So the other night I was cruising on New Circle Rd. in lexington ky (for those who may know) when I ended up behind a white RSX-S. I passed him normally, nothing like a race. Well we both ended up at a light and when it turned green we accelerated normally, until I heard the grunt of his v-tec and realized he was running. I have pretty good reflexes so as soon as I heard it I went, which means he didn't get more than 1/4 cl on me before I started to pull on him. We were going up a hill and he stood no chance to win, but he kept trying. I got up to about 110 and looked back to see that I had a good 6-7 lengths on him, so I let off. Sad I had him beat before we actually got up to speed. I guess he didn't have the tq to pull on me going up the hill

clff notes: 95 E36 M3 beats 02+ RSX-S

also he had mods like intake, probably a header, definite exhaust

all i have is a TMS/Conforti chip, removed exhaust, and a K&N dropin filter

I used to rape my buddies rsx-s all the time. Put 10 carlengths on him every time we raced, until he got his turbo. Now its a different story. Hey btw, how loud is your m3 withoiut an exhaust?

Hey btw, how loud is your m3 withoiut an exhaust?

Are you kidding?? Well lets just say that when i'm cruising at around 2,500-3K rpm it's alright with the windows UP. Now with them down it's alittle noisy but it's still ok. Once I stomp the gas and get close to the rev limit, it's like a grand touring chamionship is going on around me. But I love it and don't plan to put it back on anytime soon!

nice kill , i'm suprised you heard his vtec over your growl :)

yea he might have had cams in as well. those engines with aftermarket cams will roar, but i'm not sure

so do you just run NO exhaust what so ever? there is no pipe after your cat? you should do a side exit exhaust. that would be unique, and i gaurantee you it would sound like sex.

yea he might have had cams in as well. those engines with aftermarket cams will roar, but i'm not sure


what what?? he had cams?? I dunno about all must have definitly been and '04 or older because them 05's will catch you slipping and if they have bolt ons will probably rape you sideways.. nice kill I think...

Even the older ones with bolt-on's and software will at least keep up fairly well. I think that guy only had an exhaust, and maybe an intake.

i used to have a rsx-s and im pretty sure if he had a cai , exhaust, race header and cams he would have beat u, or atleast been somewhat even. the guy prob couldnt drive. he was probably running intake with exhaust. thats it

any videos of your car without an exhaust? I wanna hear that growl :buttrock

I've seen rsxs trap 100's with intake/exhaust/race header/ and an intake manifold gasket.

So yeah..it should have been cloase(r) than what you described.

Well like I said, I'm not exactly sure what he had cause I didn't stop to talk. I have personally seen a 03 RSX-S run a 13.5 @ 102 1/4 but he had it completely stripped of interior, had an cai, header, cat-back exhaust, all the while running on drag tires. The problem is with that car is the same as almost every honda, fwd. While I may not have much my car picks up faster than stock RSX-S. I ran a 13.8 @99 BEFORE the TMS/Conforti chip. I could probably run 13.5-6 on street tires. Better than most street n/a RSX-S's

so do you just run NO exhaust what so ever? there is no pipe after your cat? you should do a side exit exhaust. that would be unique, and i gaurantee you it would sound like sex.

I run right off the stock cats, nothing else after it

I was talking to a guy who said that he ran a low-mid 14 with his RSX with only intake exhaust. It kinda suprised me so I checked up on it a little. Those things are pretty quick. Much faster than I thought. Good kill.

you guys have to consider that they were going up a hill

i actually just swapped out my diff and figured before i put the AA back on i would take it for a spin to see how loud it was. it was very loud, but i liked it. everytime i would let off the gas it gives a really nice burble sound! i wish i could have kept it like that, but alas VA law is poop!

nice kill. fella probably didn't know how to drive.

i used to have a 95 325is and raced my friend( girl) in her 03 rsx-s and destroyed her, but it wasn't cause my car was faster....it was cause she had noo clue how do drive it. i imagine that the older rsx-s could have beaten me with a good driver, but the new ones def would have.

Well like I said, I'm not exactly sure what he had cause I didn't stop to talk. I have personally seen a 03 RSX-S run a 13.5 @ 102 1/4 but he had it completely stripped of interior, had an cai, header, cat-back exhaust, all the while running on drag tires. The problem is with that car is the same as almost every honda, fwd. While I may not have much my car picks up faster than stock RSX-S. I ran a 13.8 @99 BEFORE the TMS/Conforti chip. I could probably run 13.5-6 on street tires. Better than most street n/a RSX-S's

Hmm, I dont understand how fwd hurts them much... specially from a roll. RWD interms of handling and launching is better ofcourse but from a roll it would be the same and they have advantage of not having driveshaft so less loss from the drivetrain.

Also I would really like to see you run 13.5-6 and please post video of your time slips..

RSX-S are pretty fast especially when modded. They are very light and have good gearing. A good modded RSX without a Turbo can keep up or beat a E36 M3.

i would eat a turbo rsx-s while teabagging them at the same time..........jk jk.

hey ive seen you around before, your car sounds like sex, but minus all the moaning. and the sobbing at the end.

wait the moaning is the best part!

Also I would really like to see you run 13.5-6 and please post video of your time slips..

Ditto.

Well like I said, I'm not exactly sure what he had cause I didn't stop to talk. I have personally seen a 03 RSX-S run a 13.5 @ 102 1/4 but he had it completely stripped of interior, had an cai, header, cat-back exhaust, all the while running on drag tires. The problem is with that car is the same as almost every honda, fwd. While I may not have much my car picks up faster than stock RSX-S. I ran a 13.8 @99 BEFORE the TMS/Conforti chip. I could probably run 13.5-6 on street tires. Better than most street n/a RSX-S's

I would LOVE to see an e36 m3 that runs 13.5 second 1/4 mile with just a chip.:rolleyes Sorry, but I think that is complete B.S.

Maybe a 13.7. If you think that a chip is going to help your car that much, you are in for a big disappointment. A chip on a BMW isn't like a chip on an LSx motor - it really doesn't add more power, just makes the engine more responsive, etc., but even I am inclined to think that the difference felt with just a chip is more mental than reality.

I would LOVE to see an e36 m3 that runs 13.5 second 1/4 mile with just a chip.:rolleyes Sorry, but I think that is complete B.S.

Maybe a 13.7. If you think that a chip is going to help your car that much, you are in for a big disappointment. A chip on a BMW isn't like a chip on an LSx motor - it really doesn't add more power, just makes the engine more responsive, etc., but even I am inclined to think that the difference felt with just a chip is more mental than reality.


I think that even a 13.7 would be pushing it... Maybe with a pro driving... :rolleyes I would expect it to much closer to 14.

I think that even a 13.7 would be pushing it... Maybe with a pro driving... :rolleyes I would expect it to much closer to 14.

Yeah that was a typo, I meant 13.8. Even at that, still doesn't seem right.

Nice kill :D

all of you guys are forgetting that I said I ran a 13.8 BEFORE the chip, again I say 13.88 to be EXACT and i have the time slip to prove it if anyone wants to see it. I don't think that 13.6-7 is unreasonable

hey ive seen you around before, your car sounds like sex, but minus all the moaning. and the sobbing at the end.

where are you from?? what part of kentucky??

im here in lex. runing around in a blacked out 540 e34 right now.

wow are you on lexistreets or ckydubs?

Hmm, I dont understand how fwd hurts them much... specially from a roll. RWD interms of handling and launching is better ofcourse but from a roll it would be the same and they have advantage of not having driveshaft so less loss from the drivetrain.

Also I would really like to see you run 13.5-6 and please post video of your time slips..

actually i would think that FWD would always have more loss in drivetrain just because of the angels and stuff it has to make, yes the drive shaft is heavy, but its also directly straight off the motor, unless its like a high end car like a porsche, having the engine and drive wheels in the same location never has good transfer.

nah just bimmer forums havent made it over there yet

ah well you should. we should meet up somewhere.

actually i would think that FWD would always have more loss in drivetrain just because of the angels and stuff it has to make, yes the drive shaft is heavy, but its also directly straight off the motor, unless its like a high end car like a porsche, having the engine and drive wheels in the same location never has good transfer.

I agree, but i'm not sure so i can't argue with him.

actually i would think that FWD would always have more loss in drivetrain just because of the angels and stuff it has to make, yes the drive shaft is heavy, but its also directly straight off the motor, unless its like a high end car like a porsche, having the engine and drive wheels in the same location never has good transfer.


You ever notice their engine sits sideways unlike ours? drive-shaft= more drivetrain loss it makes sense. Weight transfer really has no effect in a roll, it would in handling and from a launch thought i mentioned that but anyhow i would love to see his car run 13.5-6*cough* *cough* 13.6-7 even.

You ever notice their engine sits sideways unlike ours? drive-shaft= more drivetrain loss it makes sense. Weight transfer really has no effect in a roll, it would in handling and from a launch thought i mentioned that but anyhow i would love to see his car run 13.5-6*cough* *cough* 13.6-7 even.

If I ran a 13.8 without the chip, then I think that I can manage a 13.7 with it

I agree, but i'm not sure so i can't argue with him.
actually i would think that FWD would always have more loss in
drivetrain just because of the angels and stuff it has to make, yes the drive shaft is heavy, but its also directly straight off the motor, unless its like a high end car like a porsche, having the engine and drive wheels in the same location never has good transfer.

WOW, just WOW:confused :confused :confused

Tranverse mounted motors experience less drivetrain loss because they are mounted the same direction as the axles and the power doesn't have to go through a power robbing hypoid gear. Our cars, on the other hand, need to change the direction of power in the differential to go to the axles...

I've witnessed a Type-S with hondata cams, kpro, full exhaust, intake ect. take a turbo'd m3 that dyno'd 28X to the ground. Strangely the m3 got off the line a LOT slower than the Acura... That same guy took me by about 2 cars. After I lost the guy told me that he ran mid 13's, so I didn't feel too bad.

WOW, just WOW:confused :confused :confused

Tranverse mounted motors experience less drivetrain loss because they are mounted the same direction as the axes and the power doesn't have to go through a power robbing hypoid gear. Our cars on the other hand need to change the direction of power in the differential to go to the axles...

I've witnessed a Type-S with hondata cams, kpro, full exhaust, intake ect. take a turbo'd m3 that dyno'd 28X to the ground. Strangely the m3 got off the line a LOT slower than the Acura... That same guy took me by about 2 cars. After I lost the guy told me that he ran mid 13's, so I didn't feel too bad.


I would think that a turbo M3 with 280 something hp to the ground would be better than mid 13's... ? Unless he just wasn't running right.

My friend in the M3 has having major problems launching his car, he was running 235's and the street was wet as well. But even with the power advantage he couldn't catch up with the RSX...
I would think that a turbo M3 with 280 something hp to the ground would be better than mid 13's... ? Unless he just wasn't running right.

nice kill.
I keep telling my friend with his '06 type-s that he can beat me, he doesnt seem to think so after riding in my car;)

cant wait till he starts modding;)

I used to rape my buddies rsx-s all the time.
I hope you waited till the tailpipe cooled down:eek:

WOW, just WOW:confused :confused :confused

Tranverse mounted motors experience less drivetrain loss because they are mounted the same direction as the axles and the power doesn't have to go through a power robbing hypoid gear. Our cars, on the other hand, need to change the direction of power in the differential to go to the axles...

I've witnessed a Type-S with hondata cams, kpro, full exhaust, intake ect. take a turbo'd m3 that dyno'd 28X to the ground. Strangely the m3 got off the line a LOT slower than the Acura... That same guy took me by about 2 cars. After I lost the guy told me that he ran mid 13's, so I didn't feel too bad.

I thought that a turbo m3 could do better than 28X hp. what's he running, like 4psi or something?

I used to drive an 04 type-s. I gotta say it's a fun ride and faster than most people give it credit for but cold air intake, exhaust, race header(cat delete), and an ecu reflash will put it in the mid to low 14s. After those basic bolt-ons though, making power gets pretty pricey. Turbo is definately the way to go IMO, they hadle it quite nicely. The power they do gain from just bolt ons is pretty nice though, considering its a 2 liter N/A motor. Also if you heard VTEC he definately had intake because the change over is almost imprecebtible on the stock K-series engines.

Considering he's got an Aerodyne variable vein turbo kit from everyone's favorite tuner, Mechtech, it's very impressive.
I thought that a turbo m3 could do better than 28X hp. what's he running, like 4psi or something?

I thought that a turbo m3 could do better than 28X hp. what's he running, like 4psi or something?

6.5psi dynos about 285whp. It takes about 8psi to make 300.
13.88 at 99mph is very nice for a stock car. I agree, though, that I wouldnt expect any better with chip. Maybe a 13.87 :D .

6.5psi dynos about 285whp. It takes about 8psi to make 300.
13.88 at 99mph is very nice for a stock car. I agree, though, that I wouldnt expect any better with chip. Maybe a 13.87 :D .

AHAHAH I have to laugh at that:stickoutt I'll admit that was funny but in all seriousness, it should atleast get me to 13.82 ATLEAST:buttrock Also about the psi deal, wouldn't most run the in the 7.5-8 psi range?? Especially if the kit is good for it?

AHAHAH I have to laugh at that:stickoutt I'll admit that was funny but in all seriousness, it should atleast get me to 13.82 ATLEAST:buttrock Also about the psi deal, wouldn't most run the in the 7.5-8 psi range?? Especially if the kit is good for it?

Depends on the kit. I have heard of a number of Dinan kits between 6.5 and 7.5 psi. I think the RMS kit is probably about 8 psi, and the ERT kit is only around 5.5-6 psi, but they often combine it with Schrick cams.

Oh

I run right off the stock cats, nothing else after it

I've heard from other people on bfc that that can be bad for your car, because all the soot and debris exiting your cats will build up under the car and over time can lead to corrosion. Just someting you might want to consider taking a look at.:)

he's right, plus those fumes and crap will seep up into your cockpit while you sit in a traffic jam, slowly but surely killing you.

a friend of mine and i ripped the exhaust off his '88 GMC suburban, it was running a 350 v8 so it sounded wicked, but you couldn't ride in it with the windows up for all the exhaust in the cabin, so we bought a 45 degree bend and shot it out the side, chromed tipped it and we were good to go...bet you aint never seen a 88 burban like that.

my point beaing a m3 with a side exhaust would be sexy with a capitol s.

i'd love to do the side-exit exhaust but without cutting into the car. i don't have the money for a rollcage to support it once i hack it, but i've also never seen a side-exit without cutting, atleast on the M3

i'd love to do the side-exit exhaust but without cutting into the car. i don't have the money for a rollcage to support it once i hack it, but i've also never seen a side-exit without cutting, atleast on the M3
There's no way you'd be able to put a side exhaust without cutting the skirt. The 88 burban would be easy.. its got like 2' of ground clearance, compared to the 2" on the M3.... you could do it if you enjoy sparks.