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dwayneseah
11-15-2006, 01:02 PM
Hey guys I am new to bmw and the 6 series but it has caught my eye. I was looking into getting an 82 635csi euro spec at ~90k miles. It is a 5 spd getrag. What is this car's value? How much would it go for? Lets say if the paint and body and interior was about 7-8.5 out of 10.

xatlas0
11-15-2006, 01:36 PM
The thing that will make the car is the production date. The 82 model year is right on the fence, in terms of E12/E28 basis. If it is an E28 based model, parts will be much easier to get.

The car's worth is driven mostly by its condition. If there is no rust, and the rest of the car is in acceptable condition (everything works, some road rash, no oxidation of paint, no rust, no splits in leather, no dash cracks) it is probably worth in the 5-8k region. With some flaws (just not rust) it drops doen to the 4s. This is based off autotrader and ebay prices.

An E12 unit (to me, anyway) would be worth less due to the upkeep difficulties.

e24mpwr
11-15-2006, 02:13 PM
Some folks like the M90 motor better than the M30. I like the later Euro rear bumpers, though an '82 will have the older style.

Depending on how it was federalized, you may have 90K miles on this side of the Atlantic, but with miles that low I'd agree in general w/ the range from xatlas, though $8K would have to be an exceptional car in the more desireable colors.

dwayneseah
11-15-2006, 07:52 PM
how is white?
and yea i realized in america they didnt have the 635csi until later, the only reason this 82 is a 635 is because it is a euro

I woulda thought the car was worth more

i saw the M6 and I have to say it looks rather nice

approximately how much hp does a euro have and besides hp and torque what other differences are there? is there better suspension? different final drive ratio? I searched and mostly found things about the engine power

i heard the car is lighter?

xatlas0
11-15-2006, 09:09 PM
how is white?
and yea i realized in america they didnt have the 635csi until later, the only reason this 82 is a 635 is because it is a euro

White is a very common color. There are several BMW whites. The main question is which version of white it is. The paint code is usually on a sticker in the engine bay, on one of the shock towers.

I woulda thought the car was worth more

The only old BMWs worth any kind of scratch, aside from the <200 produced or M cars, are E9s. The main thing that keeps values down is that BMW made literally hundereds of thousands of E24s, almost half a million E12s, and almost a million E28s, if I recall my production numbers right.

i saw the M6 and I have to say it looks rather nice

approximately how much hp does a euro have and besides hp and torque what other differences are there? is there better suspension? different final drive ratio? I searched and mostly found things about the engine power

i heard the car is lighter?
The Euros have 9:1 CRs, no cats and no thermal reactors, if I recall right. This means about 210hp and about 210 lb-ft of torque. As far as I am aware, there are no driveline differences, unless this E24 has a CR, rather than a dogleg gearbox. The main differences between US and Euro versions are emissions-related, so lower CR, thermal reactors, and cats. Additional side markers and bumper differences are the main visual cues.

SprCpe
11-16-2006, 02:03 AM
I was looking for some information the other day and found an interesting site it was like 6ercoupe, I don’t remember the complete name I should have tagged it. They had a very extensive data library on spec’s production numbers even a complete equipment data tag decoder “the tag behind the back seat”. They list a total of 86219 6 series built world wide between 10/75 and 4/89 46780 manuals and 39439 automatics with about half of those coming to the states, I also found I had one of the first 100 89’s :) if those numbers are correct we are in a very exclusive club. The ratings on a 83 635 Euro were 218 bhp @ 5200 rpm and 224 lb ft @ 4000 rpm.
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Hope this helps, I hope it right also, maybe that’s why its so hard to find parts…:eek:

Otto Krosse
11-16-2006, 02:20 AM
The only old BMWs worth any kind of scratch, aside from the <200 produced or M cars, are E9s. The main thing that keeps values down is that BMW made literally hundereds of thousands of E24s, almost half a million E12s, and almost a million E28s, if I recall my production numbers right. :confused
:lol

BMW made about 89,000 E24's over a 12 year run, and only shipped 1767 M6's to N. America out of the 5855 total ///M series E24's ever produced (worldwide) over a 6 year period. Whoever told you that "hundreds of thousands of E24's were built" is uninformed at best!! :nono

Not sure about the total number of E28's but I do know that about 6400 535is models were shipped to N. America.....and only about 1200 E28 M5's!

xatlas0
11-16-2006, 02:39 AM
:lol

BMW made about 89,000 E24's over a 12 year run, and only shipped 1767 M6's to N. America out of the 5855 total ///M series E24's ever produced (worldwide) over a 6 year period. Whoever told you that "hundreds of thousands of E24's were built" is uninformed at best!! :nono

Not sure about the total number of E28's but I do know that about 6400 535is models were shipped to N. America.....and only about 1200 E28 M5's!

Ok, I found one of the sites I was remembering. It looks like they made about as many E12s as E28, about 700k.
http://eagle1.american.edu/~ec9672a/BMW%20Production%20Numbers.htm

Your number of E24s seems to be supported. My apologies.
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z11878/BMW_635%20CSi/default.aspx

I did, however, say the M cars were exempt from this malady of many copies. In comparison, only 30k coupes were ever built of any model, and most of those are rust stains by now.

Otto Krosse
11-16-2006, 11:02 AM
Here is another site that has all kinds of info on the E24 and this page will give the production numbers and colors: http://www.bigcoupe.com/buying/datesandnumbers.html

Looks like I may have been a bit to high on my E24 total, based on the info there.


Bigcoupe also has a forum and other pages that hold a wealth of info, pics and links. Agreat place for the E24 fanatic!

....and here is a link to some E28 production numbers:
http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=25178&highlight=e28+production+numbers

I hope this helps!

:)

GWL
11-16-2006, 08:49 PM
White is a very common color. There are several BMW whites. The main question is which version of white it is. The paint code is usually on a sticker in the engine bay, on one of the shock towers.


The only old BMWs worth any kind of scratch, aside from the <200 produced or M cars, are E9s. The main thing that keeps values down is that BMW made literally hundereds of thousands of E24s, almost half a million E12s, and almost a million E28s, if I recall my production numbers right.

The Euros have 9:1 CRs, no cats and no thermal reactors, if I recall right. This means about 210hp and about 210 lb-ft of torque. As far as I am aware, there are no driveline differences, unless this E24 has a CR, rather than a dogleg gearbox. The main differences between US and Euro versions are emissions-related, so lower CR, thermal reactors, and cats. Additional side markers and bumper differences are the main visual cues.
An 80 Euro was rated at 218 HP

SprCpe
11-17-2006, 12:47 AM
I started wondering if I could find this site again, it has some good data links for E24's check it out and you might want to book mark it.

http://www.6ercoupe.de/englisch/fakten00.html