View Full Version : 85 M535i Vs. Toyora Supra Mk. IV....kaaaaaSMACK.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-09-2007, 03:46 PM Well now, this is more like it.
The M535ti has a Supra Mk. IV on its kill list now.
So here we go....I am traveling down a three lane street heading back to post. I spy a Supra Mk. IV up ahead stopped at a light behind some other traffic. I position myself to pass on his right because the light had changed to green and traffic was moving. As I pass on his right, I floor it and spin the tires causing a little rear end drift in his direction. This got his attention. He quickly changed to my lane and came up behind me.
We arrive at another light. I am the first car on the line and he is directly behind me. I switch to high boost (currently 14.6 psi). Light turns green and I proceed to spin and wheel hop thru 1st (installing the traction control for sure this weekend). The Supra is moving to my left for a pass....I hit second, spin...spin....hook. The Supra is at my left rear wheel, also spinning. I go into third and have good traction.....Supra is still at my left rear and I start to walk him. I shift into 4th still WOT and continue to walk. The supra lifts and hits his brakes hard. I SPANKED HIM!!!!
I also slow and we arrive at the next light and he lines up on my left. I then rolled down my window followed by the Supra driver (SD)...
SD "Well now"
Me "We are going to go to jail doing this" Me meaning another drag race.
SD "you car is running pretty strong"
Then I then give him a quick lowdown on the cars power plant. I then say "I will be nice". Because we were heading up hill with the crest about 1/8 mile ahead, we did not take off like idiots again due to lack of PO-PO visability. He did a couple of WOT sprints as did I and we parted ways.
Was defiantly a Turbo Mk. IV due to his power and the HUGE intercooler he had in front. I was also surprised at how much his nose lifted under WOT. It was much like the 280ZX.
Ok now, is that a good kill or what? Looking forward to tuning the damn car and going 20 psi.
<img src="http://e28-535i.com/upload/Kill_1.jpg">
Going to chill for awhile...I am pushing my luck with the local police.
ImportFanatic 02-09-2007, 04:03 PM Well now, this is more like it.
The M535ti has a Supra Mk. IV on its kill list now.
So here we go....I am traveling down a three lane street heading back to post. I spy a Supra Mk. IV up ahead stopped at a light behind some other traffic. I position myself to pass on his right because the light had changed to green and traffic was moving. As I pass on his right, I floor it and spin the tires causing a little rear end drift in his direction. This got his attention. He quickly changed to my lane and came up behind me.
We arrive at another light. I am the first car on the line and he is directly behind me. I switch to high boost (currently 14.6 psi). Light turns green and I proceed to spin and wheel hop thru 1st (installing the traction control for sure this weekend). The Supra is moving to my left for a pass....I hit second, spin...spin....hook. The Supra is at my left rear wheel, also spinning. I go into third and have good traction.....Supra is still at my left rear and I start to walk him. I shift into 4th still WOT and continue to walk. The supra lifts and hits his brakes hard. I SPANKED HIM!!!!
I also slow and we arrive at the next light and he lines up on my left. I then rolled down my followed by the Supra driver (SD)...
SD "Well now"
Me "We are going to go to jail doing this" Me meaning another drag race.
SD "you car is running pretty strong"
Then I then give him a quick lowdown on the cars power plant. I then say "I will be nice". Because we were heading up hill with the crest about 1/8 mile ahead, we did not take off like idiots again due to lack of PO-PO viability. He did a couple of WOT sprints as did I and we parted ways.
Was defiantly a Turbo Mk. VI (not sure if they all were) due to his power and the HUGE intercooler he had in front. I was also surprised at how much his nose lifted under WOT. It was much like the 280ZX.
Ok now, is that a good kill or what? Looking forward to tuning the damn car and going 20 psi.
<img src="http://e28-535i.com/upload/Kill.jpg">
Going to chill for awhile...I am pushing my luck with the local police.
Great kill, 2jz engines are powerplants not to be reckon with. I usually consider them even more dangerous from a roll..
evo connevo 02-09-2007, 06:01 PM nice kill, do you have any pics on the board?
sausrigging 02-09-2007, 06:06 PM Dukes car is hot, look it up on roadfly.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-09-2007, 06:12 PM Not up to date but has some good pictures - http://www.cardomain.com/ride/269576
I have not been on Roadfly in many years.
nicegsxr 02-09-2007, 06:41 PM Great story... and sweet ride. =)
Catfood 02-09-2007, 08:28 PM wow you got yourself a little monster, time to get wider rear tires, as you add power its gonna get harder to put them down.
kendogg 02-09-2007, 08:43 PM Pimptastic Duke!!!
Next thing you need to d, once your at 20 psi, is to kill one of those 700+ whp Supra's, or even a 1000 whp, because we all know they're just dyno queens, and teh M535i monster is all power :)
84x318i 02-09-2007, 08:50 PM Spinning your wheels while someone is directly behind you is a good way to crack a windshield and chip paint.:rolleyes
ask me how i know (and I wasnt the car spinning my wheels)
Dumbass
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-09-2007, 09:11 PM Spinning your wheels while someone is directly behind you is a good way to crack a windshield and chip paint.:rolleyes
ask me how i know (and I wasnt the car spinning my wheels)
Dumbass
Don't be a hater (don't take your cracked windshield out on me) .....I certainly was not doing it on purpose.
Peace.
mikese36 02-09-2007, 09:25 PM Wow!Your car is Awesome!!
84x318i 02-09-2007, 09:30 PM Guess I'm still a little bitter from that...
:D
sausrigging 02-09-2007, 09:46 PM Guess I'm still a little bitter from that...
:D
Guess so..
jbass524 02-09-2007, 10:00 PM Great car. Love the care you've put into it. Inspiring.
sausrigging 02-09-2007, 10:14 PM Pimptastic Duke!!!
Next thing you need to d, once your at 20 psi, is to kill one of those 700+ whp Supra's, or even a 1000 whp, because we all know they're just dyno queens, and teh M535i monster is all power :)
I dont think the big sixes head is going to breath well enough to hang with those big boys, maybe the bpu ones though..
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-09-2007, 10:45 PM wow you got yourself a little monster, time to get wider rear tires, as you add power its gonna get harder to put them down.
I would love too. I have 255/40 17's now and there is no more room at all. I rub on a regular basis.
Next thing you need to d, once your at 20 psi, is to kill one of those 700+ whp Supra's, or even a 1000 whp, because we all know they're just dyno queens, and the M535i monster is all power
Well thank you, I don't see that happening though.
I don't think the big sixes head is going to breath well enough to hang with those big boys, maybe the bpu ones though..
I agree. I may have the same or more displacement. You cant beat a 4 valve head. I can kick their ass in torque. Dyno verified 298 RWHP and 316 RWTQ at 7.5 psi. Will let all of you know what I get soon. Will be tuning the car from 15-20 psi on a dyno. The M106/M30 is a TORQUE monster.
Thank you all of the complements, it makes it all worth it.
For you that want to see that car, it will be at 5er FEST 2007. Check this link - http://www.5erfest.net/index.asp
Brewster 02-10-2007, 12:40 AM Good kill dude, should've asked the guy what mods he had.
Jimbo302 02-10-2007, 06:00 PM Nice. It would be interesting to know his mods. Sounds like you are making some good power.
Brad D. 02-11-2007, 09:54 PM Sounds like you beat a bolt on Supra. Good kill nevertheless. There are 2 possibilities, either he was on pump gas (about 370rwhp) or race gas (from 400rwhp-430rwhp).
theLender 02-11-2007, 11:44 PM good story, nice kill, glad to hear that he was decent about it too
An E28 is also a rather light car. I would hazard a guess it is hundreds of pounds lighter than a Supra but I could be wrong.
Sweet car. A nice E28 still turns my head.
backtrail69 02-12-2007, 02:35 PM Good kill nice e28s are so hard to find. Most of what I see are beat 528e that are infected with rust and autotragics.
VivaM3 02-12-2007, 03:28 PM nice kill :buttrock although i can't say i like that picture of the Supra you posted up :nono ;) . sounds like you ran a stock TT (or maybe he had a bolt-on or two) the way you spanked him. you are making some good power to be pulling a Supra like that on such low boost.
Pimptastic Duke!!!
Next thing you need to d, once your at 20 psi, is to kill one of those 700+ whp Supra's, or even a 1000 whp, because we all know they're just dyno queens, and teh M535i monster is all power :)
dyno queen comments aside, it seems you're expecting a bit much from his car @ 20psi. that would be more than enough to run against a healthy BPU Supra, but 700+whp Supra? not a chance in hell...
But he didn't run a 700+hp Supra. Every Supra thread ends up being a thread about how much faster a gonzo Supra would have been.
DEFKON99 02-12-2007, 03:54 PM woahers v8 nice kill!
VivaM3 02-12-2007, 04:31 PM Every Supra thread ends up being a thread about how much faster a gonzo Supra would have been.
:rolleyes ...and every time its instigated by either an intentionally provoking comment or, in this case, a plain old uninformed assumption (i.e. the one i quoted). just imagine...no Supra threads would turn out like that if absurd assumptions weren't conjured up and stated by non-Supra owners in every one of those threads.
But he didn't run a 700+hp Supra.
hence the reason i'm addressing the fellow who mentioned a 700+whpo Supra, and not the OP. in fact, if you check out POST #16 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8659988&postcount=16) you'll notice the OP shares my sentiment...well, maybe not exactly, but he at least has a ballpark idea as to what to expect when he finally reaches 20psi...and he knows it isn't quite in the same league as a 700+whp Supra. so are you the only one who has an issue with my post?
gti1689 02-12-2007, 04:32 PM But he didn't run a 700+hp Supra. Every Supra thread ends up being a thread about how much faster a gonzo Supra would have been.
did u miss the comments from the two supra owners who both talked about bolt on supras?
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-12-2007, 04:35 PM An E28 is also a rather light car. I would hazard a guess it is hundreds of pounds lighter than a Supra but I could be wrong.
Sweet car. A nice E28 still turns my head.
My car is a euro M535i model. With half a tank of fuel it weighs in at 3002 lbs.
I installed the RaceLogic Traction Control. I am having a problem with one ABS sensor so the system is not up yet. I am very much looking forward to using the optional Launch Control and Full Throttle Shift features. My days of spinning are just about over. Just playing around with he launch control was cool. Throttle to the floor and the RLTC holds the desired RPM by cutting the signal to injectors in a programmed sequence (Meaning, no fuel at all not reduced fuel.....no chance of leaning out the engine) which allows the turbo to build boost. It sounds really good and not like the engine is about to come apart.
you'll notice the OP shares my sentiment...well, maybe not exactly, but he at least has a ballpark idea as to what to expect when he finally reaches 20psi...and he knows it isn't quite in the same league as a 700+whp Supra. so are you the only one who has an issue with my post?
Hey VivaM3,
What kind of boost are the 2JZ running to get the 700+ RWHP? Also, what is a BPU Supra?
Ahmed303 02-12-2007, 04:48 PM Nice Kill Duke. Now I know your car and try not to mess with you if we meet.
:D
VivaM3 02-12-2007, 05:06 PM Hey VivaM3,
What kind of boost are the 2JZ running to get the 700+ RWHP? Also, what is a BPU Supra?
BPU = Basic Performance Upgrades, which is basically exhaust and a boost controller. and i don't know specifically how much boost it takes to make 700+ whp - it really depends on what turbo you're using. but i can tell you that nobody is make 700+whp on the stock turbos, hence the reason i cannot give you an exact boost #. you might want to ask Brad with the black Supra - he could probably ballpark some boost #'s for you based on a few different sized turbos for that particular power range.
Brad D. 02-12-2007, 05:15 PM An E28 is also a rather light car. I would hazard a guess it is hundreds of pounds lighter than a Supra but I could be wrong.
Sweet car. A nice E28 still turns my head.
Edit, see owner note below.
Pimptastic Duke!!!
Next thing you need to d, once your at 20 psi, is to kill one of those 700+ whp Supra's, or even a 1000 whp, because we all know they're just dyno queens, and teh M535i monster is all power :)
Yeah we all know Supra's are only dyno queens. That's why I bought mine, I drive it to the dyno once a year and garage it otherwise.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-12-2007, 05:17 PM My research says his car weighs 3420 stock. Add the turbo kit and you have another 100 pounds easy. That is not lighter than even a Targa Supra. (Unless he has weight reduction on top of the turbo kit.)
If you're talking about my car, mine weighed 50 pounds less than his with the stock turbos, and now probably weighs about 350 pounds less.
See my post above.....my wet weight is 3002 lbs. It is not a US spec car. I have installed Recaro seats since I weighed the car. I installed a 3.07 LSD this past weekend. I had a small case 3.25 LSD which was 15 lbs lighter than the 3.07 I just installed. So the seats and diff are probably a wash.
Brad D. 02-12-2007, 05:24 PM See my post above.....my wet weight is 3002 lbs. It is not a US spec car. I have installed Recaro seats since I weighed the car. I installed a 3.07 LSD this past weekend. I had a small case 3.25 LSD which was 15 lbs lighter than the 3.07 I just installed. So the seats and diff are probably a wash.
You weigh 3002 after the turbo kit?
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-12-2007, 05:36 PM Your weigh 3002 after the turbo kit?
My Bad, nope...this was before. I did have the BMW factory exhaust which was extremely heavy. I have a 3" stainless steel with gutted Kat and a Magnaflow muffler now. Now if you take in to account that the factory cast exhaust manifold probably weighs the same as the turbo manifold, you would be looking at the additional weight of the turbo (TO4E with a GT35R compressor), W/A intercooler, water for the W/A intercooler, and the water lines, it will add weight but not near 100 lbs though. I need to find a scale and weight it again though, this will end the speculation.
mvallido 02-12-2007, 05:47 PM Nice kill! We have a few of the 700+hp supras here in my area and they are super fast.
VivaM3 02-12-2007, 06:06 PM hey Duke, click on the "everything you want to know about my car here" link in Brad's sig. i didn't see any dyno's right @ 700whp, but you can see that he made 545rwhp and 615rwhp @ 18psi and 25psi respectively on a 67mm turbo. one could probably push to 650rwhp on that particular turbo with even more aggressive tuning, but i think that's past the efficiency range for that turbo.
phantom3 02-12-2007, 06:33 PM wow , i bet the supra was extremely shocked . nice ride and like someone said
very inspiring . i have a new idol
PukiCabuki 02-12-2007, 07:14 PM Just for comparative purposes....
My car weighs 3450 lbs with a full tank of gas *scale verified* (bigger wheel tires/coilovers being only modifications) and made 290rwhp and 297rwtq.
His car 3002 *supposed* with 298rwhp and 316rwtq.
A lightly modded Supra is going to put down a good amount more hp/tq than the OP. Assuming the Supra is a 6-speed I don't see you walking him by any stretch of the word "walk." I can see you pulling a car or two on my stock Supra but not pulling hard on a lightly modded one. Especially with those long gears.
I'm not saying you didn't win. I believe that. Just saying you may be embelishing the severity of the win a tad. Remember "objects in mirror are closer than they appear."
Good kill none the less. Sounds like a nice car you've got.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-12-2007, 08:00 PM His car 3002 *supposed* with 298rwhp and 316rwtq.
Please read my OP. The 298/316 was at 7.5 psi. I stated that I selected high boost on my boost controller which is 14.6 psi. Don't know what HP/TQ that is but I will find out on Friday and I know that is is more than I put down at 7.5 psi. Car will be tuned to 20 psi. I will also verify the weight of my car tomorrow. I don't like to state anything that is not fact.
PukiCabuki 02-12-2007, 08:28 PM Please read my OP. The 298/316 was at 7.5 psi. I stated that I selected high boost on my boost controller which is 14.6 psi. Don't know what HP/TQ that is but I will find out on Friday and I know that is is more than I put down at 7.5 psi. Car will be tuned to 20 psi. I will also verify the weight of my car tomorrow. I don't like to state anything that is not fact.
I appologize for that. I was looking to see what kind of power you made and only noticed the 298/316 reference. Thats my bad.
fm.illuminatus 02-12-2007, 09:10 PM Very nice kill, supra's have a reputation for fast. Do you have the numbers on your car?
kendogg 02-12-2007, 09:45 PM nice kill :buttrock although i can't say i like that picture of the Supra you posted up :nono ;) . sounds like you ran a stock TT (or maybe he had a bolt-on or two) the way you spanked him. you are making some good power to be pulling a Supra like that on such low boost.
dyno queen comments aside, it seems you're expecting a bit much from his car @ 20psi. that would be more than enough to run against a healthy BPU Supra, but 700+whp Supra? not a chance in hell...
Well, I'm sure I"m wrong as well, but I think Duke's car + 500+ whp plus his RaceLogic TCU, I think he could give one helluva fighting chance.
Duke, which trans are you running, I'm assuming a dogleg 265? That would be a close ratio box as well, correct? With the 3.07 rear diff, I would love to graph out the rpm vs. speed from my excel spreadsheet I have.
Cacatfish 02-12-2007, 09:48 PM Duke, which trans are you running, I'm assuming a dogleg 265? That would be a close ratio box as well, correct? With the 3.07 rear diff, I would love to graph out the rpm vs. speed from my excel spreadsheet I have.
With a turbo, you'd probably want to run an overdrive box with the 3.07. A CR box wouldnt have enough gear for the boost.
VivaM3 02-12-2007, 09:52 PM Well, I'm sure I"m wrong as well, but I think Duke's car + 500+ whp plus his RaceLogic TCU, I think he could give one helluva fighting chance.
yeah, i overlooked the RLTC. with that, he certainly stands a chance of getting the jump and holding the lead for quite sometime beofre a 700+whp car overtakes him. a few high HP Supras out there are using RLTC quite successfully.
anyways, when i first saw your post i actually thought you really believed that apples vs apples, the 500whp BMW was gonna pull on a 700whp Supra. my mistake. come to think of it, that RLTC should give him an advantage over a fair amount of cars with higher HP...in the first half of the race anyways.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-12-2007, 10:12 PM Very nice kill, supra's have a reputation for fast. Do you have the numbers on your car?
Only for 7.5 psi…….more this Friday.
Originally Posted by kendogg
Duke, which trans are you running, I'm assuming a dogleg 265? That would be a close ratio box as well, correct? With the 3.07 rear diff, I would love to graph out the rpm vs. speed from my excel spreadsheet I have.
I have the overdrive 265. Came standard in the 85 M535i. With the 3.07 -
1st gear = 40 mph
2nd gear = 70 mph
3rd gear = 115 mph
4th, 5th gear – go to jail car gets impounded mph.
I did not have this diff installed during the Supra kill, had a 3.25 LSD.
Originally Posted by kendogg
Well, I'm sure I"m wrong as well, but I think Duke's car + 500+ whp plus his RaceLogic TCU, I think he could give one helluva fighting chance.
The RLTC was not fully installed and working for the Supra kill. As a matter of fact, I just finished the install and fixed a problem with one of the ABS sensors an hour ago. I just drove about 20 miles in the rain and the RLTC is amazing. Works like a charm and the car is MUCH safer in wet conditions. I can't wait until it dries up and I can start playing with the Launch Control...............will be a blast.
96m3SC 02-12-2007, 11:49 PM loving ur car man what a sleeper.!!!
kendogg 02-13-2007, 01:52 AM yeah, i overlooked the RLTC. with that, he certainly stands a chance of getting the jump and holding the lead for quite sometime beofre a 700+whp car overtakes him. a few high HP Supras out there are using RLTC quite successfully.
anyways, when i first saw your post i actually thought you really believed that apples vs apples, the 500whp BMW was gonna pull on a 700whp Supra. my mistake. come to think of it, that RLTC should give him an advantage over a fair amount of cars with higher HP...in the first half of the race anyways.
haha, nah, come on man, I'm not THAT naive, lol. As much as I LOVE E28's, and feel that they are one of the cars god have given upon to us himself, I do understand that there is faster out there. I really have no knowledge of supra's, I'm not sure how they pull over 100. I know when I had my E28 (88 535i, 3.73, chip, etc.), 4th was definitely my hardest pulling gear, from about 85-120-ish. 5th it started to lag, especially past 130. Seemed like it took forever for me to get from 130 to 145 when I finally gave up and let off. A Cd of .42 doesn't help these poor cars at all though, either.
Brad D. 02-13-2007, 05:54 AM hey Duke, click on the "everything you want to know about my car here" link in Brad's sig. i didn't see any dyno's right @ 700whp, but you can see that he made 545rwhp and 615rwhp @ 18psi and 25psi respectively on a 67mm turbo. one could probably push to 650rwhp on that particular turbo with even more aggressive tuning, but i think that's past the efficiency range for that turbo.
Correct on the old turbo I made 545rwhp on pump gas and 670rwhp on race gas. The new turbo made 611rwhp on pump gas and 811rwhp on race gas, very very conservative tuning, .81 exhaust housing, 31psi.
I'm not sure which exhaust housing we're talking about but I was also running a .68 on the GT67 for faster spool.
PukiCabuki 02-13-2007, 04:28 PM haha, nah, come on man, I'm not THAT naive, lol. As much as I LOVE E28's, and feel that they are one of the cars god have given upon to us himself, I do understand that there is faster out there. I really have no knowledge of supra's, I'm not sure how they pull over 100. I know when I had my E28 (88 535i, 3.73, chip, etc.), 4th was definitely my hardest pulling gear, from about 85-120-ish. 5th it started to lag, especially past 130. Seemed like it took forever for me to get from 130 to 145 when I finally gave up and let off. A Cd of .42 doesn't help these poor cars at all though, either.
As speeds increase Supras tend to get faster compared to other cars. They're kind of slow on the bottom end but monsters up top. Even stock my car pulls well all the way to 155 when it hits the cutoff. 3rd goes till 80 and 4th to 120. 5th has a ton of room left at 155 and still pulling.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-13-2007, 04:48 PM 31psi.
How in the hell do you keep head gasket integrity? I am still traumatized at my MLS HG failing about 1000 miles ago. I was running 20 psi regularly (without dyno tuning :nono ) with some unwanted spikes up to 24 psi. The coating on the MLS HG failed and boost was allowed to escape into the water jacket. I did use copper HG spray on the replacement HG though. I am just not willing to go above 20 psi and have to shell out the money and time for another HG replacement. I would love to know how you guys are doing it.
If I could run 31 psi, I am sure I would have huge numbers too. Of course my TO4E with a GT35R compressor will not support that kind of boost. Remember, I have 3.5L.
Brad D. 02-13-2007, 06:30 PM How in the hell do you keep head gasket integrity? I am still traumatized at my MLS HG failing about 1000 miles ago. I was running 20 psi regularly (without dyno tuning :nono ) with some unwanted spikes up to 24 psi. The coating on the MLS HG failed and boost was allowed to escape into the water jacket. I did use copper HG spray on the replacement HG though. I am just not willing to go above 20 psi and have to shell out the money and time for another HG replacement. I would love to know how you guys are doing it.
If I could run 31 psi, I am sure I would have huge numbers too. Of course my TO4E with a GT35R compressor will not support that kind of boost. Remember, I have 3.5L.
I run 35psi on the street all day on the stock head gasket with no issues, on 110/112 octane fuel. I would run more but my map sensor is the 35psi map sensor, so I just need to upgrade it before I crank it up.
Chalk it up to an amazing engine, that's all I can say about that. I think the 2JZ-GTE stock head gasket is one of the best head gaskets around.
RahgBag 02-13-2007, 06:43 PM Hey Brad, just a random question.
Did you ever own a BMW? If not, why are you here so much?
I'm not attacking, just wondering.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-13-2007, 07:02 PM on 110/112 octane fuel
There is my answer, thanks.
I think the 2JZ-GTE stock head gasket is one of the best head gaskets around.
I have been lurking on several Supra forums looking for the HG answer. I have read a lot about the stock head gasket failing. There are many posts about Mk. IV owners asking for advice on the HG replacement. Most go with a MLS aftermarket gasket. I am very surprised your OEM gasket still lives. It is most likely attributed to the race fuel you run.
PukiCabuki 02-13-2007, 07:09 PM Hey Brad, just a random question.
Did you ever own a BMW? If not, why are you here so much?
I'm not attacking, just wondering.
I believe he has owned more than one, including a turbo E36 M3 if I'm not mistaken. But I've been wrong before.
Brad D. 02-13-2007, 09:30 PM Hey Brad, just a random question.
Did you ever own a BMW? If not, why are you here so much?
I'm not attacking, just wondering.
Two of the nicest E36 M3's ever, one Turbo before anyone else was turbo, one N/A which I sold to buy my second Supra (the one I have now.)
Brad D. 02-13-2007, 09:35 PM There is my answer, thanks.
I have been lurking on several Supra forums looking for the HG answer. I have read a lot about the stock head gasket failing. There are many posts about Mk. IV owners asking for advice on the HG replacement. Most go with a MLS aftermarket gasket. I am very surprised your OEM gasket still lives. It is most likely attributed to the race fuel you run.
I'm not sure who you've been talking to but the stock headgasket rarely fails. No one I know runs an aftermarket headgasket if the stock one fails. I've hardly ever seen posts on Supraforums about failed headgaskets.
The only replacement MVP sells is the HKS metal headgasket which I don't know anyone who uses that thing. I'd imagine only the 40+psi guys go to that, like the GT47-88 guys.
PukiCabuki 02-13-2007, 09:50 PM I'm not sure who you've been talking to but the stock headgasket rarely fails. No one I know runs an aftermarket headgasket if the stock one fails. I've hardly ever seen posts on Supraforums about failed headgaskets.
The only replacement MVP sells is the HKS metal headgasket which I don't know anyone who uses that thing. I'd imagine only the 40+psi guys go to that, like the GT47-88 guys.
Maybe he was thinking of the MKIII guys...
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-13-2007, 11:54 PM Maybe he was thinking of the MKIII guys...
Could be, I'll have to go back and look at those posts. So, I need one of your HG's for my car. :D
Brewster 02-14-2007, 12:08 AM Maybe he was thinking of the MKIII guys...
hey hey hey, 7m guys. ;)
Brad D. 02-14-2007, 08:19 AM Could be, I'll have to go back and look at those posts. So, I need one of your HG's for my car. :D
Direct replacement bolt on would be nice huh? I think you're talking about 7M-GTE, because my friend Matt is always worried about blowing his in his MKIII.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-14-2007, 03:52 PM Just got a calibrated weight on the car.............3300 lbs. I guess the stereo equipment, A/C, fire suppression system, 17" wheels and tires, E31 Brembo Brakes, Turbo kit weigh a little more than I expected.
3300 is not bad though.
Brad D. 02-14-2007, 07:13 PM Just got a calibrated weight on the car.............3300 lbs. I guess the stereo equipment, A/C, fire suppression system, 17" wheels and tires, E31 Brembo Brakes, Turbo kit weigh a little more than I expected.
3300 is not bad though.
3300 with fuel?
I figured you were higher than you expected. All the misc. little items add up in the long run.
I am sitting in the 3300 pound range as well. I was 3389 with the stereo system, and stock turbos. Single turbo shaves about 40 pounds of weight along with misc other weigh reduction I've done (trac pump removal, rear seat hardware, cruise control motor, tow hooks, etc etc etc.) There's still one more 5 pound reduction in the glove box I can do as well.
Check this out, this is the coolest thing ever.
http://www.suprahardtopregistry.com/WeightReduction/car.php
jworms 02-14-2007, 07:41 PM Check this out, this is the coolest thing ever.
http://www.suprahardtopregistry.com/WeightReduction/car.php
OMG, how do we steal this and use it on here? :D
maybe that would deter most weight savings threads we get on a somewhat frequent basis.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-14-2007, 08:41 PM 3300 with fuel?
I figured you were higher than you expected. All the misc. little items add up in the long run.
I am sitting in the 3300 pound range as well. I was 3389 with the stereo system, and stock turbos. Single turbo shaves about 40 pounds of weight along with misc other weigh reduction I've done (trac pump removal, rear seat hardware, cruise control motor, tow hooks, etc etc etc.) There's still one more 5 pound reduction in the glove box I can do as well.
Check this out, this is the coolest thing ever.
http://www.suprahardtopregistry.com/WeightReduction/car.php
Yep, about a 1/2 a tank. Of course that is the OEM tank. I have mounted a Alpina auxiliary fuel tank in the trunk.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/269000-269999/269576_394_full.jpg
It holds another 40 liters of fuel when full (talk about bladder buster). Thats another 60 pounds over the rear wheels. I have not used it yet because I have a leak at the top of the OEM tank I need to fix.
That web page is very cool, wish we had one like it.
kendogg 02-14-2007, 09:55 PM Duke, what are you running for a stereo system? Looks like quite a clean install.
Also, I don't see the water tank for the A/W system, I thought that went between the wheel wells as well??
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-14-2007, 10:23 PM Duke, what are you running for a stereo system? Looks like quite a clean install.
Also, I don't see the water tank for the A/W system, I thought that went between the wheel wells as well??
Check my website for the stereo. You see the second generation install, it keeps getting better as I do.
The water tank for the A/W is my windshield washer tank. I use the blue 1$ a gallon 70/30 mix too. It is premixed and works like a charm. Sure is has some detergents in it but I bet that I have the cleanest engine around. Another great feature is that I get a light indication when I need more fluid. BMW must have know in 1985 what I was going to use that tank for :)
dmess 02-14-2007, 10:31 PM OMG sweet bimmer dude
kendogg 02-15-2007, 02:52 AM Check my website for the stereo. You see the second generation install, it keeps getting better as I do.
The water tank for the A/W is my windshield washer tank. I use the blue 1$ a gallon 70/30 mix too. It is premixed and works like a charm. Sure is has some detergents in it but I bet that I have the cleanest engine around. Another great feature is that I get a light indication when I need more fluid. BMW must have know in 1985 what I was going to use that tank for :)
Duke, I didn't mean the Aquamist system, I meant the A/W intercooler setup, where is the water tank for that? I thought TCD mounted that between the rear wheel wells.
DukeM535i/Turbo 02-15-2007, 08:57 AM Duke, I didn't mean the Aquamist system, I meant the A/W intercooler setup, where is the water tank for that? I thought TCD mounted that between the rear wheel wells.
That was a prototype tank TCD was going to use for drag racing.
Here is where mine is mounted.............I love the MTech kit.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/269000-269999/269576_265_full.jpg
Brad D. 02-15-2007, 03:22 PM Duke, amazing setup. I want to check it out in person LOL.
Deuuuce 02-15-2007, 04:49 PM NICE kill and write-up! I had a 94 Supra TT auto w/ 383rwhp, it was a great car.
However, your "RIP" kill list other than the Supra is VERY UNimpressive unless:
The 944 was a monster turbo, the 240/280Z was a V8 and the G35 was an Stillen SC.
We all have a lot of undistinguished kills too....
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