ok not sure on the year of the clk430, but it was the previous bodystle, like 2000-2003 around there.

started out, northbound on the 405 around johnwayne.

porsche cruizing about 60, right lane like a pussy,
i come up on them both, the clk is trying to ge the porsche to race.

i get next to the clk, (middle lane) and he downshifts and takes off, gets about a car length on me then i slam 3rd and take it to the top of 4th
(like 60-120?) and end up pulling 3cl's total. with him 2 cl's back

at that point we slow down and here comes the 911! comes outa nowhere full a blaze and the clk and I both downshift and go and the 911 pulls so hard it cuts us both off and bails, then slows down to get a even race out of us,
we line up and i get the jump thiis time (Again about 60mph start) i hit 3rd pull like 2 cls on him then him proceedes to put like 7 cls on me and shuts down and gets off the free way.

me and clk continue to go at it awhile longer, while i finnaly take mine to top of 5th and ditch him and his girls ass behind! fun stuff!

Wish I could find cars like that around here to race. Idaho sucks.

good kill.. and good getting killed.. you should have took his girl haha..

damn, i always thought clk 430's had shitloads of torque.

Anyone know the difference in performance and specs of the clk430 and that bodystyle clk55? It wasn't supercharged at that time, correct?

The OP's mods definitely helped him. Good run.Anyone know the difference in performance and specs of the clk430 and that bodystyle clk55? It wasn't supercharged at that time, correct?The difference is nite and day and no it's not supercharged. Good driver in the CLK430 can run high 13's low 14's so this can be a drivers race advantage to M3 especially if modded.

The 55 is a low 13 sec car.Ask me how I know!:D

Good kill on the CLK! Looks like the manifold is giving you quite a bit of power.

I have a friend who has a CLK430 and I ride in it quite a bit. It is
torquey. If you're in an E36 M3 it would be close but you'd have to
nail your shifts. The CLK is an auto. All he does is push the go pedal.
Boring. In any type of a curve your M3 will destroy the 430. Well if you
can drive that is. But, why race some goofball who only brings to the
table pushing a pedal?
If I was in a 996tt I'd not have bothered wasting my gas. You at least now
have an appreciation for turbocharged Porsches.

Good kill of the M-B. Those aren't drivers cars!

Not a bad loss to the Porsche. With just a chip those things can put out close to 500 HP. Even in stock form they're crazy fast!

Good kill of the M-B. Those aren't drivers cars!


And a Volvo and Xterra are?:confused


You're telling me that MB's are'nt drivers cars Noob! WATCH,LOOK and LEARN! Now Stck or Modded I say they do just fine!

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And a Volvo and Xterra are?:confused


You're telling me that MB's are'nt drivers cars Noob! WATCH,LOOK and LEARN! Now Stck or Modded I say they do just fine!

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That's just a video of a bunch of AMG cars powersliding around turns. How does that make it a driver's car?

When I can row my own gears in one I'll consider it a driver's car. It's still a great car, but not a driver's car.

Also I don't see in his post where he said anything about an Xterra or Volvo being any better, worse, or anything else for that matter.

That's just a video of a bunch of AMG cars powersliding around turns. How does that make it a driver's car?

When I can row my own gears in one I'll consider it a driver's car. It's still a great car, but not a driver's car.

Also I don't see in his post where he said anything about an Xterra or Volvo being any better, worse, or anything else for that matter. How is it not a drivers car?

Because it does'nt have a mani tranny ,to you it means it's not a drivers car? Mmmm,I wonder what you think about the E60 M5 then!:confused What ,paddle shifters!

Does that mean it's not a drivers car? The AMG does'nt have SMG but they do have paddle shifters as well.

How is it not a drivers car?

Because it does'nt have a mani tranny ,to you it means it's not a drivers car? Mmmm,I wonder what you think about the E60 M5 then!:confused What ,paddle shifters!

Does that mean it's not a drivers car? The AMG does'nt have SMG but they do have paddle shifters as well.

Yes, to me that's what it means. SMG is not an automatic transmission, and the AMG's paddle shifters are just buttons attached to the tiptronic system. There is a vast difference:

In the M5 if you are in second in manual mode and you're near redline and decide not to shift - for whatever reason that may be - then the car will not shift. It will bounce the rev limiter and stay in second. In the AMG it will just shift for you. The AMG does what it thinks is best for you, not what you tell it to. In the AMG you press the "paddle shifter" which sends a message requesting the next gear to the transmission computer. The computer then decides if your decision is correct or not, and finally goes through with the action. SMG does have a bit of a fail safe in that it won't let you downshift into a gear that will send your engine into the red, but that's about it. It doesn't try and think for you. This subtle difference makes the driver's car difference.

A friend of mine has an SL55. It's an amazing car, power like crazy, a beautiful interior, great flat handling, but it isn't a driver's car.

Yes, to me that's what it means. SMG is not an automatic transmission, and the AMG's paddle shifters are just buttons attached to the tiptronic system. There is a vast difference:

In the M5 if you are in second in manual mode and you're near redline and decide not to shift - for whatever reason that may be - then the car will not shift. It will bounce the rev limiter and stay in second. In the AMG it will just shift for you. The AMG does what it thinks is best for you, not what you tell it to. In the AMG you press the "paddle shifter" which sends a message requesting the next gear to the transmission computer. The computer then decides if your decision is correct or not, and finally goes through with the action. SMG does have a bit of a fail safe in that it won't let you downshift into a gear that will send your engine into the red, but that's about it. It doesn't try and think for you. This subtle difference makes the driver's car difference.

A friend of mine has an SL55. It's an amazing car, power like crazy, a beautiful interior, great flat handling, but it isn't a driver's car.Transmission function I agree! To say it's not a drivers car, to each his own! I love mine and would put it on the track no problem! So I guess that an Auto E39 M5 would not be a drivers car by your definition as well!

Transmission function I agree! To say it's not a drivers car, to each his own! I love mine and would put it on the track no problem! So I guess that an Auto E39 M5 would not be a drivers car by your definition as well!

E39 M5 was never available with anything but the 6 speed, at least in the US. Can't say for other areas around the world. FWIW, I feel the auto E36 M3 is much less a driver's car than the standard transmission version that is so popular.

I'm not even talking about one being better than the other - like I said the SL55 is a fantastic car. It does wonders around a road course as well. Being a driver's car is all about the experience. Having total control over all the systems you have access to, road feel, steering feel, feedback from everything. Many of the Mercedes cars from the factory come a bit numb, just because most are bought by Doctors and Lawyers who want nothing to do with road feel or feedback. If Mercedes put something like the SMG system in some of their ultra-sport cars I think BMW and Porsche would have a lot more to contend with in competition.

E39 M5 was never available with anything but the 6 speed, at least in the US. Can't say for other areas around the world. FWIW, I feel the auto E36 M3 is much less a driver's car than the standard transmission version that is so popular.

I'm not even talking about one being better than the other - like I said the SL55 is a fantastic car. It does wonders around a road course as well. Being a driver's car is all about the experience. Having total control over all the systems you have access to, road feel, steering feel, feedback from everything. Many of the Mercedes cars from the factory come a bit numb, just because most are bought by Doctors and Lawyers who want nothing to do with road feel or feedback. If Mercedes put something like the SMG system in some of their ultra-sport cars I think BMW and Porsche would have a lot more to contend with in competition.OK Understood!:)

In my view benz = primarily luxury with big engine, bmw = primarily sporty with luxury. AMG and M are both sick cars, to each his own.

Benz's philosophies about a drivers car differ from what BMW defines as a drivers car. Obviously BMW's are better driver cars than Benz's, but Benz's, even AMG's are still tuned for day-to-day use.

I've read bout some disenchanted M car owners who loved their cars but found them too hard-edged for day to day use and thought that Benz's/AMG's provided a better ballance b/w everyday useabilty and performance.

To each his own.

Oh, and Benz's new 7G tranny is very well calibrated for spirited driving and in manual mode will bounce off the rev limiter. From my experience w/ it and based on reviews the transmission is almost telepathic about its shifts and performs flawlessly.

I got into a debate w/ guys in the CLK forum on mbworld a few weeks back about the E36 M3 vs. CLK430. Most of them believed that stock for stock a CLK430 would win. IMO from a dig a M3 would pull away thru the q/m, but from a rolling start a CLK430 might win.

Benz's philosophies about a drivers car differ from what BMW defines as a drivers car. Obviously BMW's are better driver cars than Benz's, but Benz's, even AMG's are still tuned for day-to-day use.

I've read bout some disenchanted M car owners who loved their cars but found them too hard-edged for day to day use and thought that Benz's/AMG's provided a better ballance b/w everyday useabilty and performance.

To each his own.

Oh, and Benz's new 7G tranny is very well calibrated for spirited driving and in manual mode will bounce off the rev limiter. From my experience w/ it and based on reviews the transmission is almost telepathic about its shifts and performs flawlessly.

I got into a debate w/ guys in the CLK forum on mbworld a few weeks back about the E36 M3 vs. CLK430. Most of them believed that stock for stock a CLK430 would win. IMO from a dig a M3 would pull away thru the q/m, but from a rolling start a CLK430 might win.I approve this post!;)

Benz's philosophies about a drivers car differ from what BMW defines as a drivers car. Obviously BMW's are better driver cars than Benz's, but Benz's, even AMG's are still tuned for day-to-day use.

I've read bout some disenchanted M car owners who loved their cars but found them too hard-edged for day to day use and thought that Benz's/AMG's provided a better ballance b/w everyday useabilty and performance.

To each his own.

Oh, and Benz's new 7G tranny is very well calibrated for spirited driving and in manual mode will bounce off the rev limiter. From my experience w/ it and based on reviews the transmission is almost telepathic about its shifts and performs flawlessly.

I got into a debate w/ guys in the CLK forum on mbworld a few weeks back about the E36 M3 vs. CLK430. Most of them believed that stock for stock a CLK430 would win. IMO from a dig a M3 would pull away thru the q/m, but from a rolling start a CLK430 might win.

Agreed. I thought a CLK430 was very strong competition for an e36M3, especially on the highway. That's why I said that the M50/S50 intake manifold does wonders for the S52 M3s (especially since the OP was able to pull several car lengths on the CLK). No wonder it's one of the most popular (and bang-for-your-buck) mods for the OBDII M3s.

Agreed. I thought a CLK430 was very strong competition for an e36M3, especially on the highway. That's why I said that the M50/S50 intake manifold does wonders for the S52 M3s (especially since the OP was able to pull several car lengths on the CLK). No wonder it's one of the most popular (and bang-for-your-buck) mods for the OBDII M3s.:confused Several car lengths!ok not sure on the year of the clk430, but it was the previous bodystle, like 2000-2003 around there.

I get next to the clk, (middle lane) and he downshifts and takes off, gets about a car length on me then i slam 3rd and take it to the top of 4th
(like 60-120?) and end up pulling 3cl's total. with him 2 cl's back

:nono Read his quote again!

:confused Several car lengths!:nono Read his quote again!

1 = single
2 = a couple
3+ = several, few, etc. ;)

Yes, I know he said 3 car lengths. Maybe I should have said "a few carlengths" instead of "several car lengths". Ok now? :)

1 = single
2 = a couple
3+ = several, few, etc. ;)

Yes, I know he said 3 car lengths. Maybe I should have said "a few carlengths" instead of "several car lengths". Ok now? :)

God coolcargeek is starting to become a bit too combative........:help

God coolcargeek is starting to become a bit too combative........:helpLOL! I know I know I thought about that today and you're right! Some of these guys bring that out u know!:(
Sometimes you have to play devils advocate you know when some of these young bloods come up with these outrageous facts and kills! You should know! Go ask VADER!:devillook

LOL! I know I know I thought about that today and you're right! Some of these guys bring that out u know!:(
Sometimes you have to play devils advocate you know when some of these young bloods come up with these outrageous facts and kills! You should know! Go ask VADER!:devillook

Hey man, this isn't 335i vs e46M3, nor am I Vader. ;) I do know your blood has been boiling as of late, but do take it easy on the rest of the board members.

Cliffsnotes: the cheaper the car you drive, the more you drive like an idiot trying to race everyone.

Hey man, this isn't 335i vs e46M3, nor am I Vader. ;) I do know your blood has been boiling as of late, but do take it easy on the rest of the board members.Yea Yea Yea I know! I'll take it easy!:(

Freakin VADER! :killshot::rocketwho:

Cliffsnotes: the cheaper the car you drive, the more you drive like an idiot trying to race everyone.NOOOooooooooo! Cmon! Never seen a young rich kid driving their Mom's E55 or M5? Oops here I go again!:confused :(

You guys see what I mean!:dunno LOL!

the m50 DOES make some crazy power on the freeway.

it accually feels like a very fast car until 150 on the freeway, its quite surprizing.

the clk was getting pulled on pretty hardcore, as would a 540 or s52 mani m3.

if seen a highway roll between two s52's manifold and sans, and the m50 mani pulls away fast.

if i had a 3.5 maf and open element intake it would be that much better.

ive always had respect for turbo 911's DUH....

i will race standard 911s on the freeway, i ussualy hold up alright (only losing 1 cl from 80-140 to a 996 911 3.4l)

the m50 DOES make some crazy power on the freeway.

it accually feels like a very fast car until 150 on the freeway, its quite surprizing.

the clk was getting pulled on pretty hardcore, as would a 540 or s52 mani m3.

if seen a highway roll between two s52's manifold and sans, and the m50 mani pulls away fast.

if i had a 3.5 maf and open element intake it would be that much better.

ive always had respect for turbo 911's DUH....

i will race standard 911s on the freeway, i ussualy hold up alright (only losing 1 cl from 80-140 to a 996 911 3.4l)All you need now are the inj,Shrick cams,and an HFM and then you'll really see something.;)

waste of time. turbo baby.

waste of time. turbo baby.Do it!;)

i will race standard 911s on the freeway, i ussualy hold up alright (only losing 1 cl from 80-140 to a 996 911 3.4l)
I'd say a 996 911 should walk you, even with your mods, but eh, whatever - it isn't TOO far outside the realm of possibility.