I wasn't sure if I should post this in the last Big Bad SUV's vs. BMW thread but since it's my kill I thought I'd post a new one.

So last night on my way home (on 395 South from DC to Northern VA) I spotted one of the new insanely large Jeep Commander's, captain's or whatever the hell they're called. They were driving in one of the middle lanes at about 80 mph forcing cars in front of it to move over, I mean this guy got right on people 's bumpers with his high beams (looked like his highbeams were on) until the poor person in front of him had to merge over for fear of going blind.

It was at that point that I decided to teach this person a lesson...... Bigger isn't always better and definitely not faster! With a quick flash of the brights to let them know I was there I proceeded to get right behind them and show them how annoying it is to have someone ride your @ss to get you to move.

A few min later and a mile or two down the road The Colonel caught back up and tried to make me blind as well! I casually moved over a lane, let them catch up (they thought they were gonna pass me ;o) and once I saw them glance over it took me just a few seconds to show them my exhaust at about 15 car lengths ahead.

I don't know how far they went down the highway but they never caught back up to me!

Sweet

Wow your pretty cool!

Hm...Maybe there is something about big SUVs and small d*cks after all.

I remember that story about the Tongan Prince and his family being killed when that idiot with the Mustang tried to race a Caddillac ESCALADE on the freeway and forced the Tongan Prince's driver to veer and flip their Ford Explorer killing all occupant.

Usually when I get one of those d*ckless morons behind me, I just squat down and slow down to ~5 mph below speed limit or match speed with the guys next to me in either lane and watch him tried to make space where there is none. And if he hits me...Who cares, my E30 318is is worth about 2 grand, tops. :D

If you want to teach him a lesson, just wait for him at the next gas station (since he'll be needing to fuel up) and give him the "people's elbow".

If you want to teach him a lesson, just wait for him at the next gas station (since he'll be needing to fuel up) and give him the "people's elbow".

Lol! I also love how they think they are so safe in that 'thing', yet let me show you an interested statistic:

-Single-vehicle rollovers (for all vehicles, not just SUVs) cause more fatalities than any other kind of motor-vehicle accident -- one-quarter of all deaths yearly. In 1999, 63 percent of all SUV deaths were in rollovers.

-In 2000, SUVs had the highest rollover involvement rate of any vehicle type in fatal crashes -- 36 percent, as compared with 24 percent for pickups, 19 percent for vans and 15 percent for traffic cars. SUVs also had the highest rollover rate for passenger vehicles in injury crashes -- 12 percent, as compared to 7 percent for pickups, 4 percent for vans and 3 percent for passenger cars.

-A Ford Explorer is 16 times as likely as the typical family car to kill occupants of another vehicle in a crash.


10,657 passenger vehicles were involved in fatal rollover crashes. (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, or NHTSA)
Crashes in which a vehicle rolled over accounted for more than half of all single-vehicle crash deaths. (NHTSA)
Vehicle rollover crashes are especially serious because they so often result in head injuries. Head trauma is the most frequent type of fatal and nonfatal injury in rollovers. (NHTSA)
The rate of serious injury in passenger vehicle rollover crashes is 36 percent higher than in crashes where there is no rollover. (NHTSA)
The high fatality and injury rates are due, in part, to the high percentage of rollover crashes in which passengers are ejected from their vehicles. Ejections account for 63 percent of all fatalities in rollover crashes and often result in costly and debilitating head injuries. (NHTSA)
More than 90 percent of passenger vehicle rollover crashes are single-vehicle crashes, and 8,345 of the 10,142 occupant deaths occurred in single-vehicle rollover crashes. (NHTSA)
More than half, 56 percent, of single-vehicle crash deaths resulted from rollovers compared with only 11 percent of rollover deaths in all multiple-vehicle crashes. (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, or IIHS)suvrollovernews.com/html/facts.html

Lol! I also love how they think they are so safe in that 'thing', yet let me show you an interested statistic:

-Single-vehicle rollovers (for all vehicles, not just SUVs) cause more fatalities than any other kind of motor-vehicle accident -- one-quarter of all deaths yearly. In 1999, 63 percent of all SUV deaths were in rollovers.

-In 2000, SUVs had the highest rollover involvement rate of any vehicle type in fatal crashes -- 36 percent, as compared with 24 percent for pickups, 19 percent for vans and 15 percent for traffic cars. SUVs also had the highest rollover rate for passenger vehicles in injury crashes -- 12 percent, as compared to 7 percent for pickups, 4 percent for vans and 3 percent for passenger cars.

-A Ford Explorer is 16 times as likely as the typical family car to kill occupants of another vehicle in a crash.

10,657 passenger vehicles were involved in fatal rollover crashes. (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, or NHTSA)
Crashes in which a vehicle rolled over accounted for more than half of all single-vehicle crash deaths. (NHTSA)
Vehicle rollover crashes are especially serious because they so often result in head injuries. Head trauma is the most frequent type of fatal and nonfatal injury in rollovers. (NHTSA)
The rate of serious injury in passenger vehicle rollover crashes is 36 percent higher than in crashes where there is no rollover. (NHTSA)
The high fatality and injury rates are due, in part, to the high percentage of rollover crashes in which passengers are ejected from their vehicles. Ejections account for 63 percent of all fatalities in rollover crashes and often result in costly and debilitating head injuries. (NHTSA)
More than 90 percent of passenger vehicle rollover crashes are single-vehicle crashes, and 8,345 of the 10,142 occupant deaths occurred in single-vehicle rollover crashes. (NHTSA)
More than half, 56 percent, of single-vehicle crash deaths resulted from rollovers compared with only 11 percent of rollover deaths in all multiple-vehicle crashes. (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, or IIHS)suvrollovernews.com/html/facts.html

Technically, an SUV IS safer crash wise (in the event of a collison).

The driver is the issue, not the car. Some jackass going 60 through a turn will flip an SUV in the right conditions, but a driver that's consistent and knows the limits of the road and they're car is fine in one.

Either way, they do cause more accidents, just because people are idiots.

Technically, an SUV IS safer crash wise (in the event of a collison).

The driver is the issue, not the car. Some jackass going 60 through a turn will flip an SUV in the right conditions, but a driver that's consistent and knows the limits of the road and they're car is fine in one.

Either way, they do cause more accidents, just because people are idiots.

For whom? It's less safe certainly for those you hit.
I'm under the impression that an SUV is only safer in the event of a non-roll-over collision for the occupants of the SUV. However, since it is susceptible to a higher roll-over rate than other vehicles it proves less safe overall than the average car.

i like suv's for certain uses , but for god's sake drive it like an suv . if you wanted a sports car then you should have bought one . and that goes for you too mr. minivan ...

Question Of The Day:

If you can lead some prat driving an 8000 lb SUV like it's a Ferrari Enzo
into a corner - much like the arsehole in the original post - and they roll
the monster and it kills everyone in the vehicle (and you of course are
fine because you were driving within your limits and actually negotiated
said curve), is it your fault?

Lately I've seen so many minivans speeding and cutting people off. I'm like wtf m8

For whom? It's less safe certainly for those you hit.
I'm under the impression that an SUV is only safer in the event of a non-roll-over collision for the occupants of the SUV. However, since it is susceptible to a higher roll-over rate than other vehicles it proves less safe overall than the average car.

Yea, true. When I have kids (like years and years from now), they're gonna get a good handleing car with side curtain airbags, most likely a BMW.

Maybe an 3--Xi for safety. But they again, I'm gonna buy them shifter carts when they're like 10 so they should be expert drivers. :evil2

Question Of The Day:

If you can lead some prat driving an 8000 lb SUV like it's a Ferrari Enzo
into a corner - much like the arsehole in the original post - and they roll
the monster and it kills everyone in the vehicle (and you of course are
fine because you were driving within your limits and actually negotiated
said curve), is it your fault?

No. It's the SUV driver's fault for having too small of a dick to remember that safety is more important than trying to prove his manhood to a total stranger.

If you want to teach him a lesson, just wait for him at the next gas station (since he'll be needing to fuel up) and give him the "people's elbow".
haha yea chances are people driving like assholes cant bak themselves up out of the car

SUV's wouldnt roll over if people didnt drive them like F1 cars. If you think about it every car is dangerous if the driver is incompitent. I'm not defending SUV's, i hate them too, I'm just saying its more the driver than the vehicle.

SUV's wouldnt roll over if people didnt drive them like F1 cars. If you think about it every car is dangerous if the driver is incompitent. I'm not defending SUV's, i hate them too, I'm just saying its more the driver than the vehicle.

"But I have big rims! Isn't that all I need??":embarrasm

You guys are all stirring up my bitterness the more I read your responses. The thing that pisses me off about GIANT BIG SUVs is that its all about personal safety. Here in the white ghetto called Bellevue, WA where the toughest choice desparate housewives has to make it whether little Tommy is safest in a Chevy Tahoe or Ford Excursion. With over 5000 lbs of metal protecting this precious bundle of joy, the safety of a working-class family in a Toyota Corolla is compromised. Safety must be reserved for the rich.

Someone should supply some comic relief now.

Technically, an SUV IS safer crash wise (in the event of a collison).

The driver is the issue, not the car. Some jackass going 60 through a turn will flip an SUV in the right conditions, but a driver that's consistent and knows the limits of the road and they're car is fine in one.

Either way, they do cause more s, just because people are idiots.


There is a lot more that determines how safe a car is than mass. 500lbs of sound dampening don't make a car any safer. Safety is more based on construction.

SUV's and trucks are built on a ladder-frame chassis that the body rests on top of. The ladder frame is really strong for dispersing a load, but it's not built for safety. It's also the only truly structural part of a car (ever noticed how easy it is to dent a truck? Real). To the sides, it also runs about even with the middle of the seats. So, if you get t-boned, the entire side crushes in to about halfway through your pelvis.

Cars are built with a "safety cage" frame. All those A-Pillars and stuff that can block your visibility? Unless you have a convertible... yeah, they're structural. It's like an egg and spreads the force around.

The safesty cars are well made, largish passenger sedans (BMW 5's & 7's... Camry, Accord, Crown Vics).

The misnomer about SUV's being "safer" in a crash... is that passenger vehicles have to have safety gear to protect people/objects they HIT. SUV's and trucks don't. Additionally all that mass means they do more DAMAGE. So, the SUV does better than the person they hit, not being safer, but by being more dangerous.

Collisions between multiple SUV's are REALLY gnarly.

You guys are all stirring up my bitterness the more I read your responses. The thing that pisses me off about GIANT BIG SUVs is that its all about personal safety. Here in the white ghetto called Bellevue, WA where the toughest choice desparate housewives has to make it whether little Tommy is safest in a Chevy Tahoe or Ford Excursion. With over 5000 lbs of metal protecting this precious bundle of joy, the safety of a working-class family in a Toyota Corolla is compromised. Safety must be reserved for the rich.

Someone should supply some comic relief now.


Don't you mean TIMMY!!!

:buttrock

You guys are all stirring up my bitterness the more I read your responses. The thing that pisses me off about GIANT BIG SUVs is that its all about personal safety. Here in the white ghetto called Bellevue, WA where the toughest choice desparate housewives has to make it whether little Tommy is safest in a Chevy Tahoe or Ford Excursion. With over 5000 lbs of metal protecting this precious bundle of joy, the safety of a working-class family in a Toyota Corolla is compromised. Safety must be reserved for the rich.

Someone should supply some comic relief now.
Okay,, I'll post it here too.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gfpXULqYV7w

Minivans are my biggest rivals, i hate them :mad

Okay,, I'll post it here too.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gfpXULqYV7w


This video states it all!!!! lol:D

Usually when I get one of those d*ckless morons behind me, I just squat down and slow down to ~5 mph below speed limit or match speed with the guys next to me in either lane and watch him tried to make space where there is none. And if he hits me...Who cares, my E30 318is is worth about 2 grand, tops. :D

Or you could do the responsible and polite thing, and move you POS over one lane, avoiding endangering others and road rage. Driving 60 isnt the place to start enforcing you self proclaimed highway patrol badge.

Hm...Maybe there is something about big SUVs and small d*cks after all.

I remember that story about the Tongan Prince and his family being killed when that idiot with the Mustang tried to race a Caddillac ESCALADE on the freeway and forced the Tongan Prince's driver to veer and flip their Ford Explorer killing all occupant.

Usually when I get one of those d*ckless morons behind me, I just squat down and slow down to ~5 mph below speed limit or match speed with the guys next to me in either lane and watch him tried to make space where there is none. And if he hits me...Who cares, my E30 318is is worth about 2 grand, tops. :D

Omg!! Thats funny ive done that before and people start flashing there lights and get really pissed and want to kill you:mad.It gets you mad when it happens to you but when your doing it,its the funniest thing in the world.:stickoutt

Yea, true. When I have kids (like years and years from now), they're gonna get a good handleing car with side curtain airbags, most likely a BMW.

Maybe an 3--Xi for safety. But they again, I'm gonna buy them shifter carts when they're like 10 so they should be expert drivers. :evil2
OMG HI2U















:shifty

suvs vs cars AGAIN

apples to apples people...

furthermore, bmws handle very well in the twisties, why not take someone there for once instead of this ricer-ass braggin rights bs

any dumbass can drive fast

Lol! I also love how they think they are so safe in that 'thing', yet let me show you an interested statistic:

-Single-vehicle rollovers (for all vehicles, not just SUVs) cause more fatalities than any other kind of motor-vehicle accident -- one-quarter of all deaths yearly. In 1999, 63 percent of all SUV deaths were in rollovers.

-In 2000, SUVs had the highest rollover involvement rate of any vehicle type in fatal crashes -- 36 percent, as compared with 24 percent for pickups, 19 percent for vans and 15 percent for traffic cars. SUVs also had the highest rollover rate for passenger vehicles in injury crashes -- 12 percent, as compared to 7 percent for pickups, 4 percent for vans and 3 percent for passenger cars.

-A Ford Explorer is 16 times as likely as the typical family car to kill occupants of another vehicle in a crash.

10,657 passenger vehicles were involved in fatal rollover crashes. (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, or NHTSA)
Crashes in which a vehicle rolled over accounted for more than half of all single-vehicle crash deaths. (NHTSA)
Vehicle rollover crashes are especially serious because they so often result in head injuries. Head trauma is the most frequent type of fatal and nonfatal injury in rollovers. (NHTSA)
The rate of serious injury in passenger vehicle rollover crashes is 36 percent higher than in crashes where there is no rollover. (NHTSA)
The high fatality and injury rates are due, in part, to the high percentage of rollover crashes in which passengers are ejected from their vehicles. Ejections account for 63 percent of all fatalities in rollover crashes and often result in costly and debilitating head injuries. (NHTSA)
More than 90 percent of passenger vehicle rollover crashes are single-vehicle crashes, and 8,345 of the 10,142 occupant deaths occurred in single-vehicle rollover crashes. (NHTSA)
More than half, 56 percent, of single-vehicle crash deaths resulted from rollovers compared with only 11 percent of rollover deaths in all multiple-vehicle crashes. (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, or IIHS)suvrollovernews.com/html/facts.html

Am I the only one here who wears a helmet all the time?:D

"But I have big rims! Isn't that all I need??":embarrasm

"MY ARMS ARE THE SIZE OF YOUR RIMS... 22'S SON... 22'S"

and suv's and truck most likely arent subject to safety of other vehicle laws because most are made in teh US and have been the bread and butter of US vehicle manufacturer sales for the last 20 years... Increasing safety standards costs extra money, and eliminates profits.
(This is just my premonition)