ok so i just got my E30 and my friend said lets go out tonight, he drove my civic and i drove the E30 we found a nice long stretch of road that was always quiet. and off we went, the E30 is such a raw driving machine its unreal, the civic starts to pull on me slightly BUT when we hit 60 the E30 starts to pull on the civic by the time i hit 110 mph i was 2 car lengths infront of him, we did the same from a rolling start of 50 miles per hour this time i was 3 maybe 3.5 car lengths ahead :D so over all i have a nice fast DD civic and a gorgeously fast as stock E30 325 :D now i definaly know i made a good choice buying a bimmer. More to come i hope :D

clean E30 love the rims! And its faster than the civic R really?? I would have thought other wise???

i just pulled on him whether my friend was just messing or not i dont know, he said he was giving it all the gas... he was faster to 60 though.

that e30 looks awesome! i love the rims!

i too am surprised the civic didn't win.

i know the Civic has 200bho doesnt it or some one here said it did, but the E30 is just so responsive the civic is quick to 60 but the E30 is quicker after 60 mph

Well nice run and good luck with the E30 Looks good

thank you :)

those are Aplina rims right?

17" alpina replicas so i am told

17" alpina replicas so i am told

Love the wheels!:D

17" alpina replicas so i am told

Your E30 is so clean! Burn the honda.. :devillook

Are you planning to get a suspension for the e30?

So you killed your own car? lol

So you killed your own car? lol

Thread title shoulda been "I killed myself." :stickoutt

haha ! i just wanted to see how my E30 would go against my civic

Nice kill! And you'd take yourself in the twisties too!

Nce E30, I'm digging the rear buckets, and definetly +1 on the wheels.

Clean vert!!!

Nce E30, I'm digging the rear buckets, and definetly +1 on the wheels.

I dont think they are buckets in the rear, just the stock seats with headrests, it is pretty unusual but I have seen a couple like that. IIRC they were optional on the M technic package.

clean e30 laydee

Clean vert!!!

+1

unanimous decision that you got a HOT bimmer. i think we could use some more pictures..
those alpina wheels finish it nicely!

nice e30....but damn you post ALOT
Total Posts: 463 (73.53 posts per day) :eek:

nice e30....but damn you post ALOT
Total Posts: 463 (73.53 posts per day) :eek:

Dayuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! :D

please tell me uk Civic type Rs are us Civic EXs... i mean cummon...

btw... nice e30 convertable.

Post whore...lol just playing.

I have a hard time believing that a somewhat heavy stock 325 beat a Civic Type R on the top end... :confused

please tell me uk Civic type Rs are us Civic EXs... i mean cummon...

btw... nice e30 convertable.

I think they were called Si-R here. Either way, they had 160 hp here, and I think 200 in Europe.

nice e30, Ilove the old skool verts.

I find this hard to believe, or your friend is bollocks at shifting.

An E30 325 'vert is a mid to low 15-second car, and so is a USDM Civic Si hatchback. A 200-hp Civic Type R should be, and is considerably faster than either car.

For those that don't have any idea about the Civic Type R, think of an RSX Type S with about 200lbs taken off.

Also, my skepticism increases, thinking about the fact that two days ago, you were beating an E30, and now you bought one?

Maybe a pic of both your cars next to each other?

I find this hard to believe, or your friend is bollocks at shifting.

An E30 325 'vert is a mid to low 15-second car, and so is a USDM Civic Si hatchback. A 200-hp Civic Type R should be, and is considerably faster than either car.

For those that don't have any idea about the Civic Type R, think of an RSX Type S with about 200lbs taken off.

Also, my skepticism increases, thinking about the fact that two days ago, you were beating an E30, and now you bought one?

Maybe a pic of both your cars next to each other?


Exactly. With a simple reflash, RSX-Ss hang with E36 M3s. An E30 'vert is far from that territory.

There, someone has to say it :

:bs

erm. I know for a fact my 325 beats a stock rsx-s.

erm. I know for a fact my 325 beats a stock rsx-s.


You have a modded E36. A stock E30, a 'vert at that, is another story. Please.

Exactly. With a simple reflash, RSX-Ss hang with E36 M3s. An E30 'vert is far from that territory.

There, someone has to say it :

:bs


Haha rocelle (sp?) Welcome to the kill section. If what you post is true or not, you will have that flag called on you 95% of the time.

Kinda rough lol.

ok so i just got my E30 and my friend said lets go out tonight, he drove my civic and i drove the E30 we found a nice long stretch of road that was always quiet. and off we went, the E30 is such a raw driving machine its unreal, the civic starts to pull on me slightly BUT when we hit 60 the E30 starts to pull on the civic by the time i hit 110 mph i was 2 car lengths infront of him, we did the same from a rolling start of 50 miles per hour this time i was 3 maybe 3.5 car lengths ahead :D so over all i have a nice fast DD civic and a gorgeously fast as stock E30 325 :D now i definaly know i made a good choice buying a bimmer. More to come i hope :D


Do you work or go to school? All you do is sit on BF and post all day. 75 posts/day? :confused

Are you doing anything constructive or productive with your life besides kissing a beer and taking a picture?

Hey, shes a nice girl but I am curious as to how she has a higher post per day counter then me lol.Do you work or go to school? All you do is sit on BF and post all day. 75 posts/day? :confused

Are you doing anything constructive or productive with your life besides kissing a beer and taking a picture?

Hey, shes a nice girl but I am curious as to how she has a higher post per day counter then me lol.

no kidding, its a lot. sounds like shes got cash, maybe shes on a fancy pda or something? i check the forums a lot too.. i just dont post everytime. rochelle stated in her first kill thread that she tries to be polite and respond to each post. :)

I find this hard to believe, or your friend is bollocks at shifting.

An E30 325 'vert is a mid to low 15-second car, and so is a USDM Civic Si hatchback. A 200-hp Civic Type R should be, and is considerably faster than either car.

For those that don't have any idea about the Civic Type R, think of an RSX Type S with about 200lbs taken off.

Also, my skepticism increases, thinking about the fact that two days ago, you were beating an E30, and now you bought one?

Maybe a pic of both your cars next to each other?

FYI i was hanging with an E36 318i the other day . NOT E30. and that was a i`ll say it again 318I not 325I. the M3 i saw a couple of days ago was an E46 i said NOTHING bout E30s just that they are cool i like them simple as if you dont agree with me then fine. my friend doesnt race alot so yes he maybe be rubbish at shifting my Type R when racing, he has only driven it twice before and everything is completely different to his 96 civic.

Do you work or go to school? All you do is sit on BF and post all day. 75 posts/day? :confused

Are you doing anything constructive or productive with your life besides kissing a beer and taking a picture?

i work but i have taken two weeks off for a break and holiday away from the office, that is how i came across bimmer forums.

yes sir :(

i bet if i pretended to be a chipper female more people would respond to my threads.

i bet if i pretended to be a chipper female more people would respond to my threads.
:shifty

Hey, shes a nice girl but I am curious as to how she has a higher post per day counter then me lol.
Its becuase she is more of a post whore :stickoutt

Its becuase she is more of a post whore :stickoutt
98.7% of my posts are worthy of making. This is not one of them.

nice Suicide? hahaha, funny u took out your own car =P

Dang, You guys are ruthless...have a little respect...

what are you talking about? did i miss some apparent rudeness?

Dang, You guys are ruthless...have a little respect...


Ruthless? An E30 'vert hanging with one of the quickest cars Honda ever made save for the S2000?

That's not being ruthless; that's being realistic.

Ruthless? An E30 'vert hanging with one of the quickest cars Honda ever made save for the S2000?

That's not being ruthless; that's being realistic.

I wasn't talking about that, I was refering to all the other snide remarks about the OP.

the civic is fast but i wouldnt say it is that fast. My friend who drove my Type R has the older type civic so mine is completely new to him, he had a 5 minute drive down the road to get used to it. YES he may not of been driving at his full potential but after i hit 60mph and gained back my loss i just pulled and pulled.

Hugo answer this - HAVE YOU ever got straight into a NEW and STRANGE car and driven it to its full potential knowing where and what ALL the dials and Knobs in the car do? because i know if you can do that you are superhuman or lying that you havent had experiance with this car before..... it was NOT a serious race it was just a QUICK race to see how the civic and the bimmer would fair against eachother THAT is it. and i thought i would just share that with you.. Kay?

ur buddy sandbagged u. or cant drive one of the 2.

Then it's not really valid. You made it a point to say that the E30 fared better. To make sure this was in any way accurate, you should have done back-to-back runs switching drivers. I'm not saying that it didn't happen that way because of outside circumstances. I still believe that an E30 'vert is not quicker than a Type R. Even if it was, to win by 3.5 car lengths from 50 to 110 is not a kill, it's an all out ass-rape. So whether or not the other driver could drive the Civic to it's full potential or not, the outcome doesn't make sense, unless the E30 is modded and you don't know about it.

And BTW, a Civic isn't that strange or whatnot. It's still a good ole quick little car with a clutch, a shiftstick and a gas pedal. It's not like learning how to launch an SMG-II-equipped car at the track you know. We're talking about a rolling start where the guy had to shift twice at most.

Who cares where the knobs and dials are? Watch that tach and shift.

Seriously, if it wasn't a girl posting, no one would care. She just has about 230000 teabaggers right now.

Just take a picture of yourself in the car and prove all the doubters wrong. That's easy right?

no we didnt do back to back runs as he is not insured on my BMW maybe i could risk it and go out and do some more back to back runs just for you.

but then again i've never driven a true ctr especially a european spec one. ive grown up around itr's and hybrids out the ass and i get raped nonstop and so do all my friends with m3's by my one friend with an ITR swapped EG Hatch w/ Hondata. I guess im talking mush now.

yo Eff insurance.

Seriously, if it wasn't a girl posting, no one would care. She just has about 230000 teabaggers right now.

Just take a picture of yourself in the car and prove all the doubters wrong. That's easy right?

If you have read previous posts you would know that i dont actually have a camera, i was using my friends yesterday which he took the pictures with and then emailed them directly to me. but as soon as i have use of the camera again i will be taking some rather good pictures to make you all :)

with or without the bikini on?

with or without the bikini on?:rolleyes

the pictures will be insulting to some of the people who flamed me ;) put it that way.

i think you're cool! im just sayin i wanna see a uk hottie with a right hand drive hottie. just sayin .....

Your aol sn is fleshfesh, need i say more.i think you're cool! im just sayin i wanna see a uk hottie with a right hand drive hottie. just sayin .....

besides you've become quite the popularity of the forums lately.... you'd be unstoppable...

my screen name doesnt mean quite what you think it means probably. OFF THE SUBJECT. BACK TO UK HOTTNESS.

my screen name doesnt mean quite what you think it means probably. OFF THE SUBJECT. BACK TO UK HOTTNESS.This enite thread is off-topic. Hugo will lock it when he comes back.

true dat

haha i doubt that :) i am becoming more and more wearing to enter these forums due to impolite people who think i am talking trash, YES i am new to bimmers YES i have wanted one for a long while and i just wanted to be polite get some info on how to treat a bimmer right if i ever got one, i am very quickly reaching the thought that entering these forums was a big mistake. I dont want the attention i just want to be treated like a normal member who has a bimmer/is interested in bimmers and would like to get to know my car. You already have pictures of me yet people demand more. I have given you the proof now it is down to you to take it or leave it. i am quickly coming to the conclusion that i should just unregister this name and leave bimmerforums for good due to some of the members being rather pathetic.

haha i doubt that :) i am becoming more and more wearing to enter these forums due to impolite people who think i am talking trash, YES i am new to bimmers YES i have wanted one for a long while and i just wanted to be polite get some info on how to treat a bimmer right if i ever got one, i am very quickly reaching the thought that entering these forums was a big mistake. I dont want the attention i just want to be treated like a normal member who has a bimmer/is interested in bimmers and would like to get to know my car. You already have pictures of me yet people demand more. I have given you the proof now it is down to you to take it or leave it. i am quickly coming to the conclusion that i should just unregister this name and leave bimmerforums for good due to some of the members being rather pathetic.Owned. List of pathetic members for added effect.

Oh and i send my deepest appologies out to those who have welcomed me and have made me me feel exelent about getting a bimmer and have done nothing but shower me in compliments about both my cars. My moto is you take me or you see me or there is the door. your choice.

haha i doubt that :) i am becoming more and more wearing to enter these forums due to impolite people who think i am talking trash, YES i am new to bimmers YES i have wanted one for a long while and i just wanted to be polite get some info on how to treat a bimmer right if i ever got one, i am very quickly reaching the thought that entering these forums was a big mistake. I dont want the attention i just want to be treated like a normal member who has a bimmer/is interested in bimmers and would like to get to know my car. You already have pictures of me yet people demand more. I have given you the proof now it is down to you to take it or leave it. i am quickly coming to the conclusion that i should just unregister this name and leave bimmerforums for good due to some of the members being rather pathetic.

take peoples advice, ignore sarcastic or rude comments. this is a great forum to get info from. there are tons of cool people here.

hey im just kidding hunny. this is a forum with a bunch of bro's. you have a hot car. a hot attitute. and you are here for the right reason. i respect everything you just said. i know when i first started posting, i would post topics about things like fuel evap issues and stuff that requires some real digging around and and possible fabrication and no one even responded, yet the dude the posted under me in the same topic about an escort air conditioning problem it got like 30 posts. half the people on here pop their hoods and the other half dont. so rochelle ftw.

I dont want the attention i just want to be treated like a normal member

Right...

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Listen all, back on topic, or this one is toast.

I didn't even know Rochelle was a chick until now. So please, stop the leghumping.

I, for one, think that Rochelle IS an attention whore, and my troll-meter is active, but let's leave it at that for now.

you own my 2 favorite cars! hondas and bmw's. just know that all the attention you have gathered, if you had a real problem like it wouldnt start or you had a check engine lights, and people see that you started the thread, you'd prolly get a million posts with people trying to help you. you've only been on here for a little bit and you post a whole lot so you should expect a lot of diverse responses.

So how bout that ctr vs. e30 race? crazy stuff.

and btw hugo, my girlfriend just passed up buying a 5speed imperial jade mica and got a black one instead, AUTOMATIC. back to topic. sorry

and btw hugo, my girlfriend just passed up buying a 5speed imperial jade mica and got a black one instead, AUTOMATIC. back to topic. sorry


Uggh... :sh1a Why??

Back on topic. The Civic should've won. Ha!

thats what i said, but at least she made the right choice and bought gunmetal volk le-37's

I am going to be doing a back to back race, swapping cars to make sure the race is fair as hugo thinks this is a good idea, my friend does have alot more experiance driving bimmers so i will post the results her. when they are available

Civics are slow.

we shall soon find out in less than 30 minutes when my friend finishes work and he gets his backside round here for a rematch

Civics are slow.

i can think of a hand full of my friend that would shove it in you with no lube right at this moment. that have half the money invested as you.

back to topic

rochelle, do you think that possibly your car has more done to it than you can see? i have not seen all your threads so....

that is the engine the only thing me or my friend can see is the Strut brace. and the sports exhaust the guy said it had on it. can you see any performance mods in there?

Bla bla bla. "My friend has all this work done to his car". Find me a stock civic that is fast. I know plenty of people who have fast gutted hatches too, they don't impress me.i can think of a hand full of my friend that would shove it in you with no lube right at this moment. that have half the money invested as you.

back to topic

rochelle, do you think that possibly your car has more done to it than you can see? i have not seen all your threads so....

My Civic is fast dont get me wrong, it knows how to put the speed down when it needs it. i dont know if it is because the bimmer is lower and louder but it just feels faster

My Civic is fast dont get me wrong, it knows how to put the speed down when it needs it. i dont know if it is because the bimmer is lower and louder but it just feels faster
lol. You should stay on your msn so I am not forced to post off-topic crap here.

edit: lets race from 0-150.

I am going to be doing a back to back race, swapping cars to make sure the race is fair as hugo thinks this is a good idea, my friend does have alot more experiance driving bimmers so i will post the results her. when they are available

Even though I frown on magazine racing, would you be so kind as to post side-to side specs of both cars in UK trim?

I'm curious (hp, torque, weight especially).

the only time i took my civic even near that speed was when i was in germany (went with aload of guys from the group i hang around with) we took the auto bahn and i hit 145 and got quite scared.

Even though I frown on magazine racing, would you be so kind as to post side-to side specs of both cars in UK trim?

I'm curious (hp, torque, weight especially).

I will try and find both sets of specs and email it to you hugo ? i dont know which topic that would fall in. I do know from a reliable source here that my civic hits 200BHP stock.

I will try and find both sets of specs and email it to you hugo ? i dont know which topic that would fall in. I do know from a reliable source here that my civic hits 200BHP stock.
So your e30 beat a 200hp car? I am starting to see hugo's point.

i do believe that the 325i here have 195 BHP stock. do not hold me to that though.

Im jealous. e36 325s over here have 189hp stock. I am definately over 200hp @ the crank now..i do believe that the 325i here have 195 BHP stock. do not hold me to that though.

I didnt know that america got cars that were tuned down. i thought that they were all the same specs worldwide...

I didnt know that america got cars that were tuned down. i thought that they were all the same specs worldwide...Ha. Thats why people envy euro m3s. 320 hp vs 240.

OOH now i feel stupid :( i thought that there was some difference but i thought that was just with certain options

I will try and find both sets of specs and email it to you hugo ? i dont know which topic that would fall in. I do know from a reliable source here that my civic hits 200BHP stock.


By all means post them here. After a kill story is posted (and BS is called :D ), it's always nice to compare.

Ok i will do for you. i will hold you to that so i dont get TO for OT

By all means post them here. After a kill story is posted (and BS is called :D ), it's always nice to compare.
:beermugdr

right my friend is here now so i am off to race this time I am driving the civic.... lets see the results

I don't see what the big deal about HP is..I drive an e28 With ~218 hp and my brother drives a an e34 with ~300 hp. Its a dead even race...

I don't see what the big deal about HP is..I drive an e28 With ~218 hp and my brother drives a an e34 with ~300 hp. Its a dead even race...


Power to weight ratio. Which proves my point even further : A civic weighs NOTHING.

Ok, here are the specs for the M20-B25 engine in that 'vert :

125 kW (167 hp) @ 5800
222 N·m (163 ft·lb) @ 4300

Edit : When did they stop making E30s? :confused

Generally, BMWs come out with a new sedan chassis, and the coupe follows the next year. My buddy had a 92 E36 coupe. They still made E30s in 92?

is that the euro spec or US spec though.

Euro non M engines are not that different. Sometimes only a few hp difference, and then again, it has to do with the way they measure/rate it (bhp vs DIN) etc...

im pretty sure i hate this topic now. and im also pretty sure that you raced a 4banger next to a six banger. and no i didnt see anymore upgrades but then again im looking a side angle picture. and a picture at that.

OK i am back from the run...did the same things as last time from a stoped start and then from a roll. maybe your right... when i drove the civic i walked my E30 maybe it was his driving i am sorry :( ... i pulled atleast 3 car lengths on him. and when we swapped and when i was driving the E30 i walked him... hes not as good driver as i suspect although this time when he drove the civic the gap was alot closer but he still lost.

Power to weight ratio.
Right..power to weight ratio, so by theory he should whoop me because my e28 weighs more then my brothers e34.

e28 1900 kilos
e34 1725 kilos

I weigh more with less hp and its a dead even race. Could you tell me again, please, what the humoungous deal about hp is?

one of you is shifting slowly, a quick clean shift and bringing your clutch up steadily to ease your clutch plates together is a really good shift ( i did learn something when i was learning how to drive ha)

Right..power to weight ratio, so by theory he should whoop me because my e28 weighs more then my brothers e34.

e28 1900 kilos
e34 1725 kilos

I weigh more with less hp and its a dead even race. Could you tell me again, please, what the humoungous deal about hp is?


No idea. With 300hp in a lighter car, he should win, unless he sucks major ass at shifting/driving.

hugo i owe you lots of beers :( forgive me haha

E34's weigh more than e28's......

How do i post a video up her. my friends and i are going back to germany in october to the nurburg and we will be taking videos ???

Civics are slow.

im not EVEN gonna start ragging.

shhhhhh haha dont bite ;) we all know your lil compact bimmer is teh sex and moves like woah!1

good things come in small packages thats why i am only 5ft 7 hehe

Bla bla bla. "My friend has all this work done to his car". Find me a stock civic that is fast. I know plenty of people who have fast gutted hatches too, they don't impress me.


and let me also say, i have owned a civic coupe and an accord coupe. both really clean and jdm. with motor swaps. i came to the bimmer crowd because i was tired of hondas. it doesnt take a whole lot to make a honda faster than a lot of bmw's. and you can leave all the interior in and A/c attached.

E34's weigh more than e28's......
Is that supposed to be a statment or a question? Just to let you know, the numbers that I gave you came straight from the ID plates of each car.

AND my brother wants me to make the point that he does NOT suck at driving...

We figure it is mainly due to the gear ratios and the fact that his car is an Auto...

good things come in small packages thats why i am only 5ft 7 hehe
I don't know if I would call 5ft 7 a small package...I'd call that....average...

sweet E30 :)

Is that supposed to be a statment or a question? Just to let you know, the numbers that I gave you came straight from the ID plates of each car.

AND my brother wants me to make the point that he does NOT suck at driving...

We figure it is mainly due to the gear ratios and the fact that his car is an Auto...

ID plates generally state the GVWR, or gross vehicle weight rating, which is the total amount of weight (passengers and cargo) that a car is allowed to carry.

good things come in small packages thats why i am only 5ft 7 hehe

that's a big package.

that's a big package.


If said package is slim, I'd hit it.

that's a big package.
I wonder how much that costs to ship international.

I wonder how much that costs to ship international.

Screw that...I'd drive to london...I think thats about 13 hours going about 100 mph?

In that case I'll call it 9-10 hours with me driving my bimmer on the Autobahn..

If said package is slim, I'd hit it.
not me, she'd take a hammer to your car if she felt mistreated (she already did it to her ex's Lotus). I don't need anymore female nutcases and their drama.

Subscribed. :eatpop:

If said package is slim, I'd hit it.

OFF TOPIC again, lol

not me, she'd take a hammer to your car if she felt mistreated (she already did it to her ex's Lotus). I don't need anymore female nutcases and their drama.
I have a crazy felling her ex deserved it.

I have a crazy felling her ex deserved it.

Explain said feeling or ban.

If said package is slim, I'd hit it.

:rofl

5ft7 is above uk average

5'7" is a big ol girl :-p

Can we just ban him for fun?Explain said feeling or ban.

Can we just ban him for fun?

Hmm no.

Ill send you that jack for free.Hmm no.

Ill send you that jack for free.

You said you changed your mind. THAT would justify a hefty t.o. :devillook

You said you changed your mind. THAT would justify a hefty t.o. :devillook

hey, i have a M roadster, weres the Z3 love :shifty

You said you changed your mind. THAT would justify a hefty t.o. :devillook

Well I can always find one that fell off the back of a truck. Ban him and you got yourself a deal..lol

hey, i have a M roadster, weres the Z3 love :shifty


I was talking to Mount2102010200201020111101010101.

Ok, back on topic... what's the weight of a damn e30 'vert?

I was talking to Mount2102010200201020111101010101.

Ok, back on topic... what's the weight of a damn e30 'vert?

o oh

325i/S/X 2/4 door, touring, convertible (not iX) M20(motor) 1200(weight in kg) 141(hp) 3.73(final drive) Disc/Disc ABS*(brakes)
http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/e30.html

good things come in small packages thats why i am only 5ft 7 hehe
I thought you Brits measured in Metric, not USstd for length other then mileage?

:rofl

5ft7 is above uk average

And bad teeth?

If said package is slim, I'd hit it.

said package is 98 lbs

I thought you Brits measured in Metric, not USstd for length other then mileage?

There are SO many inconsistencies regarding this thread it wouldn't shock me if the OP is actually some creepy old guy trying to fool an unsuspecting reader into thinking "he" is a hot girl" who shockingly is (wow) into cars, bought a BMW after joining the forum ( already with tags) can out drive a guy, and is planning a trip to the Nurburgring...

Next she is going to ask some leg humper to send her money for airfare from the UK.

Could be wrong.

i doubtthat i make enough money and i pay my own way noob, get things right!

I thought you Brits measured in Metric, not USstd for length other then mileage?

I guess that would be similar to Imperial?

We use both

i doubtthat i make enough money and i pay my own way noob, get things right!

17 with 2 cars.. im jealous,

when i was 17 all i had was a 89 ford ranger, 5 spd, 2.9L with a bum drivers door due to somebody backing into it with a flatbed truck. complete with rust, was bought for $900...

im thinking that if its all true, then you def make enough!

i also have my savings, oh and if i was that desperate for money i have family and friends who will lend it to me in a heartbeat i dont need some guy i met on bimmerforums to give me money thank you

i also have my savings, oh and if i was that desperate for money i have family and friends who will lend it to me in a heartbeat i dont need some guy i met on bimmerforums to give me money thank you

You missed my point by 1.6 kilometers...

email me your point or explain so on here. i am VERY upset some one would even suggest i would ask for money from some one i met on the internet!

thiz threaders iz da rockserz....111
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/kaosborne/catcopynj3.jpg
^j/k
bahhahahaha

email me your point or explain so on here. i am VERY upset some one would even suggest i would ask for money from some one i met on the internet!

You might want to pay a bit more attention next time, jailbait. For a supposed 17year old you act a little dense.
HE doesn't believe you are a real person, nor that you actually own that vehicle.

Grab a camera and today's newspaper and take a picture, YO> Don't want to see you just the car and the paper BTW. Can't take the chance on being accused of soliciting kiddie porn.

if you cant read my responses properly DONT answer..

Power to weight ratio. Which proves my point even further : A civic weighs NOTHING.

Ok, here are the specs for the M20-B25 engine in that 'vert :

125 kW (167 hp) @ 5800
222 N·m (163 ft·lb) @ 4300

Edit : When did they stop making E30s? :confused

Generally, BMWs come out with a new sedan chassis, and the coupe follows the next year. My buddy had a 92 E36 coupe. They still made E30s in 92?

I wouldn't call the Civic's 2800lbs NOTHING. For a FWD 4-cyl car with only 145ft-lbs of torque @ 5900rpm that's a lot of weight to pull, especially when the front end lifts off and all the weight is transferred to the rear, leaving the front wheels to struggle for any sort of traction.

An E30 cabrio (manual) weighs only about 200 lbs more, weighing in at 2988 lbs with 20 more ft-lbs of torque @ 4300rpm.

Oh and E30s were in production till 1993, particularly the Cabrio chassis which was replaced by the E36 325i Cabrio in 1994.

Hope that helps :)

You might want to pay a bit more attention next time, jailbait. For a supposed 17year old you act a little dense.
HE doesn't believe you are a real person, nor that you actually own that vehicle.

Grab a camera and today's newspaper and take a picture, YO> Don't want to see you just the car and the paper BTW. Can't take the chance on being accused of soliciting kiddie porn.

Yeah, definitely. You tell 'em tough guy. I want too see this too. Nobody in this world is rich enough to own an E30.

hahahahhaahha good one hooj, who the hell would lie about owning a E30.

if you cant read my responses properly DONT answer..
I read it properly and explained it for you in very plain English since you were having difficulty doing so. I even offered a course of action that would address his concerns.
:D
now he doesn't have to email you which is a very bad idea when the recieving party is an underage female.

<3 attack eagle.

I wouldn't call the Civic's 2800lbs NOTHING. For a FWD 4-cyl car with only 145ft-lbs of torque @ 5900rpm that's a lot of weight to pull, especially when the front end lifts off and all the weight is transferred to the rear, leaving the front wheels to struggle for any sort of traction.

A Civic Type R weighs in at just above 2600 lbs, bub.

ahem :wave

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hmmm, is it Jamie, Martyn or Ricky?

This is the staff that you will be meeting and will be dealing with you every time you have your car cleaned via our company !
Jamie Scott: - Valet
Jamie having worked at Cavern Used Car Sales for over 2 months doing everything from making cups of tea, valeting cars that just came in, were going out or just washing the forecourt down to make the cars all sparkly to present the customers with a clean fresh car
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Martyn has got some experience through working with his family's cars and making sure his family are driving about in perfectly clean cars with great results. Martyn always is a fresh vibrant colleague to work with and he will treats customers with the same respect and speed he does with his family.
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i think that you will find that Jamie is one of my good friends, how the hell did you get that stuff.

this is my friends old email, he used to valet cars and made a website, he set the email up and i thought it was cute, so he gave me the email. I also used to do some Email work for him THAT is why my email is on the website

I wouldn't call the Civic's 2800lbs NOTHING. For a FWD 4-cyl car with only 145ft-lbs of torque @ 5900rpm that's a lot of weight to pull, especially when the front end lifts off and all the weight is transferred to the rear, leaving the front wheels to struggle for any sort of traction.

An E30 cabrio (manual) weighs only about 200 lbs more, weighing in at 2988 lbs with 20 more ft-lbs of torque @ 4300rpm.

Oh and E30s were in production till 1993, particularly the Cabrio chassis which was replaced by the E36 325i Cabrio in 1994.

Hope that helps :)


The begining of your posts doesn't. :D We're talking about a rolling start here.


You ARE aware that an S2000 has like 130 lbs of torque yet hangs with M Roadsters, right?

17 is legal in New York.

17 is legal in New York.

And in Britain, but goddamn, just keep on driving up that creepy factor. This thread sure as hell needs it.

A Civic Type R weighs in at just above 2600 lbs, bub.

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=91322&Honda

The begining of your posts doesn't. :D We're talking about a rolling start here.


You ARE aware that an S2000 has like 130 lbs of torque yet hangs with M Roadsters, right?

161 ft-lbs of torque ;) and no, it doesn't even hang with a 95 M3

S2000 is absolute crap, i have driven both the "low torque" and "hi-torque" versions. they should be called "lowest torque" and "not as low torque" versions. it is such crappy engine. You do not even feel like you are moving. It was the most depressing engine expereince i've ever had. i'd honestly take a stock 325 over S2000. And the only way to make it beat and M3 is to absolutely abuse the hell out of it as if you had just stolen the car, otherwise its much slower. the one thing i was impressed with is the shifter, it has to be the shorters OEM shift throw ever, almost joystick like. You couldn't pay me to take a S2000 its just a rebodied honda civic

S2000 is absolute crap, i have driven both the "low torque" and "hi-torque" versions. they should be called "lowest torque" and "not as low torque" versions. it is such crappy engine. You do not even feel like you are moving. It was the most depressing engine expereince i've ever had. i'd honestly take a stock 325 over S2000. And the only way to make it beat and M3 is to absolutely abuse the hell out of it as if you had just stolen the car, otherwise its much slower. the one thing i was impressed with is the shifter, it has to be the shorters OEM shift throw ever, almost joystick like. You couldn't pay me to take a S2000 its just a rebodied honda civic

Speaking of torqueless wonders, the RX8 is very similar in that regard. My friend with a 93 RX7 absolutely hates what they did with the new model. Apparently, it can't even spin the stock 225s. What happened to badass Jap cars? Everything is getting mellowed down... at least on the US shores. :(

the problem is their philosophy, they are so obsessed with pushing their redlines higher and making the highest HP/L small displacement engines that they completely overlook their torque issue. HP without torque is useless.

Hugo answer this - HAVE YOU ever got straight into a NEW and STRANGE car and driven it to its full potential knowing where and what ALL the dials and Knobs in the car do? because i know if you can do that you are superhuman or lying that you havent had experiance with this car before..... it was NOT a serious race it was just a QUICK race to see how the civic and the bimmer would fair against eachother THAT is it. and i thought i would just share that with you.. Kay?


whats there to know... all you need to know is the gas, brake, clutch and shifter is... besides the normal safety stuff ie. mirrors seat belts.. etc...

whats there to know... all you need to know is the gas, brake, clutch and shifter is... besides the normal safety stuff ie. mirrors seat belts.. etc...

It's all about the feel dude. Drive a friend's car or girlfriend and you'll see her point. ;)

Speaking of torqueless wonders, the RX8 is very similar in that regard. My friend with a 93 RX7 absolutely hates what they did with the new model. Apparently, it can't even spin the stock 225s. What happened to badass Jap cars? Everything is getting mellowed down... at least on the US shores. :(


no.. jap cars do still have badasses.. but mazda is sorta killin' its big daddies...

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=91322&Honda



161 ft-lbs of torque ;) and no, it doesn't even hang with a 95 M3
... umm... aren't they both low 14 sec cars ?

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=91322&Honda

You got links? I got links too: http://www.import-heaven.net/specs_honda_civic_type_r.shtml

I'd rather believe the site that doesn't put up rounded up, arbitrary numbers, and the site that spells curb, 'curb', instead of 'kerb' - thank you.

the problem is their philosophy, they are so obsessed with pushing their redlines higher and making the highest HP/L small displacement engines that they completely overlook their torque issue. HP without torque is useless.

Shows how much you know, Mr. 'Enthusiast'. HP is DERIVED from TQ. If the car really did have such low TQ, it won't have the power to move itself from a stop. GEARING MULTIPLIES TQ, and only a few cars in the world can match the aggressive gearing of an S2000.

The reason the redline is high IS to compensate for the relatively low TQ of the car. The higher in the RPM range the TQ develops, the better it gets multiplied by gearing. Also, I have heard/seen of more S2000's breaking into the 13's stock than I have E36 M3s.

Link: North America's Fastest Production Cars (http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm)

^ Find the E36 M3 in that list. No? Now find the S2000. Oh, and look for the 350Z while you're at it. It's there, trust me.

I have never owned an S2000, but as an enthusiast, I am ashamed by the rabid fan-boy-ism of some of you. If you could, you'd probably rather drive a badge rather than a car, if you felt it made you look 'classy'.

Here's an article I scanned for some of you:

http://el3arb.com/article.jpg

I won't even post up the vids with the NA S2000 running down an E46 M3 in the Salzburgring, or the one of the also NA S2000 hanging with, and passing a GT3 on a road course.

EDIT: I predict that a similar response as above will be needed in a thread involving a 350Z (notice how it's always the E36 M's nearest competitor being brought down in here?) in 3...2...1...

I love your car. The rims look sweet, what color is the rag top. The car is GANGSTA.

Post pics of you in the bimmer or BAN. Unless, this is your car post up the pic. E30 are pretty quick. I raced on from a roll and was in a higher gear and didn't bother downshifting knowing I would kill it. We were neck and neck til I started to to pull into 4k rpm and walked him.

I won't even post up the vids with the NA S2000 running down an E46 M3 in the Salzburgring, or the one of the also NA S2000 hanging with, and passing a GT3 on a road course.

..

Well you had some good points but you totally lost me with the retarded crystal cove article. Have you ever actually been to crystal cove?

Furthermore, who was talking about road racing. This was freeway/straight line racing, and honestly, the S2000 is a complete dog in a straight line. N/A or F/I, they're both completely slow.

Well you had some good points but you totally lost me with the retarded crystal cove article. Have you ever actually been to crystal cove?

Furthermore, who was talking about road racing. This was freeway/straight line racing, and honestly, the S2000 is a complete dog in a straight line. N/A or F/I, they're both completely slow.

No offense but isn't everything completely slow to a person who drives a car with 800+ rwhp??

No offense but isn't everything completely slow to a person who drives a car with 800+ rwhp??

No, absolutely not. I just feel like someone saying the S2000 is one of the fastest cars, is completely not true. So what it can lap a road course quick. It severely lacks any kind of usable horsepower. You have to drive the freaking thing like you stole it to make enough power to do anything.

I've driven one. The power is a complete joke (please, not comparing it to the Supra...compare it to an E36M3 with a MUCH more usable power band.)

While we're on the topic of S2000's, I've driven my cousin's extensively for long periods of time, so I'll give my humble opinion. The car is an absolute blast to drive. There are very few cars that have the "fun" factor that the S2000 gives (and while others do, it's not as high as the S2000). Every single time I drive that car, I feel like I'm driving a go-kart at a theme park, it's like you're a little kid driving a go-kart for the first time. The handling is awesome. For such a small, nimble car, even in stock trim, this car feels like it's on rails at all times.

That said, the lack of torque gets a little too annoying at times. Sometimes when I'm merging onto a freeway, I feel like I'm driving the Camry because it takes so long to accelerate from a 20 or 30mph punch merging on. I do agree that the gearing on the car is almost untouchable. It needs it. The S2000 wouldn't as quick as it is without its aggressive gearing. If I were to pick a car for my garage that I would have to throw around when I'm in the mood to feel like a kid, the S2000 would be my first choice; no car on the market today compares to its "fun" factor.

My .02

While we're on the topic of S2000's, I've driven my cousin's extensively for long periods of time, so I'll give my humble opinion. The car is an absolute blast to drive. There are very few cars that have the "fun" factor that the S2000 gives (and while others do, it's not as high as the S2000). Every single time I drive that car, I feel like I'm driving a go-kart at a theme park, it's like you're a little kid driving a go-kart for the first time. The handling is awesome. For such a small, nimble car, even in stock trim, this car feels like it's on rails at all times.

That said, the lack of torque gets a little too annoying at times. Sometimes when I'm merging onto a freeway, I feel like I'm driving the Camry because it takes so long to accelerate from a 20 or 30mph punch merging on. I do agree that the gearing on the car is almost untouchable. It needs it. The S2000 wouldn't as quick as it is without its aggressive gearing. If I were to pick a car for my garage that I would have to throw around when I'm in the mood to feel like a kid, the S2000 would be my first choice; no car on the market today compares to its "fun" factor.

My .02


Good post....you conveyed what I was thinking exactly. It's a track car if anything but annoyingly slow.

... umm... aren't they both low 14 sec cars ?

Silverstreak got on in the high 13s with a suicide 7k rpms clutch drop IIRC. :D

that is the engine the only thing me or my friend can see is the Strut brace. and the sports exhaust the guy said it had on it. can you see any performance mods in there?

What you should do is throw on a bigger head to convert to a 2.7, complete performance exhaust from headers to muffler, a cool air intake, and a chip. That will throw you at about 210 maybe more, and then you can put on the limited slip diff. from an E36 Ti and kick some major ass.

i had a friend that did that. Man his car was fast. I think he could do like 140 in 3rd. oh.. thats a little over 110mph for those who cant convert.

Well you had some good points but you totally lost me with the retarded crystal cove article. Have you ever actually been to crystal cove?

Nah. Never claimed to have been. Why, how far do YOU walk away from your car when you go there? :shifty

Did you not get the point of the article? How many times did you have to defend your 800whp car in here from the fan boys that couldn't see beyond their brand/car?

Furthermore, who was talking about road racing. This was freeway/straight line racing, and honestly, the S2000 is a complete dog in a straight line. N/A or F/I, they're both completely slow.

Speaking of straight line: http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/LowVibrationsSQL/Hurricane%20Hotrods/?action=view&current=MOV02484.flv

The M has a passenger, but the S has the top down.

It's all about knowing what you want out of each and every car, if you had it. If you drive an S2000 expecting the same experience as you would in an M3, then you'll be sorely disappointed. For those that can live with such a peaky car for day to day driving, then more power to them. I know I won't be able to.

If someone offered me a choice between an E36 M3 and an S2000 to commute with everyday, then the M is my choice hands down. If the same offer was given me for a canyon blast, then my choice then would be an S, though the M is no slouch at this. It's funny seeing posts in the S forums about how they had to stop and help some poor sap who tried to keep up with them through some turns.

Here's an example: http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=409775

What I mean is each car is a tool. You wouldn't use a hammer for surgery, or a scalpel to chop wood now, would ya? Yet each one is useful in its own area, in its own right.

It's just too bad that oftentimes, the drivers are tools too...

Nah. Never claimed to have been. Why, how far do YOU walk away from your car when you go there? :shifty



I have 20-30 people around my car at almost all times at meets, I can't walk away from it, because people will/have taken things off the car. I have somenoe watch the car when I walk around.

I've had friends that wanted S2000's and I told them to drive one, then drive a C5 Corvette and decide. My one buddy who did buy, ended up buying the Vette, he hated the S2000.

This one has MORE than run its course.

:embarrasm