Yesterday afternoon on the 605 S before the 10 freeway, I notice a crotch rocket with really annoying nasty high pitch exhaust notes :confused (get a real pipe??) who attempts to look fast by going in an out of cars like a moron but only doing 80ish and decided to plant himself in front of me with that ugly sound. Then as the carpool lane opens up and he gets on it and proceed to ducks under windshield :eek: like he is doing 150+ showing off but in reality he was now going 85. So I decided to run up next to him on the fastlane and downshifted to fourth. He took the bait as I can see his headlights moved, but his crotchrocket wasnt leaving my rearview as I approached 140 and shifted to 5th.. needless to say, I put a buslenght on him by then and applied my brakes back to 85 and he did the crotchrocket flyby acknowledging the M with the slight movement of his helmet.

So as I have predicted, that guy on the bike was a poser and didnt really know how to ride. :rofl:

He may have been the poser, but you are definetley the idiot doing that and going 140 on 605S. You really proved something there. Lucky you did not kill him, yourself, or some innocent family.

What kind of bike has an annoying exhaust note?

Never race bikers...

He may have been the poser, but you are definetley the idiot doing that and going 140 on 605S. You really proved something there. Lucky you did not kill him, yourself, or some innocent family.

Were in the kill section.. right

Seems like I jumped into the politcal/war/peace forums.

There is kill, and then there is common sense.

There is kill, and then there is common sense.

I dont think street racing and "good judgement" go exactly hand in hand.

Everyone who does it on the street knows this to some extent, its no big suprise.

There is kill, and then there is common sense.

Common sense would seem to preclude most "kills," ideally, but clearly that isn't the case. You should expect as much when reading the Kill Stories forum.

He may have been the poser, but you are definetley the idiot doing that and going 140 on 605S. You really proved something there. Lucky you did not kill him, yourself, or some innocent family.

Before you start bashing me on street racing, I also used to ride so I do have the courtesy to make sure that the biker is safe. If you read correctly and if you know the area 605S before right before the 10Freeway, the carpool lane starts and thats when he hopped on to the carpool lane. And with him over in the carpool all by himself, I had a open lane for almost 1 mile down visually, and so does he, so I am not tailgating him or anything or trying to kill him. And no I dont street race all the time, and neither was I proving anything, I just figure since he thinks he is so badass, then lets see what he got and what his bike got.

BTW I notice you got a E55, so dont tell me you never go over 100 on it, if you got a E55, you should know it doesnt take long for me to reach 140 territory, so its not like I am doing 140 for over a 5 min interval dodging in and out of traffic.

What kind of bike has an annoying exhaust note?

I didnt pay attention, but I think it was a 600cc gsxr and due to his performance cant be anything over 750. His pipe had a high pitch tin can sound not the usual Yoshi pipe that sounds badass on the gsxrs. I had a V&H pipe on mine before and it was a deep loud low rumble, and my friends had Yoshis which also are deep and loud but never loud amd whinning high pitched, I had to bear with that for like 2 miles when he cut in front of me.

Nice kill. I can't wait to take a bike on at some point.




:rolleyes
He may have been the poser, but you are definetley the idiot doing that and going 140 on 605S. You really proved something there. Lucky you did not kill him, yourself, or some innocent family.

I don't street race, but it saddens me to learn that after all these years, I'm a poser because I too sometimes try to tuck behind my 1/4 faring (BMW R100S), at high speed. Take 80 mph winds from the "pecs" up for a while and you will too, if you have any sense.

I don't street race, but it saddens me to learn that after all these years, I'm a poser because I too sometimes try to tuck behind my 1/4 faring (BMW R100S), at high speed. Take 80 mph winds from the "pecs" up for a while and you will too, if you have any sense.

I normally also tuck but if only I had video of this guy, then you would know what I meant. Trust me, I dont normally judge bikers and give them the most respect because I know how it is. He was over exaggerating his movements to the point that I notice, you dont have to be dryhumpping your bike and fueltank at those speed. And yes I do have sense on when its needed, I have rode long distance to Vegas before on it, and yes bugs and rocks do hurt at triple digit speeds.

He may have been the poser, but you are definetley the idiot doing that and going 140 on 605S. You really proved something there. Lucky you did not kill him, yourself, or some innocent family.

you're not telling anyone anything new. I don't go to your road safety forum and argue with someone's story about how safely they drove today. The name of the section is kill stories- stories about illegal street racing. Unless your idea of that is racing someone from 30-35 in a 40, you should leave this area and keep your ideas to yourself.

Additionally, this is obviously not some kid who just got his license who doesn't have any idea what he's doing. The man has an m5.

nice kill....i miss the freeways of cali..i swear the 4 years i lived out there 40% of it was either on the 5, 134, 10, 110, 605, 405, da 210 i was all over so cali

Good kill!! Any mods done to the M?

.Additionally, this is obviously not some kid who just got his license who doesn't have any idea what he's doing. The man has an m5.

Thanks for the comments and yes I am not a kid but I do have to admit I sometimes do act like one because of the M5. The M tends to make me do evil things :D But really I am not saying I am Mr. know it all with a M, this was just a story from my everyday drive here in LA and the people you see on the public highways. But years of defensive driving and riding plus seeing your friend's bike flying off the crest do give me some sort of good judgement not to push it if the situation isnt right or safest possible to pull a 85-140 stunt.

nice kill....i miss the freeways of cali..i swear the 4 years i lived out there 40% of it was either on the 5, 134, 10, 110, 605, 405, da 210 i was all over so cali

You wont miss the freeways now hehe.... the traffic is unbearable... you only get very few chances to go fast now and I tend to capitalize on each one of them.

Good kill!! Any mods done to the M?

Bone stock for now, its still under warranty so not planning on anything untill its over.

I recall a recent magazine test of the fastest cars 0 to 100 and back, vettes and such, a 750 Kawasaki was tossed in for fun, the bike had reached 100 AND STOPPED before the quickest car reached 100 mph! K1200 Bob

Thanks for the comments and yes I am not a kid but I do have to admit I sometimes do act like one because of the M5. The M tends to make me do evil things :D But really I am not saying I am Mr. know it all with a M, this was just a story from my everyday drive here in LA and the people you see on the public highways. But years of defensive driving and riding plus seeing your friend's bike flying off the crest do give me some sort of good judgement not to push it if the situation isnt right or safest possible to pull a 85-140 stunt.



You wont miss the freeways now hehe.... the traffic is unbearable... you only get very few chances to go fast now and I tend to capitalize on each one of them.



Bone stock for now, its still under warranty so not planning on anything untill its over.

You don't need to apologize or make excuses to internet trolls over your spirited driving! Actually you better be prepared to drive very evil on saturday! No room for slowpokes at all.

Were in the kill section.. right

Seems like I jumped into the politcal/war/peace forums.

ya i vote dont come in here if you dont like these stories :shifty

I recall a recent magazine test of the fastest cars 0 to 100 and back, vettes and such, a 750 Kawasaki was tossed in for fun, the bike had reached 100 AND STOPPED before the quickest car reached 100 mph! K1200 Bob

No doubts, 750s and up you can easily reach 100 in 2-3 gears, so I think it must have been a 600 or he just downshifted one gear or he just chickened out at 130ish because I saw him let up after he couldnt gain ground on me.

You don't need to apologize or make excuses to internet trolls over your spirited driving! Actually you better be prepared to drive very evil on saturday! No room for slowpokes at all.

Oh oh this saturday hehe, well I guess I will use my judgement and see what happends, the wife is gonna be on board also:rolleyes I will try not to be too much of a party pooper for anyone hehe... I tend to push only when I feel comfortable, but that slight chance of rain worries me. Either way looking forward to meet you guys and check out your sweet SC ride that I read so much about on most of these bimmer boards. :alright

John

Congradulations on beating the worst rider on the planet. Because you surely didn't beat the bike.

A win is a win.

His pipe had a high pitch tin can sound not the usual Yoshi pipe that sounds badass on the gsxrs.


Chances are it was a two bros pipe on a 600cc. Those pipes tend to sound high pitched and somewhat annoying.

Congradulations on beating the worst rider on the planet. Because you surely didn't beat the bike.


In the OP's defense, I think he is fully aware of that fact. He mentioned that he used to ride so I'm sure he knows what sportbikes are capable of.

Chances are it was a two bros pipe on a 600cc. Those pipes tend to sound high pitched and somewhat annoying.

I dont know about all that. One of my friends has an I know two people with two brothers pipes, and one person with a yosh pipe. Both two brothers pipes are low pitch and so loud that they drowned out the sound of the guy with the yosh pipe.

One friend has a 03 R6 with two brothers, 06 GSXR 750 with Two Bros, and 06 GSXr 750 with yosh pipe. The new yosh pipes dont sound like they used to.

I dont know about all that. One of my friends has an I know two people with two brothers pipes, and one person with a yosh pipe. Both two brothers pipes are low pitch and so loud that they drowned out the sound of the guy with the yosh pipe.

One friend has a 03 R6 with two brothers, 06 GSXR 750 with Two Bros, and 06 GSXr 750 with yosh pipe. The new yosh pipes dont sound like they used to.

I stand corrected. What I meant to say was that it was probably a D & D pipe. I got the 2 mixed up.

Hmmm....even if it was a 600 it would've smoked you. Maybe he wasn't racing? Some bikes can go from 0-100 then back to 0 in 10 seconds. ie: gsxr1000.

Maybe it was a buell blast:eek:

or a ducati...can't believe people buy these things:shifty

You can take 600s at highway speeds easily. I have in my M especially 100-140 its easy.

You can take 600s at highway speeds easily. I have in my M especially 100-140 its easy.

Really?? In a stock M w/ no FI?

You can take 600s at highway speeds easily. I have in my M especially 100-140 its easy.

Maybe a 600 that was made in the 80's.

You don't really want us to believe that you beat a bike that runs high 10's at 125mph. I mean thats only a tad over 2 seconds faster than you're car and 20mph faster. You aren't pulling on a modern 600 with anything less than 700whp at the weght of your car.

Wow, there are some people posting in here that have no idea what they are talking about.

Either the OP raced an 80s crotch rocket or he beat the rider...NOT the bike. And I am pretty sure the OP is aware of this considering he used to be a rider.

Just some food for thought...I have a 87' CBR600 Hurricane....the typical old school 600cc sport bike. Stock for stock...it has a better Hp/weight ratio than a C6 Z06 ....And that's a 20 year old bike (you also have to factor in aerodynamics, bikes aren't the greatest with this). Now compare that to newer 600s which will absolutely BLOW AWAY older bikes.

Unless you have some serious hp, your not beating a 600cc+ bike. If anything, your beating the rider.

And that comment about Ducatis and why people still buy them... You've obviously never ridden one. Gixxer1000s or any 1000s at that scare the crap out of me whenever I get on them. Ducatis, per displacement, may not be as fast in a strait line (ex: 999r), but the pure, all-around riding pleasure you get from riding one is better than any Japanese bike I have ever ridden. Give me the choice between a R1 and a 999r....and I'll take the 999r over the rice any day.

Just to clarify the post, I believe I beat the rider who thinks he is a badass but really didnt know how to ride the bike to its limits or dares to put it down when his intentional tucking is really needed.

He was racing me because I can hear his exhaust note went up plus his lights moved indicating a downshift in gear selection, and I even checked to see if he was still with me at 110 and he was, so I know I wasnt racing by myself. I used to ride a 94 GSXR 750 jetted and full pipes, so I know when someone is baited or not, as I always used to get baited by guys in 911TTs because they thought I was reving at them at the stoplight. I have taken my gsxr to 160+ territory on the 110 and the crest before, but I can tell you this, not everyone will have the balls to put it down when its needed. I do know its not a 20 year old 600 because it has LED tail, which has to be pretty current post 02 I am thinking.

So the cliffnote of this story is, not everyone on a sportsbike is god and sometimes looks pretty silly to another person that has previous riding experiences. And in LA, we are such a trend following culture that its actually fun to be able to pick out the people who just wants a bike because they wana look cool but cant lay down when being challenged. I really wasnt expecting to beat his bike, but I had a good feeling that I would beat the rider. Besides, it was a damm straight line.. I guess he just didnt know his bike well enough yet, the only problem when going that fast would be tankslaps but thats during accelerations only when it happened to me.

And that comment about Ducatis and why people still buy them... You've obviously never ridden one. Gixxer1000s or any 1000s at that scare the crap out of me whenever I get on them. Ducatis, per displacement, may not be as fast in a strait line (ex: 999r), but the pure, all-around riding pleasure you get from riding one is better than any Japanese bike I have ever ridden. Give me the choice between a R1 and a 999r....and I'll take the 999r over the rice any day.

Totally agree here. I bought my Ducati because it WASN'T a Honda, Suzuki, or Kawasaki. I really like those bikes and yes they're a hell of a lot faster than my poor old Supersport, but they're also dime a dozen. I've only ever seen one other SS on the road.

By the way, the new 1098 should shrink the gap between pasta and rice....

And that comment about Ducatis and why people still buy them... You've obviously never ridden one. Gixxer1000s or any 1000s at that scare the crap out of me whenever I get on them. Ducatis, per displacement, may not be as fast in a strait line (ex: 999r), but the pure, all-around riding pleasure you get from riding one is better than any Japanese bike I have ever ridden. Give me the choice between a R1 and a 999r....and I'll take the 999r over the rice any day.
Ok, I'm not even going to get into an argument here because so it's obvious that you pick your choices based on looks, which is ok, but here, this topic was started for performance, a car beating a bike, this is a performance thread not a looks thread, and that is why my comment about the ducati was implied...dont get me wrong, there is nothing sexier than the floating swing arm on the ducatis, but their performance is so poor that it just makes no sense to me in investing 20K+ in something that you can't take it up to the 8K "ricer"...but of course, it all comes down to ones' personal likings, which in most cases differ from someone elses'...anyways, it was a good kill no matter what

First off my car isnt stock, its lightly modded. Secondly I personally ride why look at my sig. Yes bikes are fast but they tend to be faster in 1st gear. At 80mph most guys will stick it 3rd and go from there. I know my personal bike 1st gear goes to 100mph so being in 3rd really hurts them. Plus 600s start to die pretty rapidly around 120mph. I know my liter bike is good till about 150ish when it starts to die. I watched two friends go at it in a Mustang GT supercharged that was putting down 390whp 450tq and a CBR600 stock and they did runs from a dig and the bike would get away about 2 car lengths right off the bat. When they roll raced from 60 the mustang would put a car length on him right away and then creep very very slowly away. Another thing is you need to take rider size into consideration. Some of these guys on bikes are 225lbs and up. Thats just detremental to a bikes performance. Its like tossing 500lbs in a car.

fun fun, ill be in the market for a bike in march, something low cost, and easy, itll be my first

hey nicegsxr u go to sfsu? i think i've seen ur 528i there

hey nicegsxr u go to sfsu? i think i've seen ur 528i there

Nope I am in LA not the bay area, but hey who knows maybe my 528i got a twin :D :redspot

Ok, I'm not even going to get into an argument here because so it's obvious that you pick your choices based on looks, which is ok, but here, this topic was started for performance, a car beating a bike, this is a performance thread not a looks thread, and that is why my comment about the ducati was implied...dont get me wrong, there is nothing sexier than the floating swing arm on the ducatis, but their performance is so poor that it just makes no sense to me in investing 20K+ in something that you can't take it up to the 8K "ricer"...but of course, it all comes down to ones' personal likings, which in most cases differ from someone elses'...anyways, it was a good kill no matter what

Exactly, its all a matter of choice. I have a customized Fatboy that's as slow as hell, and don't feel bad that an old lady in a Yugo can beat it. Its all what you like. Its slow, but the sound is hypnotizing.

You can beat the rider on a 600cc at highway speeds easily if the rider isn't skilled and starts in the wrong gear. I have in my M especially 100-140 its easy.

I corrected it for you.

In the end, you're not beating the bike, just the rider. The bike itself is more than capable of smoking any N/A E46 M3.

Ok, I'm not even going to get into an argument here because so it's obvious that you pick your choices based on looks, which is ok, but here, this topic was started for performance, a car beating a bike, this is a performance thread not a looks thread, and that is why my comment about the ducati was implied...dont get me wrong, there is nothing sexier than the floating swing arm on the ducatis, but their performance is so poor that it just makes no sense to me in investing 20K+ in something that you can't take it up to the 8K "ricer"...but of course, it all comes down to ones' personal likings, which in most cases differ from someone elses'...anyways, it was a good kill no matter what


First off, you comment didnt just imply about strait line performance. You simply stated that you had no idea why people bought ducatis anymore. That is what i replied to. That is very vague. You need to me more specific next time. On that note, I dont choose ducatis for their looks. I choose ducatis for the enjoyment of the ride. I like how they are skinny and super easy to toss around. Once again, in a strait line, slower than most I4 bikes per cc. But I am MUCH faster through the twisties on a Duc than i am on any gsxr. Hence why I like them. And besides, twisting the throttle is still fun:stickoutt

But you bring up the most valid point at the end, yes, its personal likings. I guess in the end, thats all that mattars.

First off my car isnt stock, its lightly modded. Secondly I personally ride why look at my sig. Yes bikes are fast but they tend to be faster in 1st gear. At 80mph most guys will stick it 3rd and go from there. I know my personal bike 1st gear goes to 100mph so being in 3rd really hurts them. Plus 600s start to die pretty rapidly around 120mph. I know my liter bike is good till about 150ish when it starts to die. I watched two friends go at it in a Mustang GT supercharged that was putting down 390whp 450tq and a CBR600 stock and they did runs from a dig and the bike would get away about 2 car lengths right off the bat. When they roll raced from 60 the mustang would put a car length on him right away and then creep very very slowly away. Another thing is you need to take rider size into consideration. Some of these guys on bikes are 225lbs and up. Thats just detremental to a bikes performance. Its like tossing 500lbs in a car.


Yes, the rider weight is a big consideration. And I do agree that 600s start slowing down after 120mph.....But they dont just stop accelerating. They still have enough power to beat almost any N/A M anywhere under 150mph. I weight 185lbs and when im on a cbr600rr, I can still take my buddies e36 m3 (or any one at that) with bolt ons to 150mph by a couple lenghts.

390whp is quite a bit of power. But its pretty obvious that the rider of the 600 the mustang raced couldnt ride for shit. Any modern 600 (ex: 600rr) with a COMPETENT rider should put 4+ car lenghts on that mustang from a dig if he can launch well. A modern 600 is worth low 11s in the 1/4 with a decient rider. You need quite a bit more than 390whp in a mustang to reach low 11s.

From a 60mph roll, the bike should jump at least 2 car lengths and, at the very least, holt it to 130mph. Then the mustang will slowly start to reel the bike in and maybe at some point after 150, the stang will catch up.

go onto streetfire or youtube. Watch some car vs. bike vids. See for yourself. Theres one, I thinks its a houston video, a cobra with bolt ons races a R6 from a roll (not sure on start speed). Im guessing they went to around 130ish mph...the mustang never gained an inch. And it seems like hes a pretty competent driver.

Here are a couple. there are just the first ones I came across when i looked:

Mustang cobra vs gsxr600 http://youtube.com/watch?v=TByT3DZodA8

Supercharged mustang vs R6 http://youtube.com/watch?v=4C_fhY-msfs

Nope I am in LA not the bay area, but hey who knows maybe my 528i got a twin :D :redspot
they look exactly the same with the same drop. but it has m5 rims.

I guess he just didnt know his bike well enough yet, the only problem when going that fast would be tankslaps

If you were were in traffic he probably didn't want to really run with you. 4 wheel braking> two. I'd much rather be in a car than a bike at high speed.

If you were were in traffic he probably didn't want to really run with you. 4 wheel braking> two. I'd much rather be in a car than a bike at high speed.

OMG, no dude, no traffic - carpool lane in LA = no one on it because everyone drives 1 person per car here... I had a open lane on the fast for 1 mile or so down.

For the last time, its my story, believe or not believe it will be up to you... read it for what its worth, my own account - or people can just read it as entertainment. I have posted a few Kill stories here, and not all of them are me beating someone else, so there is really no purpose for me to bullshit anyone. I personally go on boards alot and enjoy alot of reading from kills to techy stuff, so when I post here, I am just giving back to the community that been good to me while I am working. I am not looking for anything else nor am I trying to proof anything to anyone.

But I aint no dummy that races by myself if thats what you kept trying to imply. I know when someone is putting it down or when someone isnt.

For the final time, I am done trying to defend the story and my actions. :rolleyes (rant over)

Here is links to some truely insane supercar vs R1 video non tracked - enjoy
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/751055
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/527033


John

Ok, I'm not even going to get into an argument here because so it's obvious that you pick your choices based on looks, which is ok, but here, this topic was started for performance, a car beating a bike, this is a performance thread not a looks thread, and that is why my comment about the ducati was implied...dont get me wrong, there is nothing sexier than the floating swing arm on the ducatis, but their performance is so poor that it just makes no sense to me in investing 20K+ in something that you can't take it up to the 8K "ricer"...but of course, it all comes down to ones' personal likings, which in most cases differ from someone elses'...anyways, it was a good kill no matter what

Here we go...........I had a CBR600 and 900RR before I got my Ducati. The Jap bikes felt like junk compared to the Ducati. The handling is so much more secure feeling. One can toss the bike around with confidence. The Jap bikes vibrated so much it was rediculous. On a windy road I will run away from most Jap bikes. The Ducati is a quality piece.....with looks! Period.....end of story........

btw......nice kill........he probably had to go change his diaper after that run! Be safe.....

LOL that was an all motor cobra not a 03/04 cobra. My friends mustang ran 12 flats and sometimes broke into the 11s. He rode around drag radials all the time and GTs weigh less than cobras and he was putting down more than cobras but a large amount. And stock cobras hit mid 12s out the box, 03/04s that is.

You can take 600s at highway speeds easily. I have in my M especially 100-140 its easy.

I love it when people brag about bikes, because you'd get OWNED by a modern 600cc bike. It wouldn't even be close.

You're telling me a brand new 600cc R1 smoked by buddies 520rwhp Supra on a roll and you beat em because you in your stock or otherwise M3 can beat em. LOL.:nono

Yeah right.

Welcome to a 1985 600cc bike, other than that you cannot beat a modern bike, 600+ period.

I love it when people brag about bikes, because you'd get OWNED by a modern 600cc bike. It wouldn't even be close.

You're telling me a brand new 600cc R1 smoked by buddies 520rwhp Supra on a roll and you beat em because you in your stock or otherwise M3 can beat em. LOL.:nono

Yeah right.

Welcome to a 1985 600cc bike, other than that you cannot beat a modern bike, 600+ period.


Uhm all I have to say is 600cc R1? lol

Here we go...........I had a CBR600 and 900RR before I got my Ducati. The Jap bikes felt like junk compared to the Ducati. The handling is so much more secure feeling. One can toss the bike around with confidence. The Jap bikes vibrated so much it was rediculous. On a windy road I will run away from most Jap bikes. The Ducati is a quality piece.....with looks! Period.....end of story........

btw......nice kill........he probably had to go change his diaper after that run! Be safe.....

The jap bikes felt like junk? :rolleyes Sounds like a case of personal preference to me. I like ducati's and all, but the riding position on a 748 feels like crap compared to a R6. But, guess what, thats just my personal opinion. As far as vibration goes, are you trying to tell me that a ducati with a V-Twin vibrates less than a I-4??? Umm yeah.... :rolleyes Nice try.

On a windy road I will run away from most unskilled riders that happen to be riding japanese bikes.

Corrected it for you. No thanks needed.

Well from 25 years of riding bikes, I will tell you its pretty hard to launch a litre bike really hard on the street, so the mid 10 second pass is very unlikely.

Now about the Ducati, we have a very nice 30 mile twisty road near my house, i've ridden it 100's of times. Well I was riding my wifes monster 620ie and ran a 06 R6 with a less experienced rider, I smoked his ass. In fact I played with him until I saw he started to ride over his head then I pulled off.
Now the R6 is WAY WAY faster than the 620, but its all rider in the twisties.

I have ridden/owned 40+ bikes and the 999r is the best I have ridden,period.

Now from a roll, its a different story. My gt2 has 611 RWHP and it would be hard pressed to take a litrebike from 60-120.

I love it when people brag about bikes, because you'd get OWNED by a modern 600cc bike. It wouldn't even be close.

You're telling me a brand new 600cc R1 smoked by buddies 520rwhp Supra on a roll and you beat em because you in your stock or otherwise M3 can beat em. LOL.:nono

Yeah right.

Welcome to a 1985 600cc bike, other than that you cannot beat a modern bike, 600+ period.
Just to let you know this might have just been a typo but an R1 is a 1000cc's not 600cc's that would be an R6 the R6's are faster around a track b/c they are lighter but the R1 would beat it in a strait line Hands down
Edit : On a second thought i wana say good kill its obvious that he really didnt know how to ride and i think the M's are just bad-ass but any ways good kill.

but its all rider in the twisties.

This is so true, I hate to admit it but on one of my excursions on the crest in the past, I got smoked by a chick riding a 600cbr down the mountain - reason I knew it was a chick was when we were up top at the cafe, my friends were stunned to see chicks on up the crest. :D That moment when I let the 600cc pass and realizing it was the chick up at the cafe was priceless, I never belittle a 600cc with a awesome rider up the crest anymore after that incident :stickoutt

I was on my GSXR750 btw ... not the M5

as a street bike rider im gonna put my 2 cents in. i hate it when cars come up to me and try to race because the reality is, on my average day riding , im not gonna come across a car that will beat my 06 cbr 600rr. so i really think that that rider didnt know what he was doing but like they say a win is a win. on the flip side of that tho, how would you feel if that rider crashed while you were racing him because he was going way to fast for the street because he was tryin to beat you, in a race that you instigated also..... something to think about. this is why i hate bikes racing cars on the street. thats what the track is for.

If we thought too much about most things that can happen, the truth is then you will end up not doing anything at all. We all know thats what the track is for, but this is human nature, when you are on a bike you should be commited, you either do it or not do it. I didn't hold a gun to his head to race me, he could've kept his head down doing 85 on his own in the carpool lane while I speed away.

[QUOTE=nicegsxr;8678867]If we thought too much about most things that can happen, the truth is then you will end up not doing anything at all.


Well said, very, very true...... oh, I might wreck, oh,she might get pregnant,I might fall off this rock face, my chute might not open, the buffalo might charge and my gun could misfire, my friends might see me doing this......yadda,yadda,yadda.........:cool :cool

Well said, very, very true...... oh, I might wreck, oh,she might get pregnant,I might fall off this rock face, my chute might not open, the buffalo might charge and my gun could misfire, my friends might see me doing this......yadda,yadda,yadda.........:cool :cool

Lol, I love your examples :D :alright and nice GT2 btw.. gotta love them :lol I am hoping to get a TT in a few.

1000cc's not 600cc's that would be an R6 the R6's are faster around a track b/c they are lighter but the R1 would beat it in a strait line Hands down

An R1 will outrun an R6 on the track. The fastest riders have 1000cc bikes. there is usually a 2 second gap between the two.

Ok, I guess I will agree it comes down to preference when it comes to ducatis vs. jap bikes. I like Ducatis, you like Gixxers. I agree, there's nothing else to say.

BUT

Bikes vs cars...A 600+cc bike is not going to loose to a car with any less than 500whp (unless its a very light car). I said it before and I'll say it again, without some serious hp, your not beating a modern 600+cc bike...your beating the rider. And pretty much anyone who knows something about bikes will agree.

Just for sh!ts and giggles:

2005 GSXR600: 355lbs(unloaded)/126hp (stock, factory specs from suzuki cycles) = 2.81lbs per hp

1995 M3: 3175lbs(unloaded)/240hp (stock, factory specs from owners manual) = 13.22lbs per hp.


2.81/1 > 13.22/1

Lets make it interesting....lets give the M3 *500hp*. 3175lbs/500hp = 6.35lbs/hp


Yeah...2.81:1 is still SIGNIFICANTLY better than 6.35:1


So egyptntree, please explain to me again how your e36 M3 with bolt ons is faster than a 600cc sport bike.

Put a 225lb rider into the equation

Put a 225lb rider into the equation

Regardless....you are living in a dillusional world if you think that a N/A E46 M is gonna outrun a modern day 600 sportbike. It's been said many times before, but it appears that you need to hear it again. YOU BEAT THE RIDER, NOT THE BIKE!