I was at a local car show and decided to run a friends car on the way home. His mustang gt looks stone stock under the hood, exept for a nitrous kit, but sounds pretty impressive.
We agree to run without the bottle. We went about four runs from 50mph or so each time. The mustang pulled away hard every time no matter who jumped first.

For the last run he turned the bottle on an let me get out about 2 1/2 cars before reeling me in and passing me like my cruise control was on.
I was hoping for a little high end advantage at those speeds but, no luck.

What's it take to put a turbo on one of these cars? lol.

I'm assuming he is a SVT Cobra...pulleys and all...

i hope it wasnt just a GT

there was no 02 Cobra

if it was an 02 GT, and bone stock at that you should have walked him

if it was a stock 01 Cobra you still should have pulled on him

if it was a stock 03 Cobra you would have gotten walked

assuming it was an 02 GT and he was stock (or even modded for that matter), something is not adding up here cause they really shouldn't be a match for an e46 M3 from a roll w/out the N2O. however, considering he does have nitrous on the car, chances are he is not stock or maybe he was spraying the whole time

and you should still pull a SVT, my bros e34 m5 pulls them!!

no way in hell that mustang should have beat you..

parking brake on?? or bad driver???

Oh sorry, it is a GT. Its not stock, he has nitrous cams as well as exhaust and ported heads. It just runs really well, always has; when it was stock it ran 13.9 at the motorplex on 17" drag radials. I knew I couldn't beat it, I just thought it would be closer. I want to put the spray on this car now.

Damn Mustang GTs pull on e46 m3s with that mods..??

Oh sorry, it is a GT. Its not stock, he has nitrous cams as well as exhaust and ported heads. It just runs really well, always has; when it was stock it ran 13.9 at the motorplex on 17" drag radials. I knew I couldn't beat it, I just thought it would be closer. I want to put the spray on this car now.

lol, saying "His mustang looks stone stock under the hood, exept for a nitrous kit..." gave a slightly different impression ;)

in that case, since he is heavily modded... nice death!

lol, saying "His mustang looks stone stock under the hood, exept for a nitrous kit..." gave a slightly different impression ;)

in that case, since he is heavily modded... nice death!
Eh, I tried. Just makes the speed bug itch more, lol.

and you should still pull a SVT, my bros e34 m5 pulls them!!
maybe in stock form. I know quit a few pulleied SVT's around me locally, I've seen them dyno in the uppr 4's and lower 5's with just bolt ons

Damn Mustang GTs pull on e46 m3s with that mods..??
It ran some bottom eights on 17's at the local 1/8th mile. I haven't had a chance to get this car to the track and see how it runs, but the butt-o-meter says it should be pretty good if I can launch it.

maybe in stock form. I know quit a few pulleied SVT's around me locally, I've seen them dyno in the uppr 4's and lower 5's with just bolt ons

you do know that all Cobras aren't blown, right?

you do know that all Cobras aren't blown, right?
Yes, although I thought the year at hand was....but i have been wrong before so I'm not going to argue it.

^yeah, theres a huge variety in power in the cobras. If this car was built with a nice head and cams, theyre lethal mustangs are some of the best bolt on cars of all time

Yes, although I thought the year at hand was....but i have been wrong before so I'm not going to argue it.

yeah, i'm not trying to argue either... just gettin the facts out there :)

as i posted above, there was no 02 cobra. the 93-98, 99, and 01 cobras were all N/A (although there are large differences among some of these MYs) and the 03-04 cobras were blown

I was at a local car show and decided to run a friends car on the way home. His mustang gt looks stone stock under the hood, exept for a nitrous kit, but sounds pretty impressive.
We agree to run without the bottle. We went about four runs from 50mph or so each time. The mustang pulled away hard every time no matter who jumped first.

For the last run he turned the bottle on an let me get out about 2 1/2 cars before reeling me in and passing me like my cruise control was on.
I was hoping for a little high end advantage at those speeds but, no luck.

What's it take to put a turbo on one of these cars? lol.

I take it, aside from what's in your sig, YOU are stock right?

I take it, aside from what's in your sig, YOU are stock right?
Yup.

hmmm nice death i guess. sad to see a GT mustang beat you like he did, but if you are running low 8's in the 1/8th then i doubt you are a bad driver. obvioulsy if he were stalk then you would have eaten him

Glad you clarified the mods. I have walked tons of GT Mustangs all the way up to the new ones. I had a 99 Cobra years ago and it was great from about 0-100, after that it didn't have much. 4th and especially 5th was WAY too big in those cars. Tell your buddy to swap out the diff, that is one thing that gives mustangs way better acceleration times and it's cheap.

nice run

hmmm nice death i guess. sad to see a GT mustang beat you like he did, but if you are running low 8's in the 1/8th then i doubt you are a bad driver. obvioulsy if he were stalk then you would have eaten him
I haven't run this car yet, I was replying about the gt.

even with cams/exhaust he shouldnt have beat you that only adds like 30rwhp?!? It would dyno @ maybe 240-250 to the wheels, still lacking 30 hp on the m3...especially on hwy punch, id bet he sprayed a little the first time and a lot the 2nd, without the N20 a cammed gt wont walk a e46 m3, unless if you have the bad driver mod?

Glad you clarified the mods. I have walked tons of GT Mustangs all the way up to the new ones. I had a 99 Cobra years ago and it was great from about 0-100, after that it didn't have much. 4th and especially 5th was WAY too big in those cars. Tell your buddy to swap out the diff, that is one thing that gives mustangs way better acceleration times and it's cheap.

nice run
Oh yeah, I know. I hang out with a really heavy domestic crowd. He already has 3.73's. Yeah, overdrive is pretty wide on them.

even with cams/exhaust he shouldnt have beat you that only adds like 30rwhp?!? It would dyno @ maybe 240-250 to the wheels, still lacking 30 hp on the m3...especially on hwy punch, id bet he sprayed a little the first time and a lot the 2nd, without the N20 a cammed gt wont walk a e46 m3, unless if you have the bad driver mod?
Ported heads too. They dyno around 240rwhp stock. Last time this one was dyno tuned it was 298rwhp/300tq NA, and 460rwhp/600rwtq on the hose. I think it was a mustang dyno too.

ahh missed the ported heads! and they dyno around 212-225 to the wheels stock..never 240 if they dynod at 240 that would be like a 7% drive train loss which is un heard of normally...and how big of a shot to gain 160 rwhp and 300 tq!!!!

the right bolt ons and gears will make a world of difference in the 2V GTs

ahh missed the ported heads! and they dyno around 212-225 to the wheels stock..never 240 if they dynod at 240 that would be like a 7% drive train loss which is un heard of normally...and how big of a shot to gain 160 rwhp and 300 tq!!!!
I've seen several 5spds on dj's inbetween 230 and 240 stock, a couple had a k&n and some weld in mufflers, but in my world that might as well be stock.
The pill was a 125hp setup for a custom wet kit. He upped it to a 150 pill now.

the right bolt ons and gears will make a world of difference in the 2V GTs
True, most of the pi cars I have seen tend to run in the low to mid thirteen range over 100 with exhaust/BO's/gears/tires.

I'd like to get this E46 a little deeper than that, so I'm researching what the common route is, while considering building a custom exhaust setup. Although, I am not sure if the factory pipes are that restrictive.

True, most of the pi cars I have seen tend to run in the low to mid thirteen range over 100 with exhaust/BO's/gears/tires.

I'd like to get this E46 a little deeper than that, so I'm researching what the common route is, while considering building a custom exhaust setup. Although, I am not sure if the factory pipes are that restrictive.

from what i read only restrictive thing on the factory exhaust is headers/cats...everything else is just for sound and maybe a few hp, though replacing the stock heavy exuast and dropping 30lbs can really help a lot or go with the gruppe m which only weighs 12lb! and you drop like 45-50lbs, thats a decent amount of weight to lose for just exhaust

I've seen several 5spds on dj's inbetween 230 and 240 stock, a couple had a k&n and some weld in mufflers, but in my world that might as well be stock.
The pill was a 125hp setup for a custom wet kit. He upped it to a 150 pill now.

maybe right @ sea level on a cold non humid day i guess..i live in dallas and used to frequent the dfwstangs board a very populated board and id say 90% of people dyno'd anywhere from 212-225 mostly on Dynojets

True, most of the pi cars I have seen tend to run in the low to mid thirteen range over 100 with exhaust/BO's/gears/tires.

I'd like to get this E46 a little deeper than that, so I'm researching what the common route is, while considering building a custom exhaust setup. Although, I am not sure if the factory pipes are that restrictive.

You clearly have the nicer car.....lol.

My best friend has an 02 mustang GT with 4.30s, longtubes, x pipe, catback, cai, throttle body, new maf, new intake plenum, pullies, diablo chip, alum. driveshaft, upper and lower control arms and that thing is so much fun to drive. It's going to be disgusting when he gets back from Iraq though.....switching to a 9 inch with 3.55s, forged bottom end, boost cams, ported heads and a kenne belle. We are hoping for as close to 600 rwhp as possible without a bottle....