Ok, so me and a good friend of mine (trialskid14) have been in a friendly arguement for about two months or so about whos car was faster. My stock( besides bootleg intake w/ heatshield) versus his gutted and caged 89 325i(coupe) with a 2.7l stroker dropped in it. I always said i would take him, but i was mainly being sarcastic about it. So tonight we decided to end our little dispute. We went to a place near my house that is about 1/2 mile straight and lined up. I tell him to count to 3 and go, i get my revs up to about 2100-2200rpm and he said he was at almost 3k. 1-2-3 were off! I immediately get about a car from the launch, but were are both spinning. I spin all the way to 6k in 1st and then i hook up, slam 2nd and pull maybe 1/4-1/2 of a car length...WTF then i hit 3rd and pull about 3/4-1 car length. I cut it off at about 75-80MPH with him MAYBE 2 cars back.

I will credit him with the fact that he spun about half of second when i only spun 1/4 of second. In the end it was a good race and wasnt a blowout by any means. oh and did i mention i have 241k miles?;)
Good race Dave:redspot

damn, i cant believe no one posted...

Vid or ban.


Just kidding, man. Good run, especially with how many miles you have! Impressive!

I used to have a stripped out e30 but am still amazed by my m50, even with 228k. Plastic motors are great, I used to be an m20 purist but I now the m50 is gonna stay. PERIOD. I just with i has vanos :( silly '92, completely dead until 2800rpm. good kill, what tires you running? sounds like a bit of wheels spin for launching at only 2200, was it wet?

Spinning through second on a stock 328? It must've been raining.

Spinning through second on a stock 328? It must've been raining.

:rofl


you should have done a run or two from a roll to really get a better sense of which car is faster. takes the launch variable out of the equation.

Nice kill

Sometimes I think why dont i spin a 1/4 through second, then i am reminded that I have 255's and they are new!

Good job.

I used to have a stripped out e30 but am still amazed by my m50, even with 228k. Plastic motors are great, I used to be an m20 purist but I now the m50 is gonna stay. PERIOD. I just with i has vanos :( silly '92, completely dead until 2800rpm. good kill, what tires you running? sounds like a bit of wheels spin for launching at only 2200, was it wet?
i am runnig some really crappy 205's all around, its my DD
Spinning through second on a stock 328? It must've been raining.
no completely dry, just really shitty tires.
:rofl


you should have done a run or two from a roll to really get a better sense of which car is faster. takes the launch variable out of the equation.
yeah i am still waiting for a chance to do that before he boost his car, then the M will have some legit competition
Nice kill
thanks
Sometimes I think why dont i spin a 1/4 through second, then i am reminded that I have 255's and they are new!
lol
Good job. thanks

must be an el cheapo stoker or worse just an eta engine to lose to a e36 328i. A proper 2.7 e30 makes 200hp and the same torque in a lighter shell.

must be an el cheapo stoker or worse just an eta engine to lose to a e36 328i. A proper 2.7 e30 makes 200hp and the same torque in a lighter shell.
no trust me it is legit, he and his dad built it(hid dad owns one of the best BMW shops in Ga) and also my 328 is some sort of freak, it doesnt feel much slower than my M3 or any other M3 i have driven/been in for that matter

no trust me it is legit, he and his dad built it(hid dad owns one of the best BMW shops in Ga) and also my 328 is some sort of freak, it doesnt feel much slower than my M3 or any other M3 i have driven/been in for that matter

what can be legit about it? There are lots of 2.7 e30 (even i's aswell as e's) but that says nothing about how good it is neither does where it was made but i suppose it must be good if his dad built it....lol

isn't that always the case that everyones car is one of the strong ones:shifty

What rear diff is the E30 running?

what can be legit about it? There are lots of 2.7 e30 (even i's aswell as e's) but that says nothing about how good it is neither does where it was made but i suppose it must be good if his dad built it....lol

isn't that always the case that everyones car is one of the strong ones:shifty
well if mine isnt a strong one then idk what it is, i walk away from my buddies 328i with dinan cold air, software and exhaust...but it is an auto

What rear diff is the E30 running?
3.73

Im not surprised at all. In all honesty, it is quite difficult to get any real power out of an M20. A basic stroker wil only be about 175hp (either an e30 323i head/cam on an eta or a 2.5 head/cam with eta or TD crank). To get more means porting, larger valves and bigger cam, and the HP gains do not just rain down like they do with many twin-cam motors.
I drove a fairly "maxed" out M20 stroker. This was an E30 323i head (#731) on an eta block bord .010 over, 11:1 pistons, 1mm larger valves, 282 or so cam and triple webers. Honestly, I was quite dissapointed in the power output. If I had to guess, Id say it felt like *maybe* 200hp, tops.

the most common 2.7 stroker is the super eta pistons with I top end. it pushes a lil more power than the 2.5 but its also running lower compression about 8.5 compare to the 8.8 2.5. u should be dissapointed because theres many strokers out there pushing good power. Jordan had a worked 2.8 and was pushing 198 to the wheels. he ran low 14's i believe. thats e36 m3 territory rite there

the most common 2.7 stroker is the super eta pistons with I top end. it pushes a lil more power than the 2.5 but its also running lower compression about 8.5 compare to the 8.8 2.5. u should be dissapointed because theres many strokers out there pushing good power. Jordan had a worked 2.8 and was pushing 198 to the wheels. he ran low 14's i believe. thats e36 m3 territory rite there


I am sure there are a number of M20s making decent power out there. It is not impossible to get power out of them, just difficult. Many people mention "Jordan's" car as the success story for strokers, but for every Jordan car, there are many, many mediocre strokers making so-so numbers. Take a look even at what he had to do to get just shy of 200whp:
-built bottom end with custom Hi-comp pistons, extensive headwork, custom MAF with unichip, headers, big cam etc. That's a lot of time and money for less than 200whp. An m50 will get you there with cams and bolt-ons.
Not bagging on M20s, they are nice motors, just not big HP motors.

Spinning through second on a stock 328? It must've been raining.
i spinn 1st 2nd and some times third in my 2002 323i allthough i think thats due to that i have 195.65.r15 inch rim loololol

yea but u have a fully new freshly rebuilt motor, swapping in a m50 is not cheap either, for what extra 20hp gain over the stock m20 motor. and e30 weighs less than an e36, the 20more hp in the e36 makes up for the more weight, so having 200whp in an e30 is pretty much fun.

yea but u have a fully new freshly rebuilt motor, swapping in a m50 is not cheap either, for what extra 20hp gain over the stock m20 motor. and e30 weighs less than an e36, the 20more hp in the e36 makes up for the more weight, so having 200whp in an e30 is pretty much fun.


Okay, this is getting a little OT. Im not talking about an m50 swap into an e30, just a general note of the difference in tunability between the two motors. My point is, I was not surprised to hear he walked the guy in the E30, because the average m20 stroker is not that powerful. E30s are fun, no doubt. I just sold an 89 325is a few weeks ago, and it was a great little runner.

pple don't do a true stroket, they use other bmw parts to combine into a new engine.