So this kid from my old high school just picked up a E 190 turbo and keeps tailgating me and such every where he sees me.

Two weeks ago, i over heard a coversation with him and his girlfriend about how he "can" smoke my m3 ( he didn't know it was mine ) so I was like hmm...

Yesterday, he came up on my ass again, and we finally lined up on a red light.

Me, not wanting to race, didn't gun it at the start, and I heard his tires squeek, so I knew he wanted to go, so I gunned it.

Beat him off the line, and continued to pull on him.

rumors say that his car is quick... and that he's a good driver.

my car has exhaust, chip, intake as performance mods.

my question to you all, is this unusual? are E 190 turbo > E36 M3 with decent mods?

I belive the 190E is a mid 17sec car in the 1/4... Good ego kill though!

my question to you all, is this unusual? are E 190 turbo > E36 M3 with decent mods?

Unless he is @30PSI

how much did you pull on him by?

I belive the 190E is a mid 17sec car in the 1/4... Good ego kill though!

:lol

how much did you pull on him by?

too much... and i waved "nice race" to him, he just mugged me and sped off :mad

Never heard of e190 turbo... After market bolt on? I tink you can get a supercharger for that thing, but now turbo.

e class is like the 5 series right, and 190 means 1.9L right? that means slow as hell lol

e class is like the 5 series right, and 190 means 1.9L right? that means slow as hell lol

It's a model name. They came with 2.3, 2.6L engines. There also was a 16valve as well as Cosworth engines. They were quite a match to e30 m3s in early 90s DTM series.

There were never much of a match for the e30m3, they tried though.

There were never much of a match for the e30m3, they tried though.

Ummm, no. Watch some races from 89-91. They were quite good until Alfas kicked in later on.

There were never much of a match for the e30m3, they tried though.
Guess you never watched DTM racing, the 190 evo ruled.

In terms of the 190e you raced being a turbo, how do you know it was a turbo? They never came from the factory with a turbo. Mosselman produced a turbo kit which was weak and overpriced if you ask me. Then there are the people that put custom turbo's on their cars and they are pretty quick. I'm pretty sure the 190 didnt have a turbo.

My brother has the 190e 2.3 16v (the cosworth) and its definitely not fast and nothing to brag about if you beat it in a straight line (its 20 years old, what do you expect?). Its friggin sick in the twisties though (his is modded). He wants to do a custom turbo on it too :buttrock

Guess you never watched DTM racing, the 190 evo ruled.

In terms of the 190e you raced being a turbo, how do you know it was a turbo? They never came from the factory with a turbo. Mosselman produced a turbo kit which was weak and overpriced if you ask me. Then there are the people that put custom turbo's on their cars and they are pretty quick. I'm pretty sure the 190 didnt have a turbo.

My brother has the 190e 2.3 16v (the cosworth) and its definitely not fast and nothing to brag about if you beat it in a straight line (its 20 years old, what do you expect?). Its friggin sick in the twisties though (his is modded). He wants to do a custom turbo on it too :buttrock

You are totally correct. There was no turbo from factory. It depends on the turbo if he should have been pulled on. I have seen custom 190E that would rape a m3. But other that would do well to rape a 318. It all depends on the turbo setup. It is very hard to tell since it wasn't factory.

he told his friends he had a turbo, and his friends told me that it was turbo, i have not seen, or witnessed the turbo.

but that's what his friends were saying hah

he told his friends he had a turbo, and his friends told me that it was turbo, i have not seen, or witnessed the turbo.

but that's what his friends were saying hah

ok ... so next time you see him ... run him. that's how your gonna find out. my guess is that unless he has a seriously sick turbo setup ... you're gonna take him.

one way to find out tho .. just do it.

turbo diesel???

turbo diesel???

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:( didnt they make a turbo disel 190e or am i smoking teh crack?

yup.. a 120 HP 2.5 TD, 5 cylinder.....120 (downhill) top speed. I drove one in Copenhagen as a taxi, while at the university. Was fun at the time.
As far as a gas turbo ? most 190E's sold in the US were automatics. and while the 2.3-16 and towards the end the 2.5-16's were actually fast n their own right, not exactly a match for the M3 of the time, unless you are talking the EVO models made for homologizing (sp?) it for the DTM (ellen Lohr drive those sick fast)which as far as I know ere never sold in the US
and IF your "friend" did a turbo setup on an 190E. isnt that rather silly, the cost would be rather prohibitive, just to get something that can keep up with an M3....actually an M3 would be cheaper. or a ricer, mustang you name it. His "turbo" probably is a 3.99 badge from Kragen.

Some of the 190's were available in stick. My brothers 2.3 16v is a stick. The Evo's came with the 2.5 16v and the first gen had the 2.3 16v

The turbo diesel is a joke.

haha i knew there was a disiel!!!!!

oh there is worse than that. I actually owned a 1985 2.2D 190 which was a 75 hp DOG, with an automatic.......but it got almost 40 MPG's and as I started commuting 80 miles on way, my Z3 was suffering wear and tear, so I bought this PIG but, have no illusion, if he squeeled his tires, this was not it, 0-60 was a MAYBE, and if pissible that day, measured with a tear off calendar.

and yes the 2.3-16 was sold here with a getrag 5 speed, with an odd shift pattern. 1st lower left, then 2nd over third and 4th over 5th...reasoning being that while racing the most uses gears were 2-3, and using those right above each other made for faster shifts with less margin of error.
in My m5 the 3rd gear is AMAZING, slow corner in third, and it pulls HARD all the way to 120 mph..with three more gears to go.

e class is like the 5 series right, and 190 means 1.9L right? that means slow as hell lol

um, nein.

and yes the 2.3-16 was sold here with a getrag 5 speed, with an odd shift pattern. 1st lower left, then 2nd over third and 4th over 5th...reasoning being that while racing the most uses gears were 2-3, and using those right above each other made for faster shifts with less margin of error.
Yup, thats exactly what my brother has.

ahem, conventional Mb wisdom would dictate that, but the 201 did not follow that..BUT in europe it was available as that, I think, or maybe it was a 1.8 what do i know. Used to be able to recite them all, now 15 years later, in the US.....my access, and time to access is limited to euro information. My old man just registered his 1990 Z1 in denmark......I am not impressed 168 hp slug.

I actually almost bought a 2.3-16 years ago, but my wife said no......now I make a little more money, and she is not in a position to say no (or I will ask her how many horses SHE has) her kind are more expensive than MY kind to feed. But BMW's rule uber MBZ...well the AMG63 is a tough nut to crack

wheres that audi/e30m3/2.6 benz. comparo vid?

wheres that audi/e30m3/2.6 benz. comparo vid?
2.6 benz is slow.

It was slower than the evo 3 m3!

It was slower than the evo 3 m3!
Didnt i just say it was slow? The 2.6 is a 6 cylinder. Evo 190 vs. Evo M3 = battle of the century!

Been trying to find these videos of some 190E turbo diesels. I would take one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUcDMJc4NMo&mode=related&search=

omg

my first car was a white 85 190 2.3 and i just about pulled away from my friends 91 4.3 blazer..........yes these are kill stories but not the really obvious ones!

Didnt i just say it was slow? The 2.6 is a 6 cylinder. Evo 190 vs. Evo M3 = battle of the century!
Sorry, I thought your were being sarcastic:D

190E owner here!

Hmm.. it really depends. because these cars are flexible. The cars stock, are damn slow, but great for DD. The 16V has some "pep." but nothing compared to the E36 M3s. I can't wait to do a manual swap on mine because the car will be 10x more fun. They're so tossable. Plus, most owners consider doing a C43 swap or C36. and it appears to be a simple process, I might consider this if I can find a decent motor.

Members on "The Rev" (190E forum) can get a little crazy. I've seen a fully built 16v, turboed, and his goal was to kill crotch rockets. It's a monster, I'll try and find the thread.

Based on your description, it sounds like he might have just turboed a plain motor, which won't do much vs. your M.

If you describe the car, I might know who it is, if he's on the Rev. Nice kill.

Saying a 190 is fast is like saying an e30 318 is fast...

Saying a 190 is fast is like saying an e30 318 is fast...

E30 with a built motor and forced induction will be fast. :rolleyes

There were never much of a match for the e30m3, they tried though.

Ummm, no. Watch some races from 89-91. They were quite good until Alfas kicked in later on.
excuse me ahem cough cough dont froget audi, that 1st time they entered they won 3 in a row