View Full Version : e30 325iX vs. Integra GSR


awahl
11-01-2006, 02:18 AM
Well i was on my way home from the shop today, and at a light a Red Integra pulled up next to me. Had his window rolled down a bit, and he revved his engine at me. So i knew what was going to happen. The kid looked to be about 17. So the light turns green and we take off. I get a good jump on him from the start. And keep the 1-2 car length lead. I slow down, he keeps on going and does the ricer fly by, loud exhaust and all, and keeps going about 90ish. I slow down and about 15 seconds later look up ahead and see a cop pulling out and lights flashing. He then pulls the Integra over. I love 4wd and torque. All this in my little e30 that i payed so little for.

And i know it was a GSR because of the DOHC VTEC badge on the back of the car.

God
11-01-2006, 02:23 AM
Your car may have torque in comparison to the gsr, but 3-series in general dont have a lot of torque.

awahl
11-01-2006, 02:27 AM
i know this, but compared to any honda 4cyl a 3series has a lot of torque. Ive had a few hondas, and a few BMW's and theres no comparison

God
11-01-2006, 02:44 AM
i know this, but compared to any honda 4cyl a 3series has a lot of torque. Ive had a few hondas, and a few BMW's and theres no comparison

I suppose so, but both my borthers have 5.0 mustangs. So i have nothing compared to them, and i hate it. Thats whey im building that 442 (in my sig). It should have some torque.

themadhatter
11-01-2006, 03:15 AM
I don't believe it.

E36BimmerJunkie
11-01-2006, 03:22 AM
I don't believe it.

+1

And i know it was a GSR because of the DOHC VTEC badge on the back of the car.

Anyone can buy a badge, slap it on and call it a VTEC.

The Integra driver probably sucked as well.

At least you drove home in a bimmer.

rjk3rd320is
11-01-2006, 03:29 AM
+1


At least you drove home in a bimmer.

amen

Nadroj
11-01-2006, 03:33 AM
i do

Jackoosh
11-01-2006, 02:21 PM
Well i was on my way home from the shop today, and at a light a Red Integra pulled up next to me. Had his window rolled down a bit, and he revved his engine at me. So i knew what was going to happen. The kid looked to be about 17. So the light turns green and we take off. I get a good jump on him from the start. And keep the 1-2 car length lead. I slow down, he keeps on going and does the ricer fly by, loud exhaust and all, and keeps going about 90ish. I slow down and about 15 seconds later look up ahead and see a cop pulling out and lights flashing. He then pulls the Integra over. I love 4wd and torque. All this in my little e30 that i payed so little for.

And i know it was a GSR because of the DOHC VTEC badge on the back of the car.


...yet another E30....

:lol :lol :lol

drmcdave
11-01-2006, 03:04 PM
gsr should easily beat an ix.

hono
11-01-2006, 03:10 PM
Well i was on my way home from the shop today, and at a light a Red Integra pulled up next to me. Had his window rolled down a bit, and he revved his engine at me. So i knew what was going to happen. The kid looked to be about 17. So the light turns green and we take off. I get a good jump on him from the start. And keep the 1-2 car length lead. I slow down, he keeps on going and does the ricer fly by, loud exhaust and all, and keeps going about 90ish. I slow down and about 15 seconds later look up ahead and see a cop pulling out and lights flashing. He then pulls the Integra over. I love 4wd and torque. All this in my little e30 that i payed so little for.

And i know it was a GSR because of the DOHC VTEC badge on the back of the car.

Good kill. Integra should be easy kill from stop to ix.
Ix is monster off the line but dies at higher speeds.

What was the speed when you slowed down?

redlinedbimmer
11-01-2006, 03:24 PM
[quote=awahl;7814430] I love torque in my little e30 that i payed so little for.quote]

The 2.5 I6s don't really have that much torque. I am not sure on the e30, but the M50 I have only has 181. Just because you can dump it from a higher rpm and launch well doens't mean you have torque. This doesn't even sound like it was a race either. nice kill anyways

98///M3
11-01-2006, 03:31 PM
gsr>325ix

pretty sure a GSR would walk you, esp. if he had mods too(u mentioned it being loud)

98///M3
11-01-2006, 03:33 PM
I suppose so, but both my borthers have 5.0 mustangs. So i have nothing compared to them, and i hate it. Thats whey im building that 442 (in my sig). It should have some torque.

holy crap, how does ur 325 hit a 14.2 with those mods? do u have an s50 or s52 swap or something?

God
11-01-2006, 04:40 PM
holy crap, how does ur 325 hit a 14.2 with those mods? do u have an s50 or s52 swap or something?

Nothing, just the m50. I realy dont know how fast it is, i realy think it is a mid 14. It probobly isnt a low 14. I dont know why everyone says 14.2, a 14.286 is basicly a 14.3. I didnt actualy run that time, it was my older borther (i was in the car also). He is more agresive on launches and can shift faster. My best was a 14.48 or somthing.
I dont know what you launch at, but my older brother launched my car at 4200. With a lot of clutch slipping, it makes the best launch.
I am almost sure my car is lower than a 14.8, because i know i can walk a stock 328.

Edit: remember, it was on a g-tech

gti1689
11-01-2006, 04:52 PM
I don't believe it.
+1

Nothing, just the m50. I realy dont know how fast it is, i realy think it is a mid 14. It probobly isnt a low 14. I dont know why everyone says 14.2, a 14.286 is basicly a 14.3. I didnt actualy run that time, it was my older borther (i was in the car also). He is more agresive on launches and can shift faster. My best was a 14.48 or somthing.
I dont know what you launch at, but my older brother launched my car at 4200. With a lot of clutch slipping, it makes the best launch.
I am almost sure my car is lower than a 14.8, because i know i can walk a stock 328.

your story changes everytime. i remember the old threads where everyone ripped you apart b/c of that, yet you still continut to believe it'll run a low 14. btw, g-tech times are useless. i told u then.

IS 300_M
11-01-2006, 06:42 PM
Nothing, just the m50. I realy dont know how fast it is, i realy think it is a mid 14. It probobly isnt a low 14. I dont know why everyone says 14.2, a 14.286 is basicly a 14.3. I didnt actualy run that time, it was my older borther (i was in the car also). He is more agresive on launches and can shift faster. My best was a 14.48 or somthing.
I dont know what you launch at, but my older brother launched my car at 4200. With a lot of clutch slipping, it makes the best launch.
I am almost sure my car is lower than a 14.8, because i know i can walk a stock 328.

Edit: remember, it was on a g-tech

14.2 with just intake, exhaust and chip? a 98 mph trap speed? you must be kidding me. i agree with gti1689 gtech are worthless.......

did you say you can walk a stock 328?

ChosenGSR
11-01-2006, 08:08 PM
stockish GSRs run ~15.2 and high 14s with I/H/E.

Take it for what it is.

swollenmember
11-01-2006, 08:13 PM
I call BS. THis WaSn'T ThE ReaL tHiNg@!@!@! This is look here... video. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=603740

awahl
11-02-2006, 12:21 AM
Well you all can think what you want, it definately looked like a GSR because of the wheels and i heard Vtec, since a stock LS b18 doesnt have vtec then im sure it was a gsr, and the exhaust could very well have been a can and thats it. Im definately not new to the BMW's since ive had 7. And ive had a few Hondas also. I got up to about 75 before i slowed down because of a turn. I know how most of the Honda tuners are around here, because a few years back i was one of them. So dont really care what you think if it was BS. Im sharing my story, and i also know how to launch my car, and i have a turner chip, and an ansa exhaust. I also know a little bit about cars, ive had quite a few of them and i work in the automotive industry. I deal with BMW's everyday. Anyway this is my story, i know what happened, what i was racing, and by the way the iX is not my only car im not someone who thinks my e30 can beat e46 M3's. I know what the car is capable of. And the iX has no where near as much torque as my 540i/6 used to have, but i dont have that anymore thanks to a lady, her Yukon, and a redlight she ran.

Rogozhin
11-02-2006, 12:50 AM
What does 'deal with bmws everyday' mean?

Rogo

abradic
11-02-2006, 01:02 AM
Was the GS-R an automatic? This isn't too far fetched as the GS-R is listed as roughly a mid 15 sec 1/4 and the 325ix a couple tenths slower. The Integra is FWD and if the 325ix bites him off the line then I could see that 1-2 car pull. He did say he held it there and not continuing to put 6-7 car legnths. Who knows if they went to 110 what would have happened, but save those high speed runs for a track instead of city streets!

BTW, the g-tech is not very accurate. If you want to see if you can really run a 14.2 @ 98mph, take it to a track for a couple runs. This was mentioned so many times, and I feel you don't want to because the times will definetely be much slower.

abradic
11-02-2006, 01:06 AM
Hey awahl, just for general info. Do you think that your 325ix can take your 540i 6-speed off the line? Say in an 1/8th of a mile which is essentially a 0-75mph or 0-80mph race. Would the 325ix be up by 1-2 car legnths, or would it be sucking exhaust from the 540. Reason I ask is a poster claims his stock 325ix can beat M3's and M5's in an 1/8th mile race because the 325ix is faster off the line.

IWannaBMW
11-02-2006, 01:06 AM
GSR makes what 126 ft/lbs of torque, it's possible he killed it if the kid coulnd't drive. But you would of had him in the twiesties no doubt :D

God
11-02-2006, 01:14 AM
14.2 with just intake, exhaust and chip? a 98 mph trap speed? you must be kidding me. i agree with gti1689 gtech are worthless.......

did you say you can walk a stock 328?

Yeah im pritty sure. My freind has a 328, when i had just air filter and exhaust i tied him (when he had air filter).
Then he got an m50 and i got chip and fan delete and we tied.
Now he has the shark injector and he will pull like 5 cars at 120. So i dont know how many cars he beats me by in the 1/4.
What is up with the 14.48, i was saying that was my best, my older brother ran the faster times. Regardless it is my car.

your story changes everytime. i remember the old threads where everyone ripped you apart b/c of that, yet you still continut to believe it'll run a low 14. btw, g-tech times are useless. i told u then.
I dont think my story changes, I always said it was a mid 14. The story may have changed from when i just had a intake and exhaust, but other than that no.

E36BimmerJunkie
11-02-2006, 01:18 AM
Was the GS-R an automatic?

GSR's are manual only.

God
11-02-2006, 01:21 AM
BTW, the g-tech is not very accurate. If you want to see if you can really run a 14.2 @ 98mph, take it to a track for a couple runs. This was mentioned so many times, and I feel you don't want to because the times will definetely be much slower.
I supose your right, i said that my car probobly would not run a 14.2. I said it is more or less a mid 14. I beleive that cuz i can pull a 328. It might be a lot slower, i dont know. I said this on another thread http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=624824
I am kinda sick of re-typing it all the time.
I will be sure to post my times when i get them.

awahl
11-02-2006, 01:45 AM
What does 'deal with bmws everyday' mean?

Rogo

Means i co-own an automotive repair shop for used car dealers, we have contracts with a couple large used car dealerships doing their work for them. And also the shop we took over only serviced German cars in the past so we picked up some of their previous customers.

and Abradic...not even close, the 540 would rape it hands down...wow i miss that car

abradic
11-02-2006, 01:48 AM
and Abradic...not even close, the 540 would rape it hands down...wow i miss that car

I always did love those 540's, it would hand me my ass on a roll too! Hono, I hope you're reading this. 540 is 'only' 282hp.


-God, that is actually pretty impressive results but I guess the chip helps. For some reason people say it doesn't do much on an M3, other than removing the limiter, what I have read here is it doesn't do much for performance on the M3's.

awahl
11-02-2006, 02:09 AM
yeah the chip helps out in the mid range alot...whoever thinks that an e30 iX can beat m3's and m5's is dumb. The only reason i bought my iX is because i needed something to get around in the snow in. Since I had sold my Grand Cherokee last spring. Anyway I miss my 540i it was a beast

IS 300_M
11-02-2006, 11:01 AM
...... because i know i can walk a stock 328.


Yeah im pritty sure. My freind has a 328, when i had just air filter and exhaust i tied him (when he had air filter).
Then he got an m50 and i got chip and fan delete and we tied.
Now he has the shark injector and he will pull like 5 cars at 120. So i dont know how many cars he beats me by in the 1/4.
What is up with the 14.48, i was saying that was my best, my older brother ran the faster times. Regardless it is my car.


I dont think my story changes, I always said it was a mid 14. The story may have changed from when i just had a intake and exhaust, but other than that no.

it didn't change huh? just confusing that's all

God
11-02-2006, 04:34 PM
it didn't change huh? just confusing that's all

This argument has already started and ended like 5 times. The only reason the story might change, is i dont go as far into detail. I am sick of the argument. I really want to go to the track, but i have bad motor mounts. I dont have sub frame reinforcments either. Next year you can count on me going to the track, but i will probobly have the benifit of wheels and tires so whatever.

320iForLife
11-02-2006, 05:41 PM
Atleast the cop got him instead of you :)

drmcdave
11-03-2006, 11:19 AM
who has a stock gsr, they are so much easier to pull power from than the m20. i have an ix and i know that i WILL no doubt get beaten by a gsr. A gsr will run a rwd e30 w/ a few mods. the guy not being able to drive the car is really the only hope. now a stroker or turbo ix, totally new game.

Mrel
11-03-2006, 04:45 PM
just for reference, I ran a gsr and a h22 powered prelude, put a 1.5 cl on the gsr up to 100, and lost by about 1.5-2cl to the luda. This was with my 2.7i m20, in a lightened 318 chassis. I put down 133whp/146ft/tq. With the m52 neither one will have a chance without some big mods.

trevordr
11-03-2006, 05:11 PM
Well i was on my way home from the shop today, and at a light a Red Integra pulled up next to me. Had his window rolled down a bit, and he revved his engine at me. So i knew what was going to happen. The kid looked to be about 17. So the light turns green and we take off. I get a good jump on him from the start. And keep the 1-2 car length lead. I slow down, he keeps on going and does the ricer fly by, loud exhaust and all, and keeps going about 90ish. I slow down and about 15 seconds later look up ahead and see a cop pulling out and lights flashing. He then pulls the Integra over. I love 4wd and torque. All this in my little e30 that i payed so little for.

And i know it was a GSR because of the DOHC VTEC badge on the back of the car.

If it was a GSR, and it had any mods he would have walked you. My guess: fake badge