View Full Version : Chrysler 300C SRT-8(420hp V8 6.1) VS e36 M3
Naw T 3 07-11-2006, 01:55 PM So i work at a local Dodge/Chrysler dealership. Decided to take a Black 300C SRT-8 for a test drive since we can(product knowledge). SRT8 300C has 420horses, 6.1 V8. The car is a B E A S T on autostick and without it. I pull up to a redlight and see a e36 M3. I live local and never seen this one before. Avus blue, carbon fiber hood/trunk, rims, suspension, etc. I personally own a 325i. I give the guy a thumbs up, he REVS at me. He tells me he will own the 300c. So we agree torun em'.
Light turns green, SRT8 on autostick, we take off, 300C SRT8 launches and thats about it. After first gear, it was a walk as i kept gaining and gaining. At the next light, he says "damn, those mothafukks got some balls". Now M3's are fast, but these new 300C SRT8's are a BEAST. Everyone needs to test drive one. They pull real hard. Dont get fooled by the fact that it might be heavy. The car also handles like a dream with its sports tuned suspension. They are both gorgeous and have power. Nice bang for the buck.
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Cliffnote- 2006 Chrysler 300C SRT8 owns e36 M3
I dont have too many kill stories so hopefully this one was worth the read. LOL. My 325i dailyis SLOW!
andrew325ci 07-11-2006, 02:01 PM nice drive, glad I'm not buying that SRT-8 :D
fronton 07-11-2006, 02:03 PM nice kill. Was the 300C the AWD version?
Naw T 3 07-11-2006, 02:13 PM nice kill. Was the 300C the AWD version?
300C SRT-8 with the 6.1 L 420 horses. Car runs and handles like a dream.
Naw T 3 07-11-2006, 02:14 PM nice drive, glad I'm not buying that SRT-8 :D
agreed. All deaalership workers test drive the cars for fun. So always demand a BRAND NEW ONE! lol
fronton 07-11-2006, 02:15 PM I know its the 420 HP 6.1 litre, but I beleive they make an AWD version as well as a RWD version using that engine.
Brillant Bimmer 07-11-2006, 02:44 PM I know its the 420 HP 6.1 litre, but I beleive they make an AWD version as well as a RWD version using that engine.
i dont think the awd version comes with the big motor
fronton 07-11-2006, 02:52 PM oh ok, I just checked, your right. That would be sweet though...
e30s50bizzle 07-11-2006, 02:54 PM They do make the 300C Hemi in AWD but not sure about the juiced up srt-8 one
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fronton 07-11-2006, 02:55 PM yea, its not the SRT-8 one, its the 5.7 hemi I think.
slickav 07-11-2006, 03:05 PM Was that garret? :dunno
Sounds like his M3, except he's in riverside.
NOCTURNAL 07-11-2006, 03:32 PM You're a lucky man!
Nice kill.
Dubbedown 07-11-2006, 03:38 PM nice kill. Was the 300C the AWD version?
srt doesn't come in awd, only rwd.
i believe awd is only for the touring edition.
2000Z3M 07-11-2006, 03:52 PM nice kill.
sogood 07-11-2006, 04:01 PM The e36 m3 is also 11 years old.
phantom3 07-11-2006, 04:25 PM how many cars did you pull ? what speeds did you get up too?
they are beastly ... wow , good kill
OMGWTFBODY 07-11-2006, 04:47 PM The e36 m3 is also 11 years old.
Yet... the driver has modded his, and instigated the race after a compliment.
Your comment... irrelevant.
M3AVUS 07-11-2006, 05:05 PM thats why bimmers are weak. i think i am going to find a dodge forum and trade my car for power and luxury of a srt motor'd car.
M3AVUS 07-11-2006, 05:06 PM lol...good kill but very obvious
e30s50bizzle 07-11-2006, 05:19 PM <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>2006</TD><TD>Dodge</TD><TD>Magnum SRT-8</TD><TD>5.1</TD><TD>13.60</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
This is practically the same car stats i dont see anything crazzy cept for the fact i know people who have run 13.7 at the track in e36 m3's
Dinan S3 07-11-2006, 05:20 PM they quote 13's but they actually run into the mid 12's
e30s50bizzle 07-11-2006, 05:33 PM Took down a srt-8 charger from 3rd gear roll enough for him to gawk i dont think they are running mid 12's
CasperIV 07-11-2006, 05:45 PM I have never seen a stock SRT Charger or 300 breaking into the 12's at the track..... But nice kill. Of course there's only so much that can be said with a 3.0 I6 vs a 6.1 V8 with a decade of technology upgrades.
roadwarrior687 07-11-2006, 05:54 PM I was out at LACR (horrible 1/4 mile track in Palmdale) and there was a SRT8 300C there. He was running very high 14's (14.7-14.9) at first. Then got his times to low 14's (14.1-14.4). My best run was 14.1 to high of 14.5. It was really hot and dusty that night and LACR is 3000 feet above sea level.
I ran him once heads up and won the race. I had a much better reaction time, his e.t. was actually .2 secs faster than me on that run. My car is an '02 540i with 6psi VF blower.
gti1689 07-11-2006, 06:11 PM i have a video on my comp. of a stock srt-8 running a 12.8 @ 110. this is ovbiously not the norm, but i say they run anywhere from 13.2-13.6 on average. nice race!!!
My car is an '02 540i with 6psi VF blower.
sweet, this makes sense. from what i hear, LACR isn't the best track. lack of traction (windy conditions) and high altitude def. take a bite out of performance.
BMWALDO 07-11-2006, 06:38 PM I pull up to a redlight and see a e36 M3. I live local and never seen this one before. Avus blue, carbon fiber hood/trunk, rims, suspension, etc.
It look like this?:
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/6761/vallejo200511711wn.jpg
Naw T 3 07-11-2006, 11:28 PM No. The front end actually had a Maxvelocity lip painted body color(Avus).
We hit, or i hit from what i saw 100 before i pulled off.( not my car, dont want to get caught up)
The M3 was atleast 4-5 cars behind. Definitly looked like 2bus lengths to me, but then again, i wasnt paying "extreme" attention to the length. Since everyone gets on eveyrones ass about this. Right off the line the SRT8 jumped a car or two lengths ahead easily.
Sure the M3 is 11 years old, but it looked to be hevaily modded. The 300C SRT8 i wa sin was STOCK. Imagine with some mods.
For the price tag, somewhere around $36G's with employee pricing, the 300C SRT8 is the greatest shit out. Looks good, is fast, handles like a dream.
Im gonna have fun driving these cars EVERYDAY. The MAGNUM SRT8 is also a beast.
The SRT6 Crossfire is "alright".
The SRT10 Ram is OVERRATED with that Viper engine. The truck is HEAVY.
Ill post everytime i get a kill. And if ANYONE wants to die, come to AUTOMALL PRKWY and i'll run you. LOL :) :) :)
Naw T 3 07-11-2006, 11:30 PM I ALSO WANTED TO ADD
The SRT8 only had 17miles on it. It hasnt even been BROKE into yet.
Deuuuce 07-12-2006, 01:28 AM <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>2006</TD><TD>Dodge</TD><TD>Magnum SRT-8</TD><TD>5.1</TD><TD>13.60</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
This is practically the same car stats i dont see anything crazzy cept for the fact i know people who have run 13.7 at the track in e36 m3's
Some clarification is needed....
The 300C, Charger and Magnum SRT-8s 425hp, the Jeep SRT-8 is 420hp.
The SRT-8 sedans are NOT offered in AWD.
The Magnum is listed as being 100lbs heavier than the sedans.
First gear WOT is NOT recommended during the 1st 300 miles of break-in. However, WOT in other gears IS recommended with the SRT-8.
The sedans and jeep run low 13s under normal conditions and trap at 108-110mph. There are documented cases of running 12s under ideal conditions and one guy ran a 12.56 @ 111.5mph with a 1.8 60ft on a cold, crisp day...
So it is to be expected. I posted a kill of an E46 SMG Convertible earlier.
coolcarlski 07-12-2006, 06:53 AM The SRT6 Crossfire is "alright".
:confused The SRT-6 is a low 13 sec monster with mods mid to high 12's!And you say it's "alright"!Are you sure it was not a reg crossfire?:confused
stifler 07-12-2006, 07:02 AM agreed. All deaalership workers test drive the cars for fun. So always demand a BRAND NEW ONE! lol
Sad, but true. I still wouldn't mind having a C SRT8 in the stable...
:confused The SRT-6 is a low 13 sec monster with mods mid to high 12's!And you say it's "alright"!Are you sure it was not a reg crossfire?:confused
Perhaps it is that quick, but it's still damn ugly.:D
m3chaser 07-12-2006, 09:00 AM oh man i think the srt-8s look good. i would still rather my M3 cause it just fits me better. besides i will eat your srt-8 off the line with my 3.91lsd gearing.....jk jk. i might be able to put up a good fight though.
that car looks like it could be a mafia car....especially in black!
nice kill, but it is to be expected. seems like a much fairer race would be against an E39 M5 or the new M5.
Deuuuce 07-13-2006, 02:01 AM oh man i think the srt-8s look good. i would still rather my M3 cause it just fits me better. besides i will eat your srt-8 off the line with my 3.91lsd gearing.....jk jk. i might be able to put up a good fight though.
that car looks like it could be a mafia car....especially in black!
nice kill, but it is to be expected. seems like a much fairer race would be against an E39 M5 or the new M5.
Do you get a pretty good launch w/ those gears? Do you run wider tires or DRs in the back?
Mahalaleel 07-13-2006, 02:07 AM So i work at a local Dodge/Chrysler dealership. Decided to take a Black 300C SRT-8 for a test drive since we can(product knowledge). SRT8 300C has 420horses, 6.1 V8. The car is a B E A S T on autostick and without it. I pull up to a redlight and see a e36 M3. I live local and never seen this one before. Avus blue, carbon fiber hood/trunk, rims, suspension, etc. I personally own a 325i. I give the guy a thumbs up, he REVS at me. He tells me he will own the 300c. So we agree torun em'.
Light turns green, SRT8 on autostick, we take off, 300C SRT8 launches and thats about it. After first gear, it was a walk as i kept gaining and gaining. At the next light, he says "damn, those mothafukks got some balls". Now M3's are fast, but these new 300C SRT8's are a BEAST. Everyone needs to test drive one. They pull real hard. Dont get fooled by the fact that it might be heavy. The car also handles like a dream with its sports tuned suspension. They are both gorgeous and have power. Nice bang for the buck.
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Cliffnote- 2006 Chrysler 300C SRT8 owns e36 M3
I dont have too many kill stories so hopefully this one was worth the read. LOL. My 325i dailyis SLOW!
Nice Ad! err...kill...
M3AVUS 07-13-2006, 02:08 AM This car does not handle like a dream. I am sorry I have driven these things and it may be fast but does not handle like a dream. A E38 7 series handles better than it. I think it's just the power, while coasting through turns or coming out of turns you can mash on it to get back to speed. I would compare it to a speedboat.
GoBLue 07-13-2006, 08:55 AM This car does not handle like a dream. I am sorry I have driven these things and it may be fast but does not handle like a dream. A E38 7 series handles better than it. I think it's just the power, while coasting through turns or coming out of turns you can mash on it to get back to speed. I would compare it to a speedboat.
Ok.:rolleyes I've been to two SRT Track Experience events, where the SRT fleet is basically thrown around a road course, auto-x, etc. I've been to Beaverun and Lime Rock, where we are pushing the Charger-8, 300-8 and SRT-6's, and let me tell you the 300 in this case, for a 4000 lb car handles damn good. Hell one of the instructors took me out in a stock 300-8 and DRIFTED the entire Beaverun track, the car is very balanced. Hell the 300-8 pulls 0.90 on the skidpad. So I'm not exactly sure what you drove, or where you drove it, but your comparison to a "speedboat" or an E38 is laughable.
Turbofans 07-13-2006, 10:28 AM The e36 m3 is also 11 years old.
Back in 95', 240 Hp was a good number. The automaker "hoursepower race" really started to kick in, in the mid to late 90's. Now, you aint nothin unless you got 400hp. I remember back in the 80's when the Mustang GT was the hot american car and it only had 215hp (stock) and everyone thought it was fast. With all these new american cars coming out with big Hp, the "bang for the buck" factor is really starting to get at me. My next ride, I will probably go american with at least 400 Hp. A new BMW with compramable power going to cost nearly double the price of american.
GreenBeem93 07-13-2006, 10:47 AM American cars FTL
CasperIV 07-13-2006, 11:29 AM Ok, first of all, drifting is a technique; you don't need a ton of power, as illustrated by the AE86's running around out there. Second, a skid pad isn't a good demonstration of true handling as the energy of the car never changes direction. A heavy car will always give fair skid pad g's simply because once you have entered the circle, only the acceleration force causing the energy to increase or decrease, however, if you were to take a hard turn in the other direction you would see the tires let go much sooner then with a lighter car simply because of inertia. Also, it's nice to know what tires you were on.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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I agree that the SRT8 packages make a lot of power, but balanced they are not. They have a luxury suspension that causes too much weight transfer. At Sema we played with some, and working with the police package chargers I must say that they are nice on open roads and cruising, but they won't be running down a Japanese or German car in the corners in the near future without stiffer suspension.
BLKM3 07-13-2006, 12:47 PM Haha, pick on someone your own size. E55 or M5 will eat the SRT-8
Shodanusmc 07-13-2006, 07:58 PM Haha, pick on someone your own size. E55 or M5 will eat the SRT-8
I have an E55 and will soon have an 07 GC SRT-8. Neither the E55 or an M5 will eat a GC SRT-8 with the slightest hint of ground moisture. True, it is not as fast in the 1/4 miles as either of them, then again, it does not cost 85+ K to drive out of the showroom either. The 40K difference will buy several nice performance options.....and once they get a Tuner and a Supercharger, watch out. JMHO
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I agree that the SRT8 packages make a lot of power, but balanced they are not. They have a luxury suspension that causes too much weight transfer. At Sema we played with some, and working with the police package chargers I must say that they are nice on open roads and cruising, but they won't be running down a Japanese or German car in the corners in the near future without stiffer suspension.
Guys, you're way off here. You need to understand the difference between the R/T and the SRT-8. The biggest difference isn't the power, it's the suspension. The SRT-8 handles LIKE or AS GOOD AS the new M5.
Car & Driver wrote, "The basic test numbers were impressive, but the Charger’s agility on the Grattan road circuit was truly revelatory. Even though we experienced brake-fade problems during the full-tilt process, we were able to herd the bad-boy Dodge around the track in 1:32.65, just 0.1 second behind the CLS55 Benz and almost a full second quicker than the Cadillac STS-V. "
That was only 1.5 sec. behind the M5, a MUCH quicker, deep 12sec car. The previous gen. E-Class suspension with Bilsteins, Sachs Nivomats, Brembos and 20" F1s make it a stunning handler for 4160lbs......
andrew325ci 07-14-2006, 07:49 AM with the massive amounts of horsepower and very close handling ability of most cars, I believe the issue for which cars people like should be qualitative
just the way the car feels to you should be why you buy it, most of us aren't good enough drivers for the car to make a difference (higher end similar cars)
Naw T 3 07-15-2006, 02:48 AM all in all. For the price tag of close to $36k here in Cali for an SRT8 300C with employee pricing.....it provides.....Looks......speed......handling and a good bang for your buck. I personally love them.......and each to his own.
Naw T 3 07-15-2006, 02:50 AM Guys, you're way off here. You need to understand the difference between the R/T and the SRT-8. The biggest difference isn't the power, it's the suspension. The SRT-8 handles LIKE or AS GOOD AS the new M5.
This person knows what they are talking about. The SRT-8 suspension is COMPLETELY different from the R/T. Go drive an SRT8 300-C and find out for yourself.
WilliamPu2003 07-15-2006, 03:53 PM sorry hate to burst your bubble, but the E36 M3 is not fast...
unless your car is low 13s or better, it is not "fast".
ohnoes 07-15-2006, 05:25 PM Are you supposed to completely mash and race a brand new car, not to mention one that doesn't belong to you, let alone one that belongs to your employer?!?!
Some "product knowledge." :rolleyes
(Still, cool job. :D)
Deuuuce 07-15-2006, 09:34 PM Are you supposed to completely mash and race a brand new car, not to mention one that doesn't belong to you, let alone one that belongs to your employer?!?!
Some "product knowledge." :rolleyes
(Still, cool job. :D)
WOT recommended the first 300 miles except in 1st gear per the owners manual... !!!
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