Please sign the following petition we don't need front plates and we are all probably getting sick and tired of this stupid law.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?caplate&16901

not gonna happen

We can at least try. People said Gray Davis being recalled wasn't gonna happen, etc. This is CA, we use initiatives in the end the people decide the law before the state legislators.

16991 Signatures Total
Now 16992 :)

well, i signed it anyways. but in reality, they need someone more articulate to write that petition. it doesn't really make a good case for the petition.

Thanks for the link!
In ten years of owning my E36, I have received one ticket for no front plate. It cost me a whopping 365.00 and a tow to the yard for not paying and fixing the problem before the due date. Considering I didn't live in the city where I received the ticket, I just plain old forgot I had received it. We or at least I don't care about that sh*t in the "OC" but in LA, it just gives the "man" another reason to pull you over and harazz your azz. I will continue to drive without a front plate until I buy a car that comes equipped with the proper fittings for a front plate. It's funny how the state considers any alterations of a vehicle from its om form to be deemed illegal, yet almost every car has some sort of aftermarket accessory on it and higher end vehicles don't come with holes in their front bumpers for a plate. If the state is really serious about this law and the enforcement of it, start with the manufacturers and require them to make cars that are equipped with the proper fittings, or pay everyone who needs to drill holes in their brand new cars to abide by their ridiculous and for the most part useless laws.

they cant even read that plate when moving why the fuck does it need to be there, signed.

I signed another one before...is this the same one?

Agreed, front plates FTL. FTMFL.

I thought this was a gag thread. Meh. I thought I already signed one of these too. All well. Here goes another.

Yeah but what about that electric car... they supported that at first and then they crushed all that shit. CARB ftmfl. woa....way off topic. :fartman

Yeah but what about that electric car... they supported that at first and then they crushed all that shit. CARB ftmfl. woa....way off topic. :fartman

I guess leaving the billions of dollars worth of fossil fuel left in the Earth just wouldn't be as fun as electric cars...

i have no front plate, i never will, it cleans the car up times 100000x. yet, i think they should still enforce this law, i have received numerous fixittickets for this same issue, and each time i just zip tie my plate on, get it checked off, and take the plate right back off. the reason in CA why they are necessary is because the way the red light cameras are set up. with no front plate, you can virtually blow any red light and never get in trouble with a camera. i am constantly looking at cars and noticing the ones with no front plates are always the coolest types of drivers in general. they have an "attitude" that is separate from society's. the "tuners" and "drivers" (not your average commuter) are the ones who go out of their way to remove the license plate. the only "commuters" that have no front plate are because the car did not come with one. if there were no front plate law, it would be harder to pick out the "drivers" from the ordinary "commuters".

Red Light camera's don't take a shot from the front and rear? They could easily reprogram them to do that.

Red Light camera's don't take a shot from the front and rear? They could easily reprogram them to do that.

... the reason in CA why they are necessary is because the way the red light cameras are set up. with no front plate, you can virtually blow any red light and never get in trouble with a camera....

Actually, that's not true. My wife just had to deal with these red light cameras. they take photos from both front and rear.

17001 Signatures Total :buttrock

At first I thought that the 17000 thing was an estimation for such an even number...

Please sign the following petition we don't need front plates and we are all probably getting sick and tired of this stupid law.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?caplate&16901

I applaud your effort man but lets be realistic. We live in what is almost a police state. The biggest reason for having a law like that is because it gives the cops a chance to walk up to you and see what's going on. Basically a free pass to pull you over and work you just in case you might have something to hide.

On top of that its Cali, they will never understand that if they laxed a little on these laws, they would get such a booming motorsports industry that it would skyrocket what already exists here.

BTW, you seem to have the same commute I do, you still live in Glendale or Riverside? Or do you go to school here?

I do wish they didnt have this law.. but sadly, if you consider this.. people get followed by suspicious vehicles. How do you report the vehicle behind you? They want to have that law to make sure your car is identifiable (is that a word? :shifty) at all times.

I highly doubt it will work, but since I dont like front plates anyways.. Ill sign it.

I do wish they didnt have this law.. but sadly, if you consider this.. people get followed by suspicious vehicles. How do you report the vehicle behind you? They want to have that law to make sure your car is identifiable (is that a word? :shifty) at all times.

I highly doubt it will work, but since I dont like front plates anyways.. Ill sign it.

After living in a state that doesn't require front plates (PA), I am glad that I now live in a state that does. I do get followed home from time to time, and I'd like to be able to identify the person's liscence plate frame in my rear view mirror.

i have no front plate, i never will, it cleans the car up times 100000x. yet, i think they should still enforce this law, i have received numerous fixittickets for this same issue, and each time i just zip tie my plate on, get it checked off, and take the plate right back off. the reason in CA why they are necessary is because the way the red light cameras are set up. with no front plate, you can virtually blow any red light and never get in trouble with a camera. i am constantly looking at cars and noticing the ones with no front plates are always the coolest types of drivers in general. they have an "attitude" that is separate from society's. the "tuners" and "drivers" (not your average commuter) are the ones who go out of their way to remove the license plate. the only "commuters" that have no front plate are because the car did not come with one. if there were no front plate law, it would be harder to pick out the "drivers" from the ordinary "commuters".


Hasn't the front plate law been a law WAY before red light cameras existed?

signed for the hell of it.

Actually, that's not true. My wife just had to deal with these red light cameras. they take photos from both front and rear.
Yeah, but to really be good evidence, they need to have your plate number and your face in the same photo.

Given how much revenue cities derive from tickets, including the red light tickets, there is no way for this initiative to get passed. Good luck though.

good luck

BTW, you seem to have the same commute I do, you still live in Glendale or Riverside? Or do you go to school here?

I go to Glendale on Friday-Sunday
Come back to Riverside Sunday Nights through Friday afternoon for school. The M3's at home though.

Signed.

Check it out.
Here's a list of states that don't require front plates 19 of em:

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and West Virginia; U.S. territories Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and Guam also do not require an official front license plate.
In Nevada, front plates are optional if the vehicle was not designed for a front plate and the manufacturer did not provide an add-on bracket or other means of displaying the front plate.

Now here's a list of states that use Red Light technology:
Arizona, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Texas, Virginia, Washington State, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.

Bolded states are states that have red light cameras in place but don't require front plates.

signed

Good luck with your endeavors. Ya that front Licensce plate is totally useless and half cars dont have them anyway. I guess there useful for crime scene though if you only see the front of the car.

You must love Rage Against The Machine.

17029 sigs.

signed earlier today

last time I saw a yellow light I got paranoid so I lowered my sun visor to cover my face from where the camera angle would be.

Fuck that sht

Signed....
#17037

On my ride home today I got a ticket for no front plate. Motorcycle cop flipped a bitch just to get me. So stupid!

F**K the front plate law, I've been pulled over so many times for front plate. Cops always tell me the same BS, "You were speeding (I wasn't) but I'll let you off with a warning and a plate ticket":mad ...

F**K the front plate law, I've been pulled over so many times for front plate. Cops always tell me the same BS, "You were speeding (I wasn't) but I'll let you off with a warning and a plate ticket":mad ...

I'd pull you over so I could look your car over. :dunno

I'd pull you over so I could look your car over. :dunno

Nathan's car is well worth the time to be pulled over and looked over well...

LOL, Thanks guys...
I guess that explains the damn ticket I got 2 days ago:rolleyes

good luck with it! the tint law is the law that needs to be changed also. we should be allowed to have at least 35% on the front sides.

FCUK BERKELEY POLICE!!!

my first and only "no front plate ticket" came from Berkeley by a PARKING ENFORCEMENT when my car was PARKED at 930AM (they dont start ticketing until 10am for time limit)...every other time i've been pulled (santa clara county sheriff, CHP) over I was always let go after a friendly reminder

We can at least try. People said Gray Davis being recalled wasn't gonna happen, etc. This is CA, we use initiatives in the end the people decide the law before the state legislators.

Until the state legislature overules us because obviously normal people can't make rational decisions. :shifty

i love this idea! i signed.

I know front plates are ugly i dont have one, but i also know if i hit a pedestrian i would stop.
Some people dont and if they dont have the front plate, The front of the car is all you usually see when your getting hit by a car. Then all you can really say is, it was a honda that was black with a loud exhaust and they left shards of fiberglass from their riced out front bumper in my flesh. :mad

I got pulled over last week for speeding the cop complimented my car and didnt mention my front plate. 52 in a 35

i think having the front plate looks retarded ... even tho i have never goten a ticket for it .. cops just use it as an excuse to pull me over ... and i cant stand it ... i hat the way it looks and its not needed .. go back east they dont have them ... im all for it .. signed

Until the state legislature overules us because obviously normal people can't make rational decisions. :shifty

This is CA my boy, they can't overrule is only the supreme court could strike down a law if its unconstitutional.

we're gonna need a lot more signatures ... i think i signed it when it was in the thousands. but i'll sign it again just in case.

bump

good luck

x 5 gazillion hahaha.

front plates ftl!!! everyone should sign this!!

I'll sign even though I never have been harassed for having no plate.

oh i signed fo sho

can we start one of these for tint laws?

Never hurts to try. I am so completely for this because I think all cops are completely corrupt and this stupid plate law just enables these horrible people to be even worse.

I concur.

signed, btw, do these online petitions work? just curious...

yeah, I just got busted the other night for no plate :( Now my car is ugly again.

signed hope this passes