as much about the earlier models.

Lots of folks supercharge them... though, Comptech (their primary supercharger supplier) just recently folded.
check this out. gruppe M supercharger for the nsx
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82036&highlight=gruppe+M

at the end of the day he's still driving an NSX

Screw the NSX, its all about Euro's! Good kill bro! Cant wait to kill my first NSX!! :D

The worst time i could find was for a 1991 NSX that ran a 14.001@ 104.2 STOCK w/ a 2.3 60ft


When was the last time you trapped 104 STOCK?


Oh yeah, that's right, never you "Noob"
Did I ever say that?

Noob, learn how to read.. I just said that's the newer ones and not the one the OP is talking about.

Screw the NSX, its all about Euro's! Good kill bro! Cant wait to kill my first NSX!! :D
lol how old are you? 15?:stickoutt

lol how old are you? 15?:stickoutt


Yo bobby what you up to today?

One of my best friends I grew up with has an NSX with the following..
Comptech headers
Comptech exhaust
Dinan ECU, tuned
HKS Intake
and he ran a 13.4 at 104. This is 1992 model with 145k on the clock. They can be quick but we run at the track alot and i'll kill him out of the whole everrry time and he passes up by the time I run through 3rd. The gearing is tremendously wide (85mph in 2nd gear)..If he so much of shifts slow, messes up the launch he'll run right with me or slower 13.8-14.2. This kill is extremely possible.

lol how old are you? 15?:stickoutt


Cmon, for what they cost, you could get a new M5 or the e93 M3 for alot less!!! Maybe you should join the Acura forum ;)

Did I ever say that?

Noob, learn how to read.. I just said that's the newer ones and not the one the OP is talking about.

How do you know? He doesn't say ANYTHING about how old the car looked/was. I think your reading comprehension may need a little work mr Efag

One of my best friends I grew up with has an NSX with the following..
Comptech headers
Comptech exhaust
Dinan ECU, tuned
HKS Intake
and he ran a 13.4 at 104. This is 1992 model with 145k on the clock. They can be quick but we run at the track alot and i'll kill him out of the whole everrry time and he passes up by the time I run through 3rd. The gearing is tremendously wide (85mph in 2nd gear)..If he so much of shifts slow, messes up the launch he'll run right with me or slower 13.8-14.2. This kill is extremely possible.

Um 3-5 carlengths from stoplight to stoplight? i suppose if he wasn't racing it's possible...

nice kill, NSX aren't really great on straight-aways but its the speed on the turn that makes it fast...

good job killing that overpriced POS.



<joke>
if they were as abundant as the M3s, i would have bought a used one. the good once are hard to find and the body is so expensive to fix (aluminum). an exotic with accord reliability:buttrock


if the E36 M3 was the best handling of any car back in the days, does it mean it out handled the NSX?

good job killing that overpriced POS.



<joke>
if they were as abundant as the M3s, i would have bought a used one. the good once are hard to find and the body is so expensive to fix (aluminum). an exotic with accord reliability:buttrock


if the E36 M3 was the best handling of any car back in the days, does it mean it out handled the NSX?

Oh Christ the M3 was not the best handling of any car back in the day period, it was an opinion that took into consideration the fact that it hung so well with more expensive cars that sacrificed a lot more comforts.

The NSX might have been an overpriced POS but it was an overpriced POS that gave Ferrari something to think about.

So I'm tired after my work out playing DDR at the arcade and I'm driving casually in my M3

lol.

lol how old are you? 15?:stickoutt


Cmon, for what they cost, you could get a new M5 or the e93 M3 for alot less!!! Maybe you should join the Acura forum ;)
already am on nsx prime:stickoutt

lol how old are you? 15?:stickoutt


Cmon, for what they cost, you could get a new M5 or the e93 M3 for alot less!!! Maybe you should join the Acura forum ;)
and apperently you know nothing about a good quality car. its fully hand built alluminum body. mid engine handeling monster. the handeling can be compared to almost any new ferrari. Have you ever driven one to talk down on it? and fyi you could get one with under 50k miles for under 30k eaisly.

Yo bobby what you up to today?
just school, work, gf, waisting time on the forums :stickoutt
hey lets set something up for wednesday. call up the usualls and well go grab a bite to eat somewhere and have some fun.

at the end of the day he's still driving an NSX

HAHA well said

Screw the NSX, its all about Euro's! Good kill bro! Cant wait to kill my first NSX!! :D

Spoken like a true adolecent with little to no knowledge of automobiles. Good luck on getting that first NSX kill. :rolleyes

"the handeling can be compared to almost any new ferrari."

Yeah and so can the handeling of a Lotus Elise :D Haha.

Even if a used NSX with high miles is around 30k, id still rather take an E46 M3 any day for the same price. And just like some of the other guys said, at the end of the day its just an ACURA.

Call me bias but a car that's hand built by 2 individuals deserves a little respect...

It may not be the most capable vehicle out there but I definitely would never call it "just an Acura"

290hp out of the 3.2 VTEC rear engine in the later models is correct. I don't know as much about the earlier models.
the earlier models used the c30a, which was the 270hp version, also the predecessor to the c32a you speak of.

290hp out of the 3.2 VTEC rear engine in the later models is correct. I don't know as much about the earlier models.

Lots of folks supercharge them... though, Comptech (their primary supercharger supplier) just recently folded.

That they did, quite a shame too.

Was waiting for comptech to start using the Novi 2000. I have the Novi 1000 on the s2k right now...good power, but there is so many more possibilities. Poor management at Comptech led to their downfall; pity.

"the handeling can be compared to almost any new ferrari."

Yeah and so can the handeling of a Lotus Elise :D Haha.

Even if a used NSX with high miles is around 30k, id still rather take an E46 M3 any day for the same price. And just like some of the other guys said, at the end of the day its just an ACURA.

Rediculous.

Because of the name of its parent company, you associate it with everything else they make?

NSX = Acura
RSX = Acura
RSX = NSX

Well if you put it that way...

E46 M3 CSL = BMW
E30 318i = BMW

...

HOLY CRAP E30 IS an M3! I laugh at all those who waste money on an M3 when they can just get a 318 instead. After all, with either one you're still driving home in a BMW!!

Even if a used NSX with high miles is around 30k, id still rather take an E46 M3 any day for the same price. And just like some of the other guys said, at the end of the day its just an ACURA.

I have both.

I have more than 30,000 miles of seat time in each (this is my 2nd NSX) and both have seen HPDE duty at Road America and Blackhawk.

I sometimes leave work early so I can go drive my NSX. The same cannot be said about my M3.

Both cars have their merits. Either is a fine choice in that price range.

"the handeling can be compared to almost any new ferrari."

Yeah and so can the handeling of a Lotus Elise :D Haha.

Even if a used NSX with high miles is around 30k, id still rather take an E46 M3 any day for the same price. And just like some of the other guys said, at the end of the day its just an ACURA.

Will a lotus elise/exige ever run 12's or hit 170+ mph?


Yeah that's what i would do too: buy a less reliable, worse handling, slower car. BMW FTMFW

I see that everyone sees the light...
my work is done here lol

Ok well first of all we were comparing handling, and i gave an example of a car 1/3 its price tag that could keep up with it on the track stock, thats why i said Lotus Elise,:rolleyes if you want to compare its speed with other cars in the 07 Acura NSX's price range then the Acura NSX cant compare at all, hands down. Yeah it may be a unique car cuz its hand built, has the reliability of an accord, blah blah blah blah, but when push comes to shove, for the price of a new NSX, you could get a much better car horsepower wise. Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06, High end Mercedez and even an M5, M6 or a Porsche. Why on earth would anybody choose an Acura NSX over any of these cars. :lol

Oh and by the way if youre buying a car at that price, and youre thinking gas economy, maybe you shouldnt be driving a car that expensive. :buttrock

Ok well first of all we were comparing handling, and i gave an example of a car 1/3 its price tag that could keep up with it on the track stock, thats why i said Lotus Elise,:rolleyes if you want to compare its speed with other cars in the 07 Acura NSX's price range then the Acura NSX cant compare at all, hands down. Yeah it may be a unique car cuz its hand built, has the reliability of an accord, blah blah blah blah, but when push comes to shove, for the price of a new NSX, you could get a much better car horsepower wise. Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06, High end Mercedez and even an M5, M6 or a Porsche. Why on earth would anybody choose an Acura NSX over any of these cars. :lol
this is why you noob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO_tENfvLjQ
it competes with cars that are almost 4x its price

Ok well first of all we were comparing handling, and i gave an example of a car 1/3 its price tag that could keep up with it on the track stock, thats why i said Lotus Elise,:rolleyes if you want to compare its speed with other cars in the 07 Acura NSX's price range then the Acura NSX cant compare at all, hands down. Yeah it may be a unique car cuz its hand built, has the reliability of an accord, blah blah blah blah, but when push comes to shove, for the price of a new NSX, you could get a much better car horsepower wise. Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06, High end Mercedez and even an M5, M6 or a Porsche. Why on earth would anybody choose an Acura NSX over any of these cars. :lol

There is no 2007 NSX. The last model year of the NSX was 2005.

There are many people who choose an NSX over much more powerful cars for what it offers. It is a precision instrument with purity of design and execution that shows in its natural environment, the race track.

Owning an E36 M3 I thought you would understand the virtue of steering feel and balance and the total experience and value such things over raw horsepower and quarter mile trap speeds.

I love the NSX because it is more fun to drive overall than anything else I have driven, even the cars that were much faster. It can be a daily driver or a garage queen and it never fails to put a smile on my face.

With substantial modification, the NSX is virtually unstoppable. A street legal 650+ rwhp NSX won this year's Sport Compact Car Ultimate Street Car Challenge, to say nothing of the NSX racing history at Le Mans, Speed GT, JGTC, etc.

It sounds like you have never driven one. A pity. It is truly more than the sum of its parts and raw numbers, which BTW are actually quite decent when you look at the correct statistics for a given year.

NSX owners often have many cars. My stable is quite paltry in comparison. Gordon Murray picked it as his daily driver, as have many other motorsport legends.

Drive one sometime, and make sure you warm it up properly and then drive it hard. It lives to bounce off the rev limiter.

Owning an E36 M3 I thought you would understand the virtue of steering feel and balance and the total experience and value such things over raw horsepower and quarter mile trap speeds.

A poser like him will never understand. He's the kind of guy that would appreciate the Visa commercial where the guy pays for an $80.00 haircut, just so he can look like he just got out of bed.

Originally Posted by brahtw8 http://images.bimmerforums.com/vb3images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9137975#post9137975)
Owning an E36 M3 I thought you would understand the virtue of steering feel and balance and the total experience and value such things over raw horsepower and quarter mile trap speeds.
A poser like him will never understand. He's the kind of guy that would appreciate the Visa commercial where the guy pays for an $80.00 haircut, just so he can look like he just got out of bed.



:nono I never said it was a crappy car, i never said it cant perform, never said it couldnt be modded to produce greater performance, all im saying is i just think that there are many other stock cars out there to choose from that are far more impressive for your money than an Acura NSX. But hey its a personal opinion, i just dont like Honda period.....and maybe I will test drive one in the future, but even if it did perform just as good as a ferrari, bmw or porsche, i still wouldnt buy one, that to me is like driving an expensive modded out import, im just import bias, and thats fine, thats why i own a BMW M3 and not a RX-7, Supra, Evo or any of the other import cars that exist, i have the right to not HAVE to like other cars. :booty:)

haha hondas

Nice,bs!!!

haha hondas
nice first post?...:confused

Originally Posted by brahtw8 http://images.bimmerforums.com/vb3images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9137975#post9137975)
Owning an E36 M3 I thought you would understand the virtue of steering feel and balance and the total experience and value such things over raw horsepower and quarter mile trap speeds.
A poser like him will never understand. He's the kind of guy that would appreciate the Visa commercial where the guy pays for an $80.00 haircut, just so he can look like he just got out of bed.



:nono I never said it was a crappy car, i never said it cant perform, never said it couldnt be modded to produce greater performance, all im saying is i just think that there are many other stock cars out there to choose from that are far more impressive for your money than an Acura NSX. But hey its a personal opinion, i just dont like Honda period.....and maybe I will test drive one in the future, but even if it did perform just as good as a ferrari, bmw or porsche, i still wouldnt buy one, that to me is like driving an expensive modded out import, im just import bias, and thats fine, thats why i own a BMW M3 and not a RX-7, Supra, Evo or any of the other import cars that exist, i have the right to not HAVE to like other cars. :booty:)
Maybe you should go to laguna niguel auto off oso on the 5 on cabott and check out the nsxes there and talk to some guys down there and learn a thing or two. maybe then you will understand and have some respect for an amazing car.

This thread is filled with ignorance and typical BMW elitism.

This thread is filled with ignorance and typical BMW elitism.

We can all thank Pedal2TheMetal for that.

So I'm tired after my work out playing DDR at the arcade

You are a fag

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This thread is filled with ignorance and typical BMW elitism.
We can all thank Pedal2TheMetal for that.



Haha, youre very welcome. :redspot

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haha hondas



Haha!!! :buttrock

Here is my opinion on all KILL STORIES--

In a BMW forum, most posts talked about their ownage vs other cars even if it is plain BS

In a Honda, Mitsubishi, Toyota, etc forum, they say the opposite vs. BMW's

:alright :eyecrazy :redspot

everyone knows that bmw>all and european>all because anything even remotely associated with japanese cars are cheap civics and thus prone to "rice"

:rolleyes

Huh? The NSX is a 5.6 sec 0-60/13.9 1/4 mile car. Not that fast in a straight line.

Where do you get your stats from?

The 2001 NSX did 4.5sec in 0-60mph, and 12.9 sec in 1/4 mile. (Tested by CAR & DRIVER)
Kunimitsu Takahashi (also known as Gan-San from Best Motoring) did 12.7 sec with an NSX Type-S Zero.

The 3.2L NSX is much faster than what people think.

If your talking old school 3.0L NSX with 270hp against a 240hp car with mods then what you saw was the old guy NOT launch his car playing catchup

I dont think a properly launched NSX will get out 0-60'd by a lightly modded E36 M3 especially a 3.2L 6 speed NSX

Where do you get your stats from?

The 2001 NSX did 4.5sec in 0-60mph, and 12.9 sec in 1/4 mile. (Tested by CAR & DRIVER)
Kunimitsu Takahashi (also known as Gan-San from Best Motoring) did 12.7 sec with an NSX Type-S Zero.

hmm 12.9 is correct if it was the Zandari edition which is the type R version in the states.
and yes Ive seen that video. very impressive to see a car with under 300ponies do that kind of time!

thats why my next car is an nsx :alright

I think my time would better be spent visiting the Newport Auto House in Newport Beach and test driving one of their Murcielagos. :D
I dont think they let 15 year old kids test drive lambos :D

hmm 12.9 is correct if it was the Zandari edition which is the type R version in the states.
and yes Ive seen that video. very impressive to see a car with under 300ponies do that kind of time!

thats why my next car is an nsx :alright

Actually, the Zanardi is a US version of the JDM-only NSX Type-S Zero. The JDM Type R is a step beyond the Type S.

There were a couple tests of an NA2 Coupe with a 12.9 quarter, but most magazine tests were in the low 13s.

NSX was always knocked for costing so much and having so little power, but it is amazingly fast :)

Where do you get your stats from?

The 2001 NSX did 4.5sec in 0-60mph, and 12.9 sec in 1/4 mile. (Tested by CAR & DRIVER)
Kunimitsu Takahashi (also known as Gan-San from Best Motoring) did 12.7 sec with an NSX Type-S Zero.

The 3.2L NSX is much faster than what people think.

If your talking old school 3.0L NSX with 270hp against a 240hp car with mods then what you saw was the old guy NOT launch his car playing catchup

I dont think a properly launched NSX will get out 0-60'd by a lightly modded E36 M3 especially a 3.2L 6 speed NSX

It was probably the older one.

It was probably the older one.
still would rape it

still would rape it

What would rape what? The old NSX would rape the M3? Doubtful.

What would rape what? The old NSX would rape the M3? Doubtful.
oh believe me, it will. Ive driven 3 or 4 all stock cept one. and I have driven 2 of my buddies e36m3's and the nsx would definately beat them. Have you ever driven one? im guessing not...

Originally Posted by brahtw8 http://images.bimmerforums.com/vb3images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9137975#post9137975)
Owning an E36 M3 I thought you would understand the virtue of steering feel and balance and the total experience and value such things over raw horsepower and quarter mile trap speeds.
A poser like him will never understand. He's the kind of guy that would appreciate the Visa commercial where the guy pays for an $80.00 haircut, just so he can look like he just got out of bed.



:nono I never said it was a crappy car, i never said it cant perform, never said it couldnt be modded to produce greater performance, all im saying is i just think that there are many other stock cars out there to choose from that are far more impressive for your money than an Acura NSX. But hey its a personal opinion, i just dont like Honda period.....and maybe I will test drive one in the future, but even if it did perform just as good as a ferrari, bmw or porsche, i still wouldnt buy one, that to me is like driving an expensive modded out import, im just import bias, and thats fine, thats why i own a BMW M3 and not a RX-7, Supra, Evo or any of the other import cars that exist, i have the right to not HAVE to like other cars. :booty:)



That's just stupid. It can be just as good or better than any other car but you wouldn't drive it because of the marque?



That's so incredibly ignorant & superficial that I cannot begin to describe it.




Grow up.

Oh and by the way if youre buying a car at that price, and youre thinking gas economy, maybe you shouldnt be driving a car that expensive.

expensive? You do realize that in Europe theres a plethora of bmw and benz taxi cabs. Also a lot of the flagship luxo cruisers are going alternative fuel for better gas economy for a reason. Not to mention a lot of BMW owners are wanting their euro diesel counterparts imported to save on gas. There's a difference between being smart and staying rich and being dumb and becoming poor. One thing is often misconstrued about the wealthy as that they don't like to save money. A lot of wealthy people are super frugile with their money. Lets take my grandpa for instance. He's an ex Harvard law / Pepperdine businessman, multi millionaire he owns about 9 vehicles last time i talked to him and 3 yachts. Ranging from your xterra to your 360 modenna spyder and every penny he can save he definately does. He will even go out of his way to go to the border of mexico to hire workers to wash his yachts yet he donated a $10 million fueling dock to Pepperdine college. There was an article about michael jordan how he would pick up every penny that he saw.

I guess you aren't a true car enthusiast but more of a brand snob, unlike you i will give credit where credit is due. In the end you're right we're all entitled to our own opinions but please get off your high horse taxi cab and try and be a little bit more open minded.

What would rape what? The old NSX would rape the M3? Doubtful.

The 'old' NSX is not nearly as slow as people think. Gearing is the primary difference between the 3.0/5 speed (NA1) and the 3.2/6-speed (NA2).

The NA1 drops out of the powerband on the 1-2 shift, so it loses about a half second in the 0-60 run. From 60-170 MPH the NA1 is very close to the NA2. The 6-speed gives you the low speed of the JDM short gears and the high-speed legs of the original five speed.

A bone stock 1991 NSX will run 0-60 in 5.0 and the quarter in 13.5 at 105 MPH in ideal conditions with a good driver and launch.

The abilty to make torque at high RPM allows you to take advantage of tall gearing and the NSX 5 speed is very tall. Max speed in each gear? Try 45 MPH in 1st, 81 MPH in 2nd, 114 MPH in 3rd, 145 MPH in 4th and 183 MPH in 5th (drag limited to 168 MPH if stock).

Originally Posted by ohnoes http://images.bimmerforums.com/vb3images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9143293#post9143293)
This thread is filled with ignorance and typical BMW elitism.
We can all thank Pedal2TheMetal for that.



Haha, youre very welcome. :redspot

I think my time would better be spent visiting the Newport Auto House in Newport Beach and test driving one of their Murcielagos. :D

And they would let YOU drive one??? :lol

And it remains one of my goals to buy an NSX and throw on an sc.

Conservative yet highly effective mods, 360whp, 3000lbs, pure bred sports car... should be automotive bliss.

And it remains one of my goals to buy an NSX and throw on an sc.

Conservative yet highly effective mods, 360whp, 3000lbs, pure bred sports car... should be automotive bliss.

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Originally Posted by Pedal2TheMetal http://images.bimmerforums.com/vb3images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9137399#post9137399)
Oh and by the way if youre buying a car at that price, and youre thinking gas economy, maybe you shouldnt be driving a car that expensive.

expensive? You do realize that in Europe theres a plethora of bmw and benz taxi cabs. Also a lot of the flagship luxo cruisers are going alternative fuel for better gas economy for a reason. Not to mention a lot of BMW owners are wanting their euro diesel counterparts imported to save on gas. There's a difference between being smart and staying rich and being dumb and becoming poor. One thing is often misconstrued about the wealthy as that they don't like to save money. A lot of wealthy people are super frugile with their money. Lets take my grandpa for instance. He's an ex Harvard law / Pepperdine businessman, multi millionaire he owns about 9 vehicles last time i talked to him and 3 yachts. Ranging from your xterra to your 360 modenna spyder and every penny he can save he definately does. He will even go out of his way to go to the border of mexico to hire workers to wash his yachts yet he donated a $10 million fueling dock to Pepperdine college. There was an article about michael jordan how he would pick up every penny that he saw.

I guess you aren't a true car enthusiast but more of a brand snob, unlike you i will give credit where credit is due. In the end you're right we're all entitled to our own opinions but please get off your high horse taxi cab and try and be a little bit more open minded.


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"And they would let YOU drive one??? :lol"


Soon, very soon my friend, im thinking about renting one this year for my birthday, 1800 dollars for 12 hours worth, because after all, I do gotta test drive my future car before i buy it right? I shall keep you posted :D

"A lot of wealthy people are super frugile with their money. Lets take my grandpa for instance. He's an ex Harvard law / Pepperdine businessman, multi millionaire he owns about 9 vehicles last time i talked to him and 3 yachts."


LMFAO :lol Oh ok guy?! Because you know, 9 vehicles and 3 yachts is being sooooo "frugile" with your money. HAHA. I have an uncle of mine that grew up in a third world country, has no business degree, and is also a multi millionaire, he is in the import and export business. *legal only* An Ivy League school or even a college degree doesnt mean anything......anyways thats kinda getting off topic, we'll leave that for another post. :D

This whole thread seems kinda pointless, anyone arguing that the nsx isn't a beautifuly crafted car for it's purpose isn't worth arguing with about cars.


I'd be more worried about the original poster saying his work out was ddr. Just my opinion though.......

The 'old' NSX is not nearly as slow as people think. Gearing is the primary difference between the 3.0/5 speed (NA1) and the 3.2/6-speed (NA2).

The NA1 drops out of the powerband on the 1-2 shift, so it loses about a half second in the 0-60 run. From 60-170 MPH the NA1 is very close to the NA2. The 6-speed gives you the low speed of the JDM short gears and the high-speed legs of the original five speed.

A bone stock 1991 NSX will run 0-60 in 5.0 and the quarter in 13.5 at 105 MPH in ideal conditions with a good driver and launch.

The abilty to make torque at high RPM allows you to take advantage of tall gearing and the NSX 5 speed is very tall. Max speed in each gear? Try 45 MPH in 1st, 81 MPH in 2nd, 114 MPH in 3rd, 145 MPH in 4th and 183 MPH in 5th (drag limited to 168 MPH if stock).

very well said

Speaking of NSXs, I was two cars behind a red one tonight. Couldn't tell which one it was, but it was hot. I saw it really get on it after stopping for a car in front of it turning left into a driveway. It was LOUD but pure sekz. And the Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee (couldn't tell which, it was nighttime) in front of me gunned it too, and surprisingly he pulled away from me very quickly. I mean, it's not like I was trying to keep up (at least at first), but I was surprised at how quick that Cherokee was in trying to keep up with the NSX, but he was nowhere near it. :rofl at that dumb kid in the Jeep.

In conclusion: I want an NSX!

Ok well first of all we were comparing handling, and i gave an example of a car 1/3 its price tag that could keep up with it on the track stock, thats why i said Lotus Elise,:rolleyes if you want to compare its speed with other cars in the 07 Acura NSX's price range then the Acura NSX cant compare at all, hands down. Yeah it may be a unique car cuz its hand built, has the reliability of an accord, blah blah blah blah, but when push comes to shove, for the price of a new NSX, you could get a much better car horsepower wise. Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06, High end Mercedez and even an M5, M6 or a Porsche. Why on earth would anybody choose an Acura NSX over any of these cars. :lol

Why? Because it's arguably faster [on a track], then probably all those cars mentioned with the exception of the Z06 and the Porsche.

Why on earth would anybody choose an Acura NSX over any of these cars

I'm going to take a wild ass guess here and say you've never driven an NSX...

Just to clarify, yes DDR is my "cardio" workout. I usually play custom songs on the dance machine and the possibilities are endless with over 1600 files on my laptop(and growing).

In other news I had another race(actually I'm not sure) E36 M3 vs Blue S4(B5)
It looked like a US marine and 2 of his buddies in the car but he was toying with me as well. Judging from the way he pulled on some of our runs I'm pretty sure he is modded and the extra passengers hindered his performance. I was going around 60mph in 5th, downshifted to 3rd and gunned it. Overall I pulled on him in the early part, but I think after 100mph his turbo would pull, why you say? There was this one part where we are both behind cars and when he found a free spot he gunned it ahead, when I found a free spot I gunned it as well and he was pretty far. So i'm pretty sure anywhere before 100 I would pull on him and after that he might beat me.

It really wasn't a race, more like toying back and forth, but if it was I'm pretty sure I would have won.

Awesome kill!!! It's sounds about right to me. You do have a couple mods that can make the difference especially if it was an early model NSX.

There should be a screening process to join this forum. Lately it seems like we've had an abundance of immature elitist pricks join and talk absurd amounts of smack instead of listening and contributing to the forum.

There should be a screening process to join this forum. Lately it seems like we've had an abundance of immature elitist pricks join and talk absurd amounts of smack instead of listening and contributing to the forum.
+1

Just to clarify, yes DDR is my "cardio" workout. I usually play custom songs on the dance machine and the possibilities are endless with over 1600 files on my laptop(and growing).




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I'm not a big fan of running even though I can run. When I was in Iraq last year I ran a 26.2 Mile Marine Corps Marathon. April 22 I have a 13.1 Mile La Jolla Half Marathon, and this summer I will do the 26.2 Mile Rock & Roll Marathon. DDR is a fun way for me to exercise and not feel tired or bored. I've done other numerous runs as well and it's surprising because I never used to be the fit active type of guy. I'm so happy that I've dropped over 80lbs since 2005:alright

The NSX is almost as timeless as a Rolex. End of story.

Leave the guy alone. Let him do his DDR thing in peace. :redspot

+1

And you would know, with your Feb 2007 join date. :rolleyes

Leave the guy alone. Let him do his DDR thing in peace. :redspot



And you would know, with your Feb 2007 join date. :rolleyes
I may have a recent join date, but thats only because Ive just recently purchased my Mcoupe. Ive been a lurker on bimmerforums for 4 or 5 months prior to that and I have been a member on NSX prime for almost a year... Im no stranger to how stupid people act on the forums...

i think everyone needs to "chillax", let's not start anything. I like my BMW M3 but to be honest I like any car that looks good. That NSX looked much better than my ride, so did the Audi S4, heck I'm even jealous of the New Civic Si Sedan. Cars are cars, it doesn't matter what brand, there will always be a car that's going to be faster, look better, handle like on rails. Upgrading to new cars is the way of life. I'm already looking to upgrade to something better.

NSX will always be one of my favorite cars. I have driven a few on Gran Turismo and I must say they are truely awesome. Anyway...

Yeah I think a lot of people are brand whores on here. You can't be a true car enthusiast unless you respect all cars Honda, Toyota, Chevy, Ford, BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault...

Exactly. The overall design of the car is what makes it special...not the brand

at the end of the day he's still driving an NSX

Is that a good thing?

Exactly. The overall design of the car is what makes it special...not the brand

I agree. The NSX is a superb car and so is the M3. This guy did beat an NSX in his M3 in a straight line and as far as handling goes: I seem to remember that the M3 was hailed as, "The best handling car for any money." On the other hand, the NSX is mid-engine and has legendary handling as well. The newest NSX would hand an M3 it's tail in straights or curves. But year for year (as a pair of mid-90's sports cars), they were pretty comparable cars. On a further note, it seems pointless polemics to argue which is better. Better is too vague a term. People who argue about vagueries like "better" just like to hear themselves talk.

Is that a good thing?
OFCOURSE ITS A GOOD THING!