How come 98% of all discussions have to do with the 335i and the 328i is getting no love? It's not like it's a crap car by any means. I can find tons of discussions and modifications on 335i's but not too much happy talk about the 328i. :(

Also, what is the recommended break in on the E92?

Because there's LOTS to do with a 335i... and not so much to teh 328i...

Turbo engines have lots of modification possibilities, and that's probably the reason.

That, and the fact it's so new. On the Acura forum, all you see is posts about the new TL Type-S because it just came out!

Of course. But doesn't anyone LOVE their 328i enough to have discussions about it like people do with the 335i?

I just got mine... but I love it already!

What's there to discuss? I'm all for it!

Afterall, it's pretty much the same car, most the 335 threads are regarding tuning, etc.

Good question. I don't think it is from a lack of satisfaction with our cars. Probably more to do with the fact that we are too busy driving our cars, while owners of 335s are waiting for there license suspensions to end.

Good question. I don't think it is from a lack of satisfaction with our cars. Probably more to do with the fact that we are too busy driving our cars, while owners of 335s are waiting for there license suspensions to end.
Or their engine repairs to be completed... oohhh!!! lol

;)

Good question. I don't think it is from a lack of satisfaction with our cars. Probably more to do with the fact that we are too busy driving our cars, while owners of 335s are waiting for there license suspensions to end.

lol +1

I heard the break in is 1,200 miles...is that true?

I have a feeling that the 328 might turn out like the E46 323...
but then again, I think that's what will happen to the E90 325...

I agree with the above that theres LOTS to do with the 335 because of the turbo motor...

How come 98% of all discussions have to do with the 335i and the 328i is getting no love? It's not like it's a crap car by any means. I can find tons of discussions and modifications on 335i's but not too much happy talk about the 328i. :(

Also, what is the recommended break in on the E92?

Theres plenty of love, you just have to talk about your mods. I've gotten plenty of advice. This week I will post pics and add my garage. Tues I get my 19" CLS rims, I've added black / silver carbon roundel overlays, tint, and debagged my trunk.

How come 98% of all discussions have to do with the 335i and the 328i is getting no love? It's not like it's a crap car by any means. I can find tons of discussions and modifications on 335i's but not too much happy talk about the 328i. :(

Also, what is the recommended break in on the E92?

I LOVE mine!!! There, I said it! LOL

The other problem is the price difference between the cars. A 3 series will be my next car. When I option the cars equally there is only about $3,000 difference between the 328 and the 335.

Ironically the thing I don't like about the 335, is that I will have a hard time not screwing with it.

The other problem is the price difference between the cars. A 3 series will be my next car. When I option the cars equally there is only about $3,000 difference between the 328 and the 335.

Ironically the thing I don't like about the 335, is that I will have a hard time not screwing with it.
There should be more than a 3K difference, I think...

The 328i is a wonderful car. Not as fast as a 335 or an e46 M3, but
from standings stops I torched an e28 m5 and an e36 m3 in one afternoon of particularly spirited driving. I don't need an M3, I don't want the headaches associated with a few drawbacks of the M3 (really not a great car for winter in the Northeast, right? I can't afford the added insurance, let alone the added cost of the car. Who has money for winter tires/wheels?) The money I save is enough to get a SH*T box for the winter.
Most of the people on this site are what I consider to be pure BS artists. Sure there are some legit owners on here, but a lot of these guys are just dreamers and whiners.
I leased my car to help me avoid modifcations, I am still in court for the trouble I got into in my semi-race-prepared 1995 325i over the course of the last 10 years. My friend summed it up the best -- this car (my 328) looks like there should be a doctor driving it, not me. I agree, that's why I got it. When I need to, I shut the traction all the way off and launch once or twice or go fast for a minute or spin around a cul de sac or something. Then I go back to reality, and drive in police avoidance mode. The empire state is not f --ing around.
In short - the 2007 e92 328i is a spectacular car, and whether it lives a long production life like the e36 models is irrelevant. I love it, anyone who drives it, especially with a manually tranny and the sport package will love it too.
IMHO

There should be more than a 3K difference, I think...

You have to add some options to a 328 to get it to be "apples to apples" and once you do so, it is only about 3K. You CAN get a 328 for lots less than a 335, but not with the same options. I was pretty blown away.

A quick somewhat related question:

Once my car enters production (April), will I be contacted by BMW with a tracking number of some sort to observe the car's progress? If not, how do you track your auto?

lol +1

I heard the break in is 1,200 miles...is that true?
Yes 1200 miles is the break in, keep it under 4500 rpm's. I already have 5000 miles on mine. Doing great, and I love my 07 e92 328xi.

Once my car enters production (April), will I be contacted by BMW with a tracking number of some sort to observe the car's progress? If not, how do you track your auto?

You can track your car on BMW owners circle. Enter your order or vin # that your dealer should give as soon as you order the car, enter it in BMW website and it will tell you at what stage your car is in. The dealer has a faster update than the owners circle though. There are also cargoship tracking websites that can tell you where the boat is in relation to what coast it is going to.

The other problem is the price difference between the cars. A 3 series will be my next car. When I option the cars equally there is only about $3,000 difference between the 328 and the 335.

Ironically the thing I don't like about the 335, is that I will have a hard time not screwing with it.


Since Bimmer folks aren't used to owning a turbo here's some food for thought. 335 owners are in for a lifetime of worrying about every little vacuum hose, and valve in order to have peak power from their engines. I've owned two turbo Audi's, the turbos in both cases have been sound, but the rubber hoses under boost and vacuum stress eventually deteriorate and crack. The bad hoses are usually not easy to find or diagnose because some cracks are only easy to see while under boost; hard for a mechanic to simulate. The of course you have the B5 Audi S4 owners whose cars had a high rate of turbo failure due to the high heat stress the turbo's and engine oil were under in the tight A4 engine compartment.

One thing that I now know for sure is that the 328i is much faster than advertised. For the first two months I have not been able to really drive it since it was delivered to me in Chicago. Now that I am down in Texas I finally got to put my foot into it for the first time yesterday...WOW! When this thing has grip it really moves...no, not like a 335i but it certainly is much faster than BMW's ratings suggest. If you have any intention of modifying the car then you might as well buy the 335i...adding power to that car is pretty easy and not too expensive. Plus the price difference between the cars is not too bad either. However, don't let anyone dissuade you from buy the 328i on account of it not being powerful enough.
I just drove 1,100 miles to Houston from Chicago and I never once had to shift out of sixth gear to accelerate past annoying traffic. The sixth gear acceleration in this car is probably better than my 528i when it downshifted to pass! Off the line there is no comparison...this car is quick! I know that the twin turbo car gets all the attention and there is good reason...for everything I am saying about the 328i engine just think of adding 100hp and 100lb-ft of torque and you will understand why we love it...

I like the idea of the 328, but my pet peeve about it is that there is only available black trim around the windows, instead of the chrome trim like the 335. Why is this? They both cost north of 40K bucks. I don't understand.

The trim around the windows in my 328i is chrome.

The trim on any coupe is chrome. You must be thinking about the sedan

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Most of the people on this site are what I consider to be pure BS artists. Sure there are some legit owners on here, but a lot of these guys are just dreamers and whiners.

Obviously true, plus one other category: Those who have orders in and are patiently waiting for their car to come in.

I am sure that the 328i is a great and quick car as well. The people who want the 335i are just having to wait a while to get it. Dreaming, yes. Whining, you bet.

One thing that I now know for sure is that the 328i is much faster than advertised. For the first two months I have not been able to really drive it since it was delivered to me in Chicago. Now that I am down in Texas I finally got to put my foot into it for the first time yesterday...WOW! When this thing has grip it really moves...no, not like a 335i but it certainly is much faster than BMW's ratings suggest. If you have any intention of modifying the car then you might as well buy the 335i...adding power to that car is pretty easy and not too expensive. Plus the price difference between the cars is not too bad either. However, don't let anyone dissuade you from buy the 328i on account of it not being powerful enough.
I just drove 1,100 miles to Houston from Chicago and I never once had to shift out of sixth gear to accelerate past annoying traffic. The sixth gear acceleration in this car is probably better than my 528i when it downshifted to pass! Off the line there is no comparison...this car is quick! I know that the twin turbo car gets all the attention and there is good reason...for everything I am saying about the 328i engine just think of adding 100hp and 100lb-ft of torque and you will understand why we love it...

+1 I had a 325xi sedan and now a 328xi coupe and man the coupe feels like twice as fast as that sedan. WAY more then 15hp worth.

The trim on any coupe is chrome. You must be thinking about the sedan

Yes. I see it on the coupe. I was referring to the sedan, sorry I wasn't clear before. After reflection of your point, I am more perplexed. The 328 and 335 coupes and 335 sedan, but not the 328 sedan? What is the good reason for this omission?

Probably the same reason the sedans don't have the option for Grey Poplar, the sedans don't get interior ambience lighting in the doors, and only sedans have the ugly orange reflectors in the corners of the headlight assembly, etc. Just something to differentiate the models.

I agree that if they left the Chrome window trim off the 328 Sedan it would've made more sense to leave it off the 328 Coupe also.

My friend summed it up the best -- this car (my 328) looks like there should be a doctor driving it, not me. I agree, that's why I got it.
Hmmmm......I'm a physician. I'm not quite sure - should I be complimented or insulted by this statement? An emoticon would have helped here.

BTW - perhaps the lack of posts about the 328i and 325i E90's is a good thing. The first Bimmer I got was an E36 with 60K on the clock. I became a daily reader of the different E36 forums. I had to - I soon discovered the idiosyncracies of that model, such as the infamous dying water pump, the ridiculously designed microfilter change, the faltering blower motor resistor, the leaking valve cover gasket, and so on. Not too many people are talking about the E90 because there are no problems....well, at least not until the warranty is up :eek:

The new 328i has made the "mid-level" BMW 3 series a real contender. Its an excellent engine, and outperforms its posted statistics. It is certainly a lot cheaper here in Canada even to comparably equipped 335. I think BMW has got it right. The 328 has more umph that the previous 325, and its comparable to a 330 in performance. The 328 also has a "long engine" meaning its a great highway cruiser.

I've heard that the 328i outperforms the previous top of the line 330ci. Is this true?

Since Bimmer folks aren't used to owning a turbo here's some food for thought. 335 owners are in for a lifetime of worrying about every little vacuum hose, and valve in order to have peak power from their engines. I've owned two turbo Audi's, the turbos in both cases have been sound, but the rubber hoses under boost and vacuum stress eventually deteriorate and crack. The bad hoses are usually not easy to find or diagnose because some cracks are only easy to see while under boost; hard for a mechanic to simulate. The of course you have the B5 Audi S4 owners whose cars had a high rate of turbo failure due to the high heat stress the turbo's and engine oil were under in the tight A4 engine compartment.

This is very true. I have owned several turbo vehicles and I don't mind owning another. Having said that I probably won't keep the car much if at all past it's warantee period. If I was looking at 7 years 160,000 miles, I'd lean toward a 328.

This is very true. I have owned several turbo vehicles and I don't mind owning another. Having said that I probably won't keep the car much if at all past it's warantee period. If I was looking at 7 years 160,000 miles, I'd lean toward a 328.

I'd like to keep this vehicle a long time if possble (unless of course I find bags of money under my house). There are just too many little parts that can go in a turbo car, not catastophic in nature, but enough to be a PITA for LT ownership.

On a lease or ST buy I agree that a 335 would be great, but since I am buying with hopes of LT ownership and reliability the 328 makes more sense for me right now.

I've heard that the 328i outperforms the previous top of the line 330ci. Is this true?

I don't know for sure but it feels like it. Think about it, it's basically an E46 Performance Package car. Except it revs higher.

I just hope BMW comes out with a ZHP package for the 328, similar to that of the e90 330.

The E46 permfomance package specs are 235 Hp and 222 lbs torque, while these #'s are close to the 328's 230/200, having 22 more lbs of torque is extremely noticable and makes the world of difference. If the 328 had this equivalent torque, I belive the sales of the 335 would drop, just my opinon!

We love our 99 323i so much we ordered an 07 328i.

It has plenty of power and if I need more I pull out the 930 :D

Not to mention, our insurance is significantly less!

I am picking up my 328 sedan tomorrow. I'll get some nice 335i or 330 rims and I'm done. Its plenty quick,comfy and rides great. I for one am not wishing I bought a 335I. Maybe the sedan thou.

According to the manual on my '07 328i, the breakin is at 1200 miles. I own a 2007 328i, and it is an awesome car. Nothing any competitors in a similar price range can offer is comparable.

Agree Chris ... I spent 3 weeks driving everything in the class, and the 328xi was the obvious winner. It shames the B7 A4, and I'm coming off two of of them in a row (a 99 and an 04.5). The 07 G35X is a hoot to drive because of the brutish thrust, it just falls short of the BMW in too many other important areas. The only area it wins is a straight sprint, everything else goes to the 328.

I'm just trying to keep mine out of sport mode while I break it in, because it's just too revvy. I've got 150 miles on mine ... :o)

Good question. I don't think it is from a lack of satisfaction with our cars. Probably more to do with the fact that we are too busy driving our cars, while owners of 335s are waiting for there license suspensions to end.


So True!! I estimated a month before I lost my license...I'm now going on a month and a half. Two weeks on borrowed time. Any day now...

I'd like to keep this vehicle a long time if possble (unless of course I find bags of money under my house). There are just too many little parts that can go in a turbo car, not catastophic in nature, but enough to be a PITA for LT ownership.

On a lease or ST buy I agree that a 335 would be great, but since I am buying with hopes of LT ownership and reliability the 328 makes more sense for me right now.

im the same way. I dont believe in leasing and would like to drive a car a few years without a payment. I like the idea of a 335 but the long term issue with the turbos concern me.

I think most 335 drivers lease so they have their fun and dump it.

I was fortunate enough to be in a position to buy my 335i Sedan outright leaving me with out any payments of any kind. With that said, I plan to drive it for a few years and trade it in on the new model, or possibly an M3.
At my rate of mileage I will still be inside the warranty coverage.
Early next year we will probably trade our "01" Deville in for a 328Xi, or possibly an X3 depnding on which my wife likes best.

Al Wise