There's this M3 I'm looking at on Carmax, I really don't know anything about Carmax and Carmax selling BMW's. The 1997 M3/4/5Sp is a bit expensive for 15K though it has 94K miles BTW. :dunno

I used to do sales there when I was 16. What they offer is basically a vehicle that has been pre-inspected with a clean bill, no haggle pricing, and extended warranty. You're paying a premium for their overhead. Their mechanics are ASE certified...nevertheless, a german master mechanic would know more about all the little bugs and fixes. All those things you could do yourself if you were looking at a car anywhere else.

I used to do sales there when I was 16. What they offer is basically a vehicle that has been pre-inspected with a clean bill, no haggle pricing, and extended warranty. You're paying a premium for their overhead. Their mechanics are ASE certified...nevertheless, a german master mechanic would know more about all the little bugs and fixes. All those things you could do yourself if you were looking at a car anywhere else.

I'm guessing there really isn't any negotiating or "bringing the guy down?"

nope. Many have tried and and have left disappointed. Check autotrader and pay for PPI from a good shop. You'll rest much better at night from peace of mind and the money you saved buying it privately.

uhh i know a few guys that work up there but that is about it...which one is the M3 at? norcross?

uhh i know a few guys that work up there but that is about it...which one is the M3 at? norcross?

yes.....

yes.....
were you at the meet at stn mtn? if so did you meet Bret with the anthersite E30 M3? he works there and could probably help you out on the pricing

were you at the meet at stn mtn? if so did you meet Bret with the anthersite E30 M3? he works there and could probably help you out on the pricing

no unfortunately I wasn't there (long story). I'm not really in need of a M3 right now, but if I can find a cosmos M3/4 5spd that be awesome. If I was to buy one from carmax or a dealership, I would probably end of trading my 325i. I don't know how much I would get a trade-in value for.

nope. Many have tried and and have left disappointed. Check autotrader and pay for PPI from a good shop. You'll rest much better at night from peace of mind and the money you saved buying it privately.
So you are saying that the car at Carmax are in excellent condition and have many of the bugs/problems worked out? I can expect to do minamal work on the M3? I have done alot of work my 325i so I wouldn't be taking it to the dealer. I could just do all the maintainence work myself.

My dad has had success with two Jeeps, but that is about it.

no unfortunately I wasn't there (long story). I'm not really in need of a M3 right now, but if I can find a cosmos M3/4 5spd that be awesome. If I was to buy one from carmax or a dealership, I would probably end of trading my 325i. I don't know how much I would get a trade-in value for.

oh ok i got ya,well if you do go up there ask for Brett Wrigley or Dusty Edwards, they will help you out on the price better than anyone else

oh ok i got ya,well if you do go up there ask for Brett Wrigley or Dusty Edwards, they will help you out on the price better than anyone else

alright cool man. Thank you. :buttrock

alright cool man. Thank you. :buttrock
no problem. goodluck with your search

Do yourself a favor and buy from a private party, you'll save carmax's mark up and tax...

no unfortunately I wasn't there (long story). I'm not really in need of a M3 right now, but if I can find a cosmos M3/4 5spd that be awesome. If I was to buy one from carmax or a dealership, I would probably end of trading my 325i. I don't know how much I would get a trade-in value for.


So you are saying that the car at Carmax are in excellent condition and have many of the bugs/problems worked out? I can expect to do minamal work on the M3? I have done alot of work my 325i so I wouldn't be taking it to the dealer. I could just do all the maintainence work myself.

The car there are in good shape if it's not a "valuemax." If you have the time and patience, sell your car yourself. You'll get A LOT more money doing it that way. Again, price is non-negotiable. Unless an employee is willing to buy a car, then re-sell it to you, which I highly doubt.

i own shares in carmax because their idea is simple.

They sell good cars, in one place. If you have ever tried to get them to buy a car they wouldnt sell, dont expect much. All their cars are accident free. Your paying a premium but the model is designed more for people who want a used car bc they dont want to pay for a new one but at the same time dont want to run all over town.

There are better deals elsewhere but its just convienient to buy from them in many cases.,

i own shares in carmax because their idea is simple.

They sell good cars, in one place. If you have ever tried to get them to buy a car they wouldnt sell, dont expect much. All their cars are accident free. Your paying a premium but the model is designed more for people who want a used car bc they dont want to pay for a new one but at the same time dont want to run all over town.

There are better deals elsewhere but its just convienient to buy from them in many cases.,
Oh look.. wow that's amazing.

Oh look.. wow that's amazing.

whts up the picture of keith tanners car in your pic ?

whts up the picture of keith tanners car in your pic ?
He is Keith Tanner's personal mechanic.

He is Keith Tanner's personal mechanic.
And his mentor.

Carmax is a good place. My cousin bought, ok well her dad bought, a jeep grand Cherokee from there. Runs great, no problems, looks great and they take care of her there.

And how is 15,000 high for a 97 M3 4 door with a 5 speed with 94,000?

And how is 15,000 high for a 97 M3 4 door with a 5 speed with 94,000?

That car is worth 9-10k TOPS. E36 M3's aren't immune to depreciation of value, especially in the quantities that they were produced.

Send me a PM. I am the Asst. General manager at the Towncenter location, and I can get it shipped to Towncenter and give it to you at our cost. You just have to give me a reach-a-round.

Carmax is a good place. My cousin bought, ok well her dad bought, a jeep grand Cherokee from there. Runs great, no problems, looks great and they take care of her there.

And how is 15,000 high for a 97 M3 4 door with a 5 speed with 94,000?

It depends if it looks like 15K then maybe, a big maybe. I was thinking between 11-13K for that particular car and in excellent condition.

This whole E36 M3 used car value is so controversial and complicated.

That car is worth 9-10k TOPS.

:lol :rofl :lol :rofl

now thats funny


I'll bring you 18k tomorrow for you M5, thats all its worth.


That car is well worth 15k if its in good condition.

Dean is all about the reach-a-rounds

Dean is all about the reach-a-rounds

Your mom says the same thing. How funny.

Oh sweet, tell her I said Hi.

Oh sweet, tell her I said Hi.

She doesn't like to talk with her mouth full, but she waved..

:lol :rofl :lol :rofl

now thats funny


I'll bring you 18k tomorrow for you M5, thats all its worth.


That car is well worth 15k if its in good condition.

Are you serious or just delusional? How does your comparison have any justification with so many factors of the two cars being different (production numbers, differences in MSRP's, model years, etc)? The only people that think that E36 M3's are collectibles and are immune to established depreciation factors are uneducated owners who are slapped with a realization when no one buys their car after 6 months (look all over autotrader). Entering 4 smilies does not help you prove your point.

Are you serious or just delusional? How does your comparison have any justification with so many factors of the two cars being different (production numbers, differences in MSRP's, model years, etc)? The only people that think that E36 M3's are collectibles and are immune to established depreciation factors are uneducated owners who are slapped with a realization when no one buys their car after 6 months (look all over autotrader). Entering 4 smilies does not help you prove your point.

He had me at the four smilies.

He had me at the four smilies.

I didn't mean to snatch at anyone's thread, but its just grabbed my attention that E36 M3 owners get very defensive about the car's value in respect to depreciation. Having owned 4 E36 M3's myself since 2000 I know and have followed the market for them for quite some time now as well as other bmw's.

I didn't mean to snatch at anyone's thread, but its just grabbed my attention that E36 M3 owners get very defensive about the car's value in respect to depreciation. Having owned 4 E36 M3's myself since 2000 I know and have followed the market for them for quite some time now as well as other bmw's.

You've done messed up now. You said two "illegal" words on BFC. This post and yours will end up being deleted and other harsh and ridiculous actions might be taken.

Everybody focus, concentrate....steer off the OT road.

Are you serious or just delusional? How does your comparison have any justification with so many factors of the two cars being different (production numbers, differences in MSRP's, model years, etc)? The only people that think that E36 M3's are collectibles and are immune to established depreciation factors are uneducated owners who are slapped with a realization when no one buys their car after 6 months (look all over autotrader). Entering 4 smilies does not help you prove your point.

Ok then I guess the fact that I sold my 98 M3 w/ 70k miles for 19k was a lie to along with the 215k mile one for 8k too.

He had me at the four smilies.
:rofl

I'd say 15k is high. My brother got an immaculate 1998 Estoril with 94k over 1 year ago for 13k. I'd suggest going the private sellers route. The e36 M's will get even cheaper when the new ones come out.

:rofl

I'd say 15k is high. My brother got an immaculate 1998 Estoril with 94k over 1 year ago for 13k. I'd suggest going the private sellers route. The e36 M's will get even cheaper when the new ones come out.

I agree 15K is high in my mind too. Too bad carmax won't go down by a few grand.

Must be cosmos, 4 doors, and manual.

Ok then I guess the fact that I sold my 98 M3 w/ 70k miles for 19k was a lie to along with the 215k mile one for 8k too.

Wow, now that you've thrown that out there lets analyze your "sales" You bought that supercharged 98 M3 for what $16,500, if that (you probably negotiated the price down further). The other 97 M3 you bought from the member on here you got for what, $6,000? Don't try and argue with me about this, I know the market and I know what you paid for your cars including that 95 you're trying to flip like your other cars. The guy who bought the SC m3 got ripped and he's even trying to resell it on here. Impart some knowledge, Booyakasha

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Ali, I'm sorry bro, but I think you're wrong on this one...I sold a black 1997 M3 on eBay a couple of months ago, high bid of $14,900. It only had 98K miles on it, and was in pretty good condition. No major cracks in the leather, and no major accidents or paintwork. E36 M3s hold their value man, probably better than any other car out there on the market.




Btw, does anyone know eBay user ID halstnptmn146? I have been trying to get in contact with him to complete this transaction. I would have sold the car to the other bidders but he was the only one.

Thanks for all your help.

Ali, I'm sorry bro, but I think you're wrong on this one...I sold a black 1997 M3 on eBay a couple of months ago, high bid of $14,900. It only had 98K miles on it, and was in pretty good condition. No major cracks in the leather, and no major accidents or paintwork. E36 M3s hold their value man, probably better than any other car out there on the market.




Btw, does anyone know eBay user ID halstnptmn146? I have been trying to get in contact with him to complete this transaction. I would have sold the car to the other bidders but he was the only one.

Thanks for all your help.


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i own shares in carmax because their idea is simple.

They sell good cars, in one place. If you have ever tried to get them to buy a car they wouldnt sell, dont expect much. All their cars are accident free. Your paying a premium but the model is designed more for people who want a used car bc they dont want to pay for a new one but at the same time dont want to run all over town.

There are better deals elsewhere but its just convienient to buy from them in many cases.,

The cars there are not guaranteed to be accident free, just free of flood or frame damage. Of the two people I know who recently purchased there, both of their cars had previous front end damage.

Wow, now that you've thrown that out there lets analyze your "sales" You bought that supercharged 98 M3 for what $16,500, if that (you probably negotiated the price down further). The other 97 M3 you bought from the member on here you got for what, $6,000? Don't try and argue with me about this, I know the market and I know what you paid for your cars including that 95 you're trying to flip like your other cars. The guy who bought the SC m3 got ripped and he's even trying to resell it on here. Impart some knowledge, Booyakasha

So your saying that if I can sell a rock for 1million dollars I should not? Sell your car for the most you can get for it. It is the sellers fault if they drop the price. And are you trying to say that I did not sell my cars for what I said I did? If thats what your trying to say I am glad you have seen my transactions ;)

So your saying that if I can sell a rock for 1million dollars I should not? Sell your car for the most you can get for it. It is the sellers fault if they drop the price. And are you trying to say that I did not sell my cars for what I said I did? If thats what your trying to say I am glad you have seen my transactions you tool.

Hey man, we're all friends here. Watch it with the name calling, or I'll come over there and open up a can of Clark Howard on your inflated ass.

Dean is all about the reach-a-rounds

He's also about the hollowpoints.....

I had a buddy get a mediocre car that he bought without getting checked out first (stupid, I know) because he thought they were straight up at CarMax. Three months down the road, he had some major problem with it, they wouldn't fix it, and when he tried to work things out with them, they tried to sell an identical model with more miles to him for the same price that he paid for the original car. He's not much of a negotiator, but they're still as crooked as the rest of the Shifty McShiftalots of the car world. While I don't have a lot of sympathy for him by getting taken so easily, they wouldn't be my first choice of places to find a car.

Smiling faces and promises of "no haggle" pricing doesn't mean they're not crooks.....

too true.........

In the defense of Ali, he is right IMO. E36 M3's are not worth 15k. Yes maybe you can get 18-20k from them if you are lucky. Only a idiot would buy it for that price, and if you wait long enough, maybe that idiot will buy from you. It is not only a almost decade old car, but with the E46 M3 not being produced anymore, the E36 M3 is losing it's value more-so than before.

Think about it for a second, there were twice as many E36 M3's produced than E46 or even E30's making finding one easy. Being able to find one easily makes them less valueable. Also, for a example, I was offered to buy a Estoril E36 M3 that needed $1k worth of work for $8k. $8k.... It's a damn good car, but as with some people I personally know, E36 M3 owners have to adjust to the fact that it's a old, massly produced sports coupe/sedan.

Back on topic, Carmax buys their parts directly from the dealer, so you know they are getting the real deal when they repair their cars. However, the fact that the sticker is $15k for it.. I'd steer clear. They had a E39 M5 there for 39k with only 50k miles before, tempting...

So your saying that if I can sell a rock for 1million dollars I should not? Sell your car for the most you can get for it. It is the sellers fault if they drop the price. And are you trying to say that I did not sell my cars for what I said I did? If thats what your trying to say I am glad you have seen my transactions ;)

No, I'm telling you that you bought them for what they are worth (over a year ago for that sc one right?). I don't care if you ripped off someone else, thats on you. What kind of tool am I and am I metric?