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TransporterE38

12-15-2006, 10:26 AM

When I can afford?

You have ZERO idea of how much money I have, and I could've easily purchased a f*cking TT. Comon man it's a glorified Beetle.

I can talk ALL I want because, unlike you, I actually have stuff to say that isn't a retarded fabrication of my troubled psyche. You obviously have some self image issues, get a councilor and stop posting/making up lame kills about your lame car. My turbo econobox would hand your german sedan it's ass in a race, while simultaneously getting 35mpg.

Also, what kind of lame ass job do you have that allows you to sit at your computer and quickly respond to all that challenge your stupidity? Telemarketer are we?

I doubt you can afford one for several reasons, Your worried about gas mileage. I have never met a person who has a real amount of money that is worried about gas. That shows that you are tight enough with your funds that a major set of gas bills would throw you off balance. Thats a huge and major point. Secondly knowing you, you also bought it partly with mommy and daddy, or better yet like sleepy mommy and daddy gave it to you. :evil2

Like i said, get a real job, buy a real car...and stop worrying about pathetic things like MPG.

TheMossMan

12-15-2006, 10:43 AM

How is this thread not locked? There's no BMW anywhere in sight??????

TransporterE38

12-15-2006, 11:43 AM

sure there is look at my icon, i've owned enough bmws to make your head spin.

FrankW

12-15-2006, 04:59 PM

where's the pics of the exhaust on your car? or your claimed "insurance bill"...

TransporterE38

12-15-2006, 05:18 PM

where's the pics of the exhaust on your car? or your claimed "insurance bill"...

I was busy last night, and im at work right now, since your so excited for it, i'll get them up before 6 for you tonight.

However once they are up? What is that going to prove frank? Are you going to stop accusing me of lying? ...Or are you just going to use to say " oh ok i believe you now, but im still going to bash you" ?

TransporterE38

12-15-2006, 08:06 PM

Here is my exhaust, If i tell you I have a 14 inch dick will you want a picture too? :confused

I'm going to look for my insurance papers for you tonight.

FrankW

12-15-2006, 10:07 PM

BavariaMotorist

12-15-2006, 10:39 PM

Well, it is the FWD version...so it is likely to be a lot lighter than the quattro version which weighs in at under 3000 lbs.

So who knows?

TheMossMan

12-15-2006, 10:46 PM

sure there is look at my icon, i've owned enough bmws to make your head spin.
read the forum rules....

trevordr

12-16-2006, 12:26 AM

Nobody believes you

TransporterE38

12-16-2006, 04:16 AM

:lol ...Borla exhaust...what happened? somebody stole your $2000 exhaust system you claimed you have in the other thread that you got owned.

your APR 209hp crank ECU chip plus the Borla will make your car beat a G35 of any kind....RIIIIIIIIIGHT....I believe you...:rolleyes

Your dumber than shit.

I told you the exhaust system and APR chip together cost $1700 with install. I at no point said $2000 nor did I say anything is missing. Read the fucking muffler. It says borla you dumbass.

TransporterE38

12-16-2006, 04:17 AM

Nobody believes you

No matter what comment you make or suggestion you have.

You drive a fucking corrolla. At no pont will I ever value your comments. You drive a car I wouldn't even drive as a Daily driver...oh wait...thats right my daily driver is a mercedes benz....

NikosX

12-16-2006, 04:20 AM

sure there is look at my icon, i've owned enough bmws to make your head spin.

Dude. Get a life. Nobody cares about your 180hp flattened beetle.

NikosX

12-16-2006, 04:25 AM

You drive a car I wouldn't even drive as a Daily driver...oh wait...thats right my daily driver is a mercedes benz....

Repeat after me. "I do NOT own an AMG car. I do NOT own an AMG car." You can do it...

trevordr

12-16-2006, 04:50 AM

No matter what comment you make or suggestion you have.

You drive a fucking corrolla. At no pont will I ever value your comments. You drive a car I wouldn't even drive as a Daily driver...oh wait...thats right my daily driver is a mercedes benz....

You have to be the most pathetic piece of sh*t on the planet. You own a chop shop 740 that is worth less than my f*cking COROLLA. You also own an uberbeetle, and that somehow makes your opinion worth more than mine?

Let me give you a clue: It doesn't matter what car you drive, what matters is who you are and what you have to offer to the world, and what you have to offer is BS, as evidenced by everything you have said on this forum. When I get out of college I will buy and sell your ass, you should be groveling at my feet, and soon you will. You live in f*ckin SOUTH DAKOTA, the LEAST populous state in the US! Why do you think nobody lives there? BECAUSE IT SUCKS, and only people who can't make it in the real world live there, i.e. you.

Go strum your banjo you f*ckass. YOU ARE THE REASON INCEST IS ILLEGAL

NikosX

12-16-2006, 06:01 AM

Well, I know his TT or Benz or 740i couldnt beat my car so im not too concerned....or maybe they could. LOL!!!

BavariaMotorist

12-16-2006, 11:54 AM

The comments about the corolla guy not having money is ignorant and stupid.

For one, it may be his commuter car and he may commute a lot, so better gas mileage may be a priority of his.

Secondly, NONE OF those facts mean he doesn't have $$. He may have other priorities besides cars, dur.

Third of all, YOU DRIVE A C240 AND AN OLD AUDI TT. YOU'RE NOT BILL GATES DUDE.

I HAVE A C280 SITTING OUTSIDE MY DRIVEWAY AS A LOANER CAR FOR MY SL. Even mercedes doesn't dump 240s on you for loaners cause they know their customers would be like, "WTF IS THIS SUB 30K POS?"

I never insult people for the cars they drive but you're acting like you're Michael Dell with your low end Audi and low end Benz and you need to stfu already moron.

EDIT: Let me comment about you living in South Dakota where the cost of living is so low you could make 40k a year and have enough to buy a maserati. You're nothing special jerk-off

BMW Loe

12-16-2006, 01:12 PM

EDIT: Let me comment about you living in South Dakota where the cost of living is so low you could make 40k a year and have enough to buy a maserati. You're nothing special jerk-off

true story :stickoutt

KarlSpackler

12-16-2006, 01:20 PM

EDIT: Let me comment about you living in South Dakota where the cost of living is so low you could make 40k a year and have enough to buy a maserati. You're nothing special jerk-off

This is very true.

I am ashamed to live in the same state as this guy. Go read his other threads where he claimed to have a supercharger on his 740i.... and when he posted a picture and we asked where the supercharger was.... he pointed to the alternator.

He is truly a moron.

BavariaMotorist

12-16-2006, 03:11 PM

Sorry no offense to SD people but I see none was taken.

trevordr

12-16-2006, 04:15 PM

ding-dong the b*tch is dead

prash

12-16-2006, 04:16 PM

.....he claimed to have a supercharger on his 740i.... and when he posted a picture and we asked where the supercharger was.... he pointed to the alternator.

He is truly a moron.

:rofl :rofl :rofl

TTaM

12-16-2006, 04:30 PM

I call total BS on your "$53" full coverage, so lets see a printed quote. No way in hell it costs that much to insure a TT. Liability alone was $110 for my 325i.
BTW the APR chip is quoted at 209 CRANK hp, so you get 31hp from
exhaust?:rolleyes

P.S. Please leave

Actually, this is the only thing this guy has ever posted that I believe. I bought my TT because it was so cheap to insure. Full coverage for my TT is $1,100 a year, and I am a sinlge male under 25. I was looking at an S2000 and was quoted at $3,200 a year. It was actually $1,150 if I would have gotten the coupe over the roadster.

The rest of the garbage Transporter posts is BS. His little k03 turbo is simply a Golf motor. He is lucky if he can beat a 325 off the line

TTaM

12-16-2006, 04:36 PM

Also, he lives in SD, not some congested CA city. Insurance is likely much cheaper out there.

And his car is FWD, FWD FTL, though once again, cheaper to insure

JThomas

12-16-2006, 04:50 PM

Not sure why I am even posting in this kids thread again ><

I already proved he was full of BS in his other post.

I am not going to bash his cars, I personally like the Audi TT(not much for the benz tho). But the facts speak for themselves.... that audi is not going to smoke a G35, sorry but no dice.

if you really want your Audi to beat the G35, use some of that money you make from your awesome paying job to upgrade the turbo in the car and other supportive mods.

p.s. sorry I just had to do it.... you said you won't claim the mods on your car to insurance because it will raise your insurance to high..... yet you will make fun of a guy who picked a car for better MPG? and you say he is cheap....

TTaM

12-16-2006, 04:58 PM

Not sure why I am even posting in this kids thread again ><

I said the same thing, but I am more posting to quell all the TT bashing, not to support this douche

attack eagle

12-16-2006, 05:42 PM

My friend recently bought an 03 automatic G35.

We had a few good races.

Oddly from a dig the G35 (With cold air intake) would jump about a car length on me. I left my APR on though, im wondering if that would effect anything.

But from a roll 35mph/40mph I just ate the car for breakfast... pulled hard.

This is my 3rd race with a G35 in the past month. This is 100% conformation that G35's can and do loose to a lightly modded TT. :redspot
or a Jetta 1.8t, or a Golf 1.8t, or anything that can turn anywhere near a 14.0 or below.
good kill

attack eagle

12-16-2006, 05:49 PM

BTW the APR chip is quoted at 209 CRANK hp, so you get 31hp from
exhaust?:rolleyes

P.S. Please leave

Sure... it's no biggie to get that much if you are already running high boost and being choked by an exhaust. As a matter of fact sometimes you pick up a couple of PSI, as well as gain more acceleration from a faster spool down low.

I will say this, my brother ran 14.01 and backed it up with a 14.09? in Phoenix on his 03 Jetta 18t after a CAi, chip, "supporting mods", ( the 4 bar Fpr that aud ihas stock, a better DV, Audi N75J, etc and APR exhaust. And yes he used to rape g35s 350zs and Stage II Srt-4s routinely, especially once he went to the ko4 turbo that audi has stock, and a front mount. Well over 24psi I think he was running on pump gas even on the k03... he was limited by having a tiptronic instead of a manual.
I'm guessing basedon it's performance against my DSM that it was a high- mid 13 second car even on the tip, and should have been low 13s or high 12's if he had a manual.
I find nothing wrong with his claim of whooping a G35. They are not fast. They are not quick. Leave the kid alone. Not his fault people with G35s think they are the sh....

BuddyDuddy

12-16-2006, 06:12 PM

Sure... it's no biggie to get that much if you are already running high boost and being choked by an exhaust. As a matter of fact sometimes you pick up a couple of PSI, as well as gain more acceleration from a faster spool down low.

I will say this, my brother ran 14.01 and backed it up with a 14.09? in Phoenix on his 03 Jetta 18t after a CAi, chip, "supporting mods", ( the 4 bar Fpr that aud ihas stock, a better DV, Audi N75J, etc and APR exhaust. And yes he used to rape g35s 350zs and Stage II Srt-4s routinely, especially once he went to the ko4 turbo that audi has stock, and a front mount. Well over 24psi I think he was running on pump gas even on the k03... he was limited by having a tiptronic instead of a manual.
I'm guessing basedon it's performance against my DSM that it was a high- mid 13 second car even on the tip, and should have been low 13s or high 12's if he had a manual.
I find nothing wrong with his claim of whooping a G35. They are not fast. They are not quick. Leave the kid alone. Not his fault people with G35s think they are the sh....

Why defend a deusche? He has yet to say whether it was a sedan or a coupe, is spelling is autrocious=no education, and it is not quick typing he adds letters to words attempting some sort of phonetic spelling all the time, and about his car, lol. A fwd tt is terrible, and I think that will be the first car I have ever ripped on on BFc. PSI is a variable based on many things including turbo size, charge pipes, intercooler and many other things, bringing up psi on a system that is choked every step of the way is retarded and only points out the inefficiences of VW's system(which when not being referenced to 12's I have a lot of respect for.) My roommate had an apr chip, intake, exhaust diverter valve and all it did was light up the front tires, quick car but g35 coupe of any sort should take it. I would expect someone with a dsm too know better, this is not a high flowing turbo system choked by the exhaust, it is choked everywhere starting with the turbo. 24psi spikes on a k03, what was the horsepower? 230 maybe, which exposes the inefficiencies of a k03 at those power levels, it is way out of its efficiency range and blowing hot air. I am skeptical(to be polite) of your quoted drag times for a fwd without slicks automatic jetta. You are not at 240hp, probably around 225 to be generous which will beat a 225 quattro only due to drivetrain loss. One can assume that the lowly g35 automatic is putting out about 198 to the rear wheels and at 225(generous) crankhp the 1.8t would be lucky to get 195, the weight would come into play and it would be a drivers race from a roll and all g35 from a dig.

OP you sound like a poorly educated high schooler, with a different attitude you have some nice cars, with yours you look like a 400lb burn victim at Americas Next Top Model. Flaming people for the cars they have when you obviously have very little knowledge of your own car or others is childish and arrogant. You should take something from these experiences, change your attitude and grow up. You may find yourself with a better job, cooler more interesting friends and a better looking significant other(maybe, just maybe some Quattro too) as you become a more bearable person who isn't constantly exposing his lack of self confidence..Even on the internet.

attack eagle

12-17-2006, 12:12 AM

PSI is a variable based on many things including turbo size, charge pipes, intercooler and many other things, bringing up psi on a system that is choked every step of the way is retarded and only points out the inefficiences of VW's system(which when not being referenced to 12's I have a lot of respect for.) My roommate had an apr chip, intake, exhaust diverter valve and all it did was light up the front tires, quick car but g35 coupe of any sort should take it.

:lol :lol :lol

you say should. :devillook So that means you admit to NOT having ANY factual basis for your rant other than A: bigotry, B: stupidity or C: generally being a know-it-all internet whacker talking out of his arse. You implied I was BS'ing, and I am straight out telling you that you are chock full of misinfo. any more and you'd be banished to Hondahut or neonglowingwing.com.
I've watched the Jetta eat a 350z which is faster than the G35 Sedan or Coupe. I've seen the timeslips on it. 14.01 isn't really that fast, and if you think it's some kind of wow number, you live in a cave. Or you have been around BMWs too long. A monkey can run 14 flat in most any FWD turbo car from 1990 on.
Oh and BTW, compression happens in the turbo, and is measured at the intake manifold. It's a measure of DENSITY not restriction. 9 psi over ambient is 9 psi more dense than ambient.
Period. I don't care if its a t25 or a Gt42R.
You confuse PSI with flow. You also confuse HP with acceleration.

Horsepower is TORQUE x RPM / 5252. HP is by itself meaningless. Would you use a h22 from a prelude in your full size Chevy pickup? why not? they have both have about 190 hp!
Yet another thing you are clueless about.

I would expect someone with a dsm too know better, this is not a high flowing turbo system choked by the exhaust, it is choked everywhere starting with the turbo. 24psi spikes on a k03, what was the horsepower? 230 maybe, which exposes the inefficiencies of a k03 at those power levels, it is way out of its efficiency range and blowing hot air.

:rolleyes

I would expect someone who is criticising someone else's spelling to know how to spell themselves, and how to use better grammar than the OP. :nono

true as far as being out of it's efficiency range at redline, which is why we ended up having to jump thru hoops to get the boost DOWN on it to a reasonable level of 22 psi with creep to 24, even on the ko3S. As far as HP? who cares? No reason to go to a dyno unless you are going to custom tune the car, and we never got that far. It was just a revo chip and basic bolt ons... just a lot of them. PSI is not meaningless,if you know what you are talking about. Flow versus consumption at redline = max boost psi. But if you have low enough consumption IE partial revs you can get a big fat torque increase with a little more PSI, which is still within the turbo's efficiency range.. Torque accelerates cars... not HP. :D

I am skeptical(to be polite) of your quoted drag times for a fwd without slicks automatic jetta. You are not at 240hp, probably around 225 to be generous which will beat a 225 quattro only due to drivetrain loss. One can assume that the lowly g35 automatic is putting out about 198 to the rear wheels and at 225(generous) crankhp the 1.8t would be lucky to get 195, the weight would come into play and it would be a drivers race from a roll and all g35 from a dig.

So you are politely trying to tell me I am full of it, and because I say you are wrong, I must be a liar... :shifty
Once again, you are assuming. You have no factual evidence, you don't even understand turbocharging, and your only reference is your roommate's car that you have never even run. 12 psi on a 9:1 1.8T = 190 crank... given. 12 psi on a 2.0 with 8.5:1 = 210 crank. 16psi on 2.0 with 8.5:1 = 210 at the wheels... So how does adding 50% more boost minimum and upgrading exhaust and intake for increased Volumetric efficiency = only 35 hp? Are you truly that ignorant?
Or do you just have to make inconsistent statements hidden in your ramblings to support your Biased point because otherwise everyone could plainly see that you are full of it, and it isn't the Christmas spirit?
I don't see what is so hard to understand... they both have = aerodynamics, as you said the G only puts down about 198 in a realitively peaky N/a fashion, and we now KNOW that the TT has more power, and a hell of a lot better power delivery curve... It's not that hard to conclude that yes, that TT should eat a G35 alive on the street, and will probably take it in the 1/4 as well, after playing catchup because of the slow 60 foot.

As far as my brother's is concerned
Again I state TIPTRONIC, not automatic. There is a difference, but if you knew anything you'd know that too... @ ko3S not standard ko3, all the supporting mods, which basically turned my brother's jetta into what essentially is a chipped 190TT.

See, there is the difference between us: I know. You assume, you guess, you show your arse in public. The asnine tool here is YOU.
Now please do us all a favor and go have an "It's a Wonderful Life" moment... and yes I mean jump off a bridge. :alright

FrankW

12-17-2006, 03:06 AM

Your dumber than shit.

I told you the exhaust system and APR chip together cost $1700 with install. I at no point said $2000 nor did I say anything is missing. Read the fucking muffler. It says borla you dumbass.

oh yea..my mistake, you said $1800 with install. :lol but that still leaves you what? $1k for the "borla" muffler. LMAO...beating a G35...riiiight...:rolleyes

edit: especially when the tip looks like the stock tip which can only mean you only bought the canister that cost around $200-250 max.

FrankW

12-17-2006, 03:08 AM

attack eagle

12-17-2006, 03:15 AM

a nicely modded Corolla is better than a salvaged title 740il.
That's the truth. salvage title = death for value and desireability.

FrankW

12-17-2006, 03:18 AM

attack eagle

12-17-2006, 04:18 AM

dude, only the old RS4 and the RS6 had K04. stock Audi turbos are all k03.

24psi my ass. a Stage 3 B5S4 on k04 and many other shit only ran 22psi max and I was in that car too.

PLUS a tiptronic with the same mod does not react the same as the manual cars.

edit: forgot to mention the B5S4 was on 100/91 mix.

Ko3S I think in the 225 isn't it? I realize my typing the stock turbo as a ko4 was wrong, sorry. Got missed in proofreading as I was moving sentences around to try and clean up my post.

Did it hit LIMP at 22, or was it the limitation of the turbo... ie it ran more but fell off on the high end... Did you have ecu boost control or run a manual?

I think that maybe the key here... The revo tune was not well fitted to the tip, it had boost creep like a mother F. Enough that I had to run a bleeder in parallel with the j valve to get boost down to a reasonable level so it wouldn't hit limp constantly in first gear or after the shift to second. The ecu simply couldn't control it worth a damn.. It fell to about 21 by redline IIRC. But it would run 24+ in the midrange until it hit limp, and then we stopped the ecu from seeing more than 22 by using a xener diode, just so we could try and physically control it as the ECU wasn't worth a damn, even with the little ko3S.
Pump in Phoenix is either 100 or 91... He may have been running 100 at the track, but he wasn't on the street.

All that aside, a chipped, exhaust, DV's and intaked 1.8t should handily walk a stock g35, It has happened, it does happen. It happens routinely when said G35 driver is not an enthusiast driver. G35 sedans run 15's out here, if they are lucky. Coupes run about 14.6 with a good driver. Most basic chipped 1.8T Jettas and Audi TTs turn mid to low 14s. We are at altitude...
I'll ask him if he has the Timeslip still. I need to get it up on http://www.vwfixx.com/quarter/ anyway for the history books.
And I'll look around for the crazy video I have on disc somewhere of the VDO going off the scale completely on the k04. I don't remember where i hosted it last year.

OH and BTW FRANK: there is an Automatic, then there is a Tip and then the manual. SO on a Jetta you have to spec that it is a tip, not an auto. The auto is a real Kludge.

thanks for your insights, but I honestly could care less about your B5S4 experience. It is irrelevant to the 1.8T.

IN conclusion, OP is telling a factual story. Some people don't beleive it, too bad for them. I do because I know enough not to guess.

FrankW

12-17-2006, 06:12 AM

and you know enough to be wrong.

imagine a manual 225 TT with MTM chip and intake running ONLY even with a G35. Then think of the possibility of the 180 TT with APR chip and a do nothing borla...you get the idea.

there is no difference between the Audi Tiptronic vs Automatic. they're one and the same. The tiptronic is simply a mode that allows you to use the lever or the steering wheel button to change the gear. Same goes for the manual mode for BMW's steptronic. Forgot what year, but the tiptronic was avaiable half way through the year a couple years back for Vdubs, so during that time you can choose either one.

you can read about the B5S4's mod here http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160070 yea, you can also find him on audizine.

you are talking about the 1.8T on the track vs the G35s etc and at altitude. anyone with experience can and will do better than a newbie in a slightly quicker car. However we're talking about the street here especially his story is saying he can blow away the G35 from 35-40mph rolling start. Please....think before you agree to something that stupid especially with this moron's track record on the forum. and BTW, now you are adding on the mods that he DOESN'T have.

TTaM

12-17-2006, 11:22 AM

The TT 225 has a k04

supark

12-17-2006, 03:48 PM

oh sweet jesus not this sh!t again...

BavariaMotorist

12-17-2006, 03:55 PM

Some people just HAVE to argue every little detail.

attack eagle

12-17-2006, 05:01 PM

maybe he didn't, but I know a 1.8t will beat a stock g35 with a few well chosen mods. been there, done that, moved on.

k04
all piping upgraded, DP and catback
Forge DV
Revo Tune in a tip 03 jetta.
Burned the front tires when boost hit under 35 mph
ran a 14.01

then we added a k04 it was uncontrollable, and no one had software for a tip and k04. was nothing but a big problem... was faster until it hit limp but it hit limp every single time you went WOT.
went back to the ko3S so we could get boost back under 22 psi.
evoM FMIC.

Car hauled serious ass above 35. Before 35 it was just a burnout machine.
Loads of fun, and I'd take one over a g35 any day of the week.

TransporterE38

12-17-2006, 06:45 PM

TTaM

12-17-2006, 06:51 PM

Eagle,

Give me a couple hours, I just raced my friend in his G35 again.

We took a video this time. From a roll, with my ASR off, on 93 octane gas..and shifting at 5300rpms (k03 doesn't hold turbo as well as ko4) ... i beat him again.

This will shut alot of these know it alls up
:redspot

Video for proof? I think that is the only way you are going to get anyone to shut up...

OH, and it is called ESP in the TT...

TransporterE38

12-17-2006, 06:55 PM

No, on a FWD. Its called ASR.

TransporterE38

12-17-2006, 06:57 PM

http://www.audi.co.uk/audi/uk/en2/tools/glossary/chassis_body/traction_control__ASR_.html

TransporterE38

12-17-2006, 07:03 PM

I went over the video the stupid camera is pointing at the sky, we'll race again this week and i'll put a video up.

trevordr

12-17-2006, 08:05 PM

trevordr

12-17-2006, 08:06 PM

I went over the video the stupid camera is pointing at the sky, we'll race again this week and i'll put a video up.

Where is your insurance quotes? Didn't you say it was a "very true" quote, and that you were going to post it?

Oh, and more to the point, why are you still here?

trevordr

12-17-2006, 08:11 PM

Also, he lives in SD, not some congested CA city. Insurance is likely much cheaper out there.

And his car is FWD, FWD FTL, though once again, cheaper to insure

I suppose it could be possible, but judging from everything he has said before I think it unlikely that he is telling the truth. Regardless of whether he is or not, he needs to leave.

attack eagle

12-17-2006, 09:03 PM

You know nothing about 1.8t's. It is utterly IMPOSSIBLE to run 24psi on a stock K03 turbo, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. My friend has a chipped 1.8t jetta and that thing isn't getting near a G35. MY CAR, which walks chipped 1.8t's with i/e easily, get's walked by G35s, and I weigh 2700lbs and have at least 200whp, more than this guy with his 209 crank. Get a clue, G35s are fast, they are quick, and they do walk cars with half their displacement
You don't know anything about 1.8Ts.
tell you friend to get a clue and fix his car. He should be able to run very low 14s. Then learn to drive yourself. I didn't say stock k03, i said ko3S. 24 psi and falling near redline. We are at 3,000 feet and I think the adjusted height is usually hovering in teh 5k ft range out here. What it is in Phoenix i have no idea, but I knw that cars usually run within .1-.2 of their times between here and phoenix.

The tables may be turned at sea level, I will give you that, But to say a chipped 1.8t can't beat a G35 is just silly. Most g35 owners can't drive worth a SH... and that could be why the OP is winning. Also earlier G35s were slower than the 06 models, again a variable. Older 1.8ts are slower than the 03+ ones. His friend could have an auto sedan, in which case I would expect it to lose.

In anycase thia ia way to drawn out over a kill story. Who cares how many cars you cream anyway? If you aren't turning 12's or faster you are still slow.

m thrizl

12-17-2006, 09:10 PM

ko3 sport = WEAK SAUCE. the chipped ko4(the awd TT's) are pretty quick, never driven a 1.8t ko3 that was the least bit impressive...about as impressive as a g35 automatic.

how much is insurance on a awd tt? if its not too much more you should consider selling and upgrading. i only mention this cuz you said something about buying an expensive bigger turbo kit-waste of money....unless you like torque steer?. the awd tt has forged internalls, your 1.8t fwd is weaksuace, they down gradeded the quality of the motor so as not to continue wasting money to "over engineer" it as it had been when the 1.8t first came out

it will take a minimum of a ko4 running 25 pounds to start whoopin up on stock/slightly modded e36 m3's, and it would take almost blowing up your engine to start walkin on e46 m3's. the 1.8t's are great motors, my roomate has a aniv gti with a ko4 and a bunch of goodies, its pretty quick, but worthless in a front wheel drive car

attack eagle

12-17-2006, 09:18 PM

I agree... but when all a k04 does for you is throw you into limp because the ecu can't keep boost down on a 10+ second WOT, you have to go back to the smaller turbo.

m thrizl

12-17-2006, 09:27 PM

No, on a FWD. Its called ASR.

esp is optional and is not so much a traction device as it is a stability control, pitch/yaw//steeering wheel angle sensors, pretty much worthless since it is only good upto 24 mph. asr and edl are standard on all vw/audi 1.8t's.

m thrizl

12-17-2006, 09:29 PM

I agree... but when all a k04 does for you is throw you into limp because the ecu can't keep boost down on a 10+ second WOT, you have to go back to the smaller turbo.

nah,. my buddy runs his gti with a ko4 running 22 pounds, peaking at 25 or so wioth stock intercooler, no limping, runs pretty consistant unless its a really hot day.

NikosX

12-17-2006, 09:32 PM

No, on a FWD. Its called ASR.

No, on a FWD, its called: "Who gives a shit?"

TransporterE38

12-17-2006, 10:38 PM

No, on a FWD, its called: "Who gives a shit?"

LOL,

Back to the g35.

From a dig a g35 is of course going to win on average (In manual mode for the G35, in auto its a toss up), Because the TT isn't spooling at all when stopped. (basically a v4 vs a performance v6) .If you do hold the rev your going to spin. However from a roll 20mph...your turbo is fully spooled. A turbo v4 fully spooled is going to womp a g35 AUTO.

Keep in mind if you know how to drive your k03 turbo. (Knowing it doesn't hold boost at high rpms) you can shift early 5300/5500 rpm your going to hit your boost peaks faster and quicker.

Do your homework the G35 doesn't hold as a faster car. Even. but not faster. even if it is a little faster it really truly is a drivers race. (Primarily for the TT owner).

Just face up, I'm a better driver than you (turbo corrla) :buttrock

prash

12-18-2006, 01:03 AM

LOL,

Back to the g35.

From a dig a g35 is of course going to win on average (In manual mode for the G35, in auto its a toss up), Because the TT isn't spooling at all when stopped. (basically a v4 vs a performance v6) .If you do hold the rev your going to spin. However from a roll 20mph...your turbo is fully spooled. A turbo v4 fully spooled is going to womp a g35 AUTO.

Keep in mind if you know how to drive your k03 turbo. (Knowing it doesn't hold boost at high rpms) you can shift early 5300/5500 rpm your going to hit your boost peaks faster and quicker.

Do your homework the G35 doesn't hold as a faster car. Even. but not faster. even if it is a little faster it really truly is a drivers race. (Primarily for the TT owner).

Just face up, I'm a better driver than you (turbo corrla) :buttrock

Dude, your car, like every 1.8, is a in-line (read: straight) four. Not a V4.:confused

TransporterE38

12-18-2006, 01:47 AM

Dude, your car, like every 1.8, is a in-line (read: straight) four. Not a V4.:confused

Sorry,

For those of you out there who are car guys.

an engine with 4 pistons 1.8L vs a engine with 6 pistons 3.2 L.

NikosX

12-18-2006, 02:34 AM

Sorry,

For those of you out there who are car guys.

an engine with 4 pistons 1.8L vs a engine with 6 pistons 3.2 L.

Actually "car guy" the G35 is a 3.5 L V6. Hence the notation G 35.

Get a life and a few more cylinders. Then well talk about fast cars.

Nick

attack eagle

12-18-2006, 02:43 AM

nah,. my buddy runs his gti with a ko4 running 22 pounds, peaking at 25 or so wioth stock intercooler, no limping, runs pretty consistant unless its a really hot day.
5 speed or Tip?

We came to the conclusion that 5 speed ECU programming is a non viable solution in a Tip car because of Creep, and no one makes a k04 program because you'd be right at the torque limit of the tranny.
when a 1 bar program is giving you 1.5 bar or more on a ko3S... well it isn't doing a good job controlling boost. Adduing the k04 made it worse.
If it were a manual, where each WOT incident is a fraction of the time the Tip spends at WOT, it probably would have been fine with no creep issues.

FrankW

12-18-2006, 06:33 AM

Dude, your car, like every 1.8, is a in-line (read: straight) four. Not a V4.:confused

LMAO...the more he posts the dumber he gets.

btw, eagle, I'm checking up with my friend with the B5S4 that totally kicked my ass on how much boost he was running when he blew the k03 on his S4 (I'm pretty sure it's lower than 22psi which he's running on the k04). As for now I'm calling BS on 24psi on k03 with just CAI, DP, exhaust, on an AUTO Jetta 1.8t.

FrankW

12-18-2006, 06:51 AM

LOL,

Back to the g35.

From a dig a g35 is of course going to win on average (In manual mode for the G35, in auto its a toss up), Because the TT isn't spooling at all when stopped. (basically a v4 vs a performance v6) .If you do hold the rev your going to spin. However from a roll 20mph...your turbo is fully spooled. A turbo v4 fully spooled is going to womp a g35 AUTO.

Keep in mind if you know how to drive your k03 turbo. (Knowing it doesn't hold boost at high rpms) you can shift early 5300/5500 rpm your going to hit your boost peaks faster and quicker.

Do your homework the G35 doesn't hold as a faster car. Even. but not faster. even if it is a little faster it really truly is a drivers race. (Primarily for the TT owner).

Just face up, I'm a better driver than you (turbo corrla) :buttrock

no shit smart guy...name 1 turbo car that's spooling at idle. :rolleyes you can spin the wheel launching at 2000rpm? short shifting makes you go faster is the stupidest thing i've heard.

and NO, from a roll where the weight advantage of the TT is taken away a car with more hp and torque will walk away.

TransporterE38

12-18-2006, 08:49 AM

no shit smart guy...name 1 turbo car that's spooling at idle. :rolleyes you can spin the wheel launching at 2000rpm? short shifting makes you go faster is the stupidest thing i've heard.

and NO, from a roll where the weight advantage of the TT is taken away a car with more hp and torque will walk away.

Obviously you've never driven a TT then. When you loose boost you shift, cause then your back in your boost peak...

when you can go 64 mph in second gear (redline) and 94mph in 3rd gear...shifting early is still by far better than most cars period.

so yes...it works quite well if your not holding boost the whole way.

read up punk.

MotorWerkz

12-18-2006, 10:44 AM

man ...

I bet this is gonna get locked anytime soon

this is even worse than M3 vs 350z threads.

bimeralex

12-18-2006, 05:25 PM

i did mess up on filming last time,,
how about we race tonight Transporter and video record it?
0-90 and we will do from roll,,,whatever speed you choose..

TransporterE38

12-18-2006, 05:44 PM

i did mess up on filming last time,,
how about we race tonight Transporter and video record it?
0-90 and we will do from roll,,,whatever speed you choose..

I'm up again bimmerlex.

You can use my real name :)

Dude, I flipp'n cant believe that Mercedes tried to race us yesterday :) That old man was so cool! :alright

TreeFiddyZee

12-18-2006, 06:00 PM

It would probably be for the best if you would just stop posting on the forum, just when i think you can't possibly be made into more of a fool, you keep posting thread after thread.

TransporterE38

12-18-2006, 06:12 PM

It would probably be for the best if you would just stop posting on the forum, just when i think you can't possibly be made into more of a fool, you keep posting thread after thread.

heres the thing, I dont care. I do this for entertainment. like it or not. :stickoutt

KarlSpackler

12-18-2006, 06:23 PM

i did mess up on filming last time,,
how about we race tonight Transporter and video record it?
0-90 and we will do from roll,,,whatever speed you choose..
Hey Alex, whatever happened to you coming over here to kick my ass?
heres the thing, I dont care. I do this for entertainment. like it or not. :stickoutt

You know zero about cars...

"A V4 " :rofl
"3.2L" :rofl
"Supercharged 740??? " :rofl

You might be alright in person, but you come across as an absolute idiot online.

TransporterE38

12-18-2006, 07:23 PM

Hey Alex, whatever happened to you coming over here to kick my ass?

You know zero about cars...

"A V4 " :rofl
"3.2L" :rofl
"Supercharged 740??? " :rofl

You might be alright in person, but you come across as an absolute idiot online.

I might, but who cares? will you ever meet me? Will I ever know you? No.

Forums are for amusement, obviously in a racing forum for some more than others.

I've watched from aside in many threads in this room, there are several un-named people who never post kills or start threads, yet tell everyone where there wrong and how they're right.

I dont care how I come off, I have fun debating things. Even if i know flat out im wrong, somethings I say just to see what others say.

Enjoy your night.

BavariaMotorist

12-18-2006, 07:25 PM

Well, I think that undeniably reveals mild mental retardation, transporter.

If you aren't good at arguing, don't argue when you're wrong.

bimeralex

12-18-2006, 07:40 PM

Hey Alex, whatever happened to you coming over here to kick my ass?

.

that can be easily aranged:) just let me know when your in town..

attack eagle

12-18-2006, 07:41 PM

you can spin the wheel launching at 2000rpm? short shifting makes you go faster is the stupidest thing i've heard.

and NO, from a roll where the weight advantage of the TT is taken away a car with more hp and torque will walk away.

That's fine Frank, I know what I saw. ID don't expect you to believe it, and don't really care if you do. I will tell you if you go do the math on it, you will find out that ko3s is more than capable of blowing that much in midrange rpms though it won't hold to redline.

Shortshifting:
You must not be used to driving cars with too small turbos.
On a t25 dsm you always shift out at around 5200, not 7500 because the turbo falls to 11 psi then. It's faster by a long shot to use the torque to accelerate the car.

I dunno about him but I was witness to a glorious hundred yard burnout from my brother's jetta, and it was being brakeboosted. I also used to spin all 4 by launching at 3k. And I used to spool a evo III at 2500 when brake boosting on a roll. that's a 43 lb min turbo on a 2.0. you can spool a ko3s by 2k easily.

TransporterE38

12-18-2006, 07:47 PM

Well, I think that undeniably reveals mild mental retardation, transporter.

If you aren't good at arguing, don't argue when you're wrong.

Mental retardation?

Do you even know whats even considered mental retardation?
Sure as hell isn't not understanding cars. :stickoutt
The fact that some of the people on here fight everything shows a lack of there own ignorance....dont you ever fuck with people just do see what they do?

I think i'd be more considered an asshole than a retard.

BavariaMotorist

12-18-2006, 07:49 PM

TransporterE38

12-18-2006, 07:54 PM

That's fine Frank, I know what I saw. ID don't expect you to believe it, and don't really care if you do. I will tell you if you go do the math on it, you will find out that ko3s is more than capable of blowing that much in midrange rpms though it won't hold to redline.

Shortshifting:
You must not be used to driving cars with too small turbos.
On a t25 dsm you always shift out at around 5200, not 7500 because the turbo falls to 11 psi then. It's faster by a long shot to use the torque to accelerate the car.

I dunno about him but I was witness to a glorious hundred yard burnout from my brother's jetta, and it was being brakeboosted. I also used to spin all 4 by launching at 3k. And I used to spool a evo III at 2500 when brake boosting on a roll. that's a 43 lb min turbo on a 2.0. you can spool a ko3s by 2k easily.

I'm not saying this becase you agree with me, or disagree withothers...however you seem to be the only other person in here that understands how to drive. :)

Seriously, you can give any idiot with a few bucks an M3 or even a Honda STI....doesn't mean they're going to drive it correctly.

However you can give a solid driver a medium to somewhat fast car and see amazing performance just because of driving skills.

Fact of life. I'm not saying my car is the fastest car in the world, but because I actually know how to drive.... I can out drive most cars who are faster on paper just because they aren't being driven correctly.

Who even says out of alllllll these races I've posted are just straight aways... not everyone who races is a drag queen like some of the people in here.

rick'sm3

12-18-2006, 08:10 PM

TransporterE38

12-18-2006, 08:36 PM

FrankW

12-18-2006, 08:36 PM

That's fine Frank, I know what I saw. ID don't expect you to believe it, and don't really care if you do. I will tell you if you go do the math on it, you will find out that ko3s is more than capable of blowing that much in midrange rpms though it won't hold to redline.

Shortshifting:
You must not be used to driving cars with too small turbos.
On a t25 dsm you always shift out at around 5200, not 7500 because the turbo falls to 11 psi then. It's faster by a long shot to use the torque to accelerate the car.

I dunno about him but I was witness to a glorious hundred yard burnout from my brother's jetta, and it was being brakeboosted. I also used to spin all 4 by launching at 3k. And I used to spool a evo III at 2500 when brake boosting on a roll. that's a 43 lb min turbo on a 2.0. you can spool a ko3s by 2k easily.

you're right...i don't drive my 1.8T Beetle much even thought it's suppose to be my daily driver. lol

LOL, I honestly don't know why you're still referring to "k03S". I'm arguing based on what you first said your brother's car was running 24psi peak on "k03". If you want to argue you should've clarified that he had the k03S, not the regular k03. And like I said your brother's jetta seems to have a lot more mods than just "CHIP and EXHAUST" if it can do 14 flat. check out dragtimes.com all the TTs that are under 14sec all have extensive mods. Perfect example would be the 180HP TT's 13.6sec which has APR stage 3 setup 22-24lbs of boost with also tranny mods. Stock G35 sedan even with automatic can run low 14's.

Most 180 quattro TT run 14.8-14.9 ish with only chip and intake. you want me to believe that FWD 180 TT that needs to fight for traction even tho it loses few lbs from not having to drive the rear wheel will shave nearly 1 second from the 1/4 mile run? :rolleyes

1 sec of 1/4 mile time advantage usually = to 50+HP/TQ advantage or massive amount of weight difference or you're running drag radial on the front.

SurfdogCP

12-18-2006, 09:01 PM

attack eagle

12-18-2006, 11:11 PM

This thread is going no where.. i don't want to add to that but i had to because AttackEagle, or whatever, is completly wrong, first off, running a 14.. isn't wow but bring your 525I out and we'll see who runs a 14, also when you say a few mods in a tt 1.8 will beat a G35 i was expecting you to say chip, exhuats and some other bolt on minor stuff, not swapping out the turbo for a K04 that's pretty major, and for christ sake a few key mods in my car could beat a vet, lets slap a k04 on my m3 and boos the hell out of it, bottom line you mod anything it will be faster then the other guy, but this guy had an exhuats which hadds barely anything, trust me i would know, my friend has an s4 with an exhaust and he regrets wasting the money for 4 extra hp. if anything the chip does most, but no way in hell this asshole beat a g35 sedan for that matter.... my 2 cents

WE were refering to AUDI there Frank, and they have the KO3s stock. I didn't feel I needed to mention that the Jetta had a ko3S, using just k03 because we were using it as an example of the performance you can get out of the 1.8t in a smilar sized vehicle, and chipping a Jetta correctly basically entails converting it to Audi spec, and replacing the damn leaky DV. (ie my reference to Supporting mods making it practically identical to the audi.) I didn't even realize that you were reading it as normal ko3, and To be honest I din't even think about it since that turbo was only on there for break in before it got swapped out to a ko3S. Anyone who bothers to chip a 1.8t without replacing the DV is just wasting time as it becomes a boost leak at higher boost level the chips can provide. And boostleak = running over rich and losing power. Part of the reason that chip only or chip and intake only cars run so poorly.

Everyone keeps saying maybe 190 at the crank, maybe 190 to the ground... simple fact is they generally do a lot more... especially in terms of torque... torque accelerates cars, not HP.

Here's just one thread with several dynos about the ko3s... as you can read they had the same overboost problem we did, and the same difficulty getting the car to put down 22 max without overboosting up to 24... many others have run similar 190 + hp with 250+ torque out of the ko3s.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?&id=1264252

Mr rick's M3
What's your quarter mile time? I hope you are mid 13's or else you shouldn't be talking.

Boy, you are completely misunderstanding me... the jetta never turned a time on the k04 because it couldn't make it out of 2nd without hitting limp. The end. You could not give it WOT on the ko4 because it'd hit limp from the overboost. Only on the k03S could we control it enough to be able to make a run. The k04 was on there for a couple of months before he said to hell with it, yanked it off and went back to the ko3S. BTW the k04 is still sitting in his tool box from january with about 1500 miles on it if anyone wants one. He doesn't have a jetta anymore, he just got an 850R.
Swapping out to a k04 isn't MAJOR btw it's still a little turbo... it's not much more power than a k03S in most cases, maybe 15 hp... Swapping to a Garrett is major.

Every time I drove it was on the k03S. And eventually it did have all piping upgrades, FMIC etc, but it never got to the track with the FMIC, and/or the k04. As a matter of fact I'm not even for sure that the 14.0 was after the exhaust upgrade. I'm pretty sure it was, but it may not have been.
For the record, he will be here for Christmas so I will clarify all the details of exactly what was on the car at the time of said timeslip.

My 525iT might clock a 18.... LOL. I know it's slow, that's why I bought it. So's an M3 though when it comes to drag performance... around here if you want to be competitive with even fast 4 cylinder street cars, low 13s -mid 11's are what is required. Or else some kid in a $2k stripped & motorswapped Honda or someone with a bolt on Evo 8 running low 12's will whoop ya. OR someone with a 11 second Sti will rape you. That's no BS, that's what is out here, adn that is what "fast" is. Back home in small town Mississippi on the other hand, anything in the 13's was considered fast.
I didn't need a fast car anymore, at least not one that would do 0-60 in sub 6, sub 2.0 60 foot and physically topped out at a rev limited 167mph. IT was too much performance (i kept finding myself doing over 100 up onramps), and not enough room for a guy who now had a wife, a 3 year old son and another kid on the way. Time to grow up and be practical... with class.

I did have a 5 speed DSM AWD with a Ross pistoned 6 bolt, EVO III, all hard piping, FIPK, greddy S, fidanza flywheel, ACT 2600, RRE DP, 3" cat, and Apex'i Dunk cat back. I bought that DSM when i was single, and all it had was a catback for years. It was an overkill build for 16 psi DD, the wife wouldn't drive it at all, and it was useless for driving highspeed 8-16 hour trips because of the noise... I realized I would never ever finish it, because I would always find something else (toys, clothes, vacations) to spend my money on. and it was never going to be competitive unless it stopped being streetable. Better it go to some young buck who has nothing better to spend his money on and will finish it.

Maybe the OP didn't kill a g35, maybe it wasn't a true kill, but I have seen a Jetta do it on the street. Repeatedly. And the thing to remember is that 1/4 mile is just one measurement, but once you knock off the standing start and the first 30-40 mph as in the normal rolling start street race having more torque can make a big difference. Most people that are losing by 75-80 mph shut it down and don't continue to 120. It's easier to kill a similar 1/4 mile time N/A car on the street than on the track. Especially if the driver of the g35 doesn't start right in his powerband but the Turbo driver does.
THAT is why i find it logical that mr Audi guy could have killed a G35.

FrankW

12-19-2006, 01:03 AM

Maybe the OP didn't kill a g35, maybe it wasn't a true kill, but I have seen a Jetta do it on the street. Repeatedly. And the thing to remember is that 1/4 mile is just one measurement, but once you knock off the standing start and the first 30-40 mph as in the normal rolling start street race having more torque can make a big difference. Most people that are losing by 75-80 mph shut it down and don't continue to 120. It's easier to kill a similar 1/4 mile time N/A car on the street than on the track. Especially if the driver of the g35 doesn't start right in his powerband but the Turbo driver does.
THAT is why i find it logical that mr Audi guy could have killed a G35.

again. this is the guy who's only mod is an APR chip and a borla muffler. I think the OP said it was done from a 20mph roll. It's not 40mph or 50mph that you have to think about where you want the rev be in the powerband before taking off. 20mph = 1st gear stump and go.

20-30mph acc to 75-80 is not even a street race. i'm barely finishing up my 2nd at that speed. LOL

attack eagle

12-19-2006, 01:19 AM

True... I agree! I should have added quotes "kill"
3rd used to take me north of 90 in the AWD. 2nd was only good to about 60.

I've learned that things that kids say, don't always mean what they used to 10-15 years ago though.

Race =accelerating hard next to another car that also accelerates (note I didn't say Hard or even also contesting)

Kill = being in front when you stop contesting speed. Whether that be traffic, running out of road, running out of balls, whatever.

Ricer Flyby = when you quit while you are ahead because you are about to lose and the guy blows past you.

Stock = made by same manufacturer... Ie "my stock honda hatch with a header intake and exhaust runs xx.xx". But it has slicks, a Honda h22 and a type R tranny in it and is stripped more bare than paris hilton in a home movie...

Tuned= drives real fast in traffic.

Daily Driver= capable of driving from point a to b without blowing up, most of the time. Can even put regular tires on it.

High Boost = anything more than wastegate

Intake = replacing a plastic tube with a metal one and a enclosed filter with an open one.

Apparently exhaust = muffler swap now too.

:)

I was "raced" and "KILLED" by a lot of cars I paced...

KarlSpackler

12-19-2006, 02:36 AM

Mental retardation?

Do you even know whats even considered mental retardation?
Sure as hell isn't not understanding cars. :stickoutt
The fact that some of the people on here fight everything shows a lack of there own ignorance....dont you ever fuck with people just do see what they do?

I think i'd be more considered an asshole than a retard.

Lol... I know what Mental retardation is... attack eagle.
Chirst, who spends THAT much time on each post. They are like 8 paragraphs long (If you used them)
Mental Retardation = IQ<75 ..... Proud college grad here. :D
that can be easily aranged:) just let me know when your in town..
:thumbup:
I might, but who cares? will you ever meet me? Will I ever know you? No.

Forums are for amusement, obviously in a racing forum for some more than others.

I've watched from aside in many threads in this room, there are several un-named people who never post kills or start threads, yet tell everyone where there wrong and how they're right.

I dont care how I come off, I have fun debating things. Even if i know flat out im wrong, somethings I say just to see what others say.

Enjoy your night.

I agree with you. It is fun to a point. Look @ attack eagle. He has spent HOURS responding to you... I find that funny lol.

But you can only go so far, and well.... You dont have a good past on Bf.c my man.

NickA325is

12-19-2006, 03:28 AM

Noone else noticed that he put Honda STI???:eek:

an204421

12-19-2006, 05:43 AM

Noone else noticed that he put Honda STI???:eek:

Yeah there new, its like an awd civic that puts out 1000 hp and runs 8's. :D

BMW Loe

12-19-2006, 09:09 AM

fun guys,

Alex, I think I may still have NGK Iridium's from my G35 if you want them. Used for less than 2,000miles. I have no use, PM me if you want them (for free of course). Just give me time to dig through my garage.

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 10:26 AM

:buttrock Lol... I know what Mental retardation is... attack eagle.
Chirst, who spends THAT much time on each post. They are like 8 paragraphs long (If you used them)
Mental Retardation = IQ<75 ..... Proud college grad here. :D

:thumbup:

I agree with you. It is fun to a point. Look @ attack eagle. He has spent HOURS responding to you... I find that funny lol.

But you can only go so far, and well.... You dont have a good past on Bf.c my man.

I'll never have a good " name " on this board ever...but i've found many hours of entertainment and oddly made a few good friends from this forum...some people laugh and understand sometimes im just messing around...and others...well they get all worked up ...and get there underwear in a bunch...

Either way ...I still get a good laugh. I'm sure you have from time to time as well. :redspot

Dubbedown

12-19-2006, 02:06 PM

I'm up again bimmerlex.

You can use my real name :)

Dude, I flipp'n cant believe that Mercedes tried to race us yesterday :) That old man was so cool! :alright

wtf?

silver g

12-19-2006, 02:27 PM

:buttrock

I'll never have a good " name " on this board ever...but i've found many hours of entertainment and oddly made a few good friends from this forum...some people laugh and understand sometimes im just messing around...and others...well they get all worked up ...and get there underwear in a bunch...

Either way ...I still get a good laugh. I'm sure you have from time to time as well. :redspot

So basically you are admitting you're full of sh!t?

Lightly modded (nothing more than intake and exhaust) 03-04 G35's are running about 235-239whp on the dynos depending on wether AT or MT. My friend with an 04 5AT with HKS exhaust and Stillen CAI dynoed at 236whp 2 weekends ago at the AMS Dyno Day. The 06 G35's with the RevUp motors are at 240-245whp depending on AT or MT. Unless your car is putting down anywhere close to 230whp you are going to loose. Not even a drivers race my friend.

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 02:33 PM

wtf?

We are friends, we hangout. He can use my name " Chris " instead of saying transporter.

Make sense?

Dubbedown

12-19-2006, 02:35 PM

i was saying wtf at

"Dude, I flipp'n cant believe that Mercedes tried to race us yesterday :) That old man was so cool! :alright"

you sound like a 12yr old homo.

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 02:35 PM

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 02:41 PM

i was saying wtf at

"Dude, I flipp'n cant believe that Mercedes tried to race us yesterday :) That old man was so cool! :alright"

you sound like a 12yr old homo.

I fail to see the humor in your comment, the guy was like 60 years old. Driving a Mercedes C240. I own one, I know they're slow....it was fun watching him zip in and out of traffic to keep up with us.... so actully I think your the " 12 year old homo" here.... :rolleyes

Dubbedown

12-19-2006, 03:00 PM

Alot happens on the road... just like in the business world... not everything works like it does in the books.

wow, i didn't know warren buffet drove an audi tt now, haha. you must be quite the shrewd businessman in real life. what ya do for a living?

I fail to see the humor in your comment, the guy was like 60 years old. Driving a Mercedes C240. I own one, I know they're slow....it was fun watching him zip in and out of traffic to keep up with us.... so actully I think your the " 12 year old homo" here.... :rolleyes

lol, actually i think there's 6 pages worth of posts thats prove you're the biggest homo ever. :lol

... and that doesn't include your other threads.

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 03:08 PM

wow, i didn't know warren buffet drove an audi tt now, haha. you must be quite the shrewd businessman in real life. what ya do for a living?

lol, actually i think there's 6 pages worth of posts thats prove you're the biggest homo ever. :lol

... and that doesn't include your other threads.

I own a photography and graphics company on the side, and im a consultant for a publishing company.

What do you do?

Dubbedown

12-19-2006, 03:11 PM

not that it matters b/c i'm not quoting dummy's guide to business success but i'm a fixed income analyst at an i-bank.

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 03:14 PM

not that it matters b/c i'm not quoting dummy's guide to business success but i work for an i-bank.

I never quoted anything. Simple business, any decent business man knows that every client/program isn't a black and white road....many grey lines....

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 03:14 PM

lol, actually i think there's 6 pages worth of posts thats prove you're the biggest homo ever. :lol

... and that doesn't include your other threads.

Im just wondering how my comments have lead you to question my sexuality. You have something against gay people?

Dubbedown

12-19-2006, 03:19 PM

if you want to be pc, understood. homo wasn't the right word. you just sound like a t00L.

you post worthless crap on this forum, know less about your own car than members here, and you're only defense is after you've been called out on every ridiculous post you've made, you were just f'ng around.

just makes me wonder how messed up your real life is that you resort to posting this crap about fictituous cars, mods, races and whatever else you can pull out of your a$$. you get no respect here and that's probably b/c you get none in real life so you were just HOPING your luck would change here.

we don't even need to know you in real life to recognize that you are indeed, full of $hit... everything about you that is.

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 03:44 PM

I find it odd how you judge me for who I am and what I am by the posts I create. In my day to day life, i'm absolutly nothing like am in these forums. I'm rather quite and unspoken in the work world. If you need to question my work ethics and motives my cars home and lifestyle should speak for themselves. Not that they are Ferrari's or anything of that nature; but at 22 owning a Mercedes C240 and a Audi TT as a replacement car for my 7 series, (old or not) I would say that I'm doing quite well. (Like my cars or not)

Just in retail value thats $35,000 in 2 cars if you throw my 7 series in there my cost is around $45,000. Not to mention the house or boat I own.

So on your basis of respect, i've earned mine, and I have plenty of it. I'm not going to get into a debate about who makes more money or not, or who has a better job, heck even education, some how i know it leans in my direction.

You've proven your ignorance more than once through out the past few threads. You've bashed me, cut me down, called me even a homo. To me that shows where your at mentality wise.

I posted crap in the past because I was bored. If I truly wanted to have respect; I could have created a new screen name with my Audi TT and no one would have ever known. However I chose to leave it as it is.

You can keep bashing me...but when it comes down to it...your no better than I am in these forums. If you were truly better you wouldn't waste time reading my posts or even responding to them.

Like it or not you and I are very similar in the " online world " :eyecrazy

prash

12-19-2006, 05:48 PM

.......
You can keep bashing me...but when it comes down to it...your no better than I am in these forums. If you were truly better you wouldn't waste time reading my posts or even responding to them.

Like it or not you and I are very similar in the " online world " :eyecrazy

This is probably the most intelligent post you've dropped. I don't read most of your shit for that very reason. (not b/c I think I'm any better than you, but simply b/c its a waste of time)

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 05:51 PM

This is probably the most intelligent post you've dropped. I don't read most of your shit for that very reason. (not b/c I think I'm any better than you, but simply b/c its a waste of time)

well there you go, you respond because your interested/bored. Same thing I am... I just happen to come at it from a different angle than you. :evil2

prash

12-19-2006, 06:00 PM

well there you go, you respond because your interested/bored. Same thing I am... I just happen to come at it from a different angle than you. :evil2

Fair enough. It's a little wak for someone to consciously decide to come off as a complete idiot, but whatever floats your boat.

bimeralex

12-19-2006, 06:29 PM

attack eagle

12-19-2006, 06:34 PM

So basically you are admitting you're full of sh!t?

Lightly modded (nothing more than intake and exhaust) 03-04 G35's are running about 235-239whp on the dynos depending on wether AT or MT. My friend with an 04 5AT with HKS exhaust and Stillen CAI dynoed at 236whp 2 weekends ago at the AMS Dyno Day. The 06 G35's with the RevUp motors are at 240-245whp depending on AT or MT. Unless your car is putting down anywhere close to 230whp you are going to loose. Not even a drivers race my friend.

Pitiful numbers for such an expensive car... and only about 225 torque on any of them. SO a g35 then averages about 20 hp more than a nice modded 1.8t while giving up 25 -40 ft lb of torque... No wonder they wind up either being turbo'd or becoming showcars and vaginamobiles.

Karl Spakler... I would say you are a symptom of a failing education system that caters to the lowest common denominator. I'm sure your college degree was not in english, or liberal arts. I would expect better from someone who graduated high school, much less someone who is supposed to be college educated.
So to you offertehse quotes from the Bard:

Would thou wert clean enough to spit upon! Thou wilt fall backward when thou hast more wit

And as a parent, I really don't find it funny when you say that I or anyone else is mental retarded.
Would that your testes be divorced from your body by a carjacker's shotgun, so that we may be relieved of the mental burden of contemplating your possible sexual reproduction, and the horrors of the offspring resulting from such an unlikely possiblility as your engaging in intercourse with a member of the opposite sex...

Seriously,
Mental retardation occurs in 2.5-3% of the general population, that means that it is extremely likely that someone here on this forum has a mentally retarded sibling or child, or is friends with someone who does.

Oh and Mr College Education? A diagnosis of mental retardation is made if an individual has an intellectual functioning level well below average and significant limitations in two or more adaptive skill areas. This means an IQ below 70-75, AND significant limitations in two or more adaptive skill areas. Such as the ability to produce and understand language, home-living skills, health, safety, leisure, self-care, and social skills, self-direction, functional academic skills (reading, writing, and arithmetic), and work skills.

There are dynos of other Jettas with similar mods doing 215+ whp and far more torque than the G35. I stand by my assertion. IF the ANY 1.8T was properly modded it could take a g35 sedan no problem, and a g35 coupe would be a driver's race.
As far as the OP, I dunno, and i never cared. My only issue was with the statement that a 1.8t can never beat a g35, and that simply isn't so.

Arguing about whether car type A can beat Car type B is ludicrous, though not as ludicrous as saying car type A could NEVER beat car type B. At best you can say Bob's car can't beat Jim's car at this time, because I saw them race personally and it wasn't close.

B///MW

12-19-2006, 06:59 PM

why don't you get something other than your 525T, attack eagle, you seem to really dig audi's. You've practically written a half-witted book about them.

BMW Loe

12-19-2006, 08:03 PM

Pitiful numbers for such an expensive car... and only about 225 torque on any of them. SO a g35 then averages about 20 hp more than a nice modded 1.8t while giving up 25 -40 ft lb of torque... No wonder they wind up either being turbo'd or becoming showcars and vaginamobiles.

Karl Spakler... I would say you are a symptom of a failing education system that caters to the lowest common denominator. I'm sure your college degree was not in english, or liberal arts. I would expect better from someone who graduated high school, much less someone who is supposed to be college educated.
So to you offertehse quotes from the Bard:

Would thou wert clean enough to spit upon! Thou wilt fall backward when thou hast more wit

And as a parent, I really don't find it funny when you say that I or anyone else is mental retarded.
Would that your testes be divorced from your body by a carjacker's shotgun, so that we may be relieved of the mental burden of contemplating your possible sexual reproduction, and the horrors of the offspring resulting from such an unlikely possiblility as your engaging in intercourse with a member of the opposite sex...

Seriously,
Mental retardation occurs in 2.5-3% of the general population, that means that it is extremely likely that someone here on this forum has a mentally retarded sibling or child, or is friends with someone who does.

Oh and Mr College Education? A diagnosis of mental retardation is made if an individual has an intellectual functioning level well below average and significant limitations in two or more adaptive skill areas. This means an IQ below 70-75, AND significant limitations in two or more adaptive skill areas. Such as the ability to produce and understand language, home-living skills, health, safety, leisure, self-care, and social skills, self-direction, functional academic skills (reading, writing, and arithmetic), and work skills.

There are dynos of other Jettas with similar mods doing 215+ whp and far more torque than the G35. I stand by my assertion. IF the ANY 1.8T was properly modded it could take a g35 sedan no problem, and a g35 coupe would be a driver's race.
As far as the OP, I dunno, and i never cared. My only issue was with the statement that a 1.8t can never beat a g35, and that simply isn't so.

Arguing about whether car type A can beat Car type B is ludicrous, though not as ludicrous as saying car type A could NEVER beat car type B. At best you can say Bob's car can't beat Jim's car at this time, because I saw them race personally and it wasn't close.

You do know that G35's of the year Chris raced was at the top of its own class at the time for WHP/WTQ right? I fail to see how the numbers are pitiful, it cost less or similar than an Audi TT new

MotorWerkz

12-19-2006, 10:08 PM

if you are talking about price, the sky is the limit

G35 can beat Rolls Royce Phantom around the track. G35 also can kill Maybach around the track ..

Even G35 can kill F1 on San Francisco streets. G35 is the 2nd fastest car in the world.

Expensive cars doesn't mean they are always faster.

///36M

12-19-2006, 10:15 PM

heck i'll have a car faster than an M3, with mods for less than $15k

I like the sound of that!

The only caveat being that everyone will assume that a girl owns it.

MotorWerkz

12-19-2006, 10:18 PM

the old gen Audi TT looks like girly car, I never wish to have one. The new one looks good.

TransporterE38

12-19-2006, 11:18 PM

The only caveat being that everyone will assume that a girl owns it.

Not really.

Someone with style maybe...but not a girl

Every M3 I see has some punk ass kid in it...who thinks his shit doesn't stink...next to that there mom and dad bought it for them.

If you bought your M3 NEW...i'll show you some respect, but if you drive an old e36 m3...just another old quick car.... buy a new m3 and i'll give you some props...otherwise your just driving an old car.

however...after its so old..it becomes cool again...like the m3 E30 ...only old bmw I truly love next to the 2002

attack eagle

12-20-2006, 01:03 AM

Reading Comprehension > you b///mw

Actually I hate Audi. Except for the Le Mans prototypes...
I have hated their street cars ever since I had to work on `em in the late 90s. And I especially hate the TT.

I have what I wanted. I sold my "baby" to get it.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/AttackEagle/100_0623.jpg

I'll pick up a spyder in a few years and convert it to AWD and then swap the nose to TSI 2gb and the tail as well. Should be a good project for me n my eldest to play with over a summer.

BMW LOE:

225 ft lb torque at the wheels? IN a 3400 lb car? I guess I'm just not used to seeing such low power numbers associated with what is supposed to be a "high performance" car. Not with such high curb weights.
Shades of the 3000 GT Vr4... except those had more power.
I'm a little more used to seeing cars under 30k with 28-3800 curbweights and 210-310 whp and 250-400 lb ft of torque.

///36M

12-20-2006, 02:02 AM

Not really.

Someone with style maybe...but not a girl

Every M3 I see has some punk ass kid in it...who thinks his shit doesn't stink...next to that there mom and dad bought it for them.

If you bought your M3 NEW...i'll show you some respect, but if you drive an old e36 m3...just another old quick car.... buy a new m3 and i'll give you some props...otherwise your just driving an old car.

however...after its so old..it becomes cool again...like the m3 E30 ...only old bmw I truly love next to the 2002

:rofl :rofl :rofl

An audi TT is one step up from a VW bug.... you didnt miss that in the design cues somewhere did you?? When you were buying your stylish 1.8t powered Audi? Cars these days are designed more and more for women, and the TT is a industry leader in that respect.

And lets be serious.. You respect an yuppie new M3 but not an E36? How retarded is that? An E36 M3 that pulls on or is equal to basically every competitor that has come out since... s2000, 350z, G35 coupe, R32 VW, etc etc... A car that was designed a decade + before all those cars.. Nah, dont show that car any respect. But respect the NEW M3 who's engine is basically the same as the Euro engine from 96+, but it weighs more :help The new M3 is much less impressive overall than a E36, everything considered.

M3's have fallen off since the E36.... I would never buy a E46 or E92.. they are cool, dont get me wrong, but they are far from the class leader which the E36 was.

Oh ya, a C230 is a girls car too.... Do I smell a sandy vagina problem around here?

lol bro its all in jest... I just had to say something when you started with the whole "I'll have a car faster than an M3 for 15k"... theres plenty of ways to make a car faster than an M3 for 15k... I can buy a 2500 dollar 325is that will smoke your TT when I throw a 4k turbo kit on it, it doesnt prove anything. IMO, a TT is a girls car (a opinion which is hard to argue.. just look at that thing) if it was given to me I'd drive it straight to the end of my driveway and throw a for sale sign on it, and get a 740i sport for my DD :D