well i forgot to post this up but it happend awhile ago.

Black m5 vs black integra
Well my brother and i built this ls vtec (currently putting together a fully built stroked and bored, sleeved gsr engine. 2.1 FTW!!)

Back to the point, when we had the ls vtec running we went out for a little v8 hunting. We didnt exactly catch the v8 we wanted to though, but we did get a v10! haha..it ended up being one of our friend boys that had a 05 m5 on 150 shot.

With out spray it was a pretty bad ass race. We did a second gear roll since we didnt have the radials on the teggy. We hit it at around 4500 rpm so we wernt quite building boost yet, the m5 jumped like a car and then once we hit 5500 rpm...VTEC!!! lmao...but yea its around same time we start spooling up(damn .70 trim) we caught up to the m5. threw 3rd and pulled around another car, half way into 4th we left of around 2 and a half cars in front of the m5.

With spray....hahaha a completly diff race...to make it short he gave my brother the idea to fully build his engine cause he never been beat so hard....i Give much respect to that M5. Where ever you are:buttrock

I find this pretty hard to believe.

Anyone smell that?

I'm sorry, but i agree. Who puts naws in an M5? I'm not hatin on you just a little apprehensive. Good kill if its true!

Who puts naws in an M5?
When 500hp isn't enough why not.

I find this pretty hard to believe.


+1, 500hp +150 shot. Even without the nitrous the m5 is a beast

I heard something about this race.

There's a guy who ran an 11.58 in the 1/4 with a 100 shot of nitrous in his E60 M5.
But even without nitrous, you would need one hell of an Integra to beat an E60 M5.
Especially because you are talking about high speeds in 3rd and 4th gear, in case you didn't know, this is where the M5 starts to shine.
At about 120mph it starts walking away (slowly) from a stock 996 Turbo, Gallardo (plenty of vids around to prove that).
Would your Integra walk those cars at those speeds ?

I doubt it.

E60 M5 + 100 shot of nitrous

http://www.dragtimes.com/images/7809-2006-BMW-M5.jpg

depends how much boost the integra is running. Anything is believable. If you say you are just running a stock fully worked VTech motor running an e60 M5 would leave you an entire highway behind. Was never a fan of nitrous since it proves nothing and to put it on a stock car is useless no matter what times you can run :dunno sort of like saying how many homeruns can you hit on steroids..

depends how much boost the integra is running. Anything is believable. If you say you are just running a stock fully worked VTech motor running an e60 M5 would leave you an entire highway behind. Was never a fan of nitrous since it proves nothing and to put it on a stock car is useless no matter what times you can run :dunno sort of like saying how many homeruns can you hit on steroids..

+1

I agree with the nitrous sentiment...

I agree with the nitrous sentiment...

Why does everyone have this superstition about nitrous like its a bad horrible dirty thing.....

Why does everyone have this superstition about nitrous like its a bad horrible dirty thing.....

Because I feel like it doesn't prove anything if you use that and then race people and act like you've done something special.


Honestly what does it prove?

NOS is not a bad thing. By cousin has a daily driver 85 thunderbird with a stock 97 cobra motor and 6 spd transplant and 150 shot. It has had 53 bottles through it an 1/8 mile at a time. ZERO problems. Just a clutch here and there. His best run is a 6.723 @ 103.92 on slicks.

His best run is a 6.723 @ 103.92 on slicks.

I am thinking this is a typo?

I am thinking this is a typo?
ditto

Well, he said 1/8 mile...

I am thinking this is a typo?

1/8 mile

Because I feel like it doesn't prove anything if you use that and then race people and act like you've done something special.


Honestly what does it prove?

??? why are you trying to prove anything by doing anything with your car?
Nitrous gives that added edge in a race and a well engineered system is something to be proud of. Running a 150 shot on an m5 is not as easy as it might seem, but when its done correctly (proper jetting, tuning ect) its a wonderful thing.
I can see where you are coming from though many people see it as cheating or an easy way out. But what other options are there right now for he m5?

Why is this hard to belive ?? My friend built integra on race gas makes 630 WHP !!!!!! It will kill a M5 all day long... even with Nitrous. maybe they M5 will catsh up after 145 + lol.

maybe they M5 will catsh up after 145 + lol.

It will catch up because the integra will begin to disintegrate at those speeds :D

Seeing an E60 M5 with nitrous would be a sight to see :buttrock

It will catch up because the integra will begin to disintegrate at those speeds :D




Hahahahahah +1 :lol

when he raced the m5 he was only on and ls vtec with block gaurd, thicker head gasket, 540 injectors. We had the LS tranny and the much higher rpms so it was kinda cool with the long ass gearing for the turbo. We were taking 2nd to almost 80 (like 75ish). I have a video on my RAZR but i dont know how to upload it onto a computer.

We werent fully built when we raced the m5. We were at around 320whp (on a 2700 lbs car) We never ran it at the track at that point of its life but i know we were in the 12's with the tires at the track.

were fully building a gs-r block stroked and bored. Were hopiong to get around mid 400 daily driven....

And you guys are right about the teggy breaking aprt at 145. The thing is we get there pretty quick so you dont feel it when you are floored but when you left of the gas its kinda scary cause the car really wasnt built to stay up there for that long.....But that m5 gave a nast run on spray.

A stock M5 runs the 1/4 in about 12.5 seconds.
Some people have seen low 12s stock.
With nitrous that M5 will run the 1/4 in mid to high 11s.
If an E60 M5 with a 100 shot runs 11.58, an M5 with a 150 shot will see low 11s.
You claim the M5 was one car ahead, which means you pulled a total of 3.5 cars (one car to make up the distance and another 2.5 cars).
So your 12 second car pulled 3.5 cars against an 11 second car.
That's weird.

I truly believe that you guys have a badass Integra and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but some things just don't add up.
If this were against a stock M5, you would probably have stayed pretty even till maybe 120mph.
But like you said numerous times, the M5 had nitrous.
Sounds hard to believe, knowing that an E60 M5 with nitrous (especially with a 150 shot) will runs 11s in the 1/4.

your read wrong....we raced it without nitrous and we beat it by around 2 cars...we raced it with and he walked us like we were standing still


A stock M5 runs the 1/4 in about 12.5 seconds.
Some people have seen low 12s stock.
With nitrous that M5 will run the 1/4 in mid to high 11s.
If an E60 M5 with a 100 shot runs 11.58, an M5 with a 150 shot will see low 11s.
You claim the M5 was one car ahead, which means you pulled a total of 3.5 cars (one car to make up the distance and another 2.5 cars).
So your 12 second car pulled 3.5 cars against an 11 second car.
That's weird.

I truly believe that you guys have a badass Integra and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but some things just don't add up.
If this were against a stock M5, you would probably have stayed pretty even till maybe 120mph.
But like you said numerous times, the M5 had nitrous.
Sounds hard to believe, knowing that an E60 M5 with nitrous (especially with a 150 shot) will runs 11s in the 1/4.

your read wrong....we raced it without nitrous and we beat it by around 2 cars...we raced it with and he walked us like we were standing still

Well that explains alot :D

I'm still amazed by the result, but it makes alot more sense if it was against a stock M5.
You sure he wasn't in P400 mode ?
Because in P500 mode he should also be running 12s in the 1/4.

Because I feel like it doesn't prove anything if you use that and then race people and act like you've done something special.


Honestly what does it prove?

This is the stupidest post I've read so far :confused . Nitrous is just like any other mod.

yea im positive....but the night was really cold...it was when miami was in the 50's cause of that coldfront like 3 weeks ago. Well we tuned at 85 degrees and made like 320whp...so we might have been around the mid 300's that night....the much denser air probably explains why we blew the engine...im trying to upload the video but my phone doesnt let me upload more than 250kb at a time!!! anyone know how to work that out, its a RAZR

yea.......

yea.......


yeah.....I still think your gay rick. :buttrock

??? why are you trying to prove anything by doing anything with your car?
Nitrous gives that added edge in a race and a well engineered system is something to be proud of. Running a 150 shot on an m5 is not as easy as it might seem, but when its done correctly (proper jetting, tuning ect) its a wonderful thing.
I can see where you are coming from though many people see it as cheating or an easy way out. But what other options are there right now for he m5?

Well, think about it. Why do you race? You might say there is some personal satisfaction, but you get most of that satisfaction out of proving to the other racer that you were superior. My question is, if you are using nitrous, what does it prove really? That the other guy didnt use nitrous?

This is the stupidest post I've read so far :confused . Nitrous is just like any other mod.

No. It's not. Cars were not made to use nitrous, they were made to breathe in air and use oxygen from air.

Any other mod you use still requires AIR and the amount of oxygen that naturally occurs in air.

You get at least 50% more oxygen out of nitrous than you do in air.


That's like taking a car that runs on 100% batteries and a car that runs on gas and see which one needs to go to the gas station first.

It's just not fair at all, and to act like your car/you're superior by using nitrous is plain retarded.

yeah.....I still think your gay rick. :buttrock
yea.. you must be stalking me casue it's kinda creepy stalking me from thread to thread... keep stuff in the other thread champ... you are so sad

No. It's not. Cars were not made to use nitrous, they were made to breathe in air and use oxygen from air.

Any other mod you use still requires AIR and the amount of oxygen that naturally occurs in air.

You get at least 50% more oxygen out of nitrous than you do in air.


That's like taking a car that runs on 100% batteries and a car that runs on gas and see which one needs to go to the gas station first.

It's just not fair at all, and to act like your car/you're superior by using nitrous is plain retarded.

well if you think about it its the same concept as a turbo...the turbo forces more air into the combustion chamber...nitrous almost freezes the air making it ultra dense so there is more air in the cumbustion chamber. Im anti nitrous too, but you cant complain. Its like any other mod. You do it to make more power right, doesnt matter what you did.

Stop whoring this pic - Mods

The reason I don't like nos is the fact that somebody can fully build a car, custom turbo setup - pour lots of money and soul into the car to make it a beast. Then another kid can come along with a totally stock car, add nos, and it's just as fast on the bottle. Who did a better job of building a car? Which car is actually better? Not only that but I would hate having to "refill" my speed and not have it all the time. I get angry enough having to put gas in my car. I want to pay for something once, like a turbocharger or supercharger, and have it give me reliable power over and over again. I don't have to refill my supercharger. Just my take on the whole subject.

No. It's not. Cars were not made to use nitrous, they were made to breathe in air and use oxygen from air.

Any other mod you use still requires AIR and the amount of oxygen that naturally occurs in air.

You get at least 50% more oxygen out of nitrous than you do in air.


That's like taking a car that runs on 100% batteries and a car that runs on gas and see which one needs to go to the gas station first.

It's just not fair at all, and to act like your car/you're superior by using nitrous is plain retarded.


What is fair in a street race? a 500hp m5 vs a 500hp m5? they'd be side by side all day. the race is determined by "what's on the car" and how it's driven.

There's a guy who ran an 11.58 in the 1/4 with a 100 shot of nitrous in his E60 M5.
But even without nitrous, you would need one hell of an Integra to beat an E60 M5.
Especially because you are talking about high speeds in 3rd and 4th gear, in case you didn't know, this is where the M5 starts to shine.
At about 120mph it starts walking away (slowly) from a stock 996 Turbo, Gallardo (plenty of vids around to prove that).
Would your Integra walk those cars at those speeds ?

I doubt it.

E60 M5 + 100 shot of nitrous




I don't think it'd walk from a more powerful, lighter, gallardo.

well if you think about it its the same concept as a turbo...the turbo forces more air into the combustion chamber...nitrous almost freezes the air making it ultra dense so there is more air in the cumbustion chamber. Im anti nitrous too, but you cant complain. Its like any other mod. You do it to make more power right, doesnt matter what you did.

A turbo is still using atmospheric air to gain power. Nitrous isn't.

That's all I'm saying.

it's still a "modifcation" to the car to make it faster. PERIOD.

This thread should be taken out to pasters and shot.

First of all, the point of racing is not to be fair. Its who gets to the finish line first, doesnt matter what mods you have done to the car. Nitrous is part of the game whether you like it or not. Its an easy way to make power. I'm actually considering nitrous right now because thats one of the only options I have left. I'll be in the 10's with a 100 shot. I might not do it because then I would need a roll cage and I dont want that. Plus the fear of having my engine blow :mad Nitrous is not cheating, its part of the game. Do whatever it takes to beat the guy in the lane next to you (within the rules)

Why does everyone have this superstition about nitrous like its a bad horrible dirty thing.....


ignorance :rolleyes

My car has both, turbo & nitrous, I love cheating:stickoutt

There's no such thing as an 05 M5.

The reason I don't like nos is the fact that somebody can fully build a car, custom turbo setup - pour lots of money and soul into the car to make it a beast. Then another kid can come along with a totally stock car, add nos, and it's just as fast on the bottle. Who did a better job of building a car? Which car is actually better? Not only that but I would hate having to "refill" my speed and not have it all the time. I get angry enough having to put gas in my car. I want to pay for something once, like a turbocharger or supercharger, and have it give me reliable power over and over again. I don't have to refill my supercharger. Just my take on the whole subject.

Building the car I would say the guy that poured his heart into his car.
Which one was better?
The one that got to the line first. You lose and you say "at least i dont run nos" The fact is that the guy with nos won, and they lost. The only reason people dont like nitrous is because we as a culture feel we need to work for what we get, and nos just dosent fit that concept.

Anyone smell that?


bull Profanity deleted. Please do not require this thread to be closed.?

This is the stupidest post I've read so far :confused . Nitrous is just like any other mod.


No it's not and I already explained why. If you can't form a logical argument then kindly stfu dumb ass.

Besides this thread is like a month old nearly.

??? why are you trying to prove anything by doing anything with your car?
Nitrous gives that added edge in a race and a well engineered system is something to be proud of. Running a 150 shot on an m5 is not as easy as it might seem, but when its done correctly (proper jetting, tuning ect) its a wonderful thing.
I can see where you are coming from though many people see it as cheating or an easy way out. But what other options are there right now for he m5?

It's cool in real racing I think as long as it follows rules, but in street racing?

I guess you can argue that it's fair in the sense that everyone is "ALLOWED" to do it so the people who take advantage of that deserve the advantage, but my opinions on it still stand.

it's still a "modifcation" to the car to make it faster. PERIOD.


Thanks for establishing that. I feel so enlightened.

Building the car I would say the guy that poured his heart into his car.
Which one was better?
The one that got to the line first. You lose and you say "at least i dont run nos" The fact is that the guy with nos won, and they lost. The only reason people dont like nitrous is because we as a culture feel we need to work for what we get, and nos just dosent fit that concept.

nitrous kits/installation/refills cost money and money doesn't grow on trees, therefore, you have to work for nitrous kits/installation/refills.

Thanks for establishing that. I feel so enlightened.

...you're welcome.

haha, sorry, i didnt mean it was easy, its just an easier way to get big numbers then most other mods.

I'm sorry, but i agree. Who puts naws in an M5? I'm not hatin on you just a little apprehensive. Good kill if its true!

+1. The compression is very high on the E60 M5 engine (sorry, don't know the code) already, any kind of "nawz, yo" could spell disaster. Also, who with the money for an M5 is going to do something as cheap and ricey as "nawz"?

haha, sorry, i didnt mean it was easy, its just an easier way to get big numbers then most other mods.

that's true...for the sake of arguement, how do you feel towards FI? the NA guys can argue how your car gains 50-100+ hp from slappin' a turbo on while it takes them soo much to gain ~20hp.

Also, who with the money for an M5 is going to do something as cheap and ricey as "nawz"?
I would. :buttrock

that's true...for the sake of arguement, how do you feel towards FI? the NA guys can argue how your car gains 50-100+ hp from slappin' a turbo on while it takes them soo much to gain ~20hp.

i dont personally care what you do to the engine. street racing isnt exactly legal, so why should some one complain its not fair? i would turbo my car if it had less miles and i had the money. :(

that's true...for the sake of arguement, how do you feel towards FI? the NA guys can argue how your car gains 50-100+ hp from slappin' a turbo on while it takes them soo much to gain ~20hp.


FI is nice.. but NA is better .. INSTANT power.. no waiting..

especially if your NA number is close to a FI car...

example.. I have a 218 whp Integra type R..

I guarantee you that it will take at least a 350 whp FI car to beat that.. (srt 4s, evo, and sti's dont stand a chance in stock form)

hehe. i even have a freind that has a 260whp civic lined up to race that new 3 series that comes boosted... gota couple people puttin money on the civic


NA is great! Fi is nice too.. but for a honda.. 400+ is pointless.. the car just does burnouts in 3rd gear rollin...

and i bet the same theory probably goes for bmw's.. if not.. enlighten me!! XD

FI is nice.. but NA is better .. INSTANT power.. no waiting..
Sorry buddy, twinscrew s/c is "instant power". I have max tq by 2k rpm. A 218whp integra wouldn't stand a chance against a 350whp Evo.

example.. I have a 218 whp Integra type R..

I guarantee you that it will take at least a 350 whp FI car to beat that.. (srt 4s, evo, and sti's dont stand a chance in stock form)

hehe. i even have a freind that has a 260whp civic lined up to race that new 3 series that comes boosted... gota couple people puttin money on the civic


I'll have some of what you are smoking if you don't mind :eyecrazy

Do you realize that the 335 bimmer has about 300 crank hp which translates to something like 250whp? Why would it be strange if a lighter car with the same amount of power to the wheels would beat it? Maybe you have whp and engine hp mixed up somehow..

To the original subject, there is something wrong in it; a 500+hp m5 loses several carlenghts and then by spraying a 150shot it gives the integra its worst beating ever? Trust me, the M5 was toying with you guys... ;)

ive seen the new m5's blow away supercharged e46 m3's :rolleyes

I would. :buttrock

That's because you drive mercedes... :nono ... :D j/k

BTW, the one in your sig is :buttrock

BTW, the one in your sig is :buttrock
+1 for the benz but nitrous in a M5 is rice. This story is complete bs, you have a very active imagination.

That's because you drive mercedes... :nono ... :D j/k

BTW, the one in your sig is :buttrock
Thanks, its for sale :)

I don't think it'd walk from a more powerful, lighter, gallardo.

It DOES.
Pretty amazing huh.
<125mph : a Gallardo and a stock E60 M5 are even
>125mph : the stock E60 M5 starts creeping away from the Gallardo

Ask many of the E60 M5 owner on the M5 board.
There are some video's around that will prove this.
One of my friends bought an E60 M5 and mark my words when I say that it hauls ass.
It's really weird to see both cars race.
The M5 looks so big next to the Gallardo and still, it starts creeping away.

Thanks, its for sale :)

...hmm nice ride, I'd ask how much but it looks too much for my taste.

Sorry buddy, twinscrew s/c is "instant power". I have max tq by 2k rpm. A 218whp integra wouldn't stand a chance against a 350whp Evo.

+1 for truth

Never made a 05 M5 douchebaggo.

'Drag racing' is all about how much more money you spend over the rest of the guys. The richest (well now poorest) person always wins, wooooooooooooooooooooooo, no skill involved at all.

HAHA yeah right.

Nitrous in these cars is pointless to me. Ok.. so you have 150 more hp.. cool, but its only at full throttle, that defeats the purpose of owning one of these cars in my eyes. e60 m5's are not drag cars, why mod one as if it is?

because he is lying?

:bs

FI is nice.. but NA is better .. INSTANT power.. no waiting..

especially if your NA number is close to a FI car...

example.. I have a 218 whp Integra type R..

I guarantee you that it will take at least a 350 whp FI car to beat that.. (srt 4s, evo, and sti's dont stand a chance in stock form)

hehe. i even have a freind that has a 260whp civic lined up to race that new 3 series that comes boosted... gota couple people puttin money on the civic


NA is great! Fi is nice too.. but for a honda.. 400+ is pointless.. the car just does burnouts in 3rd gear rollin...

and i bet the same theory probably goes for bmw's.. if not.. enlighten me!! XD

This is garbage. Not every FI car has lag.

+1 for the benz but nitrous in a M5 is rice. This story is complete bs, you have a very active imagination.

Nitrous is a performance enhancing modification, so by definition it is not rice.

'Drag racing' is all about how much more money you spend over the rest of the guys. The richest (well now poorest) person always wins, wooooooooooooooooooooooo, no skill involved at all.

That's all racing unless you're in a class that severely restricts the modifications allowed.

'Drag racing' is all about how much more money you spend over the rest of the guys. The richest (well now poorest) person always wins, wooooooooooooooooooooooo, no skill involved at all.

Love statments like this. A local dealership brought a Merc. SLR ($500k) to Pacific raceway here in WA. every one gathered to watch it run. Every one laughed when he got beat by an old fox body Mustang. 99.999% of people who say draging takes no skill have none to begin with.

The only skills you need are launching and shifting, wo wa wooo waa, those should be the first things you learn when you start driving hard. Anyone who can't do those needs to sell their car, it's BASIC, FS how can you not see that?

That's why euro cars are so good, no BS straight line boring-ness.

And whyh do you americans think every car is made for drag racing, the SLR will get to 200+ MPH with comfort, lets see a Mustange do that, you dont live life 400M at a time. So so so shallow...

ls/vtec is no joke people. i've seen ls/vtec motors build with OEM parts blow doors off 12sec cobras/supras/ss...u name it. built ls/vtec w/ good tune could do alot better...but one thing puzzles me about the story... he said boost? but there r no specs or anythin regarding the turbo...

The only skills you need are launching and shifting, wo wa wooo waa, those should be the first things you learn when you start driving hard. Anyone who can't do those needs to sell their car, it's BASIC, FS how can you not see that?

That's why euro cars are so good, no BS straight line boring-ness.

And whyh do you americans think every car is made for drag racing, the SLR will get to 200+ MPH with comfort, lets see a Mustange do that, you dont live life 400M at a time. So so so shallow...
You think launching a car is easy? Oops, I just noticed the car in your sig. I guess it isnt hard to launch a car when you dont have any power!:D

'Drag racing' is all about how much more money you spend over the rest of the guys. The richest (well now poorest) person always wins, wooooooooooooooooooooooo, no skill involved at all.

:lol you my friend...... na never mind:rofl

I don't think it'd walk from a more powerful, lighter, gallardo.


7 short and nice gears in the m5 though .. dont forget that ... that is y the 6 speed manual E60 m5 is way slower

I would still take the M5 a million times over the Integra :)

Look up username gsrhunter on here. This guy has a built integra. This thing is a monster. C6 Z06? E60 M5? No problem. I've ridden with him in this car and it scares the shit out of me.......and he says it's only on low boost. :devillook I believe he's putting down around 575 fwhp on low boost.

He's got videos on youtube.

Look up username gsrhunter on here. This guy has a built integra. This thing is a monster. C6 Z06? E60 M5? No problem. I've ridden with him in this car and it scares the shit out of me.......and he says it's only on low boost. :devillook I believe he's putting down around 575 fwhp on low boost.

He's got videos on youtube.

Link?

FWD FTMFL!!!

You think launching a car is easy? Oops, I just noticed the car in your sig. I guess it isnt hard to launch a car when you dont have any power!:D


How hard would it be to practice launching? Not hard, and after a couple of weeks you would have it dialed. I guess the same doesn't go for american drivers though, I hear you guys are terrible :eyecrazy

Launching gets a 3/10 rating on my skill-scale, drummers and tap dancers, even ballerinas, are much more elite than the best american drag racer.

Man, this thread is whats wrong with bimmerforums.

Sounds like good race but to corret you not to be rude but on a boosted/sleeved b series they do not hit vtec anymore at 3500-4000rpm like they normall do as if you was NA. I mean not to be rude, its a waste of money spending $400-500 extra on vtec head where it doesn't do no extra flow or hp gain on a boosted .70 trim turbo kit which is fairly huge.

Only thing you'll ever feel or push way before you ever thought vtec kick in is turbo lag @ low rpm to probably 5-6k rpm depending on how the car is tuned. If car is tuned FMIC & built properly & running good fuel pressure i'm pretty sure the car shouldn't lag as bad but it all varies on what you're plans are.

I'm not a fan really of LS turbo, if i'm gonna spend the money & boost a b series i'd rather go b20 built sc-61 turbo hehe, easy 500+fwhp with no problem if its done right.

Never do i ever want to hear the term LS/vtec on a boosted LS motor its a waste of money & pointless to do vtec head on LS built turbo motor. Just go straight b18c1 GSR turbo or b20 turbo, a lot more sufficient to boosting hehe.