View Full Version : 99 M3 Supercharged vs 06 Saleen Mustang
lorkar 08-21-2006, 02:36 AM I was pulling out of the parking lot at a local strip mall and I noticed a spanking new 06 Saleen Mustang....I pulled around to take a look....it had a 281 tag over a supercharged badge on the front fender...{means nothing to me}....the owner came out while i was looking..."nice ride" I said...he says thanks and we talk about the car....he tells me it 435hp at the crank and its the way it comes from the dealer....he just got it a week ago....after a short chat I asked if he's willing to run me....he gladly accepts.....we head down to an area thats wide open on the freeway and wait for no traffic...its about ten pm and fairly quiet....pull off the off ramp and he gets beside me....40mpr....I'm in second gear ....we start to run it up a bit and three honks we go.....I'm right in the power band and I pull real well....the Saleen is right beside me....I hit third and he pulls a half car....before I hit 4th he's a whole car ahead.....he pulled steady from there.....we did it twice more with the same results......I'm running about 350hp to his 435 but I'm geared low.....it was a fun race....he says he's getting an upgrade...to make him in the 500hp area.....very nice car...anyone really know the saleen cars.....i was real impressed.....I've beat 05 06 GTs.....this thing handed me my butt....fun to run a decent guy with no attitude.
AzzMan 08-21-2006, 03:02 AM :eek: An S281? I haven't seen one of those yet! He had the Supercharged model (Duh, it basically said that), the middle-class one, overshadowed by the Extreme which puts out something like 550hp. Fast as hell cars, I'm told, but not quite as tuneable as a Cobra or something.
Sounds like you got in some nice runs, what color was it, also was it a convertible, coupe or did it have a targatop?
lorkar 08-21-2006, 10:32 AM It was a black coupe....complete with the rear spoiler..something I personally don't like but it worked on this car....the front spoiler clearly shows the intercooler and looks real badazz.
rick'sm3 08-21-2006, 11:19 AM shit i bet he was surprised as ball when you hung with him, thats probably why hes getting the upgrade
jrhaile 08-21-2006, 11:26 AM nice death... I do like the styling of those Saleen's on the new model.. someone should post a pic of how agressive those things look :D
bijanmaleki 08-21-2006, 01:11 PM Nice run... I dont know, I kinda like the older saleens looks more than the ew ones
lorkar 08-21-2006, 02:01 PM He told me where he works...the ford dealer...lol....I'll run down later and see if I can snap off a few pics.
amfj328i 08-21-2006, 03:39 PM http://images.automotive.com/cob/factory_automotive/images/features/auto_shows/2006_CIAS/2006_Saleen_Mustang_S281%20Coupe_Front.jpg
06 s281
nice death, must have been great to hear!
sweet looking ride, but dont like those wheels at all.
jrhaile 08-21-2006, 04:25 PM yeah wheels suck, typical of a ford to run with something like that though for shoes :rolleyes
Also why doesn't anyone who owns a ford fucking paint their mirrors? retarded...
Ahmed303 08-21-2006, 07:22 PM Also why doesn't anyone who owns a ford fucking paint their mirrors? retarded...
:lol
Mahalaleel 08-21-2006, 07:22 PM It was a black coupe....complete with the rear spoiler..something I personally don't like but it worked on this car....the front spoiler clearly shows the intercooler and looks real badazz.
There's something about the new mustangs without spoilers that looks naked to me... the Saleen looks bigger and heavier than the normal GT, almost like a tank. It looks good, but seems like if you tried to turn it would just keep going straight..
Dealwitme 08-21-2006, 07:32 PM The Saleen is rated at 425 hp and thats not at the rear wheels. Plus it ways about 4,000lbs.
Ahmed303 08-21-2006, 07:36 PM The Saleen is rated at 425 hp and thats not at the rear wheels. Plus it ways about 4,000lbs.
Damn! That is Heavier than my car. My car is 1790Kg (3947 Lbs).
AzzMan 08-21-2006, 07:52 PM The Saleen is rated at 425 hp and thats not at the rear wheels. Plus it ways about 4,000lbs.
THAT S281 is, there's a 550hp version whcih weighs about the same ammount, more like 3700lb iirc but I'm not 100% on that.
Ahmed303 08-21-2006, 07:55 PM Found it. Saleen S281E is 550HP and 3550 lbs.
Mahalaleel 08-21-2006, 07:58 PM Damn! That is Heavier than my car. My car is 1790Kg (3947 Lbs).
8 series weighs 4000 Lbs? Where do they hide it?
Kind of OT, but how do you have an 860...? I thought there were 850s and 850CSLs...
Dealwitme 08-21-2006, 08:17 PM Pardon me, I was thinking of the Shelby 500.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=484 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=499>http://saleen.com/images/separator.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=473 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=231>SPECIFICATIONS</TD><TD width=230>2006 SALEEN S281 SC Coupe </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>GENERAL</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Curb Weight, lb.</TD><TD>est 3550</TD></TR><TR><TD>Weight Distribution, F/R</TD><TD>53/47</TD></TR><TR><TD>Fuel Capacity, gal.</TD><TD>15.7</TD></TR><TR><TD>Wheelbase, in.</TD><TD>107.1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Track, F/R</TD><TD>63.9/62.8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Width</TD><TD>74.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Length</TD><TD>189.1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Height</TD><TD>56.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Trunk Space, cubic ft.</TD><TD>12.3</TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>ENGINE</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Type</TD><TD class=xl29>4.6L, 3V, SOHC V-8
</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl32 height=16>Bore and Stroke</TD><TD class=xl26>3.55 x 3.54 in.
</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Displacement</TD><TD class=xl29>4.6 liters, 281 cu in.</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Accessory Pulleys</TD><TD class=xl29>Saleen Underdrive Pulleys</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Exhaust System</TD><TD class=xl29>Saleen Stainless, 2.5 in. Variable Exhaust</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Horsepower</TD><TD class=xl29>435 bhp @ 5800 RPM</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Torque</TD><TD class=xl29>425 lb-ft @ 4000 RPM</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Fuel</TD><TD class=xl29>Premium Unleaded 91 Octane</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Saleen Intercooled Supercharger</TD><TD class=xl29>Saleen Series VI Integrated TwinScrew Supercharger With Two-Stage Water-To-Air Intercooler System; Cast 356-T6 aluminum alloy constructions</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16> </TD><TD class=xl29> </TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>DRIVETRAIN</TD><TD class=xl29> </TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Transmission, standard </TD><TD class=xl29>Saleen Quick Ratio 5-Speed Transmission </TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Transmission, optional </TD><TD class=xl29>5-Speed Electronically Controlled Automatic </TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>8.8 in. Differential 3:55:1 Ratio</TD><TD class=xl29>Standard, Manual Transmission</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>8.8 in. Differential 3:31:1 Ratio</TD><TD class=xl29>Standard, Automatic Transmission</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16>Saleen MaxGrip Speed-Sensitive Limited Slip </TD><TD class=xl29>Optional</TD></TR><TR height=16><TD class=xl31 height=16> </TD><TD class=xl29> </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>AIR MANAGEMENT DESIGN </TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD colSpan=2>Saleen design injection molded TPO front fascia </TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD class=white_txt_12 colSpan=2>Saleen front aero ducting (New for 2006)</TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD colSpan=2>Saleen design injection molded TPO side skirts and door cladding </TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD colSpan=2>Saleen design injection molded TPO rear fascia </TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD colSpan=2>Saleen design front grille </TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD colSpan=2>Saleen integrated front turn signals </TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD colSpan=2>Saleen center body panels (rear) </TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD colSpan=2>Saleen design rear spoiler and end caps</TD></TR><TR class=white_txt_12><TD colSpan=2>Saleen design quarter window trim (New for 2006) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Dealwitme 08-21-2006, 08:23 PM Sorry didn't realize the white font.
Dealwitme 08-21-2006, 08:25 PM Try this.
the most important upgrade to potential Saleen buyers is the increase in horsepower for the 2006 model year. With the new Z06 Corvette, and Shelby Cobra GT500 (http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2005/news0003gt500.php) being released with extremely high horsepower numbers it only makes sense that buyers are going to be looking for a hp increase across the board. To combat this Saleen is increasing the power in their mid range Mustang, the S281 SC (supercharged), to 435hp. An increase of 35hp over the 2005 model's 400hp output. Although this number is far from the Z06 Corvette's 505hp, it takes a nice lead over the standard Corvette's 400hp rating. On another note, although this number seems to be close to the Shelby Cobra GT500's rating of "over 450hp" the reality of it is that the GT500 will likely be putting out closer to 500hp. So the main question is, which will buyers go for? The extremly slick styling, and superior handling of the Saleen SC or the grunt of the GT500? I guess only time will tell, but then again Saleen still offers the option of their "Extreme" model with an estimated 500hp for those looking for that grunt and styling.
AzzMan 08-21-2006, 09:18 PM To reiterate once more,
http://www.saleen.com/s281_e_specs.htm
550bhp, 500lb-ft AND it has the same 3,550 weight of the 435bhp model. Too bad it costs $17,000 more than the S281 Supercharged, or $26,000 more than the 3-valve.
Ahmed303 08-21-2006, 10:45 PM 8 series weighs 4000 Lbs? Where do they hide it?
Kind of OT, but how do you have an 860...? I thought there were 850s and 850CSLs...
It is in all the electronics, 2 batteries and all the other CAN Bus wiring and stuff.
This is a 1 off by PowerPlant of North Carolina by Henry Laurence. The M70 engine bored and stroked to 6L. Thus the 860. More details in the 8 series Forum.
Possibly the most powerful N/A E31 besides the Dinan Twin Turbo with 666HP.
328 is man 08-22-2006, 02:01 PM for all that money you would think they would drop in a 6 speed for christ sake...
Ahmed303 08-22-2006, 02:08 PM for all that money you would think they would drop in a 6 speed for christ sake...
Is it a 5 Speed?
AzzMan 08-22-2006, 06:12 PM Is it a 5 Speed?
<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="473"><tbody><tr height="16"><td class="xl31" height="16">DRIVETRAIN</td><td class="xl29">
</td></tr><tr height="16"><td class="xl31" height="16">Transmission, standard </td><td class="xl29">Saleen Quick Ratio 5-Speed Transmission</td></tr></tbody></table>
Yeah it's a 5-speed, but the Saleen Mustang is quick in the quarter, it's not exactly too worried about having a 6th gear.
SG Wannabe 08-22-2006, 06:16 PM Who cares if you lost. You drive a BMW and he drives a Ford. You win.
Ahmed303 08-22-2006, 06:34 PM Who cares if you lost. You drive a BMW and he drives a Ford. You win.
Well!!! It all depends on What Ford.
The Top of the Line BMW = 760i or ///M6?
The Top of the line Ford = Ford GT
I would probably take the Top of the line Ford over the Top of the Line BMW.
Dang!!! Even my Jaguar X-Type 3.0 is a glorified Ford but it is more plush than the 330Xi (Apples to Apples compariuson) and I walk E46 330s all day.
trBo328iKevo 08-24-2006, 05:17 AM I have not yet seen a new Saleen S281 mustang yet on the street, nor the new Cobras which dont come out till late this year so dont nobody say you raced that because ill make you look stupid, nor the new SHelby GT500's but i can't wait to see them thats all i gotta say.
AzzMan 08-24-2006, 05:31 AM I raced a GT500 from a dig tonight and won!
lorkar 08-24-2006, 02:16 PM The local ford dealer has an S281 on the lot and I still see the one I raced from time to time....he lives near by....thats all I gotta say.
amfj328i 08-24-2006, 02:22 PM I raced a GT500 from a dig tonight and won!
what was that gt thinking? like he could ever keep up with a 318!
:lol J/P.
AzzMan 08-24-2006, 02:47 PM Next time I'm in Daytona I'm going to the automall to see if the Ford dealer has any in. Just to see.
NHbmw325I 08-24-2006, 02:48 PM yeah wheels suck, typical of a ford to run with something like that though for shoes :rolleyes
Also why doesn't anyone who owns a ford fucking paint their mirrors? retarded...
my ford contours mirrors were color matched :stickoutt
lorkar 08-25-2006, 02:24 AM Here's the sister car....they are identical outside of the number they're assigned....beautiful machine.
nice run...sweet cars:buttrock
Lostlife656 08-25-2006, 02:50 AM cool....
lorkar 08-25-2006, 02:58 AM The full body shot.....this is number 20...the car I ran was #19....I didn't know how few these car really are......the dealer said they only get 5 per yr.
lorkar 08-25-2006, 03:04 AM One more....
lorkar 08-25-2006, 03:05 AM OK...I totally agree about the mirrors.
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