I have the chance to get a really nice set of wheels and tires for a fair price.

The rears i know will work. 9.5x17 et40 w/ 245/40/17 tire

But what about the front? Cant I fit a 9.5x17 et40 upfront?

what tire size should i go with?

Thanks!
-Tim

What is the car?

You can do it with -3.5 to -4 degrees of front camber and a 12-15mm spacer. Otherwise, you're talking fenders like mine to make them fit.

What is the car?


sorry... didnt even think twice about that part. Its a 1998 M3 Sedan.

You can do it with -3.5 to -4 degrees of front camber and a 12-15mm spacer. Otherwise, you're talking fenders like mine to make them fit.

I would not mind rolling/pulling them... But I dont want to cut the metal itself.

-3.5* to -4 sounds like a bit much on the street. Dont wanna do that.

9.5" wheels with 6" backspace (perfect from fitment with no spacers)
http://www.dobyworld.com/images/front2.JPG

Get on the 3 series boards. They will have more answers.

9.5" wheels with 6" backspace (perfect from fitment with no spacers)
http://www.dobyworld.com/images/front2.JPG



SICK!!!:buttrock :buttrock

I guess my plan is not going to work unless i get some flares...

Or lot's of camber

Run a 225/45/17 and a 10mm spacer and It should work just fine.

You will need camber plates to adjust camber and some coilovers to control suspension travel.

I run 17x9 et27 up front with 225/45/17 with no rub at all

225 on 9.5? What's the point for all the trouble?

225 on 9.5? What's the point for all the trouble?

As long as he is not tracking the car, he is fine. You know people do do things for COSMETIC reasons you know. And show me proof that a stretched tire greatly decreases handling.

He wanted to know how to fit them, I told him. He is already putting a 245 on a 9.5" wheel which is close to being out of spec.

I know all about COSMETIC reasons, but in this case it's not very pretty. Running a 9.5" requires tire killing camber and/or a tire width too small for the wheel. An 8.5 with a 245 is perfect for the front of any street driven car. I've made all sorts of wheels fit cars, including 9.5" wheels with 285 r-comps on my car with stock front fenders. I think I know a little bit about it...

As long as he is not tracking the car, he is fine. You know people do do things for COSMETIC reasons you know. And show me proof that a stretched tire greatly decreases handling.

He wanted to know how to fit them, I told him. He is already putting a 245 on a 9.5" wheel which is close to being out of spec.

Look closely at most sports car racing seiries where they can put any wheel width they want. Almost all of them have wheels that are wider than the tire tread. That keeps the tread flat on the road and reduces sidewall flex. That prevents the tread from rolling over under heavy lateral forces.

If I had a choice I would run wheels that were about 1 to 1.5 wider than the tread width.

I have the chance to get a really nice set of wheels and tires for a fair price.
-Tim

Can you get us the same deal?

I would not want to run a 225/45R17 on a 17X9.5 wheel. The specs on the tires show the tires only fit up to a 17X8.5. Even if you were to get them to seat on the rim you would have to pull the tire up off the road to make them fit. I have not seen anything wider than a 9" wide wheel on the front fitting and they take some work to fit.

SICK!!!:buttrock :buttrock

I guess my plan is not going to work unless i get some flares...

If you're looking for strictly function: I managed to get 285 hoosiers on 10" wheels onto the front of my car by just beating the crap out of the front fenders with body hammer/dolly. It will fubar the paint but you can get it smooth enough with the dolly that a skin coat of filler and some sanding will get it good enough to paint. Just a thought.

That said for next season, I'm making CF fenders for this thing with the right width for up to 285 on 10.5" wheels.

A pic from teamwtf's site (thanks teamwtf!):
http://teamwtf.org/gallery/albums/album691/wdcr100806_SM_245.sized.jpg

285/18/30 front on 18x10 wheels and 315/18/30 rears on 18x11.5 wheels.

oooh CF front fender group buy!!!! ;)

You guys are barely one step above sesame street.

Jim, I feel sorry for you having to deal with this group.

You guys are barely one step above sesame street.

Jim, I feel sorry for you having to deal with this group.

???

says the guy running "shortened factory sport springs"? :confused dude, cut n bake was like so 9th grade working on your older buddies supra...

Sweet! I love Bird Bird. Are your Oscar?

And I really don't want to point out anything, but what are "Shortened factory sport springs" good for? Looking cool?

EDIT: Damnit Ryan, mr quick draw beat me to it.

???

says the guy running "shortened factory sport springs"? :confused dude, cut n bake was like so 9th grade on your older buddies supra...
:lol

???says the guy running "shortened factory sport springs"? :confused dude, cut n bake was like so 9th grade working on your older buddies supra...

Thanks for the example of what I mean.

Are you capable of saying something intelligent, instead of playing to your clown friends?

Or is this the best you can do?

Seriously there killer, there was nothing said in this thread that was a problem until you added your BS. But to continue:

Stage 2 Go-ware, Azenis (4) x 275/35-18, Shortened factory sport springs, Bilstein HDs, Eibach bars, ATE disks w/braided lines and HPS pads, CDV, Angel Eyes, White/Tan, and bling free.

News flash! Cut springs and AE's are bling...

Seriously there killer, there was nothing said in this thread that was a problem until you added your BS. But to continue:
News flash! Cut springs and AE's are bling...

Again, same thing here. Is this the best you can do?

I don't need to "do" any better, you're digging your own hole there buddy.

Again, same thing here. Is this the best you can do? Is this the best you can do?

Thanks for the example of what I mean.

Are you capable of saying something intelligent, instead of playing to your clown friends?

Or is this the best you can do?


what is your problem? we gave frank two real ways to fit 9.5 or even 10" wheels on the front of his car. vjlax18 did it by flaring the front fenders. frank mentioned he didn't really want to cut up the fenders. i commented that i got 10" whels on my car by aggressively pulling the stock fenders with a body hammer & dolly. we both gave him pictures of the end result. few people have anything wider than 9" wheels on the front of this car, and we were simply showing how we did it.

you on the other hand have contributed nothing but some inane comment out of left field about sesame street. if that's the best you can do... good day to you sir and good luck.

what is your problem? we gave frank two real ways to fit 9.5 or even 10" wheels on the front of his car. vjlax18 did it by flaring the front fenders. frank mentioned he didn't really want to cut up the fenders. i commented that i got 10" whels on my car by aggressively pulling the stock fenders with a body hammer & dolly. we both gave him pictures of the end result. few people have anything wider than 9" wheels on the front of this car, and we were simply showing how we did it.

you on the other hand have contributed nothing but some inane comment out of left field about sesame street. if that's the best you can do... good day to you sir and good luck.

You guys made my point for me, several times in fact. I don't need to say any more.

And BTW, it's not Frank's car, wheels, fenders, etc. You are confused, but that's not surprising.

frank, tim, borat, whoever... at this point it doesn't matter. you've basically jacked this thread to insult everyone who was trying to help the op with some comment out of left field. so it's all focused on you now. congratulations, you got the attention you were begging for.

frankly, why are you in this thread to begin with? you list your car as a 540, while the op is trying to figure out how to get these wheels on an e36 sedan. while we've given the op some real-world advice from our experiences doing exactly what he is trying do, you have made zero contribution to this thread other than to insult people you don't know.

you haven't even stated what is your problem with us. what you got a problem with someone's sig/avatar/car? really, it's ok to let it out....

I have the chance to get a really nice set of wheels and tires for a fair price.

The rears i know will work. 9.5x17 et40 w/ 245/40/17 tire

But what about the front? Cant I fit a 9.5x17 et40 upfront?

what tire size should i go with?

Thanks!
-Tim


I dont think the problem up front is the Fenders.. Thats mostly a rear issue. Up front on the E36 M3s, the problem is rubbing the strut. Ive got 245s up front on 8.5" x 17" rims without rubbing but thats only because my Fikses carry an offset of 37.7mm vs stock offset of 41. And let me tell you , one more mm larger and Id be brushing the strut. Judging from mine, Id say 38 or 39 mm is about the max offset you can use without spacers. Now.. considering youre using an offset of 40 BUT its on a rim measuring 9.5 instead of my 8.5" fikses, its going to be extremely close. Youre asking about tire width, but I dont even know if the 9.5" rims will clear the strut. If they do, I think youd better plan on either spacers, or, dropping down to 225 front tires.

News flash! Cut springs and AE's are bling...
but the kids at the local friday night wal-mart meets say it looks "mad tyte & super fresh, y0" :(