View Full Version : 335i 2007 fuel pump ????


adrianb26
03-23-2007, 05:32 PM
I bought my 2007 335i back in October and about a month ago I turned on my baby to go to work and it would not start.. It sounded like the fuel pump. I got it towed to the dealership and yep it was the fuel pump….. I thought this would just take a day or two…. Nope! This piece is in back order for about a month I was told they might get it next week..

p.s. I also got them to take off a car payment…

lhturbox2
04-13-2007, 07:54 PM
Mine went up about 4 months after purchasing the car...luckily for me they had one in stock and I was back in my car in 2 days.

It runs fine now...good luck.

bmwave
04-13-2007, 08:08 PM
just wondering if the pump issue has been resolved on newer build cars. Mine is next week...thanks.

budman1
04-17-2007, 11:03 PM
I have been without my 335i for 5 weeks now. Stopped by the service department today and was told there are about 100 fuel pump orders in front of ours. The sa said we'd be out at least another two weeks.

We only had the damned thing 4 months before the fuel pump went out - and we had it in the service department twice for surging and hard starting. This is our first BMW ... and most certainly our last.

Push the dealership to pick up a payment or two. They've offered it to us and that softens the blow somewhat.

Mark335i
04-18-2007, 09:48 AM
I have been without my 335i for 5 weeks now. Stopped by the service department today and was told there are about 100 fuel pump orders in front of ours. The sa said we'd be out at least another two weeks.

We only had the damned thing 4 months before the fuel pump went out - and we had it in the service department twice for surging and hard starting. This is our first BMW ... and most certainly our last.

Push the dealership to pick up a payment or two. They've offered it to us and that softens the blow somewhat.
Curious as to what they gave you as a loaner to drive? I don't know about IL, but in FL you would be in "Lemon Law" territory. Invoking that has a way of speeding things up. :shifty

Nadroj
04-18-2007, 09:53 AM
probably shouldnt have bought the first year of bmw's new turbo car....

Kevlar
04-18-2007, 10:07 AM
I don't see how the fuel pump on this car would be any different than any other car ... it's not like we are taking a 500hp special fuel pump here. :confused

It sounds like an outsourcing problem...

Tony P
04-18-2007, 10:51 AM
Any 328I's out there with this problem???? :eek:

Mark335i
04-18-2007, 10:59 AM
I don't see how the fuel pump on this car would be any different than any other car ... it's not like we are taking a 500hp special fuel pump here. :confused

It sounds like an outsourcing problem...
Isn't the direct injection system's high pressure fuel pump indeed different than the pumps on "any other" car?. It was my understanding that the 335i has two pumps, a conventional pump that feeds the high pressure pump, and the high pressure pump itself. It is the HP pump that is experiencing problems. It may indeed still be an outsourcing problem with Siemens as you say. :shifty

Mark335i
04-18-2007, 11:00 AM
Any 328I's out there with this problem???? :eek:
I don't think the 328i uses the pump in question. :shifty

Tony P
04-18-2007, 11:02 AM
Good to know...

AEarlM
04-18-2007, 11:05 AM
probably shouldnt have bought the first year of bmw's new turbo car....

Somebody can't afford the upgrade.

AEarlM
04-18-2007, 11:08 AM
Are fuel pumps (even specialty ones) really that hard to make/ship?

Was this issue taken car of in newer makes? I know the bulletin that was posted came out in early fall of 2006.

Mark335i
04-18-2007, 01:52 PM
Are fuel pumps (even specialty ones) really that hard to make/ship?

Was this issue taken car of in newer makes? I know the bulletin that was posted came out in early fall of 2006.
There is one case I've seen posted of a 335i delivered Feb '07 that had it happen. Other than that one, every one I've read about was 2006 production. The launch of the E93 335i and the impending 535 launch, plus the continued demand for the E92 and E90 335i's, is making it harder to get replacements for the failed ones in the field. :eyecrazy

Kevlar
04-18-2007, 03:13 PM
Isn't the direct injection system's high pressure fuel pump indeed different than the pumps on any other car?. It was my understanding that the 335i has two pumps, a conventional pump that feeds the high pressure pump, and the high pressure pump itself. It is the HP pump that is experiencing problems. It may indeed still be an outsourcing problem with Siemens as you say. :shifty

Damn... I forgot about the direct injection on these cars. They are indeed running a dual fuel pump setup. I do believe that all the E90,E91,E92,E93 all use the same in tank fuel pump, but the 335i uses an additional high pressure fuel pump which I guess the part that is failing when they said fuel pump.

I'll have to research the pump more before I speak anymore useless knowledge.

Mr. 3
04-18-2007, 05:09 PM
This fuel pump thing is interesting.
I know that the VW 2.0T FSI motors are getting fuel cuts after getting flashed by a surtain software company because the fuel pump can't keep up with the fuel required by the engine. The software increases the boost so much that the engine needs a lot more fuel.

So, Are these pumps failing under stock situations or is the pump failing on software modified vehicles?
I'm just curious if the same scenario is going on here.

BMWguy206
04-18-2007, 06:04 PM
Hey guys!

BMW is well aware of the fuel pump issue. The downside is that there isn't enough fuel pumps and some cars have been sitting at the dealer for more than 2 weeks waiting for one.

These pumps are failing even on stock and modified 335i's and retail cost is over $1200.00.

fatlazybloke
04-18-2007, 06:15 PM
Can you post any link to any BMW info on this one?

BMW is well aware of the fuel pump issue.

Evidence, please.

AEarlM
04-18-2007, 09:35 PM
Here

crash8168
04-18-2007, 11:24 PM
I don't see how the fuel pump on this car would be any different than any other car ... it's not like we are taking a 500hp special fuel pump here. :confused

It sounds like an outsourcing problem...

its a high pressure injection pump similar to a diesel, no comparison at all to 328.

Kevlar
04-18-2007, 11:49 PM
its a high pressure injection pump similar to a diesel, no comparison at all to 328.

Damn... I forgot about the direct injection on these cars. They are indeed running a dual fuel pump setup. I do believe that all the E90,E91,E92,E93 all use the same in tank fuel pump, but the 335i uses an additional high pressure fuel pump which I guess the part that is failing when they said fuel pump.

I'll have to research the pump more before I speak anymore useless knowledge.

:confused

Mr. 3
04-19-2007, 12:11 AM
Here
Thanks for the info! :thumbup:

Mr. 3
04-19-2007, 02:33 PM
Is the part number different on the new pump compared to the old pump?

If so, when I get my car, I want to check to see if I have the new fuel pump, but where is it located?

henrysko
04-21-2007, 03:42 PM
Here

Ours has fallen to the bad fuel pump issue; 6K on the clock, 12/06 build.

Hard starting / slow start prompted a trip to the dealer. They went through the bulletin and determined it was the high pressure pump. Amazingly, our SA told us we're 86th on the list!! So, it's either going to take a few days or a few weeks to get the replacement. They're unsure when the pump manufacturer will be producing/shipping the units, hence the uncertainty.

Though the rental's all on BMW, it still sucks.

My wife and I are :(.

adrianb26
04-24-2007, 08:02 PM
Well after a month and a half I got my car back. You would think I would be happy Right? Wrong It would have been just a month but they shipped my pump to the wrong dealer… (Ya right!)… And what made it even nicer..

Picture this! Your car sitting at the dealership for over a month and services guy pulls up a car. Leaving you wounding whose car that is. IT WAS MINE THE NICE PEOPLE AT THE DEALERSHIPER NEVER WASH IT! And to add to the great serves they scuff my front bumper…… which I know get to take back and have them fix it………

SocratesBMW
04-24-2007, 08:18 PM
Well after a month and a half I got my car back. You would think I would be happy Right? Wrong It would have been just a month but they shipped my pump to the wrong dealer… (Ya right!)… And what made it even nicer..

Picture this! Your car sitting at the dealership for over month and services guy pulls up a car. Leaving you wounding whose car that is. IT WAS MINE THE NICE PEOPLE AT THE DEALERSHIPER NEVER WASH IT! And to add to the great serves they stuff my front bumper…… which I know get to take back and have them fix it………

Sounds like you need to find a new dealership. I know for a fact that the people who shop at mine would not stand for anything of the sort and the dealership acts accordingly. They learned what happened from the last BMW dealer in this town. They gave us crappy service and we (collectively and with no organization) put them out of business.

GatorM
04-24-2007, 08:26 PM
Here


Christ. It's "vehicle LOSES power", not "vehicle looses power". Illiterates.

brokenbimmer
04-24-2007, 09:54 PM
After one day of ownership, my 335i died and it is still in the shop over one month later. It acted just like this fuel pump issue, but they say that checks good. They still don't know what is wrong with it, but they say all the diagnostics check good. It just will not run, even after changing several other parts. Does anyone know how long BMWNA will let this go on before they put in a new engine or just replace the car?

budman1
04-25-2007, 12:41 AM
After one day of ownership, my 335i died and it is still in the shop over one month later. It acted just like this fuel pump issue, but they say that checks good. They still don't know what is wrong with it, but they say all the diagnostics check good. It just will not run, even after changing several other parts. Does anyone know how long BMWNA will let this go on before they put in a new engine or just replace the car?

I can't imagine BMW NA would let the situation go on too long with no resolution. You'd think the engineers from BMW would get involved to make a determination of what was really wrong and how to fix it - especially if the dealer service department is out of ideas.

Sounds like you are a candidate for the lemon law.

budman1
04-25-2007, 12:45 AM
After one day of ownership, my 335i died and it is still in the shop over one month later. It acted just like this fuel pump issue, but they say that checks good. They still don't know what is wrong with it, but they say all the diagnostics check good. It just will not run, even after changing several other parts. Does anyone know how long BMWNA will let this go on before they put in a new engine or just replace the car?

Your post really hit me ... you only had the car for one day and then it died. It's been in the shop for over one month. You would think BMW would pull their head out of their arse and get you another car! Yeah, what a great experience, huh?

AEarlM
04-25-2007, 08:00 AM
Your post really hit me ... you only had the car for one day and then it died. It's been in the shop for over one month. You would think BMW would pull their head out of their arse and get you another car! Yeah, what a great experience, huh?

If it's real.

Biglew
04-25-2007, 06:43 PM
The high pressure pump is chain driven by the engine, the job is very involved, unless you wanna take alot of stuff apart it is not likely that you'll be able to check the part number.

You gotta understand as far as gasoline engines in production cars are concerned this is really new technology, the pump capable of producing around 200 bar fuel pressure. I do agree the problem sucks, hope your dealers are taking better care of you in the future.

budman1
04-25-2007, 06:52 PM
If it's real.

I can tell you my fuel pump issue is real. I wish it were not so, because the car was amazing when it was running!

AEarlM
04-25-2007, 08:37 PM
I can tell you my fuel pump issue is real. I wish it were not so, because the car was amazing when it was running!

I was referring to the person with the handle "brokenbimmer"... smells like a troll.

JrBMWEnthusiast
04-26-2007, 02:07 AM
It sounds like BMW is a victim of its own success. If the cars weren’t selling so well, there would be more parts in stock.

henrysko
05-01-2007, 10:19 PM
Just bumpin' it up. Interested in knowing where people stand with their replacement fuel pumps.

budman1
05-01-2007, 10:59 PM
Just bumpin' it up. Interested in knowing where people stand with their replacement fuel pumps.

Still waiting for ours. Called the service department today and they guessed it might be another two weeks. Our car has been in since 3/12.

The service advisor did tell me today they are telling folks with the fuel pump problems it will be around an eight week wait for the part. I am almost at that point now :)

henrysko
05-01-2007, 11:48 PM
Good for you, Budman1! Been watching your wait to see what happens. On the E90 forum, there are a lot of people posting 8 weeks. Hope ours doesn't take that long, but only time will tell.
Thanks for the info! & Hope you get your beautiful bimmer back soon.

henrysko
05-15-2007, 04:12 PM
We're still waiting for our fuel pump.... Anybody finally get there's? If so, how long did it take? BMW only keeps saying that they don't know when we are going to get one.:(

ToddAnisman
05-16-2007, 02:42 AM
We're still waiting for our fuel pump.... Anybody finally get there's? If so, how long did it take? BMW only keeps saying that they don't know when we are going to get one.:(

I've been waiting almost 3 weeks.

This sucks.

henrysko
05-16-2007, 10:03 AM
On the 18th, it's exactly 1 month. Spoke to SA yesterday, no word on delivery yet.

We'll just keep putting miles on their wagon loaner. But still, it really sucks.

:(.

ToddAnisman
05-16-2007, 10:42 AM
On the 18th, it's exactly 1 month. Spoke to SA yesterday, no word on delivery yet.

We'll just keep putting miles on their wagon loaner. But still, it really sucks.

:(.


H-

Who's your dealer? Mine is Century West. Do you know how many cars are at your dealer for the repair? Mine has 4.

-T

henrysko
05-16-2007, 02:55 PM
Center BMW in Van Nuys. They've replaced 3 pumps prior to ours.

Interestingly, the SA mentioned that one of the pumps came in 3 days and another took 3 weeks. I'm guessing as more fail, the pressure on the supplier for new motor production has been compounded by a % of failures in actual use. Our discussions regarding replacement pumps with BMW in New Jersey have been fruitless.

Now, in spite of all that, we still love the car and look forward to it's return home.

brokenbimmer
05-16-2007, 10:00 PM
Finally got my 335i back. The fuel pump fiasco took about 7 weeks to resolve. In the end, it took a letter to BMWNA saying how disappointed I was. After just a few days with my car again, the love is back. This car is incredible! Just hang in there...

paul e
05-17-2007, 06:05 PM
Unbelievable! The E36 was prone to: Rear subframe which needs to be rewelded as the shock RSM's tear through the shock towers; Tranny problem with 5th gear gate which 'disappears' around 45k miles; radiator, water pump, and thermostat all are prone to early failure. So, we know this is true of the E36 line, particularly the M3 line.. Now, we have a new model line: the E92, and already, we're having problems?

If you follow Consumer Reports at all, you see how the key competitor of ours, the Mercedes line, has managed to rate Unacceptable and Below Average in reliability issues.. For a make that used to be the envy of all, this is shameful how far its fallen. Now, whats BMW trying to do.. one UP Mercedes? This is disgusting. Im really sick about this fuel pump issue already.. God knows what lies ahead re reliability of this model going forward, but I wish you guys the best. I think that, as tempted as I might be, Im Never going to buy a new model in its first year or two, until some reliability data can be established, and the 'kinks' worked out, whcih of course should occur BEFORE it hits market.

Beer Goggles
05-17-2007, 06:17 PM
You can't test "mass production" until mass production is in full swing. If you don't like BMW, their service, or their cars...the option is to "not buy it"