throw away your radar detectors. they wont work anymore. If you did not catch the news last night the highway patrol have a whole bunch of new toys. That involve a laser beam that they point at a specific car and it gives them the speed. Channel 4 nbc had the report. Chuck Henry did the report and was even using the gun himself. This type of speed detection can not be picked up on any kind of radar detector and is very accurate and easy to use.

SLOW DOWN

Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O'rly? The California Police can actually afford these new toys?

Sounds like the same old laser guns theyve been using for years now.....whats different about these ones?

ZOMG LAZERS! pew pew! :eek: :eyecrazy

Sorry.. it reminded me of that thread title. :rofl

Anyway, this sucks. Im also curious to hear the difference between these new lasers and the old ones.. Im sure radars will adapt soon enough if need be.. :shifty

I am pretty sure someone is already working on how not to get your speed detected. :devillook

.... buy a lidatek system lol... no need to throw the radar det. away.... laser jammer ftw in this case.

throw away your radar detectors. they wont work anymore. If you did not catch the news last night the highway patrol have a whole bunch of new toys. That involve a laser beam that they point at a specific car and it gives them the speed. Channel 4 nbc had the report. Chuck Henry did the report and was even using the gun himself. This type of speed detection can not be picked up on any kind of radar detector and is very accurate and easy to use.

SLOW DOWN

Oh noes, already existing lasers! :)

Doesn't matter I rarely speed anymore :P

i rarely dont drive the speedlimit

here is some info on the news report

video
http://video.nbc4.tv/player.html?dlid=47698

transcript
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/10416896/detail.html

so does this work kinda like the laser thermometers?

LASD is using lidar on PCH in malibu.

I know city cops shoot laser... but now CHP are gonna get em too?

But with laser dont you have to point it directly at the target, and they cannot be moving?

The cops in my town use laser, and I have been blasted by it but my X50 has picked it up.

But with laser dont you have to point it directly at the target, and they cannot be moving?

The cops in my town use laser, and I have been blasted by it but my X50 has picked it up.

Right. They're doing it in teams. One shoots, and radios in. Just like a helicopter pacing you (ask me how I know... :()

I'm gonna have to fork over more $$ for a lidatek system now... Sheez

watch the video link i posted up top

http://video.nbc4.tv/player.html?dlid=47698

so basically CHP is using laser too now. No biggy... My X50 should handle it

so basically CHP is using laser too now. No biggy... My X50 should handle it

Way I see it, it's no different than the way I got popped with instant-on radar a few months ago. He didn't have a radar gun just sitting "on", he pulled the trigger when I rounded the bend. Coulda done the same thing with a laser gun. :dunno

tell me about it..... i just got popped today.... damn instant on laser. all my radar detector can do is go 'hey buddy, you might wanna go ahead and pull over'.

Im faster than any laser out there so Im obviously not worried at all.

-Serge

Yea I got hit 2x in 1 month with i-o radar in like jan or feb. mofos. :shifty

Way I see it, it's no different than the way I got popped with instant-on radar a few months ago. He didn't have a radar gun just sitting "on", he pulled the trigger when I rounded the bend. Coulda done the same thing with a laser gun. :dunno

For that reason I do not speed on city streets. Especially when I'm the only car on the road.

I just don't speed :dunno

I just don't speed :dunno

I try not to... It just happens some times.

what about our V1s..... Will it help us anymore?

That's pretty weak. I just watched the video and he said that it can be off. I'm sure most cops aren't going to take his position and "not write the ticket".

I am also wondering if the X50, and the add on to the X50 will help. I was orignally thinking of getting the V1 with invisi mirror, but Ive heard so many better thing about the x50. one thing about that news cast, they showed it on the 210 freeway, im surprised that they dont show it on the 10 or the 101 freeways.

I loved this new story and I was suprised how many people saw it. I even taped it. They clocked a honda civic at 100mph on the 210, chp officer said something like 'yep, that happens all the time'. Its crazy and I'm glad that hopefully this will put an end to many speeders out there.

I am also wondering if the X50, and the add on to the X50 will help. I was orignally thinking of getting the V1 with invisi mirror, but Ive heard so many better thing about the x50. one thing about that news cast, they showed it on the 210 freeway, im surprised that they dont show it on the 10 or the 101 freeways.

I love how people get V1s, stick it on their windshields, then get a remote display or invisimirror right next to it.


My V1 can't really be seen just mounted up high.

It has laser, but it's useless.

Just because they showed this on the news doesn't mean they are converting to laser overnight. They still have cop cars from the 80s rollin around, they dont have the budget to convert completely to laser. Maybe a few more cops now use it, big deal.

Just don't drive like an idiot and you'll be fine.

generally if you dont drive like a total jackass, and dont act like one when your pulled over, you have a great chance of sweet talkin the cop out of a ticket. thats just been my observation.... never bought a radar detector and ive never gotten a speeding ticket, and not a day goes by that i dont speed....im just cautious of where to do it

Yay, more $$$$ for local governments and insurance companies. Fucking bullshit.

throw away your radar detectors. they wont work anymore. If you did not catch the news last night the highway patrol have a whole bunch of new toys. That involve a laser beam that they point at a specific car and it gives them the speed. Channel 4 nbc had the report. Chuck Henry did the report and was even using the gun himself. This type of speed detection can not be picked up on any kind of radar detector and is very accurate and easy to use. This is nothing new. Laser has been around for about ten years but mostly just in local municipalities. The LAPD got it about 8 years ago.

The CHP has been using Laser for a few years now in selected areas, including the Malibu and Ventura canyon roads, but now they've gotten the funding to deploy it in more areas. This state is bleeding money and the CHP is a big revenue generator so this is just another investment to bring dollars into the state coffers.

Any radar detector with Laser detection can pick up Laser, but it reads your speed so fast there's no way to slow down in time. There is nothing revolutionary about the new Lidar the CHP just got, except for maybe the machine-gun style shoulder stock. The good thing about Laser is that it's fairly close range so if you're paying attention you can spot the cop holding it up to his face before he pulls the trigger. I've avoided many Laser tickets just by looking ahead and paying attention (i slowed down before he could zap me).

Laser Jammers are illegal in California, i've already known a few people who were handcuffed and taken to jail and their car impounded when they were caught with a Jammer (it's a misdemeanor, not a ticket). And for the most part the Jammers aren't effective anyway.

It takes a lot of skill to be able to use a the LIDAR system to begin with. Officers have to go through extensive training and must aim the laser beam at a metal object on your car (most often the liscence plate).

It will take time for the patrol units to come up to speed on even using the LIDAR system, much less preferring it to regular radar, which is much easier to use.

I just don't see the technology becoming as mainstream as this article states.

This is nothing new. Laser has been around for about ten years but mostly just in local municipalities. The LAPD got it about 8 years ago.

The CHP has been using Laser for a few years now in selected areas, including the Malibu and Ventura canyon roads, but now they've gotten the funding to deploy it in more areas. This state is bleeding money and the CHP is a big revenue generator so this is just another investment to bring dollars into the state coffers.

Any radar detector with Laser detection can pick up Laser, but it reads your speed so fast there's no way to slow down in time. There is nothing revolutionary about the new Lidar the CHP just got, except for maybe the machine-gun style shoulder stock. The good thing about Laser is that it's fairly close range so if you're paying attention you can spot the cop holding it up to his face before he pulls the trigger. I've avoided many Laser tickets just by looking ahead and paying attention (i slowed down before he could zap me).

Laser Jammers are illegal in California, i've already known a few people who were handcuffed and taken to jail and their car impounded when they were caught with a Jammer (it's a misdemeanor, not a ticket). And for the most part the Jammers aren't effective anyway.
I thought that radar jammers were illegal, not laser jammers. Lasers fall under a different set of regulations because they are also used in medical devices :dunno

I just don't speed :dunno

Oh come on. You go 65? If so, great, but expecting everyone else to is naive. Our speed limits are unsafely low as determined by the NHTSA.

Oh come on. You go 65? If so, great, but expecting everyone else to is naive. Our speed limits are unsafely low as determined by the NHTSA.But you also don't get tickets anywhere in California for going 75 in a 65. Even 80 in a 65 is usually fine, as long as you're not weaving or pulling other stupid manuevers.

San Jose cops are using laser on city streets. I saw 2 motorcycle cops using laser in an area where the limit changes from 40mph to 25mph. :nono

Be careful out there.

I've seen LAPD with laser on Sunset Blvd and on PCH in the Palisades.

Most times my Escort 8500 does not pick it up, since the beam is so narrow. And you don't get the scatter from them shooting other cars, so you won't get an early warning, just an "oh shit it's too late" alarm.

I've seen LAPD with laser on Sunset Blvd and on PCH in the Palisades.

Most times my Escort 8500 does not pick it up, since the beam is so narrow. And you don't get the scatter from them shooting other cars, so you won't get an early warning, just an "oh shit it's too late" alarm.

Yup... VERY tempting to haul ass on those roads too, it's a bad combination. I don't know HOW I' haven't been popped there...

I don't understand why this is such big news either.. the thing that stood out to me was, as already been mentioned, they have a guy on the freeway overpass lasing cars; with a radio to call to the cop car waiting on the shoulder.

radar jammers are illegal on the federal level because they fall under the bailiwick of the FCC. It's radio signal that you're broadcasting. same goes for cell phone jammers.

laser jammers are flashing invisible lights, and aren't covered by FCC regulations, however, they may be specifically outlawed by your state's legislation.

Funny this showed up, I was heading northbound on Figuerora near the 110 on-ramp in China town on Monday. I muted my V1 because it was going zoinko on X-band in the area.

I crested a hill and saw a LAPD shooting either laser or radar from the side of teh street. D'oh. Glad I wasn't speeding...

LIDAR has been around for a while now. CHP is getting up to speed huh... They're still gonna pace like crazy at night time. I've seen CHP cars with different headlights recently... SCURRY

i would set that laser on DEATH and handle all of the lame ass kids who drive their cars way faster than they need to be going.

For that reason I do not speed on city streets. Especially when I'm the only car on the road.


you passed the guy going how fast from the 405 to the 55 the other night SYNDARK?

hahahahahaha

It takes a lot of skill to be able to use a the LIDAR system to begin with. Officers have to go through extensive training and must aim the laser beam at a metal object on your car (most often the liscence plate).

It will take time for the patrol units to come up to speed on even using the LIDAR system, much less preferring it to regular radar, which is much easier to use.

I just don't see the technology becoming as mainstream as this article states.

It's been pretty mainstream over here on the other coast ;)

They dont need to aim at your license plate... the beam is 3-4 feet wide. You make it sound as if they need trained snipers to operate these things. Simply not the case.

:)

But you also don't get tickets anywhere in California for going 75 in a 65. Even 80 in a 65 is usually fine, as long as you're not weaving or pulling other stupid manuevers.Oh yes they most certainly do give tickets out for 5 mph over. I've gotten a CHP ticket for 5 over before, and a customer of mine just got ticketed on the 405 freeway for going 70 in a 65 zone, early on a clear sunny Sunday morning with very light traffic as he passed the 105 freeway. It's chickenshit, but the CHP's official stance is that the posted Maximum speed is just that - the maximum and they will enforce the law. And rake in the dough.

I thought that radar jammers were illegal, not laser jammers. Lasers fall under a different set of regulations because they are also used in medical devices :dunnoAll Jammers are illegal in California - it doesn't matter if it's Lidar or Radar. The CHP officer that spoke at a BMW CCA meeting a few years ago said any device that interferes with an officer in the performance of his duty is illegal, and that includes all types of Jammers.

A quick search reveals this:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc28150.htm

Jamming: Electronic Speed-Measuring Devices

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.

(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision
(b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.
Added Sec. 1, Ch. 493, Stats. 1998. Effective January 1, 1999.

I wonder if the cops will suspect you have a jammer when they aim the lidar at you and don't get a reading.

id love to know the answer to that.

for the person that said that it takes years to learn how to use the lidar. i dont believe it. it may take a while to get certified on how to use it but not to learn how to use it. if it is so hard on how to use it then why did chuck henry catch on quick and say this is easy.

i guess thats one of those things that make you go hmmmm

i guess certifying them means that someone has had some kind of training and someone has signed off on there training then some higher up person decided to call it rigorous training. so when ever they have to go to court they can say they went through rigorous training and are certified by someone who got a certificate from someone else who. who got a certificate from someone else that says he can sign certificates.
:rolleyes :rolleyes

tell me about it..... i just got popped today.... damn instant on laser. all my radar detector can do is go 'hey buddy, you might wanna go ahead and pull over'.

What radar dectector do you have?

Looks like after watching this video, I might have to throw my radar detector on eBay! :mad

Yea I got hit 2x in 1 month with i-o radar in like jan or feb. mofos. :shifty

2 tickets in 1 month, YIKES!!! Thats gonna stay on your record for 6 years.

2 tickets in 1 month, YIKES!!! Thats gonna stay on your record for 6 years.

3 years...

I know...

:shifty

they can go suck it -- if worse comes to worst i'll defect to mexico - which will entitle me to drive in cali however i want with smug impunity

they can go suck it -- if worse comes to worst i'll defect to mexico - which will entitle me to drive in cali however i want with smug impunity

Just dont get caught driving an american licensed car under the same name as your MEKY license..

OT: BMWALDO, Im thinking of blacking out the wheels on my calypso.. Got any more pics of your car?

I'm sure there are at least a couple groups out there working on ways to beat it, because there is a huge profit to be had if they are successful, now that this news story blew the whole issue up. Beating it by any form other than a legal process seems unlikely, as unfortunately with LIDAR, you are screwed if you don't see the officer pointing it at you quickly enough; that is truth.

I'm wondering if these new LIDAR guns need to go through the same regular calibration that radar guns need to go through; where records need to be kept and what not. It's unfortunate but I just don't think the CHP or local law enforcement will actually take the time to keep all the records or even ensure that the units know how to 100% properly operate the device; if not that, I doubt the units they are deployed with will actually use them in such a professional and proper manner as the one they displayed in the video, at least not all the time. They put on a show for the news. In reality, I'm sure a few people are going to get screwed by the officer not operating the device correctly.

I never try to speed...it's just that sometimes there is some unseen force (dark matter?) that makes my car move faster...

The "Laser" detector on the V1 is really a Murano/FX35 detector. Everytime I get that, low and behold I spot one of them around.

The "Laser" detector on the V1 is really a Murano/FX35 detector. Everytime I get that, low and behold I spot one of them around.

Apparently the third brake light on Chevy Trailblazer's as well.
:lol

I never try to speed...it's just that sometimes there is some unseen force (dark matter?) that makes my car move faster...


you'd better to take your car to VW dealership. you have FAST in your car :lol

It's chickenshit, but the CHP's official stance is that the posted Maximum speed is just that - the maximum and they will enforce the law. And rake in the dough.Ain't that the truth. If it didn't bring in so much revenue, we'd see lighter enforcement. If we got the Legislature to make all traffic tickets community service instead of fines, we'd hardly ever get pulled over. But that ain't gonna happen.

Parking tickets are especially good cash generators. You'd be amazed to see how much of a city's budget depends on traffic and parking fines.

Aww!! That sucks...no more going 120mph rushing home for my curfew. :-(

LIDAR is nothing new and can be jammed or shifted (temporarily jammed) by a good set-up. I run an SR7 with ZR3 shifters. It shifts the laser for several seconds until I have time to slow down. By the time the LIDAR detects my speed I'm within the speed limit.

OMG!! the humanity. what are we gonna do!!!

OMG!! the humanity. what are we gonna do!!!

We're going to be very cautious on the road.
More than usual.

O'rly? The California Police can actually afford these new toys?
Ha, that's exactly what I was thinking.

I guess I'll be slowing down...

i'm liking the shifty approach :shifty