Does anyone know if the 2 series coupe/convertible will be on the U.S market for sure and when??? Is it big enough for 4 persons to sit??? anyone???

never ever herd of a non-odd number series except 6 and 8

it's the 1 series.

And it's lame.


They need to bring back the 325i and 330i

These great cars were axed, for this crummy hatchback, tonka toy.

it's the 1 series.

And it's lame.


They need to bring back the 325i and 330i

These great cars were axed, for this crummy hatchback, tonka toy.

:rolleyes :rolleyes

never ever herd of a non-odd number series except 6 and 8

non-odd?:lol even*

non-odd?:lol even*

no, odd

1,3,5,7 are odd:)

except 2002,6,8

It would appear so.

However, the Audi A3 is (objectively speaking) a better car and is available in the US right now.

Yes, there is a 2 series, no its only a demo car so far, no real car yet exists.
http://www.wheels24.co.za/Images/Photos/20040415090346M2_1.jpg
The 1 series is a real car made in mexico and canada and we've seen them so far in arizona once in a while.

http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6041118.001/6041118.001.2M.jpg


someone should Pshop a 235

Guys, there isn't going to be a 2 series, just the 1 series. Yes the car is a hatchback but we will only be getting the coupe and convertible in the US initially. The coupe wont look anything like that hideous photoshop above. For pictures of the real thing check my post in this forum about the 1ser coupe.

Guys, there isn't going to be a 2 series, just the 1 series. Yes the car is a hatchback but we will only be getting the coupe and convertible in the US initially. The coupe wont look anything like that hideous photoshop above. For pictures of the real thing check my post in this forum about the 1ser coupe.

And... you work for bmw?

Because, Im more inclined to believe the various magazine subscriptions I own that all say that bmw is going to be making a 2 series sometime between 2008 and 2010.

It would appear so.

However, the Audi A3 is (objectively speaking) a better car and is available in the US right now.

How do you figure? Can't get the 3.2l and a manual together.

Yes, there is a 2 series, no its only a demo car so far, no real car yet exists.
http://www.wheels24.co.za/Images/Photos/20040415090346M2_1.jpg
The 1 series is a real car made in mexico and canada and we've seen them so far in arizona once in a while.

Looks like it has a double chin...

http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6041118.001/6041118.001.2M.jpg


someone should Pshop a 235

eww.
Looks like a 300C and a 1er had a one night stand.
3-1= 2 :stickoutt

How do you figure? Can't get the 3.2l and a manual together.Or the 2.0 and AWD. :) You're either stuck with an auto or stuck with FWD.

I was speaking about the European version (which I've driven along with the 1er), because I think Audi screwed up big time in their options list for the US market - no manual in the 3.2, no quattro only on the 2.0T, no three door...and they won't be selling the S3, either, which is the one to have. Still, the A3 has a lot of advantages over the 1 series. If you can do without RWD and don't mind the four cyl motor (which IMO is the better value anyhow), it's a solid choice.

I have a lot of issues with the 1er. It's cramped and (IMO) ugly. The interior is E90 lite :thumbdown and the biggest problem of all is that it's not much lighter than the E46. Steering feel and driving behavior are no different or better than any other contemporary model. Plus, knowing BMW, they'll only send over the high powered I6s and won't bother with the wonderfully efficient diesels (120d - 0-60 in 7ish seconds, 50 mpg!).

A3 is a mess over here for the above reasons (no turbo and quattro) combined with the fact that the pricing on the A3 is so high, why not just get the A4.

this is an abomination of the "ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE" -- damn!!! looks so queer... just like the mercedes c 230 coupe.....

this is an abomination of the "ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE" -- damn!!! looks so queer... just like the mercedes c 230 coupe.....

:lol Boy i would i love to see the look on your face when a lightly modded 135 blows by you. If they stick the N54 in there, it will be bmw's best sleeper.

The 1 series certainly isnt BMW's prettiest design, but the widebodies look badass. I mean come on, a twin turbo RWD hatchback? it doesnt get any better and more european than that

:lol Boy i would i love to see the look on your face when a lightly modded 135 blows by you. If they stick the N54 in there, it will be bmw's best sleeper.

The 1 series certainly isnt BMW's prettiest design, but the widebodies look badass. I mean come on, a twin turbo RWD hatchback? it doesnt get any better and more european than thatActually, the E87 is not much smaller or lighter than the E90. Generally, the difference is no more than ~200 lbs with equivalent engines.

It won't be any more of a "sleeper" than the 335i is, and everybody already knows about that car.

I have driven a 120d hatchback they are great, I was in France for my honeymoon and we rented one for part of the trip. It was the diesel wich I hope we get here, but wont anytime soon, was quick and nice to fill up in europe with their gas prices right now. The 2 series is the same thing as the 1 series, its just being thrown around name wise, if you remember they were originally going to call the E92 3 series coupe the 4 series. We will be getting the coupe 1 first around the end of 2008 as a 2009 model and the convertible in the following months, expect the smaller engines first like a 4 banger and then the big ones. BMW already has manuals for the 1 series cars being made available to tech's from what I understand after talking to my salesman, so it is cominng.

doesnt the 2 series remind you of crappy 318s no offense to whoever owns one

no, odd

1,3,5,7 are odd:)

except 2002,6,8

yea, that would be even....

no, odd

1,3,5,7 are odd:)

except 2002,6,8

non-odd=even....

yea thats y i said ive never seen a non-odd numbered car except for what was stated. i said non-odd instead of even becuase we all know most bimmers are odd numbered. who gives a fvck

Guys, there isn't going to be a 2 series, just the 1 series. Yes the car is a hatchback but we will only be getting the coupe and convertible in the US initially. The coupe wont look anything like that hideous photoshop above. For pictures of the real thing check my post in this forum about the 1ser coupe.

yes this guy is right, the shots of the now known 1 series where thought to be a possible two series awhile back just because they didnt look like the other hideous looking 1 series that were already out. There is no 2.

If you don't believe me, try going to the once alive 2 series forum

www.2addicts.com (http://www.2addicts.com)

and see where it redirects you.

-Chris

yes this guy is right, the shots of the now known 1 series where thought to be a possible two series awhile back just because they didnt look like the other hideous looking 1 series that were already out. There is no 2.

If you don't believe me, try going to the once alive 2 series forum

www.2addicts.com (http://www.2addicts.com)

and see where it redirects you.

-Chris

you were responding to posts that were 5 months old....

There is an blurb in the current Roundel about a new BMW 'small' car based on the Mini. Not another version of the Mini but a car that will be a BMW.
"Others speculate that Munich is eager to jump into the burgeoning European "microcar" market and introduce it within the next eighteen months."
Could this be the 2 series?

There is an blurb in the current Roundel about a new BMW 'small' car based on the Mini. Not another version of the Mini but a car that will be a BMW.
"Others speculate that Munich is eager to jump into the burgeoning European "microcar" market and introduce it within the next eighteen months."
Could this be the 2 series?

How about zero series? :D

you were responding to posts that were 5 months old....


sorry i don't look at dates when a thread is number two or three on the list, i just talk out of my ass without thinking about what i'm saying, which seems to be pretty common around here

1 Series hatchback= an absolute mess. These new wagon style hatches look horrid. I loved them when I had seen pics of them online but in person they look terrible. I hope we never have to see em here.