anyone interested in putting together a dyno day here in the next month or so? I have decided to keep my car and im going to be throwing 3.5 hfm, injectors and chip on in a week or 2 and wanted to get a new dyno .... so hit me up if you are interested and we will start planning somewhere/some time ... if not ill go solo :shifty

anyone interested in putting together a dyno day here in the next month or so? I have decided to keep my car and im going to be throwing 3.5 hfm, injectors and chip on in a week or 2 and wanted to get a new dyno .... so hit me up if you are interested and we will start planning somewhere/some time ... if not ill go solo :shifty

if u wait till march I am down. I am waiting for my new tune right now!

if u wait till march I am down. I am waiting for my new tune right now!


march sounds good to me too... im going to hawaii the last week in feb ...:buttrock so we will plan sometime in march

I may be down if it's in March.

I know you guys usually head to us at CarbConn or Blood Ent. for dynos. Just an FYI, our dyno is going to be down for about 3 weeks starting the 31st of January. We should easily be up and running by March if you decide to come to CarbConn. I'll be making an official announcement on the significant upgrade we're installing. Very exciting. More to follow.

I know you guys usually head to us at CarbConn or Blood Ent. for dynos. Just an FYI, our dyno is going to be down for about 3 weeks starting the 31st of January. We should easily be up and running by March if you decide to come to CarbConn. I'll be making an official announcement on the significant upgrade we're installing. Very exciting. More to follow.

I was actually thinking about calling ^john up to schedule a dyno day somtime in March peferbly the 17th or 24th...I have some interest from my buddies with TT 300ZX's and a few others... altough place like kito with awd is good for everyone but i have feeling that maybe what carbconn is doin :)

I'm interested, just hoping we could do it some where closer to Portland area people.

Im Planning on having a Dyno Day early March I will keep everyone posted~

sweet, that would be perfect! I really wanna see what the new motor is putting down.

why cant everyone meet in seattle.... i have to drive 2.5 hrs from the north ... plus it would be a great get together on a sat ... all you portland guys get together and drive up all of us nor wa guys will drive down and meet in seattle

Theoretically we could, I just don't need to drive 300+ miles and spend 2 tanks of gas, to find out my cars dyno graph. I'll wait till march and do it locally.

count me in if you set it up at carb connection!

i might be interested if its somewhat local

I'm down for March. But only if it's at CarbConn... cuz that's where I've done my previous dynos and I want to have consistent readings/comparisons.

I'm down for March. But only if it's at CarbConn... cuz that's where I've done my previous dynos and I want to have consistent readings/comparisons.

Yeah, I say we ask John to set a date at CarbConn for March 17th...Only place im trying to dyno also...sound good?

Yeah, I say we ask John to set a date at CarbConn for March 17th...Only place im trying to dyno also...sound good?


sounds good to me :)

1bad M3. We used to go to this tuner shop in Bellingham that charges 60 for 3 dynos with AFR readouts. If you can get together 2-3 people they can probably do it for same price. LMK.

Carb conn ftw-- youll get a bigger turnout

I hope Carb Connection's upgrades include the ability to graph turbo wastegate activity. That's the only additional thing I want on my readouts from there!

F40?

I know you guys usually head to us at CarbConn or Blood Ent. for dynos. Just an FYI, our dyno is going to be down for about 3 weeks starting the 31st of January. We should easily be up and running by March if you decide to come to CarbConn. I'll be making an official announcement on the significant upgrade we're installing. Very exciting. More to follow.
Hey John and everyone,

I was actually going to be posting a new Monthly Dyno Day session for the first week or so of March anyways. I'll get on the horn with John tomorrow and see if we can reserve one of the first available days once their dyno is up. We haven't been to Blood Ent for over a year....there just hasn't been any interest in going to a different type of dyno and heading South - more people are closer to Kirkland than Auburn. :dunno

If you guys want to do it mid-March instead than we can do that too.

I hope Carb Connection's upgrades include the ability to graph turbo wastegate activity. That's the only additional thing I want on my readouts from there!
Steve,

Which one of your insane cars will you bring? :D

well im only avialable march 17th, ill talk to john to set somthing up if you guys are planning on it doing this earlyr

well im only avialable march 17th, ill talk to john to set somthing up if you guys are planning on it doing this earlyr
I'm sure March 17th will work just fine. :thumbup:

I'm sure March 17th will work just fine. :thumbup:

Sweet sounds good!

:( seems like i'm out... cuz umnitza doesn't have their shit together and is not gonna ship my exhaust until mid-march... it was supposed to ship in the end of january... so don't count me in for march. if there's a dyno day in april though, i'll be there.

ghey

Hey guys I spoke with John yesterday. Whoever said that a VW group grabbed the 17th was right; the 17th is not available (unless you guys want to join the Dubbers - I can go on Vortex and find out). He tentatively scheduled us for the 24th. Will that work for everyone? Sorry formulaemulatio... 17th was already taken. John doesn't feel comfortable doing the 10th; the upgrades might be done yet (MAJOR upgrades being done... I'm talkin' major demo and install). I know the 'secret' upgrades being done too! ;) So, it's either the 24th or the 31st.

thats so far away .... i might just go on my own now ... :\ and i got all my parts in last week and will be installing this week

well im home the 16th-24th... at least I think I am lol... So that works... Be cool to join up with Vw's but thats all depending on how many cars go...

. John doesn't feel comfortable doing the 10th; the upgrades might be done yet (MAJOR upgrades being done... I'm talkin' major demo and install). I know the 'secret' upgrades being done too! ;) So, it's either the 24th or the 31st.


Well It's not really a secret. We've been telling people why the dyno is out of comission for weeks now. Most of you have probably guessed. We are installing the latest all wheel drive eddy current power absorbtion 424xLC Dynojet. It's fully optioned all the data aquisition capabalities available. This will now make tuning that much more accurate.:redspot if not perfect.

Well It's not really a secret. We've been telling people why the dyno is out of comission for weeks now. Most of you have probably guessed. We are installing the latest all wheel drive eddy current power absorbtion Dynojet. It's fully optioned all the data aquisition capabalities available. This will now make tuning that much more accurate.:redspot if not perfect.
Hmm.. will you guys run tests of the same car under the same conditions with the old and new dyno to see if there are any discrepancies and if any comparisons to older data are possible? I have 2 dyno sheets from you guys and I'll soon be going for a new one and I want to know how comparable my results will be. Thanks.

Well It's not really a secret. We've been telling people why the dyno is out of comission for weeks now. Most of you have probably guessed. We are installing the latest all wheel drive eddy current power absorbtion 424xLC Dynojet. It's fully optioned all the data aquisition capabalities available. This will now make tuning that much more accurate.:redspot if not perfect.

Dayumm...know alot of evo/sti owners that will be interested in this dyno day then :)

Dayumm...know alot of evo/sti owners that will be interested in this dyno day then :)
Call em up! Can you make the 24th? Early morning possibly? If you have to work I'm sure nobody would have a problem letting you go first. :)

thats so far away .... i might just go on my own now ... :\ and i got all my parts in last week and will be installing this week
A couple weeks goes faster than you think... :) The dyno is down right now at carb conn... it won't even be available until the second week of March or so.

:( seems like i'm out... cuz umnitza doesn't have their shit together and is not gonna ship my exhaust until mid-march... it was supposed to ship in the end of january... so don't count me in for march. if there's a dyno day in april though, i'll be there.
Will March 24th work if you don't get your exhaust until Mid March? I'll help you install it if need be...

Hmm.. will you guys run tests of the same car under the same conditions with the old and new dyno to see if there are any discrepancies and if any comparisons to older data are possible? I have 2 dyno sheets from you guys and I'll soon be going for a new one and I want to know how comparable my results will be. Thanks.

No problem there. Your original runs will be accurately comparable to the new runs. That was one of the considerations when we chose to stay with a Dynojet. Losing 10 years of usefull dyno data would've been a shame.

Yeah 24th works for me... Ill have my coilovers on then,woo hella hp...I can post this up on a private forum which will bring alot of cool cars... but not to many...probably 4-6. The sooner we get a set date the more cars will come... Let me know!

Yeah 24th works for me... Ill have my coilovers on then,woo hella hp...I can post this up on a private forum which will bring alot of cool cars... but not to many...probably 4-6. The sooner we get a set date the more cars will come... Let me know!
Date is already set. John penciled us in for the 24th already...so unless we need to change that we are already in. :thumbup:

Date is already set. John penciled us in for the 24th already...so unless we need to change that we are already in. :thumbup:

Sounds good. You starting a new thread or continue a new List in the month dyno day thread?

Sounds good. You starting a new thread or continue a new List in the month dyno day thread?
No I just update post #1 with new DD dates and stuff.

1bad M3. We used to go to this tuner shop in Bellingham that charges 60 for 3 dynos with AFR readouts. If you can get together 2-3 people they can probably do it for same price. LMK.

I'll bet a couple of my Bellingham friends would be down. Where is this place?

I'll bet a couple of my Bellingham friends would be down. Where is this place?
Kirkland. Right off I-405 - easy to find. :)

Oh, I was talking about the shop that is in Bellingham.

Oh, I was talking about the shop that is in Bellingham.

It's out on the Guide Meridian. I think it's called Meridian Performance. Check the phone book.

Oh, I was talking about the shop that is in Bellingham.
OOps my bad... I didn't look at your reply quote. :)

Will March 24th work if you don't get your exhaust until Mid March? I'll help you install it if need be...

Can I bring my chevelle?

Can I bring my chevelle?
Hell ya! :D

383 stroker. 700r4 (2300 stall) and 3:08 posi!!!!!!! book says over 400hp. am very curious to ON the Pavement HP! I know a 700r4 eats a lot of ponies.

Will March 24th work if you don't get your exhaust until Mid March? I'll help you install it if need be...
Well let's hope so...
They are supposed to ship out on March 12th or something like that. So i'll need to install the exhaust immediately after I get it. Jesse, if you can offer me a garage where I can do the work, that would be much appreciated. Thanks.

interested

Vollgas should have their AWD Mustang operational soon as an FYI.

I'm really curious about any differences that may exist between the DynoJet and the Mustang given the new software updates on the Jet, anyone care to elaborate?

I'm down for a dyno, but not sure if I can wait that long. I have parts waiting to be installed. I was hoping to get a baseline dyno before installing the goodies.

I'm down for a dyno, but not sure if I can wait that long. I have parts waiting to be installed. I was hoping to get a baseline dyno before installing the goodies.


i wanna go soon too .... im going to find somewhere to go when i get back from hawaii (first week of march) u wanna go w./ me then:?

i wanna go soon too .... im going to find somewhere to go when i get back from hawaii (first week of march) u wanna go w./ me then:?

I'll go with you. I just talked to John at Carb Connection. The dyno won't be ready for a while. I need to get the M3 dynoed soon though. Like everyone else, I would like to go to the same place to dyno so that the #s are consistant. I need to make at least 3 trips to the same shop for dyno. Guest I'll just wait.

i dynod at a shop in marrysville so im going to go back there then ill go to the one on dyno day just to go to the meet and to see how different the 2 are and how my car stacks up to other m3's

Well let's hope so...
They are supposed to ship out on March 12th or something like that. So i'll need to install the exhaust immediately after I get it. Jesse, if you can offer me a garage where I can do the work, that would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Yeah, an exhaust swap is easy. I've got room in my garage, and a nice clean floor. :)

Hoping the exhaust will fix the HP issue you thought you were having with your chip? I think you'll see good gains - your software is set-up for less back-pressure so it should respond better with the new exhaust. :thumbup:

Vollgas should have their AWD Mustang operational soon as an FYI.

I'm really curious about any differences that may exist between the DynoJet and the Mustang given the new software updates on the Jet, anyone care to elaborate?
Here we go again... :rolleyes

J/K... the way Dynojets and Mustangs differ is this: A Dynojet originally used inertia to calculate actual horsepower, then uses the hp/tq ratio equation to find torque. More in depth, it measures the rate of acceleration of the tumblers, then calculates the horsepower needed to accelerate them based on their fixed weight and circumference. That is why on a Dynojet dyno if you lose tack pick-up you'll have HP but no Torque. DynoJets have been using an eddy current brake for quite a while now though that measures actual work performed (torque) using a strain gauge. Since it is not extrapolating information from acceleration, it is more of a direct measurement that cannot be disputed. Carb Conn uses a Dynojet with an Eddy Current Brake Loading Dynanometer.

Mustangs use a torque brake to find torque (mostly Eddy Current), then based on rpm they calculate hp. Some people say that Mustang dynos are harder on the driveline, others say it's no more harder than running on the freeway at WOT. No one has any proof to to either case so it's really a mute point. The are no more harder on the driveline than any other Eddy Current Loading Dynanometer.

Bottom line is that if you have a Dynojet next to a Mustang and all the same run parameters are put into the computer the same, you should have the same numbers within a few hp (normal tolerance for the engine and operating conditions).

It doesn't matter anyways; you should only be using one to tune your car...and your real measurement of power should be the track. :smoke3

Vollgas should have their AWD Mustang operational soon as an FYI.

I'm really curious about any differences that may exist between the DynoJet and the Mustang given the new software updates on the Jet, anyone care to elaborate?
I know of 4 separate shops that are converting to AWD dynos right now. It's the slow season, and most shops are realizing that they need to be AWD to stay competitive - there are too many AWD vehicles coming out that are tuner-popular to not have that capability at your shop.

Pina Motorsports in Kent is doing it; Carb Conn is doing it; Vollgas like you mentioned; and there was one other one in Oregon that I can't remember the name but I saw on another forum... it's getting pretty standard now though.

Pina has had one for quite a while, they're a dsm tuner.

Pina has had one for quite a while, they're a dsm tuner.


i have no need for AWD dyno so i never really care to ask :shifty

Pina has had one for quite a while, they're a dsm tuner.
Andres Santoso, the owner at Pina, just did financing with my business partner. They either are just installing AWD, or they are upgrading/putting in a new system. I don't think they had AWD before because he was saying that they had to upgrade to AWD for all the new AWD vehicles that are coming out. :dunno

Pina has had one for quite a while, they're a dsm tuner.
Here Mitchel, off their website:

We offer road tuning with an Innovate Wideband for $65 per hour, dyno tuning on a Dynojet 2WD Dyno for $125 per hour (requires installation of welded diff for AWDs), or for AWDs we will go to Dyno Authority in Redmond, WA to use the 4WD Mustang Dyno for $80 per hour.

So in the past they were doing AWD tuning at Dyno Authority.. but they are now putting in their own AWD dyno. :thumbup:

Will a first gen Rx-7 be welcome?

Will a first gen Rx-7 be welcome?
Of course Bimmer girl. ;)

You better run that M Coupe this time though. :eek: S54 hubba hubba.

A dyno day would be cool. What I really need though is a "project" day. Like where we gather those of us that need to do upgrades(suspension/exhaust/etc.). I have some shocks I need to install but can't because we're selling our house and I can't take the car apart in the driveway. :(

Of course Bimmer girl. ;)

You better run that M Coupe this time though. :eek: S54 hubba hubba.


It's March 24, right? I leave for Mexico that day so it will be the 7 alone.

A dyno day would be cool. What I really need though is a "project" day. Like where we gather those of us that need to do upgrades(suspension/exhaust/etc.). I have some shocks I need to install but can't because we're selling our house and I can't take the car apart in the driveway. :(
If you join Team BB-AW, we would have project days every week/couple weeks. :thumbup:

It's March 24, right? I leave for Mexico that day so it will be the 7 alone.
Wait, Mexico without the hubby?

Interesting...

Girls week out!!

Girls week out!!
NOICE.

If you join Team BB-AW, we would have project days every week/couple weeks. :thumbup:
Cool! What's team BB-AW? I saw your website but didn't see anything about a club.
It would be nice to have project days with fellow enthusiasts. I'm a fairly decent DIY kinda guy but I can't always do everything by myself.

*edit* i just found your post about BB AW and am reading it now.

Cool! What's team BB-AW? I saw your website but didn't see anything about a club.
It would be nice to have project days with fellow enthusiasts. I'm a fairly decent DIY kinda guy but I can't always do everything by myself.

*edit* i just found your post about BB AW and am reading it now.
Yeah my new website should be up and running any time now. The web designer is almost OCD about pefecting the site so every time I say "are we ready to roll?" he says "Dude I just added this really cool thing that nobody else has, and now I'm up to 600 lines of code from 400" bla bla bla lol. So, anyways the current site hasn't been updated because the new site should be rolled out very soon.

Team BB-AW will be an enthusiast BMW/German Car team. The cool thing about it is you'll have the chance to experience other people with just about the same car constantly doing stuff. I might be doing a front-end suspension overhaul, while someone else may be putting in cams, so you can hang out and even if you're not doing anything to your car you can see how it's done and know that there are people there that can help you do it.

Sounds cool. Front end suspension happens to be what I'm stuck on...haha
Have some Koni FSD's, back shocks I can do myself... fronts I got the passenger side strut almost out but couldn't get it out of the lower joint(where there's a pinch bolt). I should just pay to get it done since I don't want to screw something up but shops want a ridiculous amount.
Anyway, my point is, that's where it would be nice to have someone professional helping.