It was a dark and gloomy night during the eleventh hour on November the fifth, two thousand and six. I was voyaging southbound on the Interstate Five freeway in the heart of the San Fernando Valley in Southern California. The Moon was nearly full as it reflected the blue glow of the sun whose surface burns at an approximate six thousand kelvin. The air was as crisp as an Antarctic iceberg. I could see the gloom of Dodger Stadium over Elysian Park on my starboard. On my port was non-other than The American Broadcasting Company with its lavishing liquid crystal display billboard who’s Candela is comparable to that of the star in which our solar system revolves around as it boasts of extreme and udder dominance orbiting our planet known as the Pinpoint Live Doppler 7000+ Satellite, giving the human race no less than one-hundred and ten percent pinpoint accuracy on our seven day forecast (a forecast which predicted clear skies and cool air on this particular eve).

I was traveling solitary in my two thousand and four Honda Accord coupe EX wrapped in a rich, deep Nighthawk Black Pearl metallic paint, a paint in which Aphrodite, Greek Goddess of love and beauty, painted herself with her own perfect hands; the sheer depth alone being reminiscent to an abyss in which no man has ever experienced. The cluster gauge was glowing blue reading seventy-five miles per hour at two thousand five hundred revolutions per minute. The amber glow radiating from the light-emitting diode above gave the interior cabin a perfect ambience as the sounds of a Memphis Les Paul permeated the air with “You Could Be Mine” by the famous American Rock and Roll band Guns N’ Roses.

As I was traveling south in the number one lane going at a reasonable speed given the current road conditions, I notice a bright purple gleam in my right side view mirror, a mirror which reminded me that objects and said mirror could very well be closer than they appear. I notice this vehicle has a badge on its hood indicating that it hails from a factory owned by none-other than Bavarian Motor Works. This fellow pulls right alongside of me in the number two lane as he glares at me with his beady, pigeon like eyes. The cut of his jib resembles that of Nintendo Entertainment System’s very own Mario from the infamous Brother of Super Mario. This struck me as quite humorous until the young lad waived a Smith and Wesson 24-7 SWAT knife with a 4 1/8" closed satin finish blade at me as if to foreshadow my very death by his will. Enraged, I down shift my silky smooth six gear manual transmission gearbox into third gear bringing my revolutions per minute to four thousand five-hundred indicating to my antagonist that I would like to engage in a bit of illegal, but very cautious street racing that of which would rival the ancient Roman chariot races. He then proceeded to down shift his Aryan engineered transmission into a comparable gear in which to inform me that he is in fact ready to compete.

Off we went, full speed ahead. Intakes and exhausts are roaring as the maximum amount of petroleum gasoline and air from our Earth’s Troposphere are entering the cylinder heads firing in sequential order from one to six. We are pulling dead even as our speeds climbs to one hundred miles per hour, at which point, it hits… Honda’s notorious V-Tech engages changing the very course of the human race as we knot it. My speed begins to climb tremendously at an exponential rate, one hundred five, one hundred ten, shift into fourth, one twenty, one twenty five! At this point I no longer see the chap as I bring the car to a reasonable speed given the current road conditions. I have prevailed! I have slain this purple beast!

Moments later, I notice a gleam in my rear-view mirror, is it? It couldn’t possibly be… it was! It was the same BMW! He motions at me to pull over so I surrender to his request. We both proceed to pull to the shoulder and get out of our respectable vehicles. Low and behold it was my old high school chum, Aren! He recognizes me as well and we shake hands as I proceed to pierce his chest plate with my 15 3/8-inch 420 J2 stainless steel knife I was wielding in my right hand. He looks at me with utter disbelief as the blood fills the air with a red fog seen only in the battle fields of the ancient samurai warriors. As his body goes limp and the life slips from his eyes, I laugh, turning the blade sideways collapsing the walls of his barely beating heart. He asks me, “Casey, wha- why?” I say, “Aren, old friend, in this sea of chaos where the ebb and flow of mankind creates both positive and negative energies in this universe, unpredictable things are bound to happen… and no matter what kind BMW you have, my two thousand and four, two-door Honda Accord with J30A4, 3.0 litre V-tech and six speed manual transmission will always be victorious… and it has god damn navigation and gets bad ass gas mileage so eat a dixz0rz!!!~one”

:(

*tear

:rofl :rofl

:nono no racing :devillook

Aren better be alright tho :shifty

Ehhhh...

WTF?

//amullo

some how i am now dumber for reading that.

some how i am now dumber for reading that.

+1...

Wow you have too much time on your hands.

interesting

some how i am now dumber for reading that.

+2

:rolleyes

atleast he drove home in a BMW.. right after a 318i blew by both of you.

uhhhhmmmm, yeah, great, I don't think my vocabulary is good enough to respond to this thread...so I will say the usual, good kill, hope you understand what that means...

Just in case you cannot...
Today's date...The sixth of November, two thousand six. My car, two thousand seven, Honda Accord sedan, wrapped in cool blue metallic, painted by the sky, two point four liter engine, four cylinder, five-speed manual...will not "slain" much!

:)

:rofl

Wow what a horrible attempt at being funny...And your writing skills suck.

^ you live in florida... :rolleyes

^ you live in florida... :rolleyes

another crappy attempt at being funny.

another crappy attempt at being funny.

got something better?

some how i am now dumber for reading that.

Plus one.

uhmm... good kill?

+2

:rolleyes

atleast he drove home in a BMW.. right after a 318i blew by both of you.

+3

thats a...good story

if u beat an e36 m3 with your accord the driver of the m3 was real poor or it was one slow m3 because i would never lose to a 2004 accord

Do any of your numbers work??? 1234567890 hehe mine do!:stickoutt :D

how much hp do those accords come with? crank and wheel

Wanna write my english essay due tommorow? I'll give you a ride in a real ///M3.

Wow. *clicks back button*

if u beat an e36 m3 with your accord the driver of the m3 was real poor or it was one slow m3 because i would never lose to a 2004 accord

You're absolutely wrong... It's honestly pretty neck and neck.

how much hp do those accords come with? crank and wheel
It's probably about 250 ish at the crank and I'm guessing 220 at the wheel given the intake and exhaust mods. It's usually faster than ANYONE gives it credit for. :alright

some how i am now dumber for reading that.

+4

Can I borrow that?

Can I borrow that?

Borrow what?

youre gay

youre gay

Only when I'm not raping your mother.

Originally Posted by TransporterE38
some how i am now dumber for reading that.

+1...
+1...
'dumber' says the noobs. learn how to enjoy a story.:help

I believe the Accord has less torque and more weight, he should have taken you or at least kept up RIGHT there with you..
Correct me if I am wrong.

It's hard to guage. From a roll they're very close. The 6-speed on the Accord reall helps it out... and believe it or not VTEC makes magic
lol

what happened when you raced me MOFO!!!!! god damn that mo-f*ckin honda is fast though... sounds great too

Cliffnotes?

what happened when you raced me MOFO!!!!! god damn that mo-f*ckin honda is fast though... sounds great too

I fucked you up, lawlamiright?

just kidding, muh ninja.

my car only went faster because it was afraid of your intake noise

[QUOTE=I notice a bright purple gleam in my right side view mirror, a mirror which reminded me that objects and said mirror could very well be closer than they appear.[/QUOTE]

Rofl.

Hey Garret M. You are a chode. His writing skills do not suck. I felt like I learned something after I read this story. No I didnt learn that hondas are cooler than bimmers but i learned something to apply to my english class. Your story was entertaing and trapped me inside and made me only think of the story and nothing outside. These are the signs of a good writer.

Too many adjectives = corny writing.

Adjectives provide a detailed description of the writers depiction of his surroundings and experiences. They enhance a story.

lol wow :rofl... dude, I'm laughing at all this right now

i-VTEC vs Double VANOS...what is better? Basically, who has the best VVT system out there if not Honda or BMW?

i-VTEC vs Double VANOS...what is better? Basically, who has the best VVT system out there if not Honda or BMW?
Single vanos in this case.

Adjectives provide a detailed description of the writers depiction of his surroundings and experiences. They enhance a story.
Thank you for that heart warming definition Joe, but if you take a second to actually read my previous statement you will notice that I said "TOO" many adjectives make any story sound corny. I never said that adjectives ruin a story and if I did I would just be plain silly. However, just like anything in this world, too much of a good thing quickly becomes boring and in many cases annoying.

The Moon was nearly full as it reflected the blue glow of the sun whose surface burns at an approximate six thousand kelvin. The air was as crisp as an Antarctic iceberg. I could see the gloom of Dodger Stadium over Elysian Park on my starboard. On my port was non-other than The American Broadcasting Company with its lavishing liquid crystal display billboard who’s Candela is comparable to that of the star in which our solar system revolves around as it boasts of extreme and udder dominance orbiting our planet known as the Pinpoint Live Doppler 7000+ Satellite, giving the human race no less than one-hundred and ten percent pinpoint accuracy on our seven day forecast (a forecast which predicted clear skies and cool air on this particular eve).

This paragraph is a good example of what I am talking about. There is a lot of description but it reaches the point where it is unnecessary. It almost sounds as if the author is trying too hard to paint a picture in our heads. Of course you need to draw an outline to the reader but once you begin to get too in depth with each little thing it takes away from the imagination of the reader, in turn making it less vibrant in their own minds. I'm not saying this is true, it is just how I feel.

i-vtec is not a valve timing system... thus it isn't variable valve timing. What i-vtec does is that above a certain rpm, a different set of (bigger) lobes on the cams is used to increase the lift on the valve, pushing it further into the cylinder, allowing more air to flow in easier. this allows more fuel to be added and thus more torque and power, while maintining good combustion ratios. However, this is less fuel efficient, which is why for most casual driving, the regular set of cam lobes is used. The vtec system is used only when high performance is needed (usually indicated by being in high rpms) to maximize engine output, sacrificing the fuel economy normally desirable in a street car.

cliff notes: it combines agressive and non-agressive cams into one and switches back and forth depending on conditions... all on the same cam.

The E36 M3 would win, especially on top end, but it would be very tight. The Accord is a quick one, take a look

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbsJuI5zZho

The M3 would really dominate up top, because I know on mine it pulls strong at 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, and bam, cut right off. I have to get rid of that damn limiter because it pulls strong and then bam, cut off.

It's probably about 250 ish at the crank and I'm guessing 220 at the wheel given the intake and exhaust mods. It's usually faster than ANYONE gives it credit for. :alright

tis true

So nice and unusuaul to read a thread where someone knows how to write. Proper puctuation, spelling, interesting words. Nice story too. Both cars have 240 hp 6 cylinders. Always curious about that matchup.

his honda would own a stock e36 m3 done... i've seen his car in action, sorry.

maybe not own in the pwn sense, but pull slightly

i-vtec is not a valve timing system... thus it isn't variable valve timing. What i-vtec does is that above a certain rpm, a different set of (bigger) lobes on the cams is used to increase the lift on the valve, pushing it further into the cylinder, allowing more air to flow in easier. this allows more fuel to be added and thus more torque and power, while maintining good combustion ratios. However, this is less fuel efficient, which is why for most casual driving, the regular set of cam lobes is used. The vtec system is used only when high performance is needed (usually indicated by being in high rpms) to maximize engine output, sacrificing the fuel economy normally desirable in a street car.

cliff notes: it combines agressive and non-agressive cams into one and switches back and forth depending on conditions... all on the same cam.
true, on the DOHC honda engine it does this on both the intake and exhaust cams. on the SOHC engines, its only on the intake. The accord is SOHC. The only DOHC honda V6 is the NSX engine. The next generation v-tec has 3 stages. How is this different than the BMW vanos system? Im not sure how it works.

I was entertained

I was entertained

you saying that is the only reason I wrote it.. if ANYONE thought that was entertaining, I'm happy.

I apologize to anyone who does not want to admit to themselves that their stock M3 (remember Aren has intake and full catback exhaust with Shark programming) is rivaled by my rice patty :buttrock

MysterGoode, :mad I hate you:mad , your story sucked, I hate your writing style, I hate everything about your car, it's slow, it has terrible interior, the navigation is not an awesome addition, black sucks, japanese cars suck, your exhaust sucks, i hate people with red hair.... uh... VTEK is just hondas excuse for being to afraid to turbo...... etc. etc. etc. :mad I hate you... :mad

:buttrock

Casey, I'll take you in the twisties ;)

Dude... I'll take you out to dinner... Black Angus, NO, Outback Steak House. I'll liquor you up, order you the Brown Thunder from Down Under desert and then you can fall asleep as I take YOU in the twisties :nudge nudge wink wink:

Casey, I'll take you in the twisties ;)

should I say it?

you should spray it

Why are you always such a raging asshole, Tony, ALWAYS?

why do you take every opportunity to talk shit on me?? douchebag

why are you alive?!?

Tony will take all on Turbull

uhh, what kind of accord was this again?
i've beat accords (recent ones) in my 328.


my stock 328, on heavy ass big rims.


oh yeah and honda's rock, i drive a 1989 honda accord LX-i in the winter. Its got 120hp, 210K miles, an original auto tranny. (oh yeah, its faster than m3's too:D)

uhh, what kind of accord was this again?
i've beat accords (recent ones) in my 328.


my stock 328, on heavy ass big rims.


oh yeah and honda's rock, i drive a 1989 honda accord LX-i in the winter. Its got 120hp, 210K miles, an original auto tranny. (oh yeah, its faster than m3's too:D)

'04 EX V6 6-speed. You probably raced an auto or a 4-cylinder.

gggggaaaaaaaaaaaay

gggggaaaaaaaaaaaay


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Really?

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Really?

pwned :lol

Mat Total Pwnage

true, on the DOHC honda engine it does this on both the intake and exhaust cams. on the SOHC engines, its only on the intake. The accord is SOHC. The only DOHC honda V6 is the NSX engine. The next generation v-tec has 3 stages. How is this different than the BMW vanos system? Im not sure how it works.

vanos actually varies the timing of the cam shaft rotation using chains and geometric trickery. While the lobes are always identical in shape and degree open close, etc, their position relative to the piston/crank position can be varied slightly. As I remember, what happens is, at low rpms, the cam is at default timing compared to the crank. In the mid-range(starting between 3.5k and 4k I think), the cam is advanced, opening the intake (single vanos) a bit earlier, and actually allowing some of the burnt exhaust gases to mix with incoming air. Apparently this greatly cleans up exhaust products (cleaner engine) and produces more power, possibly making use of unburnt fuel, but don't quote me on that, I might remember wrong. I'm not sure what dual vanos does on the exhaust side, whether it also opens it sooner or later, or how it acts based on rpms. Anyway, single vanos, once the rpms reach the higher end of things, around 5k rpms, the timing of the cams is again returned to the more default setting, opening the valves later, rather than sooner, which is better for power production on the top end.

Note the interesting difference. vtec is either on or off... it either uses regular lobes or agressive lobes, no middle ground. Vanos has a range, as it can change the delay between the crank and cam positions continuously by a few degrees. If anyone is really curious, I'll look up dual vanos and see what the exhaust does. Hell, I might anyway for myself, I'm a nerd. :shifty

Oh, and I don't remember what the various stages for the vtec were... might want to look into that. DOHC vtec will be sick, and I do think they use it on some other engines, not just the NSX, right? I think some of the older ones actually used it, like the prelude?

you saying that is the only reason I wrote it.. if ANYONE thought that was entertaining, I'm happy.

I apologize to anyone who does not want to admit to themselves that their stock M3 (remember Aren has intake and full catback exhaust with Shark programming) is rivaled by my rice patty :buttrock

I was madly entertained :) I <3 u

pwned :lol

:rofl :)


EDIT: just checked... 3 stage vtec actually involves changing the number of valves used. I don't care to remember specifics at this point (hungry) but at low demand, only one of the two intake valves is depressed by normal lobe... basically running one valve per cylinder. Under slightly greater demand, higher rpms, both valves are used on the normal cam lobe profiles. Under max expectation/demand, both get depressed extra by the aggressive cam.

EDIT II: Honda is f'in brilliant.... I believe that the vtec system has insanely low reported failures... something like 0 :shifty can someone back this up?

i just want to see honda accord driftz

i just want to see honda accord driftz

easy.... use reverse :D

UPDATE:

double-vanos >> single-vanos

not only does it do the variable timing on both intake and exhaust cams, but it continuously varies it across RPM range and also depending on throttle position. single-vanos only changes intake timing at two distinct RPM points.

basically, double vanos optimizes for fuel economy if your throttle isn't pushed down far.... but will say "screw saving gas" and give you all the torque the engine can muster at that RPM by adjusting the cam timing on intake and exhaust as best it can.

thus, BMW is brilliant too... it just took them till the e46 to get something really cool :(

madness - you are right. Honda has made several DOHC Vtec 4 cylinder engines. I was thinking that the NSX was the only DOHC Vtec V6. Even the new RL with 300 hp is still SOHC.
Yes honda engineers are amazing, they were the first ones to make variable valve timing (or lift) in a production vehicle in 1989. Lamborghini was the first to copy them in 1991. In the coming years, we will see honda/acura becoming a more serious competition as they move to the TL and Accord with the SHAWD, and more rear wheel drive cars.

Meh, in comparison, there's the fact that the M3 is still 10 years older. Compare to a 2004 M3. Just occurred to me, not brand hating, just that the accord seems built for a different purpose :help:

then compare $50k to $22k
And you're right, my car is the "sport" family car, lol.

damnz...this thread sucks....teacher are not allowed here...i write like that but just in school...I DO NOT BELIEVE YOUR STORY!!!

I BELIEVE IT!

but i also believe mystergoode sucks ass

damnz...this thread sucks....teacher are not allowed here...i write like that but just in school...I DO NOT BELIEVE YOUR STORY!!!

:alright

Wow bad writing masked by frequent and superficial use of a pedant's vocabulary. As for the substance of the "story," tasteless BS comes to mind.

Wow bad writing masked by frequent and superficial use of a pedant's vocabulary. As for the substance of the "story," tasteless BS comes to mind.

:buttrock

edit: I forgot to tell you how awesome you are!

tasteless is your mouth after I face-f**k you until it is numb :)

:buttrock



Well not all of us can "rule" enough to throw that particular emoticon... Nice use of vocab, but this isn't the LSAT. Effective writing is about using the right word, not the biggest. Still, I may have been too hard on you. I apologize. I applaud any effort to write something other than: OMG I pwned. LORZ. IFYM Acord FTW

tasteless is your mouth after I face-f**k you until it is numb :)

No... That usually tastes like blood and semen. Just ask your mother.

ohhhhhhhhhhhh buuuuuurn

kekekekekekekekeke ^__^

No... That usually tastes like blood and semen. Just ask your mother.

she's dead, thanks

good kill, we have haters on this board that dont bother to search....

then compare $50k to $22k
And you're right, my car is the "sport" family car, lol.
I thought the 7G accord ex v6 was about 30k?

My mum has a 240 HP Accord with a 6 speed. I drove it around for a week while I was visiting last month. 1) It gets off the line like a bus. 2) From a roll, its no where near as quick as my 240 HP M Roadster. 3) It handles like a bus. 4) It feels completely uninspiring.

Regardless of whether it beat an S52 M3 from a roll, it's an Accord. Which car would you rather been seen in? Yup, 'nuff said.

^ That's pretty arrogant. Before you compare to your 2800lb roadster, consider that the Accord has more luxury amenities, more trunk space, and can easily seat 5.

^ That's pretty arrogant. Before you compare to your 2800lb roadster, consider that the Accord has more luxury amenities, more trunk space, and can easily seat 5.
I think hes just referring to the fact that generally speaking the Accord is an economy car and BMW is a luxury car. They dont compare well. Perhaps he was a little harsh.

My mum has a 240 HP Accord with a 6 speed. I drove it around for a week while I was visiting last month. 1) It gets off the line like a bus. 2) From a roll, its no where near as quick as my 240 HP M Roadster. 3) It handles like a bus. 4) It feels completely uninspiring.

Regardless of whether it beat an S52 M3 from a roll, it's an Accord. Which car would you rather been seen in? Yup, 'nuff said.
i personally would rather be seen in accord they look nice, to me roadster looks like miata.....'nuff said.

i personally would rather be seen in accord they look nice, to me roadster looks like miata.....'nuff said.
liar or you would own a honda (GAG!!) instead of an 04 e46. but whatever to each her own, some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.

This is the type of shit I'm sick of. Honestly I can't wait to dump my e36 and pick up an s2k.

:alright


i had a civic way back....but not an accord, thank god!....accords look slow and they are slow...no matter what year, they're still slow...:D

My mum has a 240 HP Accord with a 6 speed. I drove it around for a week while I was visiting last month. 1) It gets off the line like a bus. 2) From a roll, its no where near as quick as my 240 HP M Roadster. 3) It handles like a bus. 4) It feels completely uninspiring.

Regardless of whether it beat an S52 M3 from a roll, it's an Accord. Which car would you rather been seen in? Yup, 'nuff said.

+1 I test drove one and wasnt all that impressed.

Im sure this was a proud day for you and your honda family

This is the type of shit I'm sick of. Honestly I can't wait to dump my e36 and pick up an s2k.

what do you mean? That guys would be biased on a BMW board....no way! Cmon, if Honda is your thing, nothin wrong with that. Just don't be salty on a bimmer board. I'm sure if we went on one of the ricer forums they would be all yo yo yo no way an m thrizzle is fast as my accord especially with my new shopping cart of a wing on it! Those german loving wannabees don't even know.....um yo, yo! I heard the nav system in the accord does add like 3 1/2 horsepower. :redspot

then compare $50k to $22k
And you're right, my car is the "sport" family car, lol.

Compare anything but straight line, and your car is just a big cheap boat.


Oh and :rofl :rofl I cannot belive you call that plastic piece of shit boat a sports car. Get real - even the M3 isn't a sports car, it's a luxury enthusiast car.
One question - you got one of these ricer dual exhausts sticking out of your "sports car"?
http://www.fastcoolcars.com/images/import9/98acc4.jpg
:rofl
Cuz I mean, that's mad tyte JDM style right there, YO!





And before the obligatory Focus comments come - I haven't said anywhere that my car is a sports car(the reason why I bashed him), even though I'll do circles around you in what matters most - twisties. My car is a grocery getter, that is getting turned into a gokart.

That's not even the right Accord ^

This is the type of shit I'm sick of. Honestly I can't wait to dump my e36 and pick up an s2k.

have fun buddy.

im not going to lie.. those s2k's are pretty fun cars....id rather have an mroadster, but im a bimmernut.

id be more impressed if be beat an e46 M3... maybe the 10th generation accord will be able to do that.

^ That's pretty arrogant. Before you compare to your 2800lb roadster, consider that the Accord has more luxury amenities, more trunk space, and can easily seat 5.

BMW says it's 3,084 lbs....but regardless I wasn't comparing anything but performance, which is what this thread is all about.

I was only comparing the two because I own a MZ3 (with the same motor as the S52 M3) and have recently driven the 6 speed 240 HP accord. Im sure the Accord weighs more than the MZ3, but the M3 probably weighs a lot less than the Accord.

I think the performance of the MZ3 and M3 are fairly similar which makes it hard to believe this story given that I have driven the Accord, which yes, is the perfect economy car - outstanding reliability and very comfortable, etc.

It's nothing amazing really... and it's nothing unbelievable either.

Both weigh ~3200 lb, both make 240 hp.

And the Accord is geared better too...


As for being sick of the bimmer stereotype, it's not because I'm not a bimmerhead... I've had 5 and owned nothing but bimmers since I got my license nearly 7 years ago.

wow, some of you people are such arrogant assholes, I'm ashamed to call you fellow enthusiasts. WHy don't you loosen up your sphincters and learn to take a joke? Are you guys too good for that? just as an FYI, BMW isn't the best thing that God ever gave this good green earth, nor does the fact that you own one give you the athority to look down on everyone else.

And on the eight day god made rice, and saw that it was good.

There is a lot of description but it reaches the point where it is unnecessary. It almost sounds as if the author is trying too hard to paint a picture in our heads. Of course you need to draw an outline to the reader but once you begin to get too in depth with each little thing it takes away from the imagination of the reader, in turn making it less vibrant in their own minds. I'm not saying this is true, it is just how I feel.

Sounds like the OP went to the Robert Jordan school of writing, heh.

As far as Accords go, I love Accords. I've had three of them so far, all superb dependable vehicles, and fun to drive. Not M3 fun by far, but better than driving a Buick or something heh. I love the 4G coupe styling (90-93) best. I also love my bimmers. There's no rule that says you can't like more than one kind of vehicle ya know :)

Well not all of us can "rule" enough to throw that particular emoticon... Nice use of vocab, but this isn't the LSAT. Effective writing is about using the right word, not the biggest. Still, I may have been too hard on you. I apologize. I applaud any effort to write something other than: OMG I pwned. LORZ. IFYM Acord FTW

he was having fun and you missed that the first time around, and actually took it seriously :stickoutt I think he knows that on a forum like this, even a truly great writer would get bitched out by someone naive (not you, but others who think all quality writing is bullshit to keep in the books, not the intarweb) that the OP would probably never bother to really try to get noticed for writing quality

This is the type of shit I'm sick of. Honestly I can't wait to dump my e36 and pick up an s2k.

+1 so sad... what happened happened, why can't people take what's put up and deal?

what do you mean? That guys would be biased on a BMW board....no way! Cmon, if Honda is your thing, nothin wrong with that. Just don't be salty on a bimmer board. I'm sure if we went on one of the ricer forums they would be all yo yo yo no way an m thrizzle is fast as my accord especially with my new shopping cart of a wing on it! Those german loving wannabees don't even know.....um yo, yo! I heard the nav system in the accord does add like 3 1/2 horsepower. :redspot

yup... everyone goes where they think is best, and then sticks to it, putting down all potential indications that they are wrong. it takes wisedom to drop this stupid human instinct.

wow, some of you people are such arrogant assholes, I'm ashamed to call you fellow enthusiasts. WHy don't you loosen up your sphincters and learn to take a joke? Are you guys too good for that? just as an FYI, BMW isn't the best thing that God ever gave this good green earth, nor does the fact that you own one give you the athority to look down on everyone else.

yeah. note what I said to the above quote. unfortunately people can't get over simple primitive psychological biases... well, they could, I don't think they try. some people just enjoy feeling elite, I guess, even ignorantly so.

Wow guys! Be nice! I think it was a really well written story. And hey, I was getting my arse handed to me by quite a large V-6 V-tec powered Acura Sedan while piloting the Z4 3.0si (255 hp 3,100 pound sports car) at Summit Point. Given that it was my first time, and he was an excellent driver (at least by comparisson to me, since we were still in the novice group) I'm not suprised . . . but it was even pulling on me in the straights. It was bone stock--or so he said. I got a look at it and couldn't see anything other than his track tires (something I lacked).

Oh, and don't even begin to diss the Honda name by talking about the S-2000 in any disrespectful way (none of you did so far, but it's a Honda!). I can't touch them with a ten-foot pole at auto-x events, and I'm a decent auto-xer. Even in the Z4 3.0 si (no, it's not a Honda Z4) which is in the same class I can't come close.

Gotta hand it to the Honda guys every once in a while. You can't be a car enthusiast if you only look at what you've got with any shred of respect. You have to like a bit of everything. Otherwise, you're just a BMW enthusiast (they make like, what, nine cars? ten tops? All really good, don't get me wrong, but there are other nice cars out there.) If you can't learn to listen to other people talk about their cars with pride here (or anywhere), then don't respond to them or don't read what they have to say. How dare you call yourselves enthusiasts?



















Why did you stab him in the chest? :confused

Accord V6 < US E36 M3

V6 EX Accord ftw! lol.

Any doubters of this car are crazy. Same power as the US e36 m3, better gear ratios and its a lighter car.

you now have made all of us dumber, you are awarded no points and may god have mercy on your soul!

EDIT II: Honda is f'in brilliant.... I believe that the vtec system has insanely low reported failures... something like 0 :shifty can someone back this up?

They fail. Things go wrong, but it can often be an easy fix (dirty oil screen causing V-tec to not activate, faulty V-tec servos, low or otherwise incorrect oil levels, etc).

Haha, I had a friend once who took his Integra Type-R and added 4 quarts of oil because he said he didn't see any oil on the dipstick. He thought the car was completely out of oil and read in the manual that it took 4 quarts. It turned out that he had like 6 or 7 quarts in it after the fill!! :rolleyes

Needless to say, that car did not run right. We were screwing around on a back road while he tried to burn some off (I told him to just drain the stupid thing and put new oil in) and I was able to dust him in my 2.3 Z3. I can, and have, taken Integras at the drag strip, but I don't think that I can normally beat a Type-R, or GS-R (or whatever the denomination is for the top-dog Integra).

you now have made all of us dumber, you are awarded no points and may god have mercy on your soul!

What is wrong with you people? :rolleyes

The Integra Type R is about as fast as my M3. They're like 190 or 195 hp and weigh like 2500 lb. Probably one of the top 3 most fun cars i've ever driven for sure

[QUOTE=madness;7891493]he was having fun and you missed that the first time around, and actually took it seriously :stickoutt I think he knows that on a forum like this, even a truly great writer would get bitched out by someone naive (not you, but others who think all quality writing is bullshit to keep in the books, not the intarweb) that the OP would probably never bother to really try to get noticed for writing quality

Mark, you summed it up... I think you'd have to know me to understand that it was supposed to be corny... for fuck sake, I reference Aphrodite... Anyway, cheers for the suppowt, nukka.

That's a hilarious story. Good job.

whats with hondas? i think they are pretty nice cars... by no means are they luxury and built just like BMW's. but they can be pretty quick!! and also, the word honda does not mean rice. most of you guys automatically assume that. how sad.

how many times have that retarded picture of that ridiculous picture have been posted in reference to the word "honda"? too many effing times thats for sure. christ sakes... fan boys...

rice was originally started by some white kids with no money and wanted to look cool. if you ever been to japan, it is a rare site to see trashy modified cars like some of the japanese cars from america. and just because you drive a bmw, doesnt mean you got money to make fun of import cars. most of you guys bought your cars "used" which are pretty dam cheap. it costs less than a brand new civic thats for sure. lol

he was having fun and you missed that the first time around, and actually took it seriously :stickoutt I think he knows that on a forum like this, even a truly great writer would get bitched out by someone naive (not you, but others who think all quality writing is bullshit to keep in the books, not the intarweb) that the OP would probably never bother to really try to get noticed for writing quality

Mark, you summed it up... I think you'd have to know me to understand that it was supposed to be corny... for fuck sake, I reference Aphrodite... Anyway, cheers for the suppowt, nukka.

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Accord V6 < US E36 M3

V6 EX Accord ftw! lol.

Any doubters of this car are crazy. Same power as the US e36 m3, better gear ratios and its a lighter car.

The latest Accord Coupe V6 6 speed has 244 hp and 211 lbs of tq with a curb weight of 3300lbs.

The E36 M3 has 240 hp 236 lbs. of tq and a curb weight of 3100 lbs.

The E36 M3 gets by the Accord in the 1/4 mile by a few tenths, at the higher range the E36 pulls again, and anything after the 100-110 range, see ya later BIG TIME. That kick from 110 on to the stupid damn limiter I need to get rid of is awesome in the E36 M3. I do realize not that many race into that range, but it is one facet where it's not even close. Believe it or not, my brother's 2002 24V VR6 GTI edged out an Accord 6 speed in the high speed range. And yes it was a stick, many identifiers such as the rims and red lettering on the back to ID it.

Price wise, an Accord coupe EXL V6 manual with all the goodies (lthr, mnrf etc) is $30,000 while an E36 M3 was $43,000 in 1999! The resale of an Accord is good, however the M3 is one of the exceptions where it has a better resale value.

We won't even begin to talk about the balance and handling, and as refined as an Accord is (they really are a smooth car), it still isn't near an E36 M3, let alone an E46 or new E92. It does have an awesome gearbox though.

The Accord is a great car, hell a quick car, but both of these are made for 2 different reasons. Neither was made for drag racing! Both have the luxury options, but the M3 is more pure GT sports car, while the Accord is more touring.

The latest Accord Coupe V6 6 speed has 244 hp and 211 lbs of tq with a curb weight of 3300lbs.

The E36 M3 has 240 hp 236 lbs. of tq and a curb weight of 3100 lbs.

The E36 M3 gets by the Accord in the 1/4 mile by a few tenths, at the higher range the E36 pulls again, and anything after the 100-110 range, see ya later BIG TIME. That kick from 110 on to the stupid damn limiter I need to get rid of is awesome in the E36 M3. I do realize not that many race into that range, but it is one facet where it's not even close. Believe it or not, my brother's 2002 24V VR6 GTI edged out an Accord 6 speed in the high speed range. And yes it was a stick, many identifiers such as the rims and red lettering on the back to ID it.

Price wise, an Accord coupe EXL V6 manual with all the goodies (lthr, mnrf etc) is $30,000 while an E36 M3 was $43,000 in 1999! The resale of an Accord is good, however the M3 is one of the exceptions where it has a better resale value.

We won't even begin to talk about the balance and handling, and as refined as an Accord is (they really are a smooth car), it still isn't near an E36 M3, let alone an E46 or new E92. It does have an awesome gearbox though.

The Accord is a great car, hell a quick car, but both of these are made for 2 different reasons. Neither was made for drag racing! Both have the luxury options, but the M3 is more pure GT sports car, while the Accord is more touring.

100% agree'd... but setting your number aside, my experience with other e36 M3's (I've only raced 2 from a roll) shows it to be neck and neck.

Compare anything but straight line, and your car is just a big cheap boat.


Oh and :rofl :rofl I cannot belive you call that plastic piece of shit boat a sports car. Get real - even the M3 isn't a sports car, it's a luxury enthusiast car.
One question - you got one of these ricer dual exhausts sticking out of your "sports car"?
http://www.fastcoolcars.com/images/import9/98acc4.jpg
:rofl
Cuz I mean, that's mad tyte JDM style right there, YO!





And before the obligatory Focus comments come - I haven't said anywhere that my car is a sports car(the reason why I bashed him), even though I'll do circles around you in what matters most - twisties. My car is a grocery getter, that is getting turned into a gokart.

Don't be so intimidated chief, no one is questioning how much of a "man" you are :redspot

100% agree'd... but setting your number aside, my experience with other e36 M3's (I've only raced 2 from a roll) shows it to be neck and neck.

also add to your neck and neck races with a lighter m roadster

You fucked me up, Tony, why do I want to mention that... shit was not neck and neck, lol

You might win if you race from home to the grocery story and back....but only from a roll because from a dig you'd obviously lose bad.

You might win if you race from home to the grocery story and back....but only from a roll because from a dig you'd obviously lose bad.

.....OMGURITE< LAWLIPOS!

:buttrock