Had my first good race tonite since the turbo. I was running about 7-8 psi non-intercooled.

Im driving along on hawthorne, Then decide to whip a U turn, so I get in the left hand turn lane to wip a U turn, and I see a what I believe was a WRX(It was dark). He makes a right turn, I whip my U turn, and now im driving behind him.

I pull along side and Hit the gas a little in 4th gear so he can Hear the Blow Off valve, he then takes off. So i follow him. We line up while going maybe 40-45?, I drop into 3rd gear, And we take off.

It seemed like we took off at about the exact same time. Within 1-2 seconds he pulled a Car length, He then pulls a tiny bit as, I shift into 4th gear and get behind his car, and follow him About 1 - 1.5 car lengths behind him, until Im near the top of 4th gear. So he beat me by about 1 - 1.5 cars.

I pull up next to him, we exhange Thumbs up. He pulls off at the next Gas station, but I fergot to get over and missed the turn.

I REALLY wanna know what Mods he has and what kind of power he was putting down. Im assuming he must be modd'd pretty well, DEF didnt seem stock.

Im Days away from installing my Water/Air Intercooler and up'ing the boost, I cant wait.

Loos like youll have one of the best sleepers ever when youre done. Have Fun!!

what would you say you're putting down right now? Do you have links on details of your setup?

what would you say you're putting down right now? Do you have links on details of your setup?
+1


intrested on what your setup is

Do you know if it was just a WRX or if it was an STi?

He could of been running an 18g turbo in the WRX (the biggest you can bolt on to the 2.0) and those put you into the mid/low 12s believe it or not. Also, it could have been an STi motor transplant - ultimate sleeper.

If it was STi, however, he could have done several big mods and be at 400whp+ or more...that could also explain what happend, heh heh.

I dont have mysetup listed online anywhere, I should make a page some time.

My mods are:

3" Turbo back exhaust(TCD Downpipe) to Magnaflow Cat+Muffler
TCD T4 Turbo Exhaust Manifold
T04B H-3 Turbo(0.82 a/r turbine housing)
3" Charge Pipes
11lb Alumin. Lightweight Flywheel
Spec Stg. 3 clutch
30lb Injectors
Megasquirt for Fuel
Big K&N air filter
Ebay Air/Water intercooler(not installed yet)
255lph Fuel Pump(not installed yet)


My guess is at 8psi non-intercooled Im getting around 300 whp. maybe a little more torque. It feels about like that anyway. I ran around 13psi for a little while(i really shudlnt have) and I was totally out of Fuel injectors(was trying to go over 110% duty cycle).

That guys car seemed fast, but I think if I had just 2-3 more psi of boost, I would have slowly pulled on him.

I really Dont know if it was an STI or not, wish hed check this forum.

Sounds like a nice setup. One thing i'll always love about newer, factory turbo cars, is the ability to run real-time maps...So say hes running at 16psi and not doin well in the race, just switch maps and bam, and extra few psi!...Given that he has the right octane to support it. Its just amazing how at the flip of a switch, you suddenly get gobbs more hp, like that of the new M5, wow! :buttrock

he mustve been stock to be that close.

If he was stock, that car is damn fast stock, he pulled past 100 hard. I Think he needed more than 300ft/trq at the crank to do what he did.

If he was stock, that car is damn fast stock, he pulled past 100 hard. I Think he needed more than 300ft/trq at the crank to do what he did.

Q. honestly who measure tq and hp at the crank?

A. you and ricers

If he was stock, that car is damn fast stock, he pulled past 100 hard. I Think he needed more than 300ft/trq at the crank to do what he did.


Well if you think about it, an STi has 300 at the crank from the factory. With a few bolt ons he could be over 300whp I believe. So keep that in mind, those cars respond very well to even the slightest mods.

The thing you're missing is that the STi is awd. They have a lot of drivetrain loss. It must not have been stock.

The thing you're missing is that the STi is awd. They have a lot of drivetrain loss. It must not have been stock.

with the new awd cars these days thats becoming a falacy(sp)

either go to a auto tech school or do some research noob.

EDIT: tow this to OT. its completely BS and it has nothing to do with anything.

with the new awd cars these days thats becoming a falacy(sp)

either go to a auto tech school or do some research noob.

EDIT: tow this to OT. its completely BS and it has nothing to do with anything.

Who feeds you that crap for breakfast? And a noob calling someone else a noob.....that deserves a nice helping of INSTA-BAN-FOR-TROLLS by Chef Boyardee.

So you're saying that awd cars don't have much drivetrain loss nowadays? Show me a car that's AWD and compare it to a similar car that's only FWD or RWD and show me how similar their drivetrain loss is to each other.......exactly.....it's not similar.....noob.

The STI has about a 27% drivetrain loss......which comes out to about 220 to the wheels. I hope that math isn't too mind boggling for ya. Bottom line...if even he raced an STI, then he was heavily modded. Let alone a regular WRX.

A kill story then discussion about it is off topic? Seriously, think about the things you say before you say them.
I think you need to go to AN English Language school. "A auto tech school..."?

Anyway, nice turbo setup.

sti puts down 240-260whp stock...dynojet we'll go by. We can't really say what it was because the thread starter still doesn't know what he is putting down. The butt dyno is exactly accurate so it could have been stock or it could have been modded to hell. The only way to make an educated guess is for him to get dyno numbers... than we can take a good guess as to what the subie had or what he is making hp wise

HAHA i knew that guy knew nothing. BTW, awesome turbo setup. I'm thinking about selling my 530 for a 535. The 535 is just a much more practical ride, seeing that it has the m30 in it. Keep it up and get everything installed! I can't wait to see pics and dyno sheets...

Q. honestly who measure tq and hp at the crank?

A. you and ricers

Man, I wasn't nearly as stupid as you when I was a noob, and that says a lot.

with the new awd cars these days thats becoming a falacy(sp)

either go to a auto tech school or do some research noob.

EDIT: tow this to OT. its completely BS and it has nothing to do with anything.

Its not wrong too make a mistake, no one is going to kill you for that, but to be an asshole on top of being wrong is a little too much though.

I am not sure what the figure for drivetrain loss is on an AWD, I would assume it would have be at least 29%. FWD loses 12%, and RWD loses 17%
I am sure the transfer case (on a mitsubishi for ex, not the subaru) could take another 1% or so.

Nice kill though, that car is a complete sleeper. Get an intercooler installed and head over to the dyno! The M30 is a good engine to turbo

with the new awd cars these days thats becoming a falacy(sp)

either go to a auto tech school or do some research noob.

EDIT: tow this to OT. its completely BS and it has nothing to do with anything.


Ban stick please:lol

Hahaha, thanks guys.

I ordered a Heat Exchanger and a Ford Racing intercooler pump last night. I DEFINITLY will be getting a dyno once my setup is done, Ill take some pics too and post em up.

The reason I dont think it was stock, Is because my car feels pretty fast, and while I was at the same boost level, I saw a guy with an e36 m3 with atleast an Exhaust on it. He tried to fly by me up a hill(also on hawthorne, going up the hill).

I was at like 10mph in 2nd gear and floored it. I ended up pulling several bus lengths on him up to 100( I didnt fly away until 3rd gear, i only pulled 1-2 cars through 2nd gear).

I coudlnt even see him behind me, I had to wait like 10-15 seconds(I hit traffic up ahead) before I saw him behind me.

As for drivetrain loss, my '03 WRX puts down 188WHP from Subaru's 227HP that they give it.

e34m535t (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/member.php?u=36014): Was the WRX the 06 model or the previous model? The current one puts out more power with less boost and increased displacement. The thing is though that it still uses the same turbo as before so the boost can be cranked up for an easy power gain.

he probably has a turbo im gessing 12-15 psi on the wrx, and when you get your intercooler and u get double digets on boost u would be abel to take him no problem.

he probably has a turbo im gessing 12-15 psi on the wrx, and when you get your intercooler and u get double digets on boost u would be abel to take him no problem.

Yeah im pretty sure he does have a turbo, come to think of it, i do believe all WRXs do :eek: .

Anyways, 12-15psi is stock for a wrx, btw. So essentialy your arguing he ran a stock wrx and got beat? Anythings possible. :devillook

Keep in mind, with the same money invested in the bimmer vs. the wrx, you'd be fighing a loosing battle.