View Full Version : Temperatures too low for Mobil 1 15w/50?
Matt927 11-02-2006, 03:01 PM Hello,
Like the title states, is the temperature too low now to run 15w/50 in an E36 M3?
Thanks for the help,
Matt
autobahnauto 11-02-2006, 04:45 PM I like Mobil 1 0W40 for the 1998- BMW's. 5W40 Pentosin is good too.
Dave
Wiseguy ON 11-02-2006, 06:20 PM 15W50 is a bit heavy for an S52 unless it's August in death valley.
carreraboy911 11-03-2006, 12:15 PM 15x50 Mobil 1 synthetic is what I run in my s50b32 all year around in NJ
MP525i 11-03-2006, 01:04 PM since we're on the topic of oil..
what's recommended for s52 during the winter months (0-30 degress).
thanks!
-mike
kxl77 11-04-2006, 04:48 AM Is 10w40 okay for the winter time?
autobahnauto 11-04-2006, 11:55 AM Is 10w40 okay for the winter time?
synthetic oil doesn't thicken up like regular oil, so 0W40 is fine all year round in the Jersey climate.
Dave
kxl77 11-04-2006, 03:13 PM well i was refering to 10w40 convential oil.
M3Romeo 11-07-2006, 11:50 PM 10-40 for winter is the best, thats what i use now. 50 for the summer
autobahnauto 11-08-2006, 09:01 AM well i was refering to 10w40 convential oil.
what year is your car. 10w40 is ok for winter. synthetic oil is required on the e46 and newer cars.
Dave
switlikbob 11-23-2006, 02:33 PM 15x50 Mobil 1 synthetic is what I run in my s50b32 all year around in NJ
I run Mobil 1 15w50 as well all year in NJ. Sometime, whenit's really cold, the car struggles to start a bit. But once it's warm, it's good to go. I am also running a s/c that uses the engine oil forf lubrication. I am convinced that this oil is best for my application. In that past, I had a leaky valve cover and would put some M1 0w40 in when it was running low (winter time only). That seemd to work okay as well.
Bsaint 11-23-2006, 02:54 PM 15x50 Mobil 1 synthetic is what I run in my s50b32 all year around in NJ
+1 I run it my S50 all year around, how ever if I dont let the car sit and warm up for at least 5 minutes it likes to run a little sludge like until its warm. I try not to drive it much in the winter tho.
Deadphan 11-23-2006, 08:29 PM I run Amsoil 5w-40 year round. I would not run a 15W in the winter. It will only increase an engines tendency to wear at startup. The advantages of the 50W when warm are not necessary in the cool temperatures.
themadhatter 11-23-2006, 08:33 PM since we're on the topic of oil..
what's recommended for s52 during the winter months (0-30 degress).
thanks!
-mike
5w30 (not m1), 5w40 & 0w40 are perfect weights for an S52 during the winter and all year round.
I believe BMW synthetic is still 5w40 and pretty cheap too.
lex89 11-24-2006, 12:55 AM BMW synth is 5w30 I believe, not 5w40.
themadhatter 11-24-2006, 02:22 AM BMW synth is 5w30 I believe, not 5w40.
I could have it confused with their older synthetic. they had switched it around 1999.
M TOPLS 12-02-2006, 12:10 AM My 97 M3 has 111K on it and I am the 3rd owner. Both previous owners used conventional oil in the car, so I'm sticking with that. My technician changed the oil a few weeks ago and put in 5w30 and after a couple days of driving, my oil pressure light was coming on when the car was idling. So he changed it to 10w40 and now it's fine. He said that most newer BMWs and especially the Ms liked the thinner oil and that is what BMW recommends, but for whatever reason, my car didn't like it. Has this happened to anyone else? The temps here were still in the upper 50s/low 60s when this happened. My tech admitted that he could not remember which oil he put in the car the first time he changed it after I purchased the car earlier this year, but he thinks it was probably 10w40 based on the reaction my car had to 5w30. And I think I remember him putting in 10w40 before, so I don't know why he decided to try 5w30 now -- maybe because winter was approaching?
themadhatter 12-02-2006, 01:02 AM My 97 M3 has 111K on it and I am the 3rd owner. Both previous owners used conventional oil in the car, so I'm sticking with that. My technician changed the oil a few weeks ago and put in 5w30 and after a couple days of driving, my oil pressure light was coming on when the car was idling. So he changed it to 10w40 and now it's fine. He said that most newer BMWs and especially the Ms liked the thinner oil and that is what BMW recommends, but for whatever reason, my car didn't like it. Has this happened to anyone else? The temps here were still in the upper 50s/low 60s when this happened. My tech admitted that he could not remember which oil he put in the car the first time he changed it after I purchased the car earlier this year, but he thinks it was probably 10w40 based on the reaction my car had to 5w30. And I think I remember him putting in 10w40 before, so I don't know why he decided to try 5w30 now -- maybe because winter was approaching?
find a new mechanic, the new Ms require 10w60. this guy is blowing smoke up your rear.
he probably put the 5w30 in because it's what he had on hand. depending on what the brand was, it may have been an unsuitable oil for your motor.
one last thing, the US spec M3 uses the same basic motor design as the 323/325/328 and shares the same oil requirements as those motors.
-Ron
M TOPLS 12-02-2006, 12:03 PM find a new mechanic, the new Ms require 10w60. this guy is blowing smoke up your rear.
he probably put the 5w30 in because it's what he had on hand. depending on what the brand was, it may have been an unsuitable oil for your motor.
one last thing, the US spec M3 uses the same basic motor design as the 323/325/328 and shares the same oil requirements as those motors.
-Ron
Thank you, Ron. Might not be a bad idea. This guy is somewhat of an old school tech who does great work on older BMWs (pre-1990s), including on my e30 before it went to heaven earlier this year, but I don't really know how much experience he has working on newer BMWs or how much training he is keeping up with. He runs a very small independent shop. I have seen recommendations for other indies in my area of CT, so maybe I'll give them a shot.
themadhatter 12-02-2006, 01:02 PM Thank you, Ron. Might not be a bad idea. This guy is somewhat of an old school tech who does great work on older BMWs (pre-1990s), including on my e30 before it went to heaven earlier this year, but I don't really know how much experience he has working on newer BMWs or how much training he is keeping up with. He runs a very small independent shop. I have seen recommendations for other indies in my area of CT, so maybe I'll give them a shot.
no problem bud and I'm sorry for sounding harsh. I just hate to see people getting the wrong info when it can be hazordous to your equipment.
autobahnauto 12-02-2006, 01:35 PM BMW usually runs 5w40...that's what they stock at the local dealership in the service dept. However, some of the E-39 M series require 10w60 and others (same year) require 5w30.
Personally, I don't run a synthetic oil in the older BMW's that don't require it, but I would recommend a heavier 10w40 or 15w50.
Dave
themadhatter 12-02-2006, 06:53 PM BMW usually runs 5w40...that's what they stock at the local dealership in the service dept. However, some of the E-39 M series require 10w60 and others (same year) require 5w30.
Personally, I don't run a synthetic oil in the older BMW's that don't require it, but I would recommend a heavier 10w40 or 15w50.
Dave
Dave,
15w50 is not the proper weight to run in this weather.
-Ron
autobahnauto 12-03-2006, 05:19 PM Dave,
15w50 is not the proper weight to run in this weather.
-Ron
Sorry, I didn't look outside yet today. In the winter, I run 10w40 in my customers cars...unless they request otherwise. I have BMW's that come into my shop with over 400k on them and still have the original engine and expect many more miles to come.
Personally, I don't sell synthetic oil to the older (pre 98) BMW's, but some customers insist on it.
Come spring and summer time, they get 20w50.
I'm not telling you what to run in your car...you could run 5w20 and that is fine with me. I am just giving my opinion as to what has worked for me in the past many years.
Dave
themadhatter 12-03-2006, 09:19 PM Sorry, I didn't look outside yet today. In the winter, I run 10w40 in my customers cars...unless they request otherwise. I have BMW's that come into my shop with over 400k on them and still have the original engine and expect many more miles to come.
Personally, I don't sell synthetic oil to the older (pre 98) BMW's, but some customers insist on it.
Come spring and summer time, they get 20w50.
I'm not telling you what to run in your car...you could run 5w20 and that is fine with me. I am just giving my opinion as to what has worked for me in the past many years.
Dave
Dave,
I'm not debating that 15w50 is appropriate for some cars or not, I'm just stating that the OP asked if the weather was appropriate for that oil. Personally, I have 4 gallons of 15w50 sitting on a shelf waiting for the spring to go into my cars, but 0w40 is all they get till it warms back up again. :)
-Ron
autobahnauto 12-04-2006, 09:05 AM Dave,
I'm not debating that 15w50 is appropriate for some cars or not, I'm just stating that the OP asked if the weather was appropriate for that oil. Personally, I have 4 gallons of 15w50 sitting on a shelf waiting for the spring to go into my cars, but 0w40 is all they get till it warms back up again. :)
-Ron
everyone has different preferences and they use what works for them. I run 0w40 in my Benz and when the lease is up and I get my new BMW, I'll be running the 0w40 in that. I don't stock the 15w50 because I rarely use it. Only when customers request it and then I order it to suit. I stock 0w40 Mobil 1, 20w50 Castrol GTX, 10w40 GTX and seasonally 15w40 for the diesels.
Dave
Wisky 12-07-2006, 02:21 AM Its getting cold here in NJ on some days and my car is still 2k miles on her 15w50 oil change, I might swap it out next week instead of waiting it out for 0w40 if it gets alot colder.
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