View Full Version : We have an engine swap forum?


Cerpin TaxT
01-23-2007, 10:11 PM
I just noticed this and i figured id be the first to post up.

Its about time we got a section like this.


Thanks :D

Hayden
01-23-2007, 10:27 PM
We do now

:dunno

Goon
01-23-2007, 10:38 PM
About time! Be good to have them all in one section, so people can look up alternatives quickly and easily... I'll be watching this closely for the sake of my 318 :shifty

GodFather
01-23-2007, 11:46 PM
sweet :)

tekviper
01-23-2007, 11:53 PM
i guess theres a few threads that need to be moved here no?

ModenaM3
01-23-2007, 11:56 PM
Nice!

ParadigmGuy
01-24-2007, 12:12 AM
Non-BMW engine swaps? I don't think that we have a lot of those. Most people who do the engine swaps do it with another model's BMW engine.

gboezio
01-24-2007, 12:20 AM
Wooohoo that's some nice forum, I'll hang in here a lot.

scyrusurcys
01-24-2007, 01:24 AM
Very good idea to have this forum. Hopefully there will be many stickies in this one.

jensklemp
01-24-2007, 02:47 AM
Rotary time?

gboezio
01-24-2007, 02:54 AM
Since we are so jealous of the supra's motors why not swapping them in our bimmers. Yeeehaaw, rice and beer for dinner!!

jensklemp
01-24-2007, 03:05 AM
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/89db12b9-260b-4dbe-8d79-987f004150d2.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/89db12b9-260b-4dbe-8d79-987f004150d2.htm)4 Rotor E46? (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/89db12b9-260b-4dbe-8d79-987f004150d2.htm) I think. It's still loading I hope its the right video.

TheJakeR
01-24-2007, 04:02 AM
We will definately see some LS swaps in this... cant wait!

Matt
01-24-2007, 05:32 AM
Non-BMW engine swaps? I don't think that we have a lot of those. Most people who do the engine swaps do it with another model's BMW engine.

:wave

I was thinking the same thing.

Kevlar
01-24-2007, 10:24 AM
Non-BMW engine swaps? I don't think that we have a lot of those. Most people who do the engine swaps do it with another model's BMW engine.

Those should probably go into the chassis forum where the engine is being swapped into. There will probably be more relavent information in there anyway.

GMM
01-24-2007, 01:24 PM
Nice, Ive been discussing this with my father for a while. Hopefully ill get some advice out of here.

740iMC
01-24-2007, 01:56 PM
Personally, I would like to see a LS7 engine swap into an e46 M3. :D

Fair
01-24-2007, 04:02 PM
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!! :redspot

bmw3er
01-24-2007, 05:41 PM
Thanks to the mods for this section. Hopefully it will get some good use after people actually realize its here.

L3000C
01-24-2007, 08:13 PM
sweeetnesss!

Fly635CSi
01-25-2007, 12:58 AM
yea i think it should be all swaps

HTOWN///M
01-25-2007, 01:02 AM
this is awsome. i didnt even know this was here till just now. glad to see were expanding

windnsea00
01-25-2007, 02:02 AM
Intriguing...I will be looking forward to some good pictures soon.

bmw318is1994
01-25-2007, 02:22 PM
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/89db12b9-260b-4dbe-8d79-987f004150d2.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/89db12b9-260b-4dbe-8d79-987f004150d2.htm)4 Rotor E46? (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/89db12b9-260b-4dbe-8d79-987f004150d2.htm) I think. It's still loading I hope its the right video.


:werd: thats badass!! my friend is doing a 13b (2 rotor) into a minitruck!!

Kevlar
01-25-2007, 02:51 PM
Thanks to the mods for this section. Hopefully it will get some good use after people actually realize its here.

I hope so too ... or the section will be dissolved and the threads get sent to specific chassis forums or general discussion.

autophile
01-25-2007, 03:55 PM
This is awesome!

Thanks Mods!!!

I'm working to document an e39 LS1 twin turbo swap. I'll repost what I have here.

Yeee HAAAW!

DaveAZ
01-25-2007, 04:19 PM
Non-BMW engine swaps? I don't think that we have a lot of those.

That is because this forum didn't exist, so they were scattered all over the place. Here are a few that should be moved into here:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151815

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=600748

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=642074

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367387

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651120

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=635861

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645938

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=550353

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=623766

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63448

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155480

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589160

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118362

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=611092

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=632423

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305051

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589160

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8517989&posted=1#post8517989

Thank you to Kevlar and Fair for finally getting this forum on here!
Now we just need to put it to good use.

rao
01-25-2007, 05:06 PM
Great news!

Can a moderator please move my thread here?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=672801

Thanks.

Fair
01-25-2007, 07:38 PM
Thank you to Kevlar and Fair for finally getting this forum on here!
Oh, don;t thank me... we asked but the $$ involved to sponsor a particular sub-forum was more than our marketing budget allowed (above what we already sponsor). You can thank your moderators and the site owner(s) for this sub-forum. Thanks also to everyone who voted.

Whenever you see a forum sponsored by a company, thank them.

JuanPac0
01-29-2007, 01:41 AM
Posting in legendary thread for legendary status. :shifty

Franchise
01-29-2007, 05:44 AM
That is because this forum didn't exist, so they were scattered all over the place. Here are a few that should be moved into here:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151815

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=600748

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=642074

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367387

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651120

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=635861

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645938

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=550353

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=623766

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63448

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155480

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589160

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118362

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=611092

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=632423

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305051

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589160

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8517989&posted=1#post8517989

Thank you to Kevlar and Fair for finally getting this forum on here!
Now we just need to put it to good use.


excellent

carbon monoxide
01-31-2007, 01:43 AM
so what about some parts list and some information already.

erikerikerik
01-31-2007, 02:42 AM
Non-BMW engine swaps? I don't think that we have a lot of those. Most people who do the engine swaps do it with another model's BMW engine.
yeah, I think a slight modification of the title maybe be needed to just "engine change."
because to swap is the replace with the same make and model. engine change is to replace with a different engine. stupid terminology.

SQ Bimmer
01-31-2007, 02:43 AM
Oh crap, never noticed this. Guess I'll be posting in here a lot!

stan man
01-31-2007, 07:01 PM
So LS1 is great, but what about 4.6L mustang engine?
It's way cheaper and still gonna be lots of fun, no?

rao
01-31-2007, 08:06 PM
The 4.6 Ford motor is a lot wider then the LS1 (those darn overhead cams :laugh ) so it won't fit as easily, or at all, in a lot of applications.

OilStain
01-31-2007, 09:31 PM
Rao, are you Rob from the Rx7 place?

Just curious, as I think (uh) I remember the moniker Rao.

Cheers, either way!

rao
01-31-2007, 09:59 PM
^^^^ yep, that's me. I did 2 RX-7 engine swaps :)

JoeZ
01-31-2007, 10:38 PM
^^^^ yep, that's me. I did 2 RX-7 engine swaps :)


Pics or ban;)

Fair
01-31-2007, 10:50 PM
So LS1 is great, but what about 4.6L mustang engine?
It's way cheaper and still gonna be lots of fun, no?
DOHC engines are externally huge, very heavy, and have many more parts (4 cams vs 1) for their displacement and power. As "dinosaur" as they may seem to some, an OHV V8 can be very compact, robust, low cost, lightweight and pack in a lot of liters.

The new GM LSX is capable of 8.2L in an externally LS1 looking shell. MMM... :evil2

One of my oldest, and most self explanatory pictures about DOHC V8s...
http://www.vorshlag.com/pictures/motor-4.6-4V-004.jpg
No trickery, no foolin. 4.6L on left, 5.0L on right.

The DOHC Ford 4.6L is similar in size and weight to the BMW M62. The 4.4L BMW M62 V8 is 7" wider than the 5.7-7.0L LS1/2/6/7, not to mention a lot heavier and harder to make power with... these are pictures of my former '98 540 engine and the LS1 in our first E36:

http://www.vorshlag.com/fair/M62_vs_LS1_01.jpghttp://www.vorshlag.com/fair/M62_vs_LS1_02.jpg
1998 BME 540 M62 motor and engine cover..... being measured w/o engine cover at right
http://www.vorshlag.com/fair/M62_vs_LS1_03.jpghttp://www.vorshlag.com/fair/M62_vs_LS1_04.jpg
Note the M62 engine width of over 27"......LS1 in E36 being measured at right

http://www.vorshlag.com/fair/M62_vs_LS1_05.jpghttp://www.vorshlag.com/fair/M62_vs_LS1_06.jpg
LS1 is 20" and change wide..... M62 intake/engine cover completely dwarfs the LS1! :eek:

http://www.vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/108926762-S.jpghttp://www.vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/108926890-S.jpg
http://www.vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/108927047-S.jpghttp://www.vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/108927238-S.jpg
More M62 hugeness. Note more massive M5 version at bottom right. "400hp" and it can be yours for only $10-15K, used.
Bring a blowtorch for the showhorn job that motor requires! :D

Having worked on many Ford 4.6Ls and M62s, I can tell you first hand of the pain and frustration - but you probably already know. Just changing the fan (http://www.vorshlag.com/tech_540fan.php) is a PITA. LS1 motor work is easy in comparison... LS1 cam swaps are stupid easy, LS1 water pump change (http://www.vorshlag.com/ls1_waterpump.asp) is 60 minutes of easy, as are most other jobs.

rao
01-31-2007, 11:14 PM
Pics or ban;)

Here are some pics of the last one.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603638

The other one was a hardtop with a LT1, I will have to dig up some pics of that one if you really want them :)

JoeZ
01-31-2007, 11:24 PM
Here are some pics of the last one.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603638



Ahhhh! I remember seeing that car on LS1tech! :cool



The other one was a hardtop with a LT1, I will have to dig up some pics of that one if you really want them :)



Of course. I love this stuff :buttrock

SQ Bimmer
02-01-2007, 02:18 AM
When my 50 dies, I am almost positive that an LSx will take it's place.

rao
02-01-2007, 09:42 AM
Of course. I love this stuff :buttrock


Here are a few; I don't have any good engine bay shots with everything all cleaned up.

In Chicago:

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=citysmallvo4.jpg

Engine Bay:

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mazda111002009ps5.jpg

2 V8 RX-7s drag racing:

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7130atthetrack004fe0.jpg

theruss1an1
02-02-2007, 11:33 PM
Right on :buttrock

Lets get some good write ups going!!!

-Serge

jaylinmarie
02-05-2007, 11:10 PM
I have a 91 3 series convertible automatic, I want to change it to standard.
I have someone who is selling me the engine and transmission, what else do I need to buy to make the conversion