Can anyone point me in the direction of where to get a Euro S50B32? I need all electronics plus the 6 speed and driveshaft would be helpful. I saw bimmerworld has them but they are all on "backorder". Thanks for the help.

Oh, and what is required to put this into a 95 M3 in terms of disabling the EWS? Thanks.

Can anyone point me in the direction of where to get a Euro S50B32? I need all electronics plus the 6 speed and driveshaft would be helpful.

And don't forget about the radiator, expansion tank, hoses, about about fifty other small parts if you want the conversion to be complete and correct :)

Rob

This is easier ;)

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=621943

www.ABLOriginalParts.com

Alex Lipowich sells ALL the euro goodies!

This is easier ;)

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=621943

Steve - the poster is looking for an S50B32 not an S50B30. As you know - very few people would start out making a race car with an S50B30!


+1 for Alex Lipowich and www.abloriginalparts.com

Thanks everyone!! Hopefully tomorrow I can get one coming my direction.

Oh and I have one other question. Does anyone know if the ltw/gt oil pan will fit the S50B32? Thanks.

Is this for a dedicated racecar?

What about S54....

Yes, it is my winter project right now. I am not quite sure what class I can build it to if I wanted to later race in certain events. Over the next year I just want to drive at DE events and some PCA events since that is where my work is.

All Euro 3.2s should have the dual sump pan...it was standard.

Yes, it is my winter project right now. I am not quite sure what class I can build it to if I wanted to later race in certain events. Over the next year I just want to drive at DE events and some PCA events since that is where my work is.

Well if its a euro 3.2 transplant, you will pretty much be in Mod class in BMWCCA, and probably any other series will be in a fairly modified class.

So definitely make sure you are ready to pony up the cash for a mod car if you want to race competitively.

If its going to just be a fun track car, do what you need to to make it reliable and a good teaching car.

You can get a US S54 w/ tranny for the same or very similar money. Honestly, it seems a bit silly to do a Euro S50/2 at this point.

Yes, the LTW/GT pan will fit, its the same pan on all S50B32s.

You can get a US S54 w/ tranny for the same or very similar money. Honestly, it seems a bit silly to do a Euro S50/2 at this point.

Definitely go S54 if ya can ;)

I have been such a huge fan of the euro motors for so long. And now that I can actually afford to do this I still want that S50B32. The S54 just doesn't seem as "special" over here in the states.

But I will look into it. I will see what is out there in terms of aftermarket engine internals for both engines. I can't let this go in stock now can I....

Anyone have any experience with taking the Vanos out of the S54?

There is something to be said for simplicity and ease of installation.

The euro S50B30 or S50B32 can be dropped right into any US spec car with a minimum of fuss.

For someone considering racing in NASA actually the S50B30 might prove to be a VERY reasonable choice as its power in stock form is exceptional, its reliablity incredible, and you could spend very little money on lightening your car to be in the top of your class. I personally would rather race a boneyard S50B30 engine all day long compared to any modified single throttle body US spec engine that also made 286 HP at the crank. The programability, the redline, the sold lifters and everything make for a far, far better engine for racing.

The S50B30 has nice potential as an easy de-stroke project for a killer DM engine in BMW CR

Alex Lipowich

Well if its a euro 3.2 transplant, you will pretty much be in Mod class in BMWCCA, and probably any other series will be in a fairly modified class.

So definitely make sure you are ready to pony up the cash for a mod car if you want to race competitively.

I always laugh when I see comments like this. Just run what you brung. Regardless of the class on the side of the car, you always end up racing with the cars next to you. If you want a euro powered car, then build a euro powered car. If you decide to race, yes, you will most likely be in Mod. But nothing says you can't build a C Mod light car. You can run Toyos if you want. Most new racers are surprised at the speed diff as compared to DEs. Most were fast in DEs and very rarely got passed... then they see a J Stock M3 turning faster laps. Very few rookies show up and win no matter how much car they bring.

BMW CR is more about fun than talent. As I always say... PTG is not searching BMW CR for its next drivers. Most of us are no where close to the abilities of our cars... me inlcuded.

Vince

I always laugh when I see comments like this. Just run what you brung. Regardless of the class on the side of the car, you always end up racing with the cars next to you. If you want a euro powered car, then build a euro powered car. If you decide to race, yes, you will most likely be in Mod. But nothing says you can't build a C Mod light car. You can run Toyos if you want. Most new racers are surprised at the speed diff as compared to DEs. Most were fast in DEs and very rarely got passed... then they see a J Stock M3 turning faster laps. Very few rookies show up and win no matter how much car they bring.

BMW CR is more about fun than talent. As I always say... PTG is not searching BMW CR for its next drivers. Most of us are no where close to the abilities of our cars... me inlcuded.

Vince

:werd:

Yes, the LTW/GT pan will fit, its the same pan on all S50B32s.
Almost. They're very similar, but not quite the same. 1 other note - do not unscrew the front drain plug on the GT/LTW pan when changing your oil per the BMW TIS. The 3.2L pan doesn't have a drain plug for the front sump area (plus some other cosmetic/dimensional differences).

Well if its a euro 3.2 transplant, you will pretty much be in Mod class in BMWCCA, and probably any other series will be in a fairly modified class.

So definitely make sure you are ready to pony up the cash for a mod car if you want to race competitively.


Ummm - try again. Check the 2007 rules - Euro motors allowed in E36 chassis in HP next year. S50 B32 at a weight (including driver) of 3200. This is a POTENT HP contender so go ahead and build away! www.abloriginalparts.com has a bunch right now I believe.

Page 78 in yellow:
http://www.bmwccaclubracing.com/static/2006Series/Rules/rules_2007_v12-1_061029.pdf

Ok tried again, see it, thanks. I was assuming he would be doing a lot of other "mod" related stuff as well, but I guess you can now built a hybrid prep car, thats pretty cool.

I just built a HP class car and GTS 3, Dropped a Euro 3.2 in my IP car. I may sell it as I am not racing as much. I don't want it to just sit in the shop.

PH

Is the B32 worth 300lbs over the B30?

Is the B32 worth 300lbs over the B30?
The real question is "why wouldn't you run an E46 M3?" With the kind of tire that thing can run, the aero, and the fact that it comes pre-assembled, it's hard to argue with in HP.

Ummm - try again. Check the 2007 rules - Euro motors allowed in E36 chassis in HP next year. S50 B32 at a weight (including driver) of 3200. This is a POTENT HP contender so go ahead and build away! www.abloriginalparts.com has a bunch right now I believe.

Page 78 in yellow:
http://www.bmwccaclubracing.com/static/2006Series/Rules/rules_2007_v12-1_061029.pdf


You know, this sounds like an awesome idea. It's just too bad that in BMWCCA Club Racing, once you've installed a cage to Mod specs...you're screwed for any of the lower classes.

It would be awesome if all classes could have cages built freely to move up or down in class.

With NASA, this isn't an issue at all. BMW really needs to consider this option IMHO!

Ken Arutunian

Ken - The logistics of allowing "free cages" in every class just don't make sense to me...that seriously drives up the cost of entry for a competitive Prepared car (I wouldn't want to see the cost of our cage if we had just showed up at RRT and asked for the "full monty"). The performance benefits of running the cage to suspension points and through the firewall would be a competitive advantage to the racers who choose to do so. I thought folks were already complaining about the cost to go racing in Prepared and SE36...

On top of that, in Prepared or SE36, you'd want to go wild with adding heavy bars in all of the right places to lower your CG and balance the car since you are running at a minimum weight...that wouldn't at all translate into a good cage for moving up to Mod (which happens a lot more than racers moving down a class) where there is no minimum weight. Besides, there's nothing that says you can't cut a cage out of a car and start over...we've done it. ;)

In the end, there's nothing that prevents a new racer from underbuilding the cage for Mod to allow the flexibility of moving down in the future as well.

Ken - The logistics of allowing "free cages" in every class just don't make sense to me...that seriously drives up the cost of entry for a competitive Prepared car (I wouldn't want to see the cost of our cage if we had just showed up at RRT and asked for the "full monty"). The performance benefits of running the cage to suspension points and through the firewall would be a competitive advantage to the racers who choose to do so. I thought folks were already complaining about the cost to go racing in Prepared and SE36...

On top of that, in Prepared or SE36, you'd want to go wild with adding heavy bars in all of the right places to lower your CG and balance the car since you are running at a minimum weight...that wouldn't at all translate into a good cage for moving up to Mod (which happens a lot more than racers moving down a class) where there is no minimum weight. Besides, there's nothing that says you can't cut a cage out of a car and start over...we've done it. ;)

In the end, there's nothing that prevents a new racer from underbuilding the cage for Mod to allow the flexibility of moving down in the future as well.


Yeah, I see your point. It would work for ME though. LOL

Ken

S54 swap. Well there's a reason you don't see many of them. Like the headers won't fit in an E36 for starters. Good luck on getting the wiring to work unless you pitch it all for an aftermarket system.

Big thumbs up for Alex as a source of a euro motor. He is a good guy and knows this well.

S54 M-coupe and E46 M3 have the same exhaust manifold part numbers. :dunno