View Full Version : A quite nice example of what my plans under the hood are...


BARRY E36 M325
11-03-2006, 12:57 AM
So wow. Me likey and will be almost completely replicating...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR08.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR06.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR07.jpg


YUM

Rickysbmw320i
11-03-2006, 01:02 AM
arnt you in ca? good luck!

blitzed310
11-03-2006, 01:16 AM
dibs on your M10, I need another one for boosting in the future. I have 6 months of school left, and I plan on going crazy.

BARRY E36 M325
11-03-2006, 01:33 AM
dibs on your M10, I need another one for boosting in the future. I have 6 months of school left, and I plan on going crazy.

It's on reserve for you...;)

kesslerbmw
11-03-2006, 02:10 AM
What kind of ITB setup is that?

jjgbmw323
11-03-2006, 08:22 AM
Barry,
I thought you where going with a supercharger on an s50?:pimpflash

jrcook320
11-03-2006, 08:46 AM
anyone have the rest of the pics of that car?

BARRY E36 M325
11-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Barry,
I thought you where going with a supercharger on an s50?:pimpflash

I don't know if I want supercharge. Though it would be quite nice.:cool

BARRY E36 M325
11-04-2006, 04:04 PM
anyone have the rest of the pics of that car?

Here ya gooo.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR01.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR02.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR03.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR04.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR05.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR06.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR07.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/BARRYE36M3/E21%20photos/BMWE21320iR08.jpg

THIS IS ALL OF THEM ON THE GUY'S WEB PAGE. :)

sil0kin
11-04-2006, 06:21 PM
sick

waferman
11-04-2006, 09:26 PM
Would you drive this daily? There are no air filters for the horns...your race setup would shorten the life of the engine by a lot! You would have to change your oil all the time...
-John

Madhatter
11-04-2006, 09:36 PM
got a similar debacle, you can get foam filters that sit inside the stacks, but 1) they are known to pop out, and 2) they are a fire risk. Only solution we have been able to come up with is have a full plenum that you can unbolt the stacks, then fit up the plenum and airbox for normal driving etc. Just keep the stacks for a bit of show and fun :)

Sucking something back through the inlets would seriously suck when you have to rebuild your engine or your block is trashed because of it. :(

holdfastgreg
11-05-2006, 12:17 AM
Volicity stacks have filters that also fit the outside diameter of the horn. You can also build a plenum and run a filter threw that.

kdanielson
11-05-2006, 12:35 AM
Looks cool but those shorts stacks are about 5" too short... unless you are reving to 10,000rpm or so!

Air cleaners to fit over velocity stacks are not uncommon, sprint cars run them-Speedway Motors sells them.

ken

Madhatter
11-05-2006, 12:41 AM
Volicity stacks have filters that also fit the outside diameter of the horn. You can also build a plenum and run a filter threw that.

They are a fire risk. What you end up having is a backfire through the intake will cause the filter to be ignited. Its a pain in the arse as it destroys filters, but also coats everything in sticky residue.

Looks cool but those shorts stacks are about 5" too short... unless you are reving to 10,000rpm or so!

Air cleaners to fit over velocity stacks are not uncommon, sprint cars run them-Speedway Motors sells them.

ken

Thats not really true, it isnt that simple when tuning lengths. To give an idea on lengths you sit down and work out the pulse of the pressure wave in relation to cam timing and engine speed. You end up with a stupidly large distance, so what you do is take the distance and divide it by an even figure to shorten it. In the case of those without a plenum, longer thinner stacks help produce torque at lower engine speeds, shorter helps with horsepower higher in the rev range. The ones in the pic are far from short, i dont see how you can say he would need to rev to 10,000rpm for them to work.

holdfastgreg
11-05-2006, 12:48 AM
Not really.
I've never seen a foam filter spark up off ITBs. Not to say it cant happen because I can see the risk. But most cars who have the should implement the right safety precausions

vtgti
11-05-2006, 03:34 PM
So how much are these engines selling for?

waferman
11-05-2006, 04:30 PM
Those foam filters that some race cars use are still not up to daily driving! Yes, the engine looks cool though. If you just put in a normal S50 from a 92-whatever E36 and use a CAI or keep its intake, you would still be quicker than snot!

Madhatter
11-05-2006, 05:43 PM
Not really.
I've never seen a foam filter spark up off ITBs. Not to say it cant happen because I can see the risk. But most cars who have the should implement the right safety precausions

Ive seen it set fire to an engine bay, burnt a whole heap of his wiring :eyecrazy

They (being transport department) wont pass roadworthy here for registration because of that reason, so no driving on the street :(

holdfastgreg
11-05-2006, 06:03 PM
Their legal where I live. But if your ignorant where you place it, its your fault.

BoostedE21
11-06-2006, 05:38 PM
Looks good, what is the info on the motor?

BARRY E36 M325
11-06-2006, 05:56 PM
Well, I don't know about the stacks, but the idea of this thread was the motor swap itself. An S50 or S52 is the plan that WILL be happening soon. I might go carbon airbox for the motor. But first, I just need the engine itself.

No I will not be driving this on the street after that. It will be STRICTLY track car.

I am not too sure of the specs on this particular car, but I know he did a full exhaust system, cams, intake system (obviously), and he has some drivetrain components...

2.8L(e21)
11-06-2006, 06:13 PM
Is that an m50 or m52 I had a 96 m52 with 83k I tried to put in but it wasnt sitting right even after I put in the 6 cylnder subframe. I would have had to get a custom subframe and that was going to cost to much and take to long so I went with the greymarket 2.7L m20 instead.

BARRY E36 M325
11-06-2006, 08:17 PM
M52. Probably out of an E36 323i. M50 didn't have a plastic valve cover, if I am correct.

holdfastgreg
11-06-2006, 08:37 PM
Racing it where and what class? To put a motor in a car before you know any rules/regulations can be a disaster. Find out what your racing and what the specs are, than build the car to those specs.

Like myself, Im building the car to SCCA solo rules, modified. If I never race it, so be it, but the car will meet tech requirements.

BARRY E36 M325
11-06-2006, 08:42 PM
It's gonna be a 1/4 mile car.

holdfastgreg
11-06-2006, 08:52 PM
lame.
if you want a 1/4 mile car buy a supra or a rx7.

BARRY E36 M325
11-06-2006, 08:55 PM
But see, everyone does that kinda stuff with those cars. What about E21's? Nope. So here I am.

BARRY E36 M325
11-06-2006, 08:56 PM
For that silly remark, Greg, I am tempted to put in Nitrous.:stickoutt :stickoutt :stickoutt

blitzed310
11-06-2006, 11:20 PM
Wouldnt that be a boring 14 sec car?

holdfastgreg
11-06-2006, 11:28 PM
Wouldnt that be a boring 14 sec car?

HAHAHA


The suspension geometery isnt flattering for acceleration either. Just build a nice car and enjoy it for that. I'm not knocking what you want to do either.