View Full Version : 328ci Vs 2006 Mustang GT (from the Mustang point of view)


dan4694
12-18-2006, 09:42 PM
The thread title is 328ci Vs 2005 mustang gt under kill stories. It was posted by bimmer328ci (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/member.php?u=54565)

Hey everyone, I saw this thread and thought that it was kinda funny because I'm pretty sure that I was the one in the 2006 Mustang GT... If they thread starter remembers correctly we both slowed down because other cars were looking at some accident on the other side of the road. You then proceeded to pull next to me when i was in 4th gear... I saw you jump so i gunned it in 4th about 45mph (about 2000RPM) (I should have been in second) we stayed even for a while then i started to pull a little around 90. I shut down around 95 and you went by me. I just think its funny that you think you beat me that easily when I started in 4th gear at 45mph (so far out of my powerband it was a joke) If i had started in second I'm positive I could have put atleast 5-6 carlengths on you to 110mph... I've got a 2006 Mustang GT 5speed manual with a Ford Racing Stinger Exhaust. I'm not trying to come in here and start a war, but I just think its BS to think you beat someone when you don't even know the circumstances of the race. To give you an idea of the gearing in my car 3rd gear goes to about 100... and 4th gear will go to about 140... I would love to have a friendly run sometime if you want so let me know.

raceboy614
12-18-2006, 09:48 PM
in a race between a 328ci and a new Mustang GT...i'd definetely put my money on the Mustang GT. I hate to say it..but i'd put my money on the mustang against my car....:violinist :eatpop:

kiley_sean
12-18-2006, 09:49 PM
WOW! The plot thickens!

BavariaMotorist
12-18-2006, 09:51 PM
Before we go anywhere with this, let's make SURE you're the one this guy was talking about.

I'm sure you're not the only mustang GT that raced a 328ci in Cali. Come on now.

raceboy614
12-18-2006, 09:53 PM
WOW! The plot thickens!

suspenseful music :D

stanksbeamen
12-18-2006, 09:53 PM
Meet up and race again! Record it too! Thats pretty sweet gearing 3rd gear to a 100mph...

BavariaMotorist
12-18-2006, 09:54 PM
Meet up and race again! Record it too! Thats pretty sweet gearing 3rd gear to a 100mph...

5 speeds are like that. 6 speeds are different.

dan4694
12-18-2006, 09:55 PM
Before we go anywhere with this, let's make SURE you're the one this guy was talking about.

I'm sure you're not the only mustang GT that raced a 328ci in Cali. Come on now.
Im almost positive that I was the one. He even threw on his hazards down the road when I took the 405 south and he stayed on the 101... which gave me a pretty good laugh.

carrrnuttt
12-18-2006, 09:57 PM
Here's the post he is referring to: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7782797#post7782797

To the OP. You need to realize, that delusions of grandeur come standard with the E36 BMWs. Once you accept it, you can browse this forum and stay sane. You'll still laugh your ass off sometimes, but at least you won't pull your hair out from the things that were and will be posted in here.

carrrnuttt
12-18-2006, 09:58 PM
Before we go anywhere with this, let's make SURE you're the one this guy was talking about.

I'm sure you're not the only mustang GT that raced a 328ci in Cali. Come on now.


Does it matter? The 328 owner actually believes he beat a 2006 Mustang GT with his 190WHP.

dan4694
12-18-2006, 10:02 PM
Here's the post he is referring to:

To the OP. You need to realize, that delusions of grandeur come standard with the E36 BMWs. Once you accept it, you can browse this forum and stay sane. You'll still laugh your ass off sometimes, but at least you won't pull your hair out from the things that were and will be posted in here.
Wrong thread... I can't post URLs but if you do a search with "328ci vs 2005 mustang gt" it is the only one that comes up.

stanksbeamen
12-18-2006, 10:05 PM
5 speeds are like that. 6 speeds are different.

Thanks for the info...

Im almost positive that I was the one. He even threw on his hazards down the road when I took the 405 south and he stayed on the 101... which gave me a pretty good laugh.

haha man, good stuff.

dan4694
12-18-2006, 10:07 PM
Even if it wasn't me that he raced I really want to race this guy.

carrrnuttt
12-18-2006, 10:21 PM
Wrong thread... I can't post URLs but if you do a search with "328ci vs 2005 mustang gt" it is the only one that comes up.

Found it. I guess he was referring to that 'race' in the post I linked to, so I am still partially right. :)

Arctus
12-18-2006, 10:48 PM
328's may not be that fast, but mustangs still suck.

kiley_sean
12-18-2006, 11:05 PM
For your viewing pleasure:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389016
:)


328's may not be that fast, but mustangs still suck.
And right on schedule we have the domestic hatred.

GottaLoveAvus
12-18-2006, 11:10 PM
the 06 mustang will SMOKE a 328 any had hands down(unless FI) cause the mustang and a srt-4 is a goos race an i always race my brothers srt4 an he just keeps pulling from a roll an i was in 2nd an he was in 3rd hahah we were doin 40 to like 100 an he had easy 5,6 cars on me....i was sad hahaha

cemimms
12-18-2006, 11:44 PM
Here's the post he is referring to: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7782797#post7782797
....delusions of grandeur come standard with the E36 BMWs

hah very sad but true....there really is a lot of that around here, i love my e36, but even with two more cylinders (318 - 4 cylinder duh) i dont think it would be a killer by any means

TonysBimmer
12-19-2006, 12:35 AM
Isn't it a foregone conclusion, though, that the 318 will still be driving arounf long after the ford has rotted in the junk yard? Or is that just my biased misperception due to intense hatred of fix-or-repair-dailys?

Man, that was mean, I'm saorry...:nono

Arctus
12-19-2006, 12:44 AM
And right on schedule we have the domestic hatred.

I dont hate all domestics, just mustangs.

stang65
12-19-2006, 01:34 AM
If I’m reading this thread right the guys said that a relatively stock E46 328ci took down a modded 06 mustang gt from a role. I hate to say it but the only way that would happen is like the op said is if he started in the wrong gear. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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I've raced many modded E46 328 and haven’t lost to one yet. I’ve gone up against three mustangs. First was a 97 SVT cobra with about $11,00 put into the engine suspension and drivetrain, he gave me three lengths and had me by about five when we ran out of road. The second was a 97 GT with intake and fart can muffler I beat him. The third one was a 06 GT with x pipe and performance exhaust was a good race went from about a 10mph role and he pulled on me one car until I got to about 3500 rpm and stayed about a car away then I shifted and he pulled about two cars. And then we hit third and I shut down around 100mph he had me by at least four cars. His car sounded sweat I think that the 06 mustang could have kicked my but even more if we kept going. My car gets up and goes but up against a modified V8 just doesn’t have the HP to keep up at the higher speeds.<o:p></o:p>
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BavariaMotorist
12-19-2006, 11:02 AM
Does it matter? The 328 owner actually believes he beat a 2006 Mustang GT with his 190WHP.

Yes it does matter because that would render this entire post pointless.

If you wana complain on the OTHER thread where the 328 owner posted, then do it there.

BavariaMotorist
12-19-2006, 11:13 AM
What thread is this guy referring to? One of the threads is over a year old and the other one says the guy lives in Hawaii...

Dkid96
12-19-2006, 11:18 AM
alright dude, mustangs are cool and so are e36's but could you tell me why a mustang owner is a member of a bmw only forum?

dcroghan
12-19-2006, 11:25 AM
you can't really blame the 328 guy because as far as he knew, you were racing. You were with him all the way to what 120-130? maybe he didn't know the specs of the Mustang? Anyway, I think we would all agree that your car is much faster but there are many people that don't know how to drive a stick. If I raced a moron in a Ferrari and he didn't know how to race it and I beat him I wold say I won because I did!

Its not his fault you didn't downshift. He probably thinks he beat the driver. If you didn't want to lose you should have not raced or you should have taken the extra 1/2 second to downshift and then smoked him. This is what happens when you get lazy or cocky.

Maybe next time you won't be so lazy.:)

Not trying to be mean at all its just the way it is.

kiley_sean
12-19-2006, 11:30 AM
alright dude, mustangs are cool and so are e36's but could you tell me why a mustang owner is a member of a bmw only forum?

Is this the first internet forum you have been on?

This site is about BMWs, but it doesn't state anywhere....ANYWHERE, that you have to own said brand of car to become a member and post.

Driven06Z4M
12-19-2006, 12:01 PM
Mustangs = the SUCK. Sorry but every one of them I have driven handles like pure crap. A Cobra I drove once was the only Mustang that even approached sports car handling and it still sucked for other reasons. Sorry but Mustangs aren't sports cars... they are dragsters at best. I wish Ford would focus less on putting the largest block they can find into a car and more on such minor things as weight distribution, suspension, overall vehicle weight, brakes (BRAKES, BRAKES, BRAKES), fit and finish, and other minor stuff. Then maybe I would think about calling them sports cars.

That all said, I don't believe any 3 series would be able to compete with a V8 GT (with the exception of 335i) in a straight line. However, you throw in a turn or 2 and then everything changes.

BavariaMotorist
12-19-2006, 12:02 PM
Anyone else notice you don't gain post counts by posting in this forum anymore? :D

GMM
12-19-2006, 12:08 PM
Yes yes yes and 328s can beatr E36 M3's i remember that thread

TransporterE38
12-19-2006, 12:40 PM
Meet up and race again! Record it too! Thats pretty sweet gearing 3rd gear to a 100mph...


Thats not so amazing... My Audi TT, gets to 94mph in 3rd gear.

TransporterE38
12-19-2006, 12:42 PM
328's may not be that fast, but mustangs still suck.


I completely agree. :buttrock (Please take offense, I hate all American made cars)

saleen342
12-19-2006, 11:20 PM
328's may not be that fast, but mustangs still suck.

Yeah, but I can still kick your ass. LOL

saleen342
12-19-2006, 11:28 PM
Thats not so amazing... My Audi TT, gets to 94mph in 3rd gear.

And my Cobra get to 119 mph in 3rd gear.

(V)3
12-19-2006, 11:29 PM
Yeah, but I can still kick your ass. LOL



:eatpop:

TonysBimmer
12-19-2006, 11:43 PM
I don't know much, that's for sure. But this is what I have seen:

Copher Bros. U-pull-it, Bradenton, FL
AAA Autoparts, Tampa, FL
Barely Used autoparts, Brandon, FL
Copher Bros. U-pull-it, Zepher Hills, FL
A-Z auto, Sarasota, FL
Big Al's auto salvage, Palmetto, FL

All junk yards I have been to scrounging for parts for my old beaters. In all those places about HALF of the entire property is dedicated to a certain make...Ford. There seem to be more of those there than on the streets. Most of them aren't wrecked. They're like washing machines.


There are usually like two bimmers in those places. Usually one that is over thirty years old, and one that has been torn in half in some kind of accident. I have a putrid loathing for that ford brand, for mechanical reasons and because of some of their dispicable corporate practices. And yes, I did own one, once, when I was young and stupid.

Oh, I'm sorry, I don't really think I have a point to make...

Cheers

.

m3chaser
12-19-2006, 11:50 PM
i would be a fun run for ya but i am all the way over on the other side of the coast.

no way in the world that the 328 would be able to stick with you. now you put you up against card counters lil 2.8 and he would beat you by 100 cls to 140mph, but he also has over 1000rwhp as well.

m3chaser
12-19-2006, 11:51 PM
And my Cobra get to 119 mph in 3rd gear.

i have a question of ya bro, what do you do in the 1/4? just curious is all and is there a difference between the 98 svt cobra and the 99?

SVORLY
12-20-2006, 12:16 AM
328's may not be that fast, but mustangs still suck.

I am going to beat you up at the next OMGWTFBBQ meet.

TransporterE38
12-20-2006, 01:15 AM
I am going to beat you up at the next OMGWTFBBQ meet.


You have the shittiest looking car I have ever seen in a forum. :confused

GMM
12-20-2006, 01:24 AM
You have the shittiest looking car I have ever seen in a forum. :confused
STFU

Svorly is a cool guy

TransporterE38
12-20-2006, 01:26 AM
STFU

Svorly is a cool guy


I have nothing against the guy, I'm just saying that car does look pretty shitty. :)

GMM
12-20-2006, 01:27 AM
I have nothing against the guy, I'm just saying that car does look pretty shitty. :)
He just bought it

His car > Audi tt

jtspells
12-20-2006, 01:33 AM
oh yeah? well i can piss farther than all of you while driving my f50 backwards at over 100mph and driving with my ass cheeks :buttrock



this is really pointless but fun to watch, like a horrible train wreck!!!:devillook

RSF5
12-20-2006, 02:14 AM
SVORLY's sig is absolutely priceless. I like mustangs for straight line speed, my friend has a GT that runs great: In a STRAIGHT line. BMW's are more...balanced.

Arctus
12-20-2006, 02:42 AM
I am going to beat you up at the next OMGWTFBBQ meet.

We'll throw down :alrightbmw

abradic
12-20-2006, 02:51 AM
I don't care for Mustangs, or any domestics for that matter, but that doesn't mean all are useless. I surely did not like the Mustang from the mid 90's up to now. I think they did a nice job with this new one. Although, in all honesty, the best one is the 2003-2004 Cobra. It's a great car with a pretty decent suspension. That engine is bullet proof, the stock block can handle enormous power. That is one I would could live with and own. For all the hype of the new Z06, you can buy a used 2003 Cobra for like $27k, put another a little $$$$ in it (they acutally have a turbo kit for it) and make that an all-world beater.

The only 3 series that will beat the 2006 Mustang is the E46 M3, 335i, or the new V8 M3 (all in stock form of course, and straight line only). What I would like to see is an E36 M3 vs the new Mustang on a track course. The E36 is slightly slower, so it would be interesting to see if the superior handling can overcome the power deficiency.

m3chaser
12-20-2006, 04:26 PM
I don't care for Mustangs, or any domestics for that matter, but that doesn't mean all are useless. I surely did not like the Mustang from the mid 90's up to now. I think they did a nice job with this new one. Although, in all honesty, the best one is the 2003-2004 Cobra. It's a great car with a pretty decent suspension. That engine is bullet proof, the stock block can handle enormous power. That is one I would could live with and own. For all the hype of the new Z06, you can buy a used 2003 Cobra for like $27k, put another a little $$$$ in it (they acutally have a turbo kit for it) and make that an all-world beater.

The only 3 series that will beat the 2006 Mustang is the E46 M3, 335i, or the new V8 M3 (all in stock form of course, and straight line only). What I would like to see is an E36 M3 vs the new Mustang on a track course. The E36 is slightly slower, so it would be interesting to see if the superior handling can overcome the power deficiency.


wait you are talking about strictly stock cars right? or are you talking about modded n/a E36 M3's?

no doubt that with equal drivers and both cars being stock the E36 M3 has not a chance.

abradic
12-20-2006, 05:13 PM
wait you are talking about strictly stock cars right? or are you talking about modded n/a E36 M3's?

no doubt that with equal drivers and both cars being stock the E36 M3 has not a chance.

Just curious, stock for stock, on a track (course, not straight 1/4 mile) how the 2 would do. I know in the straight aways, the 06 Mustang GT would have the advantage, but I wonder if the E36 M3 would be able to overcome it in the turns. The difference between the 2 in the 1/4 mile is roughly .4 seconds, which can be made up in turns. I think the E36 would have a chance to hold it's own in that kind of scenario because the suspension setup, weight, and balance of the Mustang is going to cost it. On a pure straightline red light race, the Mustang will pull, I know that.

saleen342
12-20-2006, 05:48 PM
i have a question of ya bro, what do you do in the 1/4? just curious is all and is there a difference between the 98 svt cobra and the 99?

The best run I had was 13.5 @ 104 mph stock.

saleen342
12-20-2006, 05:50 PM
You have the shittiest looking car I have ever seen in a forum.

Since I used to own 84 320i (which I traded in on a 85 Mustang GT) I would say his sig is correct.

saleen342
12-20-2006, 06:15 PM
Just curious, stock for stock, on a track (course, not straight 1/4 mile) how the 2 would do. I know in the straight aways, the 06 Mustang GT would have the advantage, but I wonder if the E36 M3 would be able to overcome it in the turns. The difference between the 2 in the 1/4 mile is roughly .4 seconds, which can be made up in turns. I think the E36 would have a chance to hold it's own in that kind of scenario because the suspension setup, weight, and balance of the Mustang is going to cost it. On a pure straightline red light race, the Mustang will pull, I know that.

I think the new Mustang GT will hang pretty good and maybe even beat the E36 M3 on the road couse.

The E46 M3 on the other hand would hand the new Mustang GT it's ass on a road couse (this coming from a Mustang fan). Ford did a good job on the Stang for a base price of $25k, but it is an entry level performance car. The driver of an new Stang is going to have to upgrade the suspension and brakes if he wants to hang with the E46 M3 on a road couse.

SVORLY
12-20-2006, 11:13 PM
You have the shittiest looking car I have ever seen in a forum. :confused

You're entitled to your opinion. I disagree, however.

STFU

Svorly is a cool guy

Thanks dawg.

SVORLY's sig is absolutely priceless. I like mustangs for straight line speed, my friend has a GT that runs great: In a STRAIGHT line. BMW's are more...balanced.

This particular Mustang will trounce quite a few BMWs in the twisties as well. SRSLY.

We'll throw down :alrightbmw

:flipa :ninja

stang65
12-21-2006, 07:42 AM
Is that a Svo I cant remember but arent those turbo charged fours

SVORLY
12-21-2006, 04:59 PM
You have the shittiest looking car I have ever seen in a forum. :confused

You know I just read this again and there's really no reason to say something like that about a person's car. I like it. If you don't, that's cool, but there's no reason to be a prick and make a comment like that.

Is that a Svo I cant remember but arent those turbo charged fours

Yes and yes.

bbelt88
12-21-2006, 06:33 PM
The thread title is 328ci Vs 2005 mustang gt under kill stories. It was posted by bimmer328ci (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/member.php?u=54565)

Hey everyone, I saw this thread and thought that it was kinda funny because I'm pretty sure that I was the one in the 2006 Mustang GT... If they thread starter remembers correctly we both slowed down because other cars were looking at some accident on the other side of the road. You then proceeded to pull next to me when i was in 4th gear... I saw you jump so i gunned it in 4th about 45mph (about 2000RPM) (I should have been in second) we stayed even for a while then i started to pull a little around 90. I shut down around 95 and you went by me. I just think its funny that you think you beat me that easily when I started in 4th gear at 45mph (so far out of my powerband it was a joke) If i had started in second I'm positive I could have put atleast 5-6 carlengths on you to 110mph... I've got a 2006 Mustang GT 5speed manual with a Ford Racing Stinger Exhaust. I'm not trying to come in here and start a war, but I just think its BS to think you beat someone when you don't even know the circumstances of the race. To give you an idea of the gearing in my car 3rd gear goes to about 100... and 4th gear will go to about 140... I would love to have a friendly run sometime if you want so let me know.

LMAO...so friekin funny.....
Yah dude, i completely agree with you about posting a kill when you dont know circumstances......a guy on a toyota matrix forum once said he ran me from a roll in his stock 2004 Matrix XRS when i was in my 996 tt.....when i questioned him he stated that he thought i was going because my exhaust was loud....stupid reasoning.....i was making a lot of noise because A. i have over 500 HP and B i was going like 42 MPH in first gear.....

stang65
12-21-2006, 10:37 PM
how hard was it to find that svo they car great track cars.

nice car but I perfer the bimmer for everyday and the 65 mustang for show and go.

mikese36
12-21-2006, 10:47 PM
I completely agree. :buttrock (Please take offense, I hate all American made cars)

Me to!!:alright

s10mafia50
12-22-2006, 03:42 AM
You know I just read this again and there's really no reason to say something like that about a person's car. I like it. If you don't, that's cool, but there's no reason to be a prick and make a comment like that.



Yes and yes.

I wouldn't mind owning an svo myself.....pending which direction you choose, they can be very fast in a straight line....or you can make them handle like no tomorrow. If I ever come across one, I'll buy it....but I'd prefer to get the newer styled headlights. Sweet car:buttrock
Andrew

SVORLY
12-22-2006, 06:41 PM
how hard was it to find that svo they car great track cars.

nice car but I perfer the bimmer for everyday and the 65 mustang for show and go.

They're actually not that hard to find. There were 2 up for sale locally recently and this one was my favorite color so I went after it hard.:alright

I wouldn't mind owning an svo myself.....pending which direction you choose, they can be very fast in a straight line....or you can make them handle like no tomorrow. If I ever come across one, I'll buy it....but I'd prefer to get the newer styled headlights. Sweet car:buttrock
Andrew

Yeah I used to prefer the flush headlights but the recessed are kinda growing on me. They have a very strong 80s look to them.

HiRoller
12-23-2006, 02:08 PM
alright dude, mustangs are cool and so are e36's but could you tell me why a mustang owner is a member of a bmw only forum?

I'm a Mustang owner....but also have a 2003 540i sport

HiRoller
12-23-2006, 02:14 PM
Mustangs = the SUCK. Sorry but every one of them I have driven handles like pure crap. A Cobra I drove once was the only Mustang that even approached sports car handling and it still sucked for other reasons. Sorry but Mustangs aren't sports cars... they are dragsters at best. I wish Ford would focus less on putting the largest block they can find into a car and more on such minor things as weight distribution, suspension, overall vehicle weight, brakes (BRAKES, BRAKES, BRAKES), fit and finish, and other minor stuff. Then maybe I would think about calling them sports cars.

That all said, I don't believe any 3 series would be able to compete with a V8 GT (with the exception of 335i) in a straight line. However, you throw in a turn or 2 and then everything changes.

You obviously know nothing about american muscle cars......ford in particular. The mustang GT has 4.6l engines. 281 cubic inches. THE SMALLEST displacement out of all american V8 muscle cars. They managed to squeeze 300hp out of the smallest american V8.

On a side note, It's nice to see other mustang drivers in this forum

savage217
12-23-2006, 09:18 PM
You obviously know nothing about american muscle cars......ford in particular. The mustang GT has 4.6l engines. 281 cubic inches. THE SMALLEST displacement out of all american V8 muscle cars. They managed to squeeze 300hp out of the smallest american V8.

On a side note, It's nice to see other mustang drivers in this forum

Is that an accomplishment? Bmw can squeeze out 333hp out of a 3.2 liter 6.

dieseldriver99
12-23-2006, 09:55 PM
Nah, best Mustang was '88 Ford Mustang GT Hatchback with Borg-Warner 5-speed tranny, and live-axle, HO engine, kicking butt with 225 BHP with 300 ft.-lb torque baby!
The thread title is 328ci Vs 2005 mustang gt under kill stories. It was posted by bimmer328ci (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/member.php?u=54565)

Hey everyone, I saw this thread and thought that it was kinda funny because I'm pretty sure that I was the one in the 2006 Mustang GT... If they thread starter remembers correctly we both slowed down because other cars were looking at some accident on the other side of the road. You then proceeded to pull next to me when i was in 4th gear... I saw you jump so i gunned it in 4th about 45mph (about 2000RPM) (I should have been in second) we stayed even for a while then i started to pull a little around 90. I shut down around 95 and you went by me. I just think its funny that you think you beat me that easily when I started in 4th gear at 45mph (so far out of my powerband it was a joke) If i had started in second I'm positive I could have put atleast 5-6 carlengths on you to 110mph... I've got a 2006 Mustang GT 5speed manual with a Ford Racing Stinger Exhaust. I'm not trying to come in here and start a war, but I just think its BS to think you beat someone when you don't even know the circumstances of the race. To give you an idea of the gearing in my car 3rd gear goes to about 100... and 4th gear will go to about 140... I would love to have a friendly run sometime if you want so let me know.

dieseldriver99
12-23-2006, 09:59 PM
Mustang is known for gobs and gobs of torque. I used to start out in 4th gear to conserve fuel on my '88 GT 5-speed. Only thing that beat me was a 6-speed Corvette.
in a race between a 328ci and a new Mustang GT...i'd definetely put my money on the Mustang GT. I hate to say it..but i'd put my money on the mustang against my car....:violinist :eatpop:

HiRoller
12-24-2006, 01:57 AM
Is that an accomplishment? Bmw can squeeze out 333hp out of a 3.2 liter 6.

that wasn't my point...try reading the post again. and you arent comparing apples to apples. Those are 2 completely different types of engines.

funfgang
12-24-2006, 10:37 AM
to threadstarter....


now you know...

that if a BMW decides to race you...you MUST give it your all, most likely crush it, then brag about it on your site!

(that seems to be what the BMW people do...)

and dont get me started on 318s...haha...

funfgang
12-24-2006, 10:39 AM
Is that an accomplishment? Bmw can squeeze out 333hp out of a 3.2 liter 6.

but the M3 is pretty maxxed out (short of fi)...the stang can be made conciderably more powerful w/o major work/warrentee killing mods...

LAroadster
12-24-2006, 11:07 AM
Isn't it a foregone conclusion, though, that the 318 will still be driving arounf long after the ford has rotted in the junk yard? Or is that just my biased misperception due to intense hatred of fix-or-repair-dailys?

Man, that was mean, I'm saorry...:nono

LOL, what arrogance, bimmers are plagued with problems; let see, cooling problems, bearing problems, sub frame..............

TransporterE38
12-24-2006, 11:21 AM
Other than the clutch I blew in one of my bmw's ....I never once had a problem with any of them.

BMW5868
12-26-2006, 02:53 PM
Mustang owner - be happy u made somebody else day, laugh because u were stupid, as you say "i took off in fourth @ 45", my dads Buick probably would of smoked you under these circumstance and with him driving - he's 85. So as they say should of, could of, didnt.

dieseldriver99
12-26-2006, 03:02 PM
As I said, 80's Mustangs were nice hot rods. They even came out with supercharger for them. Saleen really used to tune these babys. Especially the '87-90 Mustangs were true muscle cars. BMW and Mustangs are different breeds. Mustangs were designed to go fast straight, whereas the BMWs are designed to go curves fast. Remember, for $14K+ dollars, you can get 225 horsies back in the '80. Your main competition was the Z28/IROC and the Formula, both GM. Now of course, Chrysler really did not compete in this area except for the Charger but...

People who never owned a "Stang" really do not appreciate the simple push rod V8 with 2 valves per cylinder in the $1 per gallon days of the '80s.
You're entitled to your opinion. I disagree, however.
Thanks dawg.
This particular Mustang will trounce quite a few BMWs in the twisties as well. SRSLY.
:ninja

1quik3
12-26-2006, 03:04 PM
My 325 will spank most mustang gts.

dieseldriver99
12-26-2006, 03:05 PM
Okay, what years? Remember, in those days, E30s were prevalent, and older. Besides, Stangs will not race a Bimmer, c'mon... It races Vettes and IROCs ;)
My 325 has beat many of those 'gt' mustangs.

1quik3
12-26-2006, 03:06 PM
Okay, what years? Remember, in those days, E30s were prevalent, and older. Besides, Stangs will not race a Bimmer, c'mon... It races Vettes and IROCs ;)

Well the fox bodies are just a joke. I can beat the 99-04 by about 1cl everytime. I want to race a new gt.

dieseldriver99
12-26-2006, 03:19 PM
Alright, you made your point, but, my Mustang was will kick any car's butt, except for a 6-speed Vette. My Stang but it was a hatchback. Great cars...
Well the fox bodies are just a joke. I can beat the 99-04 by about 1cl everytime. I want to race a new gt.

1quik3
12-26-2006, 04:04 PM
Did you have a blower on it? My dad used to have an 88 GT w/ a blower.Alright, you made your point, but, my Mustang was will kick any car's butt, except for a 6-speed Vette. My Stang but it was a hatchback. Great cars...

HiRoller
12-26-2006, 04:51 PM
Well the fox bodies are just a joke. I can beat the 99-04 by about 1cl everytime. I want to race a new gt.

If you're anywhere near jersey, I'll take you up on that. i have a 2006 gt conv. 4.10's, tune, CAI, exhaust, .......i wouldn't bother unless you're running 12.90's or better

FrankW
12-27-2006, 04:58 AM
nice GT. painted ghost flame? or vinyl?

HiRoller
12-27-2006, 06:31 AM
nice GT. painted ghost flame? or vinyl?

thanks man! it's all paint. PPG light blue Metallic flames.

328iJunkie
12-27-2006, 07:03 AM
Ive had a pretty good run with an 05 stock GT... beat me outta the hole and after about 70 he stayed about 3 CLs in front of me...

The Boston GRUN
12-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Does it matter? The 328 owner actually believes he beat a 2006 Mustang GT with his 190WHP.
thats funny as s:buttrock it i like my bmw but thats crazy

robisconfusedd
12-27-2006, 05:06 PM
reading this thread makes my BRAIN hurt...

ahhhhh i can't believe i actually read all of this, but dang..

I FOR ONE am NOT a cocky 328 owner, i know my car is slow lol(ive raced trans ams, vettes, new GTOs, anything with american muscle, and gotten my ass handed to me in several fragments on all of those occasions.. i only do it for fun not because my car is fast), not as slow as a 318 though, so thats what keeps me happy!

but i definately agree with dcroghan on the last post of the first page, he makes a very good point!!



so have a great new years everyone.

rocketwagon
12-28-2006, 03:08 PM
As I said, 80's Mustangs were nice hot rods. They even came out with supercharger for them. Saleen really used to tune these babys. Especially the '87-90 Mustangs were true muscle cars. BMW and Mustangs are different breeds. Mustangs were designed to go fast straight, whereas the BMWs are designed to go curves fast. Remember, for $14K+ dollars, you can get 225 horsies back in the '80. Your main competition was the Z28/IROC and the Formula, both GM. Now of course, Chrysler really did not compete in this area except for the Charger but...

People who never owned a "Stang" really do not appreciate the simple push rod V8 with 2 valves per cylinder in the $1 per gallon days of the '80s.

...or that they were the last American muscle cars on which the average enthusiast could make significant power gains with relatively little $$$ and some DIY experience. With basically average mechanical experience, except for some wrenching on the POS '60s Ford V8s that were my first cars, I put a new cam, Yates heads, Kenne-Bell "roots" blower, intake, underdrives, did an AC delete, and put a new exhaust on my '86 notchback over the course of maybe a year...on a college student budget. The only thing I didn't do myself was the bore-over. Today...forget it.

As much as I love my Bimmer, a car like HiRoller's GT is always going to be gold standard for me.

madgoal1
12-28-2006, 05:53 PM
thanks man! it's all paint. PPG light blue Metallic flames.


nice stang...your in cherry hill like 20 mins from me if that we should meet up sometime talk cars n bs lol.. i dont wanna run cuz both your cars would be me i only got rouge eng exhaust and conforti intake

HiRoller
12-28-2006, 06:42 PM
nice stang...your in cherry hill like 20 mins from me if that we should meet up sometime talk cars n bs lol.. i dont wanna run cuz both your cars would be me i only got rouge eng exhaust and conforti intake

Cool... you're not too far away at all... I'm actually doing a Saleen S/C over the winter...that should put me at around 450RHP with my tune. I cant waint to have my 11 second street car. I need a s/c so the car is as fast as it looks.

Calypsocoupe96
12-28-2006, 06:46 PM
I have a 1993 Cobra that handles fine thru turns. It's all stock. Bimmers are fine but they are not what I would call a muscle car. They are a road and track type vehicle. Also there is quite a difference in price. It is apples and oranges.

bimmer328ci
12-29-2006, 02:26 AM
wow never thought this topic would come back up... Just to explain against what i raced. It was an 05 mustang gt conv bone stock and i think that it was an auto... The race was in 05 so i know it wasnt an 06. We did a highway run 60-140 it was back and forth until about 120 where my car started to pull away. I know that if i raced from a stop i would have lost but from a high speed highway run i had an advantage.

I dont own the car anymore m3mobbin has it... The old specs were 190whp 200wtq with i never drove the car with a spare or jack so weight would have been pretty low i would think hovering right under 3000

bimmer328ci
12-29-2006, 03:33 AM
Im almost positive that I was the one. He even threw on his hazards down the road when I took the 405 south and he stayed on the 101... which gave me a pretty good laugh.

Sorry i gotta say something to this... The race was in the bay area and i didnt throw on any hazards. I seriously doubt that it was my old car unless somehow i raced a 2006 gt back in early 2005 before you even could get a 06.

rocketwagon
12-29-2006, 09:42 AM
Sorry i gotta say something to this... The race was in the bay area and i didnt throw on any hazards. I seriously doubt that it was my old car unless somehow i raced a 2006 gt back in early 2005 before you even could get a 06.

...and thus we arrive at 4 pages of irrelevance.

BavariaMotorist
12-29-2006, 09:46 AM
If you're anywhere near jersey, I'll take you up on that. i have a 2006 gt conv. 4.10's, tune, CAI, exhaust, .......i wouldn't bother unless you're running 12.90's or better


I thought the GTs had a hood intake as well...

Nice car. What mods?

BavariaMotorist
12-29-2006, 09:59 AM
wow never thought this topic would come back up... Just to explain against what i raced. It was an 05 mustang gt conv bone stock and i think that it was an auto... The race was in 05 so i know it wasnt an 06. We did a highway run 60-140 it was back and forth until about 120 where my car started to pull away. I know that if i raced from a stop i would have lost but from a high speed highway run i had an advantage.

I dont own the car anymore m3mobbin has it... The old specs were 190whp 200wtq with i never drove the car with a spare or jack so weight would have been pretty low i would think hovering right under 3000

Highway speeds are where you would get demolished.