The new track wheels I wrote about in the previous thread arrived today and here the story. The wheels are 17x9 with a 48mm offset. They are a two piece wheel. The center section is welded to the rim like a forgeline. I bought them with the tire so I had a chance to weigh them and was pleasantly surprised. The wheels weighed in at exactly 18lbs each. This is damn good for a 9 inch wide wheel, so all you guys looking for a track wheel at a reasonable price or a street wheel this maybe the wheel for you. BTW I attached some pics to show that the pic on tireack does these wheels no justice. I still plan on having the centers painted black and leaving the lip polished though.

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damn, those are nice. so with a 48mm offset, would you need a spacer to clear the front struts with 245/40 hoosier's or 255/40's victoracers? if so, what size spacer?

hey quickm3 did you check out their website?
http://www.asaalloywheel.com/asawheel_e/tech_v/techn_index.htm

if they are welded, like you say then they are a 2piece forged rim.

BJO the track wheels I use now are a 17x8 with a 35mm offset and I use no spacer, so I'll probably either go with the 12 or 15mm spacer. I'm going to try both.

How much did you pay for the rims? I checked the tirerack website and they are priced at $249, what did you get em for?

Lets put it this way. under 200.oo:D

how did you get them for that price? hook up? can you share?

i have a friend that gets anything from tirerack for me really cheap. Its just for me though otherwise his job could be in jepardy.

is it possible to get a different offset closer to what stock m3's run?

yes, the normal set up is 17x8 front and 17x9 rear.

Damn.... those wheels are nice looking, and the price is RIGHT!:D

Off topic... BJO and quickm3, where's the best place to get the front spoiler lips that you two have on your cars? I like the way they look! :)

chuck: you can get them from www.bekkers.com, but they are now $120 ea side! i got mine used a few years ago for $125 for both pieces so i can't complain too much.

so I'll probably either go with the 12 or 15mm spacer

qwickm3, have you figured out what spacer to use up front yet?

No not yet. I just go the wheels back from the paint shop today, and next week i'll have the hoosiers mounted. Once they are mounted and I do some test fitting I'll determine which spacer I want to use. I'll keep you posted.

I'm more interested in hearing about the rear fitment. The fronts are just a matter of the right spacer, but the rear may be more problematic.

Originally posted by frayed
I'm more interested in hearing about the rear fitment. The fronts are just a matter of the right spacer, but the rear may be more problematic.

Ahhhh, Jeff old boy, shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe some lip massaging and lots of neg camber, but I know they will fit.
I just bought the same wheels. I am going to run 15mm front and 10mm rear spacers. The front will be perfect and the rear will be very aggressive :cool:

RHL

Originally posted by rhl
Ahhhh, Jeff old boy, shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe some lip massaging and lots of neg camber, but I know they will fit.
I just bought the same wheels. I am going to run 15mm front and 10mm rear spacers. The front will be perfect and the rear will be very aggressive :cool:

RHL

Rob,

Well actually, I have no doubt the *wheels* will fit. :stickoutt

I was just thinking that with such a high offset, big, meaty 245 Hoo Hoos (I'm assuming 245's as Quick mentioned Hoo Hoos), that you'll get some serious rubbage (is that a word?) along the inside of the wheel well, against the chassis.

So, it would seem that some 5mm spacers would be required, along with some extra work with a dead blow hammer.

For some reason, I remember reading somewhere that spacers shouldn't be used in the rear. But, when you think about it, I cannot see why they cannot be used.

Now, here's the problem I see: 245 hoo hoos may work with a 5mm rear spacer, but what about more reasonably priced and durable track tires like 255 Victos or Toyos? I'm guessing that a 5mm spacer out back will not be enough, but 10mm will be *too* much with serious fender work beyond rolling.

In a nutshell, I think that such a high offset wheel with the extra 1/2" of wheel width may conspire to give some rear fitment issues with big meats.

What do you think o' wise one? ;)

I'd say it's no problem at all. I've used two different 17x9 wheels on my car with the 255/40-17 Kumhos, and the 245/40-17 Hoosiers. One set has a 42.5mm offset, the other has a 45mm offset. Rear fenders are rolled. The 42.5mm offset wheels work just fine with either tire, without a spacer. The 45mm wheels work, but are a little close on the inside of the wheel well - I use a 5mm spacer and they fit just fine.

With the 17x9 ET48 wheels, I'd think that a 5mm spacer would make them fit perfectly. The 5mm spacer would make the wheel the equivalent of a 43mm offset, which should be just right.

Jim

Perhaps it's just me, since I have a sedan, but stock 41 mm offset wheels, 8.5" width, with 255's caused rubbing on both sides of the fenderwell. Enough to remove portions of the undercoating and polish the metal underneath, even after some wailing on everything with a dead blow hammer.

I'm with Jim, the 5mm spacer will be just perfect I think. I guess we'll know for sure by the end of next week.

Originally posted by frayed
Rob,

Well actually, I have no doubt the *wheels* will fit. :stickoutt

I was just thinking that with such a high offset, big, meaty 245 Hoo Hoos (I'm assuming 245's as Quick mentioned Hoo Hoos), that you'll get some serious rubbage (is that a word?) along the inside of the wheel well, against the chassis.



Hey guys,

I guess the tricky part is the big Hoosiers. I have run 17x9" et32mm on the rear of my car w/ 235/40/17and it was fine. I know I can also run *most* 245's on 9's with a 40mm offset. From there I am still quite sure I'll be able to fit 9's with a 38mm offset and street 245's, which is why I suggested a 10mm spacer. Maybe those massive Hooseris will be a problem. The other sad part is that 10mm is the smallest hub-centic spacer avail for our cars. The 5mm's don't leave much hub for the wheel to sit on.

I will know soon too :D

RHL

RHL,

BTW, report back on the Goodyear GS CS tires after you've had a chance to use them on your big rims. I'm guessing it'll be a while since you are likely buried under the white stuff right now.

Hey quickm3, post some pics of the wheels painted when you get a chance, please. :)

not a good shot but you get the idea

my paint guy used a new blend of paint. It actually takes weight off the wheel.;)

Originally posted by frayed
Perhaps it's just me, since I have a sedan, but stock 41 mm offset wheels, 8.5" width, with 255's caused rubbing on both sides of the fenderwell. Enough to remove portions of the undercoating and polish the metal underneath, even after some wailing on everything with a dead blow hammer.

Jeff,
I got very minor rubbing with my Kumho 255's on stock 8.5" wheels. But I got a lot of rubbing with the 9" ET 45 SSR wheels that required work with a hammer on the inside, and wooden handle on the outside. But I finally got it where they clear most of the time. With ET 48 wheels, I think JimO is right, you will need the 5mm spacer. Then just add a little more camber to clear the outer fender. :D
Chris

Originally posted by frayed
Perhaps it's just me, since I have a sedan, but stock 41 mm offset wheels, 8.5" width, with 255's caused rubbing on both sides of the fenderwell. Enough to remove portions of the undercoating and polish the metal underneath, even after some wailing on everything with a dead blow hammer.

I'd heard that the sedan has tighter clearances in the rear than the coupe. For example, the 255/40x17's, stock setup seems to be fine on the rear of the coupe, but not the sedan. Could lead credence to the MB UL.

Originally posted by Kos-motate139
I'd heard that the sedan has tighter clearances in the rear than the coupe. For example, the 255/40x17's, stock setup seems to be fine on the rear of the coupe, but not the sedan. Could lead credence to the MB UL.

Old wives tale I think. I have 2 friends with 2-door M3's with SSR 17x9 wheels just like mine. All 3 of us have 255x40 -17 Kumho tires. They all rub in the same place, and all needed some fender massaging just like my 4 door. So if there is a difference, I haven't been able to see it in practice.

Chris

Hey CPT97M3 - I am making a decision soon on wether to run 255/40/17 Khumo R's on my 17X9 SSR Integrals. I noticed you have the same wheel/tire setup and you mentioned some continuing rubbing issues. I currently have Koni SA's and H&R sports with -3, -2 degrees of camber front to rear respectivly. I am worried on the fitment with those wide tires. I am not afraid of doing the minor fender lip rolling to get clearence but will I need to do anything else????????

My only other real option is the 245/40 hoosiers, but I would like to stay away from those because I want the longer wearing Khumo's which might see a track event or 2 along with my 20+ auto-x's :evil2

Thanks for any insight you can give me.

:D Matt

Matt,

Sounds like you have the same setup I do for the most part. The 255's fit fine now in rear after I rolled the fender a little with a wooden handle in the garage. Took about 10 minitues. It also rubs on the inner liner just a little, but I tapped that with a hammer, and now, it is fine at the autox. It is possible to get minor rubbing under hard cornering, and then hitting a bump, but that doesn't hurt anything, and is not common. I am on my 3rd set of 255's already, so I have the fenders where I need them. :D
Chris

Thanks for the help, I will try the 255's for next season, only 4 months away :mad:

How come I don;t see that wheel on the tirerack website? They only sell the ar1's

I did a search...they are now made by shuk.

These are sold through Tire Rack as Shuk WR1. 17 x 9s are +48 offset. Weight is listed as 20.3 lbs. Will the BMW OW 68-mm flat centercap fit in the Shuk WR1 centerbore? The new track wheels I wrote about in the previous thread arrived today and here the story. The wheels are 17x9 with a 48mm offset. They are a two piece wheel. The center section is welded to the rim like a forgeline. I bought them with the tire so I had a chance to weigh them and was pleasantly surprised. The wheels weighed in at exactly 18lbs each. This is damn good for a 9 inch wide wheel, so all you guys looking for a track wheel at a reasonable price or a street wheel this maybe the wheel for you. BTW I attached some pics to show that the pic on tireack does these wheels no justice. I still plan on having the centers painted black and leaving the lip polished though.

those look great..

Any pics of these wheels on your car?

What was the right spacer? 10-mm fronts and 5-mm rears? 15-mm fronts and 10-mm rears? my paint guy used a new blend of paint. It actually takes weight off the wheel.;)

nice for the price ... anyone put a 245 on the 17x8? Michelin says that is the smallest rim you can use for their PS2 (talking street tires here, sorry). But I'm guessing it would fit without spacers, increased camber, fender rolling, etc.

Damion, those wheels look good man! just some info about spacers, on the Forgelines I have with a 45 offset, I run 15mm front spacers and 5mm rear spacers...and on the set with 42 offset, I'll run 12mm front spacers and 3mm rear spacers (all the wheels are 17x9 and tires are 245/40-17 hoosier S04's)...I think all of Scott's 17x9 Forgelines are 42 offset which are Forgeline's standard offset for our cars with that size wheel...

anyways hope this helps :)

How did this thread get back up. This was from Nov. of 02 :eek: sorry homey no pics.

Yes that does. Thank you! So the E36 M3 with 245/40 Hoosiers on 9 wides is happiest with low 30s offset up front, and low 40s offset rear?

Does the wider front track affect turn-in characteristics?Damion, those wheels look good man! just some info about spacers, on the Forgelines I have with a 45 offset, I run 15mm front spacers and 5mm rear spacers...and on the set with 42 offset, I'll run 12mm front spacers and 3mm rear spacers (all the wheels are 17x9 and tires are 245/40-17 hoosier S04's)...I think all of Scott's 17x9 Forgelines are 42 offset which are Forgeline's standard offset for our cars with that size wheel...

anyways hope this helps :)

Search function looking for used 17 x 9 wheels. Good info nonetheless for us M3/4 noobs (or knobs if you're feeling rude today).How did this thread get back up. This was from Nov. of 02 :eek: sorry homey no pics.

How did this thread get back up. This was from Nov. of 02 :eek: sorry homey no pics.


whoa :eek: :eek: ...man I thought this was recent lol! Now that I think about it I recall these wheels from back in da day...I was confused about why you'd wanna go from SSR comps at 18x8.5's to these now...