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John Bauer 11-19-2002, 03:55 PM here are the timeslips for the runs at infinion raceway last week. the first run is 13.22@111mph, too much wheel speed and couldn't hear my own car over the noise of the V8 that I raced! second run is 12.81@113.59mph with the engine miss firing @ 6k, I'm pretty sure I left some speed and time there with the miss, but I'll be back next year to pick it up! I included the dyno runs of the second software version, which shows the increases in torque along with boost, also five first software version runs back to back in about a 10 - 12 min time frame
John Bauer 11-19-2002, 04:04 PM sorry having difficulty sending the dyno runs, which were saved as word documents, send me your email address if your interested in viewing the runs until I have it fixed
SilverStreak 11-19-2002, 07:49 PM Awesome stuff, John!!! :buttrock
BMWguy206 11-20-2002, 05:41 AM You did bracket racing?
John Bauer 11-21-2002, 01:52 PM Yeah, it was the last bracket racing night at Infinion. Lost the first round due to red lighting and the obvious breaking out. Why what's up?
BMWguy206 11-21-2002, 03:25 PM Just curious. I think bracket racing is very hard especially with a manual transmission but its one of the great things about drag racing were power isnt everything and where skill comes to play.
I cant always get consistent times with my E36 M3 but I can win with the SMG M3.
John Bauer 11-21-2002, 03:56 PM those timeslips were the first time taking the car to the track, I agree that drag racing is very obusive to the entire car, one reason why I choose not to for so long, I've been through a tranny or two with my integra, back when I went every wednesday, I could drive that car within .02-.06 of a second every run, that car was very consistent, even got a trophy one night, it was a Grand National GNX that messed up on the launch, how do you like the SMG, there was a kid ( 16 yrs. old ) driving one, his time were all over the place, from 14.1 to 15.5! by the way he said daddy gave him that car as well as an M5, sheesh this is the Napa Valley!
BMWguy206 11-21-2002, 06:17 PM John,
I gave up on Drag Racing for now. I went thru 3 lower differential bolts, one differential mounting bushing, one driveshaft, one differential, and I fear if I go back, I will blow the transmission.
Even if I replace the transmission I will most likely go back to the cycle of breaking parts. A guy here broke his half shafts and those are solid pieces.
The SMG is great for the bracket racing. I can always get a 0.5xx RT, consistent 2.1 60ft times and I'm within 0.1 - 0.05 from my dial in. I have the SMG on S6 mode and I shift right when the red LED lights up. I have not tried bracket racing with the automated mode.
The hard part for me is deciding to change my dial-in when temp. drop.
John Bauer 11-21-2002, 06:47 PM what were your times that you've ran with your E36? have you ever dyno'd your car? what are the other mods done to your car?
SilverStreak 11-21-2002, 06:51 PM Jon's got a few mods... :evil2
BMWguy206 11-21-2002, 06:57 PM My best time was a 13.3 @ 108mph with 75F amb. temp. and 20mph dusty headwinds. The drag strip is located just outside a desert and is 2710ft. above sea level. The sea level correction factor comes out to 12.8 @ 111mph. The track is LACR (Los Angeles County Raceway) and is in Palmdale, CA
I only have an OBD2 AA Turbo kit with an AA lighweight flywheel, AA High Performance Clutch, and a HKS Klasse exhuast.
My last dyno I made 327rwhp and 332ft.lbs at 8psi with misfires due to large gaps in the spark plug. This was done May 1st on a dynojet. Tomorrow I'm going to redyno the M3 at 9 and 10psi.
John Bauer 11-21-2002, 07:32 PM yeah that track sucks, especially the altitude,I was there for a couple battery of the imports,sounds like you had the same miss fires that I was experiencing, I didn't think that the gaps would grow like that in such a short time! I'm going to buy the SC header from RMS after I come back from the Tokyo Auto Show. They claim another 25-30hp! yeh yeh, from an expectation stand point this is way beyond what I ever expected.
96cosmosM3 11-22-2002, 01:18 AM Originally posted by Jon Caldito
My best time was a 13.3 @ 108mph with 75F amb. temp. and 20mph dusty headwinds. The drag strip is located just outside a desert and is 2710ft. above sea level. The sea level correction factor comes out to 12.8 @ 111mph. The track is LACR (Los Angeles County Raceway) and is in Palmdale, CA
I only have an OBD2 AA Turbo kit with an AA lighweight flywheel, AA High Performance Clutch, and a HKS Klasse exhuast.
My last dyno I made 327rwhp and 332ft.lbs at 8psi with misfires due to large gaps in the spark plug. This was done May 1st on a dynojet. Tomorrow I'm going to redyno the M3 at 9 and 10psi.
Do correction factors apply to turbo cars? If so, what are they?
I went on a canyon run with a vw/audi club and I could easlily leave the chipped 1.8Ts at sea level but not at 7000ft.
Also, I know a guy with a turbo integra running 11.1@125 at palmdale the very similar times at sea level (actually slower) at pomona.
BMWguy206 11-22-2002, 01:36 AM http://www.lacr.net/week.htm
Thats were I got the conversion from. I can really notice a difference though with the altitude. The only thing I noticed is that I experince a bit more lag getting off the line.
///Manuel 11-22-2002, 02:08 AM 96cosmosM3, same here, I can lose an S4 (from a roll) in 1st and 2nd but in 3rd he actually creeps up. I'm at 6,000 ft. Turbo's do really good with altitude, his boost was around 12 psi. He told us that he barely felt any difference with the altitude when our cars feel slooooow (an M3 at 6000ft dynos just as much as an 328is at sea level, that's for horses, tq is probably still higher for M3's but still... very sad).
m3boost 11-22-2002, 02:59 AM Originally posted by Jon Caldito
My best time was a 13.3 @ 108mph with 75F amb. temp. and 20mph dusty headwinds. The drag strip is located just outside a desert and is 2710ft. above sea level. The sea level correction factor comes out to 12.8 @ 111mph. The track is LACR (Los Angeles County Raceway) and is in Palmdale, CA
I only have an OBD2 AA Turbo kit with an AA lighweight flywheel, AA High Performance Clutch, and a HKS Klasse exhuast.
My last dyno I made 327rwhp and 332ft.lbs at 8psi with misfires due to large gaps in the spark plug. This was done May 1st on a dynojet. Tomorrow I'm going to redyno the M3 at 9 and 10psi.
Jon, what octane gas are you using for all your different boost levels? Is the obd II turbo able to give you 10 psi with the software of 8 psi? I want to get a turbo so bad, but if I have be mixing 100 octane with 91, then I'll just stay where I'm at. I wouldn't mine using 91 octane for low boost (8psi) and a mixture for higher boost. According to AA, their highest boost with stock compression is 9.5 psi with 93 octane. Shed some light on this, please. Thanks
SilverStreak 11-22-2002, 08:46 AM I never realized how spoiled I am to have a sea level track within 20-30 mins of my house... :D
Originally posted by SilverStreak
I never realized how spoiled I am to have a sea level track within 20-30 mins of my house... :D
I take it you are talking about Atco. isn't that one of the best tracks nationwide?? It is one of the only true sea level tracks as I understand. Nice timeslips. I am hoping for 12's on my next venture to the drag strip! :buttrock
SilverStreak 11-22-2002, 10:28 AM Yes, Atco Raceway. Not only is it sea level, they do a nice job of prepping it. E-town is also a "fast track" as it's sea level and well prepped as well. About 90 mins North of me...
Englishtown?? I forgot. We have good ol' Texas Motorplex in Ennis.
SilverStreak 11-22-2002, 11:51 AM Yeah, I'm blessed with the fact that the 2 closest tracks to me are both sea level, and managed well, good track prep, etc... :D
///Manuel 11-22-2002, 12:43 PM How about finding one under sea level? I would be interested to see timeslips from such a place.
SilverStreak 11-22-2002, 12:50 PM Well, there's Death Valley, but it's hot as hell out there! And there's New Orleans, but then the humidity is a problem...
Like I said, I'm lucky... :D
///Manuel 11-22-2002, 02:31 PM Gotta go the Death Valley in the middle of the winter around 5am. Do you know what altitude they are at? It makes me so mad when my friend tells me, you should drive your car at sea level, it has so much more power :( Anyway, we have one of the most challenging and interesting road race track over here so it kinda compensate I guess.
SilverStreak 11-22-2002, 02:37 PM Very true. I'm not sure the elevation of Death Valley, I know it's below sea level, though...
96cosmosM3 11-23-2002, 01:11 AM Originally posted by Jon Caldito
http://www.lacr.net/week.htm
Thats were I got the conversion from. I can really notice a difference though with the altitude. The only thing I noticed is that I experince a bit more lag getting off the line.
I dont belive that conversion applies to forced induction. There may be some correction, but not that much.
I had a celica alltrac(AWD/turbo) a few years back and did notice a slight difference in palmdale, but not nearly as dramatic as for a NA car.
Originally posted by Jon Caldito
I only have an OBD2 AA Turbo kit with an AA lighweight flywheel, AA High Performance Clutch, and a HKS Klasse exhuast.
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:biglaughb :laugh :laugh
I guess that beats my clutch stop and clear corners?
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