View Full Version : Z06 vs Cobra Stang


alanhenson
03-28-2007, 12:28 PM
Hadn't posted in here in a while so I thought why not. I saw some lights weaving thru traffic trying to get close to me last night. It was a couple year old Cobra Mustang. He wanted to race so I said what the heck. The problem is we were on a narrow 2 lane bridge doing 70mph which is 2cnd gear for me. I new if I unleashed the beast in 2cnd my rear end would start wagging and tires would be smoking so I put it into 3rd instead. Definate disadvantage but I wasn't too worried. AT least I wouldn't in up in the lake. I let him go first and get a running start from behind me. He was a probably at 80 when I hit it at 70. It only took me until 85 to blow past him like he was stnading still. I let it run up to 120(top of third) before I let him do the obligatory ricer fly by. The Z06 just never ceases to astound me at how fast it is.

I tried to get a 360 and a Gallardo to take the bait the other night but I think they new better.

nuppal
03-28-2007, 12:37 PM
Anything done to your Z06?

alanhenson
03-28-2007, 12:39 PM
It has headers, tune, filter. It dynoed at 22hp more than stock.

flyeryan
03-28-2007, 12:41 PM
while I think the C6's aren't quite as sexified as the C5's, the Z06 is an absolutely incredible vehicle... especially for the price.

slickav
03-28-2007, 12:42 PM
You sound like a kid with his favorite toy, awesome!

Must be cool to be able to pick on Gallardos and 360's :(

alanhenson
03-28-2007, 01:06 PM
You sound like a kid with his favorite toy, awesome!

Must be cool to be able to pick on Gallardos and 360's :(

It is fun. It almost gets boring knowing you are the fastest thing on the road 99.9% of the time. There's a guy that lives near me with a highly modified 996TT and can run just a couple car lengths behind me usually but never faster. My buddies Porsche GT2 is the same way. It hangs for a little and then starts fading quickly.

Flexall
03-28-2007, 01:10 PM
The Z06 just never ceases to astound me at how fast it is.

I tried to get a 360 and a Gallardo to take the bait the other night but I think they new better.

It never ceases to amaze you? You have pretty much the fastest car on the road with that kind of hp. Who do you really think is going to beat you? You're going to completely walk everything unless its highly modified. For racing others that can be boring. But for shutting people down its great. I call shutting'em down for example: when I see xenons roll up on me fast from behind on the highway. I'll slowly speed up to match them, they'll keep trying to pass me but they can't. I love doing that. The other example is when you go pass someone and you're already in front of them when you see their car lunge forward as to shut you out. I love it. Enjoy! Your car is beautiful.

Flexall

GMM
03-28-2007, 01:11 PM
Sweet car. I know a few cars in naples that you could race :)

99E36M
03-28-2007, 01:16 PM
while I think the C6's aren't quite as sexified as the C5's

You really think this way? Interesting.
I find the C6 the only "sexy" "exotic" looking Corvette ever.

EaglEye
03-28-2007, 01:39 PM
Good kill!
I love reading the OP's exploits in the OT forum.

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I second the "sexy C5" opinion.
I think the base C6 looks extremely awkward from the front and especially back. It looks to me like a C5 coupe mated with a pre-'92 C4 and a D+ industrial design undergrad delivered the baby while gazing at an F360 out the window. The Z06 has just enough special touches to set it off compared to the base C6, but I for one still prefer the C5's overall styling. I'm not a huge fan of the C5 FRC/Z06 roofline(looks just like the 'vert with the top up), but the rest of the car makes up for it. I'm still in love with flowing, graceful, organic styling and dislike the current industrial trends---"flame surfacing," Bangle, et al. makes me slightly nauseous.

I was debating between a base C6 or C5 Z06 and finally resolved to get the C6 despite my slight issues with the styling, but that never wound up materializing anyway :rolleyes

Maybe a C6Z sometime in the next decade...

MechEngr
03-28-2007, 01:41 PM
the C5 looks good
the C6 looks DAMN good

btw, i wonder how your car would do against Rez90's evo. that would be a race to see.

savage217
03-28-2007, 01:43 PM
c6 z06= best bang for your buck car.:buttrock

m3chaser
03-28-2007, 01:55 PM
you should race paradigmguy. His car is rotten fast. Anywho, I want to make sweet love to your car so if you could bring it by the house that would be greaaaat.....mmmmkay?

Sa///M3
03-28-2007, 02:07 PM
;) I call shutting'em down for example: when I see xenons roll up on me fast from behind on the highway. I'll slowly speed up to match them, they'll keep trying to pass me but they can't. I love doing that.

Flexall
I hate it when people do that. I just back off and let them do their thing.. No point in being immature and play the game with them...

Alan, nice kill man.. Must be nice to beat 50% of the cars on the road in 6th gear.

Flexall
03-28-2007, 02:39 PM
I hate it when people do that. I just back off and let them do their thing.. No point in being immature and play the game with them...

Alan, nice kill man.. Must be nice to beat 50% of the cars on the road in 6th gear.

Hey, we all enjoy our cars in different ways. I don't crap on peoples threads for drag racing on public roads. As much as I try to avoid it, I occassionally get caught up in the moment. Like the other day when SRT8 Jeep tried to show me how fast he was.....Not! When someone tries to get over in front of me I typically let them in. Sometimes when I'm getting over I have to just "take it". It's not a crisis buddy. Relax. Show me your car so that if we cross each other on the highway I'll just let you pass so you don't have a heart attack. I usually try to play it safe. Unless the other car has 400+ rwhp it's usually a quick and painless process that doesn't require high speeds for victory. And when the occassional car suprises me, I smile. He's done his homework and I respect that. I love fast cars, even if I lose.

Flexall

SSJShadow
03-28-2007, 02:45 PM
Thus why Corvette's are my fav car of all time... my dream car a 1969 Corvette with the L88 *drool*

Shodanusmc
03-28-2007, 03:20 PM
Hey, we all enjoy our cars in different ways. I don't crap on peoples threads for drag racing on public roads. As much as I try to avoid it, I occassionally get caught up in the moment. Like the other day when SRT8 Jeep tried to show me how fast he was.....Not! When someone tries to get over in front of me I typically let them in. Sometimes when I'm getting over I have to just "take it". It's not a crisis buddy. Relax. Show me your car so that if we cross each other on the highway I'll just let you pass so you don't have a heart attack. I usually try to play it safe. Unless the other car has 400+ rwhp it's usually a quick and painless process that doesn't require high speeds for victory. And when the occassional car suprises me, I smile. He's done his homework and I respect that. I love fast cars, even if I lose.

Flexall

For 4800 pounds, the Jeep SRT's are damn fast, especially from a dig. It will blow away the X5 4.8, ML55, give the ML63 and the Porsche Cheyene TT a run, or even beat them. Not bad for a 40K price tag.

alanhenson
03-28-2007, 03:21 PM
Thanks for all the comments guys.

Flexall
03-28-2007, 03:31 PM
For 4800 pounds, the Jeep SRT's are damn fast, especially from a dig. It will blow away the X5 4.8, ML55, give the ML63 and the Porsche Cheyene TT a run, or even beat them. Not bad for a 40K price tag.

You're absolutely right! I'm an avid car enthusiast and as such I am very familiar with its power and torque not only to the crank, but also to the wheels:
Horsepower: 378.70 HP

Torque: 375.90 ft-lbs

. Those are big numbers even for cars putting that to the crank, but this is to the wheels. If I were stock it would eat me for lunch. But that isn't the case. At any rate, I will never be able to touch the New Z06.

Flexall.

slickav
03-28-2007, 03:38 PM
Wait, there are mods out there for a S-Type R?

AzzMan
03-28-2007, 03:40 PM
Alan, I know there are some incredibly wealthy people in Dallas, so have you ever gotten to run with any REAL big dogs before? I know that car basically craps on Gallardos, 360s, 430s, pretty much everything like that- but have you run an LP640, 599, 997 Turbo (obviously tuned, or some tuner version), anything REALLY worth mentioning?

TheMossMan
03-28-2007, 03:42 PM
It never ceases to amaze you? You have pretty much the fastest car on the road with that kind of hp. Who do you really think is going to beat you? You're going to completely walk everything unless its highly modified. For racing others that can be boring. But for shutting people down its great. I call shutting'em down for example: when I see xenons roll up on me fast from behind on the highway. I'll slowly speed up to match them, they'll keep trying to pass me but they can't. I love doing that. The other example is when you go pass someone and you're already in front of them when you see their car lunge forward as to shut you out. I love it. Enjoy! Your car is beautiful.

Flexall

So you're the jerk that's driving slow and then doesn't let someone pass?

Nice.

jrsawyer
03-28-2007, 03:43 PM
badass car bro

dmb882
03-28-2007, 03:47 PM
nice kill! I pulled 3-4 cars by the top of third running 17psi on a c5 zo6 from a stop light the other day. The C6 is what 100 more hp? May need to turn up the boost a tad hehe:)

TheMossMan
03-28-2007, 03:47 PM
Wait, there are mods out there for a S-Type R?


Maintainence/Repairs and, judging from his attitude/driving habits, picking his teeth up off the floor will keep him plenty busy without much time left for modding.

:D

...and nice kill Alan...your posts over the last 6 months have put the Z06 on my short list....

and I'm surprised someone thinks the C5 is a better looker than the C6!!! I thought my father was the only one! He bought a used C5 because he doesn't believe corvettes should not have 'pop up' lights! The C6 is, IMO, one of the best looking vettes ever....I was never huge fan or had a desire for the C5. Now a C2 split window or a 67 427....I always lusted after those....

Flexall
03-28-2007, 03:49 PM
Wait, there are mods out there for a S-Type R?

Yes there are. ECU reprogramming adds 40hp and 80lbs torque. That's not even including the exhaust upgrade. Have the heads ported with a nice 3 angle valve job and you really have people scratching their heads on the streets about what just happened to them. And the best part is no one ever expects it. After all, who mods jaguars? I'd say about 1% if that.

Flexall

Flexall
03-28-2007, 03:52 PM
So you're the jerk that's driving slow and then doesn't let someone pass?

Nice.

No, I'm not in the left lane. I get over. If you are fast you'll be infront of me. If not, then you won't. I don't do this all the time guys. Only if something looks fun and like he wants to play. So don't take it out of context. Please.

Flexall.

alanhenson
03-28-2007, 11:48 PM
Alan, I know there are some incredibly wealthy people in Dallas, so have you ever gotten to run with any REAL big dogs before? I know that car basically craps on Gallardos, 360s, 430s, pretty much everything like that- but have you run an LP640, 599, 997 Turbo (obviously tuned, or some tuner version), anything REALLY worth mentioning?

I posted a thread a while back about a night out when I ran into a group of guys. 1 Murcielago, 1 Ford Gt and 1 Gallardo. The only car that could stay close was the Ford GT and it won twice and I won twice. I won after I cooled my engine down a little. The Z loses hp when it gets over 150 degrees on the oil. My buddy has a GT2 that can't even stay close. And he won't even take his Viper out anymore. I just met a guy at the gym that has a 600rwhp Ford GT that I want to run. I'm sure he'll win but it will be fun.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=572190

Mervon
03-29-2007, 01:17 AM
you should race paradigmguy. His car is rotten fast. Anywho, I want to make sweet love to your car so if you could bring it by the house that would be greaaaat.....mmmmkay?



I would love to see a vid of that because ive been in Paras car and wholyyyyy S(#* its fast

BavariaMotorist
03-29-2007, 07:38 AM
What a great kill.



It must stink not being able to start in 2nd gear :( I love starting in low gear (who doesn't?)


C6 is the best looking 'vette ever.

savage217
03-29-2007, 10:22 AM
I would love to see a vid of that because ive been in Paras car and wholyyyyy S(#* its fast

I was also thinking of that. I think paradign's car is faster but you never know.

Armo95
03-29-2007, 12:06 PM
I think paradign's car is faster but you never know.

I would hope so.

Doesn't his car have close to 600rwhp?

savage217
03-29-2007, 11:39 PM
His sig says over 600whp/over 500 wtq.

alanhenson
03-30-2007, 12:18 AM
What a great kill.



It must stink not being able to start in 2nd gear :( I love starting in low gear (who doesn't?)


C6 is the best looking 'vette ever.

Thanks man.

chip4
03-30-2007, 12:34 AM
the C5 looks good
the C6 looks DAMN good

:buttrock

dm4paintballer
03-30-2007, 01:33 PM
nice car and beat, but let me see you fit a car seat in there. lol..

blackbenzz
03-30-2007, 02:03 PM
C6 Z06 :buttrock

I'm on the list for the s/c version.

Watch out for the turbo c5 z06's though...

2000m
03-30-2007, 02:17 PM
i think you might be able to find some worthy apponents at supraforums:)

vibes
03-31-2007, 06:37 PM
Why not race Dado? :)

alanhenson
04-03-2007, 12:52 PM
Why not race Dado? :)

I'm up for anything. I dont mind getting beat either. I just love to race. What's he running?

reNT
04-03-2007, 12:58 PM
Dado has a BIG TURBO!!!!!! that's all i know lol

Boosted2003
04-03-2007, 03:28 PM
What a great kill.



It must stink not being able to start in 2nd gear :( I love starting in low gear (who doesn't?)


C6 is the best looking 'vette ever.


Or say cruising on a 50mph highway and be able to downshift to 1st gear is just wrong.

rseven
04-03-2007, 04:39 PM
It has headers, tune, filter. It dynoed at 22hp more than stock.

What did your car dyno at stock? Are you saying the mods listed above added 22rwhp? And you're at a total of 575rwhp right now?

I'm sure you can find plenty of competition over at supraforums.

siggyfreud
04-03-2007, 08:26 PM
Watch out for the turbo c5 z06's though...

Are you refering to the Lingenfelter Vette's? If so then yeah . . . 900hp is something to worry about lol.

Jim M3
04-03-2007, 09:40 PM
I wouldn't dismiss a Ford Cobra too easily. I have seen some of them dyno over 700whp. I also have seen a Cobra beat a C6 Z06 at the track with a pulley and a tune. The Z06 is a sweet car but anything with forced induction can be a sleeper.

alanhenson
04-04-2007, 05:10 PM
What did your car dyno at stock? Are you saying the mods listed above added 22rwhp? And you're at a total of 575rwhp right now?

I'm sure you can find plenty of competition over at supraforums.

I dynoed 466 stock and 488 modded. With 15% driveline loss it's near 575. I rounded up.

alanhenson
04-04-2007, 05:11 PM
I wouldn't dismiss a Ford Cobra too easily. I have seen some of them dyno over 700whp. I also have seen a Cobra beat a C6 Z06 at the track with a pulley and a tune. The Z06 is a sweet car but anything with forced induction can be a sleeper.

Yeah no kidding. I've raced few modded, pulleyd Cobras but haven't been beat yet.

928drvr86.5
04-04-2007, 06:30 PM
have you run into a 997TT yet? Stock for stock I watched a video of a 997TT soundly beating a c6 Z06 in the 1/4.

EaglEye
04-04-2007, 07:16 PM
Best Motoring =/ normal reality on the street, or track for that matter.
The Porsche's advantage is AWD....and that's just about it. It's fighting an uphill, and usually losing battle.

SergEG
04-04-2007, 07:28 PM
Best Motoring =/ normal reality on the street, or track for that matter.
The Porsche's advantage is AWD....and that's just about it. It's fighting an uphill, and usually losing battle.


WIth almost half the motor of the vette is there any real question why? lol
Raise the boost and the TT's can make some power....but thats another ball of wax

There is that guy out in Vegas with the 1500whp TT Viper --- Twin PT76 turbos on 30+psi......8.4L bored over motor.....power to spare

EaglEye
04-04-2007, 07:34 PM
Oh yeah, definately. 911 Turbos have always been nasty cars---I've got a lot of respect for them. Stock for stock, though, the C6 Z06 is quicker, especially as the speeds climb.

9mcoupe9
04-04-2007, 07:52 PM
ya know its too bad ur in dallas....my bro has been lookin for a pretty much stock z06 to run with si 04 modded cobra, he estimates that he can take the new version with all the mods hes got:(

BavariaMotorist
04-04-2007, 09:00 PM
I wouldn't even want a 1500whp car. That's just too fast. I'd kill myself.



And it just wouldn't be fun. There's a limit to everything....

Sniz
04-05-2007, 02:49 PM
I wouldn't even want a 1500whp car. That's just too fast. I'd kill myself.



And it just wouldn't be fun. There's a limit to everything....

there are definitely limits.....but check this out. THIS would be fun to drive.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.htm

BavariaMotorist
04-05-2007, 03:36 PM
2000hp? Too much...way too much!


I think at that point it just comes down to having bragging rights rather than just having a car that you like.

M3///Dude
04-05-2007, 06:03 PM
there are definitely limits.....but check this out. THIS would be fun to drive.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.htm


That was sick! 2000hp and still streetable! Where's Brad with his Supra when this guy was driving around ? :devillook
Thats another place where i will give Amercians credit, building engines that can produce (and withstand) unbelievable amounts of horsepower reliably.
Take top fuel for instance, those engines are still based ( and built) on the simple pushrod amercian V8, and produce 8000 + hp. We dont' see any other country producing engines ( that were car based) making anywhere near that kind of power, regardless of mods or technology. Maybe another reason why all the big powerboats, offshore race boats, motor Yachts, cruisers, and just about 99.9 % of inboard gas-powered speed boats use the GM Small Block & Big Block engines ? probally the ability to produce very high horsepower at full throttle for hours on end without breaking down or blowing up.

skd2k1
04-05-2007, 06:20 PM
Oh yeah, definately. 911 Turbos have always been nasty cars---I've got a lot of respect for them. Stock for stock, though, the C6 Z06 is quicker, especially as the speeds climb.

I've seen videos of the 997 TT walking a c6 zo6...

trevordr
04-05-2007, 06:32 PM
Best Motoring =/ normal reality on the street, or track for that matter.
The Porsche's advantage is AWD....and that's just about it. It's fighting an uphill, and usually losing battle.

please with a tune you'd be eating z06's for lunch, all the way to 200mph

trevordr
04-05-2007, 06:34 PM
That was sick! 2000hp and still streetable! Where's Brad with his Supra when this guy was driving around ? :devillook
Thats another place where i will give Amercians credit, building engines that can produce (and withstand) unbelievable amounts of horsepower reliably.
Take top fuel for instance, those engines are still based ( and built) on the simple pushrod amercian V8, and produce 8000 + hp. We dont' see any other country producing engines ( that were car based) making anywhere near that kind of power, regardless of mods or technology. Maybe another reason why all the big powerboats, offshore race boats, motor Yachts, cruisers, and just about 99.9 % of inboard gas-powered speed boats use the GM Small Block & Big Block engines ? probally the ability to produce very high horsepower at full throttle for hours on end without breaking down or blowing up.

Um those are NITRO engines, pour some rocket fuel into your car and i guarantee it'll make 4x the hp at least

M3///Dude
04-05-2007, 06:45 PM
Um those are NITRO engines, pour some rocket fuel into your car and i guarantee it'll make 4x the hp at least


Then it blows up after a fiew seconds to the floor and sends me to orbit the moon. :redspot

alanhenson
04-05-2007, 07:00 PM
have you run into a 997TT yet? Stock for stock I watched a video of a 997TT soundly beating a c6 Z06 in the 1/4.

I haven't yet but my friend has a 996GT2 which is as fast or faster than the 997TT and I smoke him easily. He won't even race me in his Viper. I've only seen a couple videos of 997TTs racing Z06s and the TT lost both times. Here's one video of both bone stock. Mine's a little modified so the TT wouldn't stand a chance.

http://marvinruc.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/z06-vs-porsche-911-997-turbo/

alanhenson
04-05-2007, 07:06 PM
I've seen videos of the 997 TT walking a c6 zo6...

Post em. I'd like to see that. The TT could win if it was a Tiptronic and the driver of the Z06 wasn't experienced. The Porsche is a much easier car to launch.

Jim M3
04-05-2007, 07:08 PM
That is pretty impressive, I am shocked that Z06 pulls that 997 TT that bad. Considering the 1/4 mile numbers for both cars.

MD318is
04-05-2007, 07:16 PM
Well couldn't get a zo6 vs 997tt, therefore you can dcide watching these three videos..

zo6 vs f430
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slMqP0Wa0Fk

f430 vs gallardo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HbqmDChyulE

997 turbo vs gallardo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf0U-nmLYTc

alanhenson
04-05-2007, 07:25 PM
Well couldn't get a zo6 vs 997tt, therefore you can dcide watching these three videos..

zo6 vs f430
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slMqP0Wa0Fk

f430 vs gallardo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HbqmDChyulE

997 turbo vs gallardo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf0U-nmLYTc

The crazy thing about those videos is the driver was new to his Z06 and he was starting in 2cnd gear.:rolleyes He's a member of corvetteforum.com. We gave him quite a hard time about that.

alanhenson
04-05-2007, 07:28 PM
That is pretty impressive, I am shocked that Z06 pulls that 997 TT that bad. Considering the 1/4 mile numbers for both cars.

It's the trap speed that matters for roll on racing. Zs trap anywhere from 123-127. TTs trap from about 119-121. That's a big difference. Mine traps 127 consistently. Stock was about 125. The current record for a stock Z06 on street tires is 11.2 and 10.85 for street slicks. That's alot faster than any TT has recorded.

MD318is
04-05-2007, 07:30 PM
The crazy thing about those videos is the driver was new to his Z06 and he was starting in 2cnd gear.:rolleyes He's a member of corvetteforum.com. We gave him quite a hard time about that.

LOL.

M3///Dude
04-05-2007, 11:04 PM
I haven't yet but my friend has a 996GT2 which is as fast or faster than the 997TT and I smoke him easily. He won't even race me in his Viper. I've only seen a couple videos of 997TTs racing Z06s and the TT lost both times. Here's one video of both bone stock. Mine's a little modified so the TT wouldn't stand a chance.

http://marvinruc.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/z06-vs-porsche-911-997-turbo/


Interesting vids. concidering the F430 beat the Gallardo, and the F430 is said to be Ferraris' second quickest car, only the Enzo is quicker. ( from another source: " Car and Driver magazine found the car's performance worthy of the Ferrari heritage, and recorded a 3.9 sec 0-60 mph acceleration run in the F430. This makes it the second-quickest Ferrari road car ever made, after the Enzo. " .
Meaning the only Ferrari faster than the C6 Z06 is the Enzo. All others are slower ?

alanhenson
04-05-2007, 11:49 PM
Interesting vids. concidering the F430 beat the Gallardo, and the F430 is said to be Ferraris' second quickest car, only the Enzo is quicker. ( from another source: " Car and Driver magazine found the car's performance worthy of the Ferrari heritage, and recorded a 3.9 sec 0-60 mph acceleration run in the F430. This makes it the second-quickest Ferrari road car ever made, after the Enzo. " .
Meaning the only Ferrari faster than the C6 Z06 is the Enzo. All others are slower ?

Well that's also excluding the F40, F50 and the Enzo powered 599. All are faster. The 599 is now faster than the Enzo.

alanhenson
04-06-2007, 12:00 AM
Well couldn't get a zo6 vs 997tt, therefore you can dcide watching these three videos..

zo6 vs f430
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slMqP0Wa0Fk

f430 vs gallardo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HbqmDChyulE

997 turbo vs gallardo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf0U-nmLYTc

There's also another vid of that Z06 vs a highly modded new M5. Here's the vid. You can tell the Z06 starts in 2cnd because the M5 pulls ahead so fast at first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEcfesmyRbE&mode=related&search=

JustinCSVT
04-06-2007, 12:55 AM
My uncle just got a heads/cam package done on his 300mi old C6 Z06. With a fairly mild cam and port job it put down 552whp/510wtq. Can't wait to drive it. :)

savage217
04-06-2007, 01:41 AM
Why didnt they have the murciealago? The gallardo is the slower version. I thought the gt3 would have been faster than what it was.

armstr0ng
04-06-2007, 02:54 AM
The C6 is the only vette I like. I've driven one a couple times before and I was amazed. I can't imagine what it's like to drive the Z06.

For all of you that haven't seen the Top Gear episode with the Z06.....Do it. Season 8 - Episode 2.

BavariaMotorist
04-06-2007, 03:39 AM
I think a big difference for the 997 turbo is the sport chrono package which adds boost at full throttle for up to 10 seconds at a time, increasing torque from 460 to 505.


That Turbo that faced the Gallardo had that package as I could see the timer on the center console.


This should make quite a difference in road racing.

Jerrysull2
04-06-2007, 08:12 AM
Thus why Corvette's are my fav car of all time... my dream car a 1969 Corvette with the L88 *drool*
'67s are better.... But the L88 is an amazing motor. A guy I know has a '67 L88 vette all numbers matching. It'll pretty much run circles around most anything ou on the roads...

MD318is
04-06-2007, 10:13 AM
Well that's also excluding the F40, F50 and the Enzo powered 599. All are faster. The 599 is now faster than the Enzo.

I was just reading up on that 599. They pulled some crazy times. Fater than the enzo to 60 and something like a 11.3/4 1/4 I beleive.

BavariaMotorist
04-06-2007, 10:39 AM
Yeah... too bad that Ferrari, a company founded upon the Ferrari race team, is making f^cking GT cars like the 599 and 612.



It's completely pathetic.



Make an f430, then make a super performance version of the f430, then maybe ONE GT car, not TWO.

alanhenson
04-06-2007, 10:49 AM
Yeah... too bad that Ferrari, a company founded upon the Ferrari race team, is making f^cking GT cars like the 599 and 612.



It's completely pathetic.



Make an f430, then make a super performance version of the f430, then maybe ONE GT car, not TWO.

They've been making GT cars for a long time. The F430 STradale should be out very soon. Pictures are already out.

BavariaMotorist
04-06-2007, 10:59 AM
Yes they have, but they've also had sports cars to ride along side.



Now it's just one sports car.. a 2 seater GT and a sedan. Yes, technically, the 612 is a sedan based on its dimensions :-\ Bleh.


At least the sports cars they do make are amazing.

MD318is
04-06-2007, 01:55 PM
Anyone got any pics of the 430 Stradale?

GG///M3
04-06-2007, 02:23 PM
The z06 is insane, btw is your friends gt2 modded or stock? if its modded and he knows what he's doing i think he would have you.

M3///Dude
04-06-2007, 03:01 PM
Europeans like the LS7 engine enough to use it in this car ? http://www.mt900.de/contact.php

and: http://www.mt900.de/newspics/production0.jpg

alanhenson
04-06-2007, 03:30 PM
Yes they have, but they've also had sports cars to ride along side.



Now it's just one sports car.. a 2 seater GT and a sedan. Yes, technically, the 612 is a sedan based on its dimensions :-\ Bleh.


At least the sports cars they do make are amazing.

Well the 599 is technically a GT car but it's faster than the Enzo around tracks and in a straight line.

alanhenson
04-06-2007, 03:31 PM
The z06 is insane, btw is your friends gt2 modded or stock? if its modded and he knows what he's doing i think he would have you.

Yeah it's just stock.

BavariaMotorist
04-06-2007, 03:38 PM
Europeans like the LS7 engine enough to use it in this car ? http://www.mt900.de/contact.php

and: http://www.mt900.de/newspics/production0.jpg




Mosler is an american company lol.

trevordr
04-09-2007, 05:46 PM
Well that's also excluding the F40, F50 and the Enzo powered 599. All are faster. The 599 is now faster than the Enzo.

how is the 599 faster than the enzo when it weighs 800lbs more and has the same engine w/less hp?

alanhenson
04-09-2007, 06:48 PM
how is the 599 faster than the enzo when it weighs 800lbs more and has the same engine w/less hp?

Computer engine software and tranny software apparently. To be fair I think it's about as fast in a straight line as the Enzo but on road courses it's been faster. It does an 11.2@130 in the QT, 3.4@0-60, 6.8@0-100, 10.3@0-125 and 15.3@0-150. It's damn fast one way or the other.

Bigsur1997
04-09-2007, 07:32 PM
Hadn't posted in here in a while so I thought why not. I saw some lights weaving thru traffic trying to get close to me last night. It was a couple year old Cobra Mustang. He wanted to race so I said what the heck. The problem is we were on a narrow 2 lane bridge doing 70mph which is 2cnd gear for me. I new if I unleashed the beast in 2cnd my rear end would start wagging and tires would be smoking so I put it into 3rd instead. Definate disadvantage but I wasn't too worried. AT least I wouldn't in up in the lake. I let him go first and get a running start from behind me. He was a probably at 80 when I hit it at 70. It only took me until 85 to blow past him like he was stnading still. I let it run up to 120(top of third) before I let him do the obligatory ricer fly by. The Z06 just never ceases to astound me at how fast it is.

I tried to get a 360 and a Gallardo to take the bait the other night but I think they new better.


Nice car, I do like the New Vette the most. The only thing I don't like is that everyone has one out here (WV, VA, DC area) I prefer the s54 M roady :)

Do you own a BMW?

wolverine
04-09-2007, 08:00 PM
Computer engine software and tranny software apparently. To be fair I think it's about as fast in a straight line as the Enzo but on road courses it's been faster. It does an 11.2@130 in the QT, 3.4@0-60, 6.8@0-100, 10.3@0-125 and 15.3@0-150. It's damn fast one way or the other.


As far as competition goes, I just read a roadtest, and the 599 is right there with the Enzo - low 11's at 130 mph. It's about the only stock car that is drivable everyday that will put a hurt on the C06 vette. And for only 4x the price!!

You will probably have a hard time finding 'worthy' competition - that new vette is just insane! If the other guy knew his cars, he wouldn't have messed with you. Looks like you'll have to try running some bikes...:evil2

trevordr
04-09-2007, 09:46 PM
Computer engine software and tranny software apparently. To be fair I think it's about as fast in a straight line as the Enzo but on road courses it's been faster. It does an 11.2@130 in the QT, 3.4@0-60, 6.8@0-100, 10.3@0-125 and 15.3@0-150. It's damn fast one way or the other.

Well, your numbers are wrong. The enzo, which has 651hp and weighs 3000lbs, is faster than the 599GTB, which weighs 3800lbs and has 611hp.

Why would Ferrari destroy the value of their flagship vehicle by producing a higher production GT that was faster?

BavariaMotorist
04-09-2007, 10:18 PM
I don't understand how it's faster in any way.



But enough people say it is.

alanhenson
04-09-2007, 11:52 PM
Well, your numbers are wrong. The enzo, which has 651hp and weighs 3000lbs, is faster than the 599GTB, which weighs 3800lbs and has 611hp.

Why would Ferrari destroy the value of their flagship vehicle by producing a higher production GT that was faster?

You know more about Ferraris than me. :lol :lol :lol
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v299/alanhenson/pics018.jpg

I don't think so. The Enzo was the flagship model a few years ago. New models always out do old models. Those numbers came directly from Road and Track road tests.

trevordr
04-10-2007, 07:33 AM
You know more about Ferraris than me. :lol :lol :lol
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v299/alanhenson/pics018.jpg

I don't think so. The Enzo was the flagship model a few years ago. New models always out do old models. Those numbers came directly from Road and Track road tests.

Nice pic but can you tell me exactly why it is slower (the enzo)? Why don't you mosey on over to Fchat and post up your ridiculous assertion so i can watch them laugh at you.

If the 599GTB is faster, then why does it get walked by both the carrera gt and the slr mclaren, when both those cars get walked by the enzo? The power to weight, cost and all other factors considered it just MAKES NO SENSE. Why would a 250k ferrari outperform a 1.1million dollar ferrari? You obviously have a lot of money in cars, yet know little about them (at least Fcars). Maybe you have better things to do, why don't you stick to them and stop making up retarded stories about how a car with less hp and more weight is faster than another.

enuff4speed
04-10-2007, 08:09 AM
you rock!