Ok Guys I have talked to GC and they gave us the go ahead to get a 20% discount on the Plates.

Original price is $299 @ 20% brings the total to $239.20

This coupon is valid from February 16, 2007 till February 28, 2007. This gives you 12 days to get your order in. There are 20 coupons available for this price.

The product part number for the plates is CCPE21. It is now on their website, and will have pictures of the actual plates up later on tonight.

The coupon code to use during purchase is HELLAE21
You can do this online, please make sure to select the proper shocks that you have. This will affect the plate you receive.
The plates feature (depending on your vehicle and suspension) +/- 3.25 degrees of camber and about 1 degree of castor.

Please take advantage of this if you can. I hope you enjoy your Ground Control Camber/Castor Plates

Thanks

http://www.ground-control-store.com/images/fullsize/ccpe21_fs.jpg

Description:
Ground Control Racing Camber / Caster Plates More camber adjustment than stock, caster adjustment, true aircraft bearings. Every component is anodized or plated, including fasteners. Adds extra travel to avoid excessive bottoming out, this is a very well engineered product. Camber and caster are separately adjustable by sliding the mounts, without removing any components from the car. The priority of this design is to allow fast, repeatable alignment changes at the track. The Ground Control camber plates feature two sets of bearings, a proprietary bearing, made to our specs by Aurora in the USA, which allows for articulation of the shock shaft. This spherical bearing is very understressed, as the Ground Control design does NOT support the weight of the car on the spherical bearing. Instead, the weight of the car is supported by a completely separate articulating needle bearing, which is also manufactured for Ground Control in the USA. The small diameter, but very strong bearing allows for the maximum offset possible.

:alright :buttrock :thumbup: Thank you very much CJ, I'll order mine right now.

You da man!

Thanks for the effort CJ - I'll get mine odered

Cj Thanks I will be ordering mine next week.

Sweet! I Just ordered mine! Thanks CJ!

I just bought 16 sets.

Thanks CJ!

Edit: Tried to get a 17th, but it said coupon code limit exceeded. Sorry boys, looks like this one is all dried up already. ;)

you just purchased 16?

I just bought 16 sets.

Thanks CJ!

Edit: Tried to get a 17th, but it said coupon code limit exceeded. Sorry boys, looks like this one is all dried up already. ;)

Wow, either you are joking or you are one serious chode. Your name was not on the list once, let alone 16 times.

Did you see the list?
1. Blitzed310
2. BoostedE21
3. vtgti
4. OLD MAN
5. fullswing
6. Yonkers320is
7. adamalexander
8. jjgbmw323
9. jchristians

Good luck making a buck.

Agree, if you want 16, email them and you would probably qualify for a trade discount (so you might get it even cheaper then). Leave it for the legitimate people who have a reason to buy them, nobody needs 16.

Agree, if you want 16, email them and you would probably qualify for a trade discount (so you might get it even cheaper then). Leave it for the legitimate people who have a reason to buy them, nobody needs 16.

Hey, you don't know me. I might have 16 E21's that im working on.

You all should know sarcasm by this point.

:rofl

I just bought 16 sets.

Thanks CJ!

Edit: Tried to get a 17th, but it said coupon code limit exceeded. Sorry boys, looks like this one is all dried up already. ;)

Did you at least get 1 set?

Did you at least get 1 set?

No. :cool

Gonna order some, but they are open only M-F

Gonna order some, but they are open only M-F

Do it on the website

Pity they don't send overseas. Spefic exclusion for international sales on their website.

Do it on the website

Why can I not find the e21 plates on the website??? Anyone got a direct link? (Blame it on a late night out and not being awake yet.)

Why can I not find the e21 plates on the website??? Anyone got a direct link? (Blame it on a late night out and not being awake yet.)

http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=735

search keyword is E21 Camber plates :stickoutt or CCPE21

Ordered! Thanks CJ! :D

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Got mine - :redspot Thanks CJ!!! :alright

Pity they don't send overseas. Spefic exclusion for international sales on their website.

If you really want a set I'll get one for you and I'll ship it out to you. Ofcourse I would need the money for purchase up front.

What spring diameter should i select?

I assume that one size is for OEM style springs and the other for coil-overs. If thats the case will these not fit if I choose to run coil-overs at a later time?

Thanks

I got the 2.5" ID for my coilovers. Not sure what the difference is. Maybe a different bearing.

Got my tracking number in the mail last night.

What spring diameter should i select?

I assume that one size is for OEM style springs and the other for coil-overs. If thats the case will these not fit if I choose to run coil-overs at a later time?

Thanks

Call before its to late.

I wil have to wait till fri morning before i can order them so hopefully there will still be some left.

what size did everyone else order?

So, the Spring Diameter...i am gonna do billy sports and Bav Auto lowering springs...which spring diameter do i need, 2.5 or 60mm? thanks!

stupid question...but, this is $239 for two plates, correct? site makes it seem it is for individual plates. is everyone just getting front set or both front and rear?

You could get a set for the rear, but it would do absolutely nothing for you as the rear isn't a strut, it's just a spring over shock. In the front, the upper mount is a locating point in the suspension alignment. In the rear the shock does nothing to locate the rear wheel.

thanks for explaining... iam just now at 25 yrs old getting into cars, so lot to learn. learned so much already by owning the E21. so, when you lower your vehicle there will not be negative camber in the rear, only in front? is the price for 2 plates? thanks.

thanks for explaining... iam just now at 25 yrs old getting into cars, so lot to learn. learned so much already by owning the E21. so, when you lower your vehicle there will not be negative camber in the rear, only in front? is the price for 2 plates? thanks.

The price is for 2, its like that with any plate you buy. When you lower the car the front camber is not really effected at all, it the rear that takes the hit. Camber plates can not be used in the rear only the front. To correct the rear negative camber caused by lowering you will need to get a rear eccentric bushing kit that goes in the rear arms where it connects to the subframe. The front plates let you adjust camber for a more aggressive steering response, and to also set your ride from street, to track settings.

The price is for 2, its like that with any plate you buy. When you lower the car the front camber is not really effected at all, it the rear that takes the hit. Camber plates can not be used in the rear only the front. To correct the rear negative camber caused by lowering you will need to get a rear eccentric bushing kit that goes in the rear arms where it connects to the subframe. The front plates let you adjust camber for a more aggressive steering response, and to also set your ride from street, to track settings.

CJ...I am going with coil overs..Is there a different part for this?

Might not be able to get the plates, CJ, on account of the wheels I just got. Sorry, man.

CJ...I am going with coil overs..Is there a different part for this?

These are to be used with coil overs, just order them and fill in the choices they give you.

Might not be able to get the plates, CJ, on account of the wheels I just got. Sorry, man.

Its ok, I already got mine.

Got my plates in today and they look beautiful. They are logo-less by the way.

5 days left to purchase. I hope you guys get them for those that replied to the other thread.

Just ordered my set. Thanks for talking to GC for us, CJ. Greatly appreciated!!!

Some pics:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plates1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plates2.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plates3.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plates4.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plates5.jpg

Hmm, I'm a bit confused. I'm not really sure what the difference is between the 2.5" ID and 60mm springs. I'm not exactly sure how the bearing mates to the top of the strut. Obviously your GC spring and coil over isn't included.

This pic:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plates3.jpg
...kinda looks like it has a groove for a spring, but you that part is "unbear'd" so it wouldn't rotate. Eh, whatever. I'll figure it out when I get my parts.

Hmm, I'm a bit confused. I'm not really sure what the difference is between the 2.5" ID and 60mm springs. I'm not exactly sure how the bearing mates to the top of the strut. Obviously your GC spring and coil over isn't included.

This pic:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plates3.jpg
...kinda looks like it has a groove for a spring, but you that part is "unbear'd" so it wouldn't rotate. Eh, whatever. I'll figure it out when I get my parts.


Usually camber plates come with an upper spring hat. I know mine did from IE and it looks like CJ's did from GC as well.

Nice!

yeah, you can see the anodized/powder-coated upper spring hat that the GC plates came with in the last pic CJ posted.
Hey CJ, do those hats have bearings on them too?

Here is the plate.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plate6.jpg

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Bump for a great deal on aftermarket stuff.

LAST DAY

Today the 28th is the last day to take advantage of this deal. If you have been procastinating, man up and buy the plates. This is probably the last time you will be able to save $60 on these camber plates.

got mine. Now to save some money for the coil overs......

CJ have you done much spirited driving since you got them or are they even on the car yet? I know Im missing out on this shit but it was between these parts and a weekend with my friend in Jackson Hole so opted for the short term rather than the long term pay off. :alright

I put mine in this morning. Definitly wasn't impressed with the fact that there were no instructions or markings as to which was which. I'm still not sure if I've got the correct ones on the correct side. They aren't marked what so ever. Also, to get any sort of real adjustablility out of them, you'll need to cut your strut tops. When you cut your strut tops, you'll obviously lose some strength, so you'll need to weld some plates back in. Would be nice if they included a template of how much to cut etc. Ugh. Oh well. They are in for now, but to get the full useage out of them, I'll get around to cutting things up later on.

http://www.chrisachilles.com/images/82_bmw/camber_plates.jpg

Are you kidding? You have to cut the strut tops to have the full adjustability? I know Jay mentioned if you wanted more than 3 degrees you could do this, but there was no mention of it having to be done to get the +/-3 degrees. I'll give him a call and ask for instructions and if there is anyway to tell about the degree of camber you can set. I hope its not necessay to use a camber gauge. If you do Harbor Frieght sells a nice one with a level float for around $20.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by cutting as of yet, since I havent put mine on as of now.

If this is the case I will not be a happy camper.

I knew about the no markings. I should have specified this, I apolagize that I didnt. I'm not sure if its just a matter of taking the slot and dividing out the portion from +3 to -3 degrees of camber with 0 being the center. Again, I dont know if thats the case, 0 could be skewed to the left or right a little.

I hope you end up being happy with them later. I feel bad that I brought these to the forum and people will not be happy with the purchase.

If you look at my picture closer, you'll see how tight the fit it inside the top of the strut hole. I'll be the last to bitch about having to do customizing. I'm just disappointed that they didn't give any instructions at all. And even after having them in, I'm still not sure if I've got them on the correct side of the car. There are multiple screw holes. I'm guessing that as you get closer to the edge of the strut hole limitations, perhaps you use different screw holes that provide more clearance. Dunno for sure. I didn't play with them that much, just stuck em in. As for the caster adjustments, those are even more limited. There's a fair amount of adjustment built into the plate, but without room in the strut top hole, you can't do much.

I'm not concerned with no markings. Actually it's impossible to mark the plates with degrees of adjustment, as the rate of adjustment changes with the ride height. Just take it to an alignment shop and have them set it all equal and get a base setting. Then you can scratch that into the plates as your base setting, and then play with moving them around to suit your conditions.

I hope you end up being happy with them later. I feel bad that I brought these to the forum and people will not be happy with the purchase.

I'm not complaining about the product like that. I'm sure I'll be very happy with them. I'm more concerned about some other purchasers that might not understand their correct usage, installation, and etc.

I didnt mean to say you were complaining, I just ment like "This guy just made me spend $260 on some plates that I should have bought somewhere else" type of thing.

:shifty Im going to call right now

Ha, I've blown more than $260 on far less... LOL

The products themselves are worth the money. They just need to include instructions. And as far the plates fitting the car, even the limited amount of adjustment is better than the zero amount of factory adjustment.

In this pic, ask them which is which. Is the fatter side to the back of the car or towards the front?

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/blitzed310/plates1.jpg

Oh yeah, and as far as installation goes with coilovers, I didn't have to take the front suspension out of the car. Just let the spring all the way down, and then pushed the strut down to pop the OE bearing out, and then slid it back together. One thing I did notice, that if the upper area was trimmed just a bit. Maybe taking that lip off, the spring could pass through the hole, allowing for very quick and easy spring weight changes.

http://www.chrisachilles.com/images/82_bmw/camber_plates.jpg

Still havnt got in touch with the CG guy. If you look here it looks like you do actually have them installed correctly.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/792000-792999/792851_11_full.jpg

One of the guys said that these didnt come with instructions because they are new. But all the others usually do. They can make some up as soon as I get ahold of the group buy guy.

But I'm not sure if that one's been trimmed out more, but you'll notice a lot more room for adjustment on that one.

Crappy pic, but 02's strut tower hole is much larger than the E21's.

http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/images/Raj%20Tii%2002.jpg

What an arsehole I am for bringing this thread up....

Could you possibly install the adj. strut tops on top of the strut towers??

No, you can't they won't fit....

if the plate is on top you can't assemble the strut. the adjuster plate is part of the assembly.