BMW meet up pipe, up pipe, BMW.

Excuse cam fone

http://e34.digital7.com/MotorBuild/up2.jpg

http://e34.digital7.com/MotorBuild/up3.jpg

http://e34.digital7.com/MotorBuild/up1.jpg


All stainless - the welds are still yet to be "gone over" but its for the most part done. On section is still just tacked but thats a quick 10 minute pass with the TIG. Its going to be supported at the engine mount but it really doesnt even need it! My friend is holding it up because I have 1 bolt at the flange bolted hehe. Also, the bubbly shit in the middle of the pipe is stupid clear tape summit wrapped the part in I didn't feel like picking at it - will remove later.

Nice solution! 3M Goo Gone (3M, dont settle for anything less) will take care of the stuff on the pipe in a minute or two. I'm jealous, you learned how to weld and I'm still sitting on my ass playing with headgaskets :(

:devillook THE UP PIPE ! NICE !

She's coming along!

Do you think it will actually work? One of my welder friends thinks the weight is going to harm the welds at the 90* bend or possibly lose alot of energy due to the distance from the head to the turbo.

:devillook THE UP PIPE ! NICE !

Geno shut up :stickoutt

I could barely understand what you were talking about in ref to this on the phone.

Yer not allowed to drink beer anymore. :D

Haha what we Geno saying?

So why not just flip the manifold then move the flange a little?

beer + bfc

So why not just flip the manifold then move the flange a little?

http://blowneuroz.com/newmotor/mani1.jpg

http://e34.digital7.com/MotorBuild/manifolddesign.jpg

Right, I see that it won't fit with the manifold as it is. You can obviously weld. Why not cut the flange off and weld it back on so that the turbo will fit on top?

The only thing you could is, in that picture cut the flange off and turn it at least if not more than 45 degrees count clock wise like /.. but that's a very harsh turn for the exhaust and still, its too high and not far forward enough. The flange would basically need to be welded at the same angle as the one runner you see on the left... thats not good for flow what so ever.

possibly lose alot of energy due to the distance from the head to the turbo.

I can garuntee you that's incorrect. Have you ever seen a 944 Turbo?

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/exhaust/944_exhaust/2-02-15-5.jpg

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http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/imgdsply.cgi?url=../../images/exhaust/944_exhaust/2-02-05-2.jpg

Before you even get to the turbo, it's like 3ft 6inch's or more to the turbo, just in piping. Oh yeah, and 400whp, with full boost before 3000rpm. The piping will NOT be an issue for Jon, he's easily moving more CFM than me.

Thanks mike - yeah I don't see an issue on the horizon what with the STS remount turbos on z06's and such. They ru 10's with 20' of piping lol.

Fair enough, good points :)

Thanks mike - yeah I don't see an issue on the horizon what with the STS remount turbos on z06's and such. They ru 10's with 20' of piping lol.


mid 9's @ ~ 150 :redspot

looking real good man!!

can't wait to see this thing come together

looking real good man!!

can't wait to see this thing come together


You back jay? I bought a new blade for the saw last night @ a local metal shop :) It cuts so much better!

You want to come up to our shop soon and help out/check out stuff?

I need that 3" SS soon :)

Sick brohiem.....just sick :)

thanks chris

I would think you might want to add some bracing on it to the block. on the 944 its pretty well attached to the engine..Maybe just as a precaution.

Looks pretty cool!!!

What's your ETA on getting it all finished up?

mmmm
this makes me want an E34 turbo project :devillook

I would think you might want to add some bracing on it to the block. on the 944 its pretty well attached to the engine..Maybe just as a precaution.

Looks pretty cool!!!

What's your ETA on getting it all finished up?


Yeah trying to find some stainless flat bar locally now

ETA is whenever I get her done :)

Im in school again in the fall and working an internship now... college spending kicks your butt.

mmmm
this makes me want an E34 turbo project :devillook

Sure. You pay for all the crap, and I'll even let you install it on my car. ;)

Yeah trying to find some stainless flat bar locally now

ETA is whenever I get her done :)

Im in school again in the fall and working an internship now... college spending kicks your butt.

1/2" round rod FTW

Sure. You pay for all the crap, and I'll even let you install it on my car. ;)
psssh, no one wants a SOHC turbo project tim ;)

Round rod will make it difficult to bolt to the engine mount area.

awesome work:alright

Round rod will make it difficult to bolt to the engine mount area.

You weld mounting tabs to the ends cut at the desired angle.

Just saying from experience.

Round rod has less of a tendancy to bend compared to flat stock. And believe it or not, once yer car is running and yer driving. That pipe that seems to hold the turbo well.......will contort from the heat and the weight of the turbo. When you hit a bump that turbo goes from 12lbs to about 400lbs in a fraction of a second. The tube isnt strong enough. I assume its 16-18ga SS and........errrr.........2 1/4" about?

I would suggest two triangulated round rods with mounting tabs welded to them. Two points bolted to the block that triangulate to a near common point on the actual turbine inlet flange of the "up pipe."

Just my hard earned $0.02

:buttrock

2.5" 18g. Where to get said rods?

Will the support bolt to the engine mount itself or somewhere else on the block? From the location of the flange on the up-pipe, I would think somewhere else, but I am not experianced.

I havent decided yet. I am thinking to the point where the engine mount bolts to the block.

Yer "Ohhh Snap!" thing in yer sig cracks me up!

Round rod can be found lots of places. You just have to do some cold calling. You can get it from McMaster Carr in small quantities if you can wait a day or two. They have a warehouse in Cleveland I believe. There should be some fab shops around you with it though.

Any place that does food service sheet metal fabrication should carry lots of different types of SS. Im sure if you called and did the right talking. They would give you some scraps. Scrap yards also seperate SS into defined bins due to its tremendously higher recycling value. Call a few of those and tell them you need a little round rod and would like to come and checkout what they got.

Most places will ablige.

:)

And if not.....PM me.

Actually they have a warehouse in Dayton, NJ servicing your area.

www.mcmastercarr.com goto "About Us" section at top for number.

Also checked online. There is alot of foodservice fabrication shops in and around Phili. Finding what you shouldnt be an issue.

www.thomasnet.com is also your friend ;)

So once I find some 3/8" stainless round bar, do I jus theat it up and hammer to bend it or what do you suggest?

So once I find some 3/8" stainless round bar, do I jus theat it up and hammer to bend it or what do you suggest?

Yes and yes

Without seeing it infront of me I dunno. Just kinda gotta wing it. ;)

Its all in being a fabricator. You're doing fine so far. Use yer imagination and common sense. The solution will present itself. Find the beginning point and end point then connect the dots. Use welding rod to kinda get an idea. It bends easily and is cheap. Just remember........try and keep it straight as much as possible. Welding rod is easy to bend......3/8" rod even when cherry red is not. Got an anvil??


Whatever you do. Make it removable!

Alright I am waiting to get the metal and then I will just do it up :)

Alright I am waiting to get the metal and then I will just do it up :)

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