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VeNo///M 01-10-2007, 03:32 AM Alright guys, so I am in the process of signing up for the driving school on Jan. 22 at Laguna Seca and noticed that one of the requirements was that my car must be registered. I just bought the car about a month ago and right now I only have a "permit to operate vehicle" from the DMV. You know, one of the little red pieces of paper with a number for the month on it, goes on the back window. It's good til the end of Feb. by when I'll have to get it smogged.
So my question is will I be able to attend the driving school with my car, it's techincally not registered. But I am able to legal drive it on the road like I said. Will this suffice for the registration requirement? Thank You.
cosmom3 01-10-2007, 04:21 AM The red peice of paper you are reffering to IS your temporary proof of registration, why wouldnt it work :alright
VeNo///M 01-10-2007, 05:52 AM The red peice of paper you are reffering to IS your temporary proof of registration, why wouldnt it work :alright
Oh ok, should have figured. Thanks man.
:alright Indeed.
Hedley Lamarr 01-10-2007, 10:12 AM registration is a requirement?
how do they deal with track-only cars?
rcs328 01-10-2007, 11:52 AM Alright guys, so I am in the process of signing up for the driving school on Jan. 22 at Laguna Seca and noticed that one of the requirements was that my car must be registered. I just bought the car about a month ago and right now I only have a "permit to operate vehicle" from the DMV. You know, one of the little red pieces of paper with a number for the month on it, goes on the back window. It's good til the end of Feb. by when I'll have to get it smogged.
So my question is will I be able to attend the driving school with my car, it's techincally not registered. But I am able to legal drive it on the road like I said. Will this suffice for the registration requirement? Thank You.
I'm not sure what the weather will be like at Laguna in two weeks, but I'm guessing you'll be driving w/ the windows down. You may want to consider taping down all the edges of the permit so it doesn't flap around or tear to shreds. Or, just remove it at the track and bring some tape along to re-attach at the end of the day.
DaveCN 01-10-2007, 12:17 PM Contact the Chapter Driving School Chairperson or coordinator for this school and ask them. That is who will make the final decision, I'd assume.
nick325xit 5spd 01-10-2007, 12:20 PM registration is a requirement?
how do they deal with track-only cars?
Usually banned from schools.
osborni 01-10-2007, 12:24 PM Track cars (race prepped and DE only trailered cars) have been at just about every DE I've been at. I'm pretty sure all in the advanced and/or instructor groups though. I've seen a few full cage / roll bar cars (mine included) in not-advanced groups, don't know if they where not road registered though.
dmwhite 01-10-2007, 12:25 PM Usually banned from schools.
:confused
i know a lot of folks (students and instructors) that do bmw DE's in race cars...
Hedley Lamarr 01-10-2007, 12:26 PM Track cars (race prepped and DE only trailered cars) have been at just about every DE I've been at. I'm pretty sure all in the advanced and/or instructor groups though. I've seen a few full cage / roll bar cars (mine included) in not-advanced groups, don't know if they where not road registered though.
that was my point
Ive never been to one where track only cars were NOT present
nick325xit 5spd 01-10-2007, 12:28 PM :confused
i know a lot of folks (students and instructors) that do bmw DE's in race cars...
OK, in my area, they seem to be banned outside of the instructor group from many of the normal DE venues.
DaveCN 01-10-2007, 12:28 PM that was my point
Ive never been to one where track only cars were NOT present
Same here.
S.Lang 01-10-2007, 12:32 PM Track cars have been present at every event I've attended or instructed. Hell, the shake down for my very first race car was at a CCA school where I attended as a student.
I think the rule is enforced rarely, and it probably does vary from chapter to chapter, so the advice to check with the chapter that's running your event is good. Don't expect to say "I heard it on bf.c!" and expect to be let on-track! :)
snuggz 01-10-2007, 12:38 PM Track cars have been present at every event I've attended or instructed. Hell, the shake down for my very first race car was at a CCA school where I attended as a student.
I think the rule is enforced rarely, and it probably does vary from chapter to chapter, so the advice to check with the chapter that's running your event is good. Don't expect to say "I heard it on bf.c!" and expect to be let on-track! :)
Yeah, I think the rule mostly exists to deture people from showing up in something that isn't road-worthy, let alone DE worthy... Remember, this is a "driving school" event, which is usally geared towards members who want to learn better control of their street car/skills, not track junkies...
DaveCN 01-10-2007, 12:49 PM Remember, this is a "driving school" event, which is usally geared towards members who want to learn better control of their street car/skills, not track junkies...
Virtually all of the instructors at events around here seem to have track dedicated cars. A good number are in fact race cars. Many of the others are at least stripped interiors with cages or roll bars, etc. And it seems like at each event, the number of cars coming on trailers increases. Hell, even as an intermediate driver who has only been doing these for a little under two years, I am beefing up the safety equipment and contemplating a trailer. (Of course, a $400 tow bill after my car crapped last Easter Sunday at a driving school is a motiviating factor in that!)
Further, at the last school I attended, there was a big push to get harnesses and other safety equipment into student cars. Makes them less like street cars, no?
There certainly are people participating to improve their street skills and learn the car better, but I'd venture to say that at the schools I have been at, even in the C and D groups, that is not the majority.
Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting it changes the tenor of the event, its just my observation.
hooRAH 01-10-2007, 02:23 PM (Of course, a $400 tow bill after my car crapped last Easter Sunday at a driving school is a motiviating factor in that!)
I happen to work directly across the street from our local track (Moroso in S. FL), and you just made me think of how lucky I would be to be able to push the car across the street until I figured out what to do with it. Definitely something to think about!
thenobot 01-10-2007, 10:00 PM Don't sweat it. Nobody checks for registration, license plates, or anything like that. Arrive and have a good time!
See you there -- I'll be the guy in a black Miata (soon to be un-registered) hanging out with a lovely lady in a grey 2007 328iT Wagon and another guy in a silver 2005 750i. It'll be fun!
CP Louie 01-10-2007, 10:02 PM :confused
i know a lot of folks (students and instructors) that do bmw DE's in race cars...
That would be me.
Chris
jdholder 01-11-2007, 01:03 AM registration is a requirement?
how do they deal with track-only cars?
They don't. This is California. Weird rules.
jdholder 01-11-2007, 01:05 AM Track cars have been present at every event I've attended or instructed. Hell, the shake down for my very first race car was at a CCA school where I attended as a student.
I think the rule is enforced rarely, and it probably does vary from chapter to chapter, so the advice to check with the chapter that's running your event is good. Don't expect to say "I heard it on bf.c!" and expect to be let on-track! :)
While you are right Scott. The official line is that it must be registered. It has gotten a bit more strict since you and I got started. And at LS, who knows? The track may have some crazy rule that limits access to only street driven cars becuase of sound restrictions. Not saying it makes sense, but it seldom does with SCRAMP.
traqrat 01-11-2007, 02:05 AM What's weird is even though they say your car has to be registered, the waiver you sign acknowledges you are going to be around cars which may not have insurance. Although DMV has never asked me for proof of insurance when I pay registration, you are supposed to have proof of insurance to register a car. Go figure.
Hedley Lamarr 01-11-2007, 09:37 AM They don't. This is California. Weird rules.
ha ha ha ! We dont have to deal with that up here although your able to drive 12 months a year out there and we aren't.
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