View Full Version : E36 M3 vs Evo 8 MR
WTFPENGUIN 07-09-2006, 05:02 AM First off I'd like to say I hate street racing, I think it's stupid and dangerous, and a waste of gas. I've only raced maybe 3 other cars (if that) in the 2 years I've owned the car. This was just one of those times
Umm not much to say, we raced from 35mph to 80. He had 2 girls in the car less than 100lbs each and an empty tank of gas. I think he is stock, lots of gauges though so maybe a boost increaser though. I have Dinan Intake and Exhaust full tank of gas, and jack stands, a full tool set and some extra parts in my trunk. (just in case you know?)
So he honks three times and gets a slight jump, I then pull ahead like half a carlength, and I was stupid to shift at 6000rpm, and he was pulling a little after 65 after I shifted into 3rd.
At 80 I had 1/4 CL on him.
WTFZOO 07-09-2006, 05:04 AM Sweet
coolcarlski 07-09-2006, 07:19 AM So he honks three times and gets a slight jump, I then pull ahead like half a carlength, and I was stupid to shift at 6000rpm, and he was pulling a little after 65 after I shifted into 3rd.
At 80 I had 1/4 CL on him.Hmmmmm!Interesting.An EVO MR at that!
Without the two girls in his car he should have had you by at least 2 cars thru 4th gear.Depending on the driver of course. I guess we may have to give you the benefit of the doubt since you were there.But grudgingly so!
I know the 06 STi that had exhaust which I raced three times last week in my 99M3(Dinan SW,Full SS exhaust) got my by one car each and every time all the way thru 4rd gear from a 1st gear roll.I could not catch him and he could not pull more than that 1-11/2 car lead.
The EVO MR is even a tad faster.
BMWFanatic 07-09-2006, 07:42 AM nice kill man
snikwad 07-09-2006, 07:48 AM damn, thats nice to know... good kill.
MTech 07-09-2006, 08:37 AM i would gladly take the loss with 2 girls in my car!
WTFPENGUIN 07-09-2006, 06:57 PM i would gladly take the loss with 2 girls in my car!
Well after the race they hoped into my car.:D
jk jk
Oh and I raced a Dinan S/C M3 awhile ago 0-100 and beat him by CL.
f ll th bl nks 07-09-2006, 07:03 PM Well after the race they hoped into my car.:D
jk jk
Oh and I raced a Dinan S/C M3 awhile ago 0-100 and beat him by CL.
Somethings just aren't adding up here.
coldblooded 328 07-09-2006, 07:14 PM good kill on the evo, but i dont understand how u would beat a sc m3, unless you have a lot of mods which arent listed.
trBo328iKevo 07-09-2006, 08:10 PM Well after the race they hoped into my car.:D
jk jk
Oh and I raced a Dinan S/C M3 awhile ago 0-100 and beat him by CL.
So your telling me you run mid-low 13s with just intake & exhaust lol, yeah right, if you did then that m3 must be running hella crappy...Also Evo @ 276hp @ 286lbs of torque + AWD turbo which i hardly doubt will happen unless driver is just really horrible lol.
WTFPENGUIN 07-09-2006, 08:23 PM So your telling me you run mid-low 13s with just intake & exhaust lol, yeah right, if you did then that m3 must be running hella crappy...Also Evo @ 276hp @ 286lbs of torque + AWD turbo which i hardly doubt will happen unless driver is just really horrible lol.
The evo and I raced from a roll, not much driving skill required other than shifting into 3rd, and pushing the gas down. He's raced 350z put a car and half on them. Other e36 m3s put a CL on them.
The E36 M3 S/C didn't feel fast at all when I drove it, so I dunno if there was something wrong with it.
The E36 M3 S/C didn't feel fast at all when I drove it, so I dunno if there was something wrong with it.
last time I checked superchargers make cars faster, not slower.
Havent you heard of the reverse supercharger, it sucks air out of the engine.
But seriously..
Maybe it had a boost leak, or crappy gas so it pinged causing the ecu to severly retard the timing?
eurocar328 07-10-2006, 12:28 AM So your telling me you run mid-low 13s with just intake & exhaust lol, yeah right, if you did then that m3 must be running hella crappy...Also Evo @ 276hp @ 286lbs of torque + AWD turbo which i hardly doubt will happen unless driver is just really horrible lol.
True, had it been from a dig. When your in an AWD car and racing a RWd car from a roll, guess who has the advantage?? THe rwd, because he has to only power 2 wheels and not 4. Plus the evo is like 3300 lbs w/o a driver....so all 3 of them equals what 350 400 more lbs?? There is a big difference in weight.
Evo's are quick little suckers, but they lose their strongpoint when racing from a roll.
Emagdnim082 07-10-2006, 12:40 AM Not to take away from your kill, but this weekend I jhad my buddies new 06 MR evo IX and its bone stock. My other buddy has a 99 m3 with full hartge exhaust (manifold back) a chip (i forget) and some crazy ass carbon fiber intake. I made his car look like it was standing still. Do you have more mods than him?
WTFPENGUIN 07-10-2006, 03:44 AM Not to take away from your kill, but this weekend I jhad my buddies new 06 MR evo IX and its bone stock. My other buddy has a 99 m3 with full hartge exhaust (manifold back) a chip (i forget) and some crazy ass carbon fiber intake. I made his car look like it was standing still. Do you have more mods than him?
nope, dinan intake, and dinan exhaust for engine mods
not to mention up to date mantience on everything and a very strong engine.
agmobb 07-10-2006, 03:56 AM nope, dinan intake, and dinan exhaust for engine mods
not to mention up to date mantience on everything and a very strong engine.
A very strong engine indeed. You must have a factory freak with an extra 50hp or so than a reg e36 m3 huh? Or maybe the people you race normally get around by wheelchair+helmet. Seriously though, I would say you beat the drivers but like you said..from a roll theres not a whole lot to screw up. My only experience with an evo has been in my Cobra, the same cobra that spanked my e36 m3(intake,exhaust) over and over. The evo was faster than the cobra.
cliff notes: not probable but if its true gj.
a4rings 07-10-2006, 05:08 AM yea both lavam3 and the owner of the evo are close friends of mine and it is true that the m3 beat the evo but it is very confusing to me. The evo guys previouse car was a 99 alpine m3 with AA Intake and exhaust and it beat lavam3's m3(before dinan intake and exhaust). And at the same time our other friend would rape the alpine m3 with his 04 mach one with boltons but now the evo and the MACH are pretty close in acceleration so i dont see how LAVAS m3 beat the evo.
Also earlier that evening the stock evo mr (3 people including driver) beat an 05 intake and exhaust sti (2 people including driver) and the evo owner is a very good driver so its not a "you beat the driver" type of deal
coolcarlski 07-10-2006, 06:48 AM Havent you heard of the reverse supercharger, it sucks air out of the engine.
But seriously..
Maybe it had a boost leak, or crappy gas so it pinged causing the ecu to severly retard the timing?LOL!:lol
Not to take away from your kill, but this weekend I jhad my buddies new 06 MR evo IX and its bone stock. My other buddy has a 99 m3 with full hartge exhaust (manifold back) a chip (i forget) and some crazy ass carbon fiber intake. I made his car look like it was standing still. Do you have more mods than him?My friends 06 STi did the same exact thing to my 99M3! I could not catch him! So roll Shmoll! The only way a N/A M3 will beat a lightly modded STI or EVO with stck booost on a roll is with Full exaust,SW and Schrick cams,or even better a Supercharger.Then and only then will it be capable to beat the EVO MR or STI on a roll.I cannot speak on behalf of the WRX but if it's heavily modded.Same results.
I'm ready to throw the flag people!
True, had it been from a dig. When your in an AWD car and racing a RWd car from a roll, guess who has the advantage?? THe rwd, because he has to only power 2 wheels and not 4. Plus the evo is like 3300 lbs w/o a driver....so all 3 of them equals what 350 400 more lbs?? There is a big difference in weight.
Evo's are quick little suckers, but they lose their strongpoint when racing from a roll.please only speak what u know if you've experienced it.I could not beat my friends STi from a roll.He has exhaust and filter and I have Dinan SW and full SS exhaust from SS headers,midpipe to cat-back!
dmundy 07-10-2006, 10:36 AM ;) The Evo started in 3rd gear!
I have a 9, and it is pretty quick.
e30s50bizzle 07-11-2006, 12:28 PM I beat an Evo MR last month just by a fender length he said he had chip and exhaust. I still want to race an STi and i probably will this thursday.
ken_vs_ryu 07-11-2006, 12:38 PM i've learned nothing here.
hwl328is 07-11-2006, 12:38 PM nope, dinan intake, and dinan exhaust for engine mods
not to mention up to date mantience on everything and a very strong engine.
It is amazing what proper care for an engine will do - you treat the engine and it treats you.
With that said, with no particular malice or hate towards you, but it seems as if when an e36 m3 is questioned, said owner replies with having a "particularly strong engine". My complaint is that every e36 m3 on this board has a "factory freak engine".:rolleyes Without numbers, anyone saying they have a strong engine is meaningless and has no bearing.
Uh oh...
The E36 M3 is the becoming the new 318?
j/k I had to :D
trBo328iKevo 07-11-2006, 02:17 PM I beat an Evo MR last month just by a fender length he said he had chip and exhaust. I still want to race an STi and i probably will this thursday.
I'm sure you can beat a Evo, STi, Cobra mustang with your setup bro...I remember seeing that vid of you against that E46 m3 & it was a awesome car & vid you got there...well doing s50 m3 motor swap in a e30 shell is a lot faster than stock e36 m3.
trBo328iKevo 07-11-2006, 02:18 PM I beat an Evo MR last month just by a fender length he said he had chip and exhaust. I still want to race an STi and i probably will this thursday.
Hey get a vid of you blowing away a Srt-4 neon & post it on here since there is probably like 100 srt-4 guys on this messageboard.
e30s50bizzle 07-11-2006, 02:34 PM Hey get a vid of you blowing away a Srt-4 neon & post it on here since there is probably like 100 srt-4 guys on this messageboard.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
I raced one before in my E36 m3 and pulled hard but he was stock . I also raced a mopar stage 2.5 and he pulled 5 good car lengths from 50-120 i figure that same car could take my e30 for 1.5 cars. I havent found any modded ones lately.
coolcarlski 07-11-2006, 02:35 PM I beat an Evo MR last month just by a fender length he said he had chip and exhaust. I still want to race an STi and i probably will this thursday.MODS?
e30s50bizzle 07-11-2006, 03:05 PM The race was a 2nd gear roll 50 to about 90mph
my mods: ebay chip ,custom intake
WTFPENGUIN 08-02-2006, 04:07 AM we raced again 15-70mph and I pulled 1/2cl
coolcarlski 08-05-2006, 09:37 AM The race was a 2nd gear roll 50 to about 90mph
my mods: ebay chip ,custom intake:nonoThose are the only mods and That's a race?(EVO MR):confused
gti1689 08-05-2006, 09:52 AM we raced again 15-70mph and I pulled 1/2cl
how? there's an e46 m3 vs. evo mr thread and the evo dominated. it was slightly modded, but how is the speed difference going to change from that of an e36 m3 to faster than an e46 m3 with only a couple of mods?
i don't see it.
you beating a dinan supercharged m3 by a car up to 100 only further confuses me.
carrrnuttt 08-05-2006, 01:45 PM :nonoThose are the only mods and That's a race?(EVO MR):confused
He missed listing the most critical mod: the S50 in his car.
sausrigging 08-05-2006, 02:02 PM :nonoThose are the only mods and That's a race?(EVO MR):confused
s50+ e30 = A light fast car..
coolcarlski 08-05-2006, 03:04 PM S50+E30 M3 = my friend has one as well! And he's not running with an EVO MR!
Bsaint 08-05-2006, 03:06 PM S50+E30 M3 = my friend has one as well! And he's not running with an EVO MR!
yeah he should be walking them. there not that great. I beat this guys around here by 2 or 3 cars then we raced him in the s54 e36 and walked him by 5 or 6 in 2 gears
made a thread about a week ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sNu3I7dhCg
coolcarlski 08-05-2006, 03:11 PM yeah he should be walking them. there not that great. I beat this guys around here by 2 or 3 cars then we raced him in the s54 e36 and walked him by 5 or 6 in 2 gears
made a thread about a week ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sNu3I7dhCgI saw the vid.That guys EVO performed horribly.For u to beat that guy lke that his car was either driven badly or there's something seriously wrng with it!We're not to far from each other.We have a couple of EVo's here your E36 S54 motored car can have a go with.;) nonetheless.Nice car.
Bsaint 08-05-2006, 03:13 PM I saw the vid.That guys EVO performed horribly.For u to be that guy lke that his car was either driven badly or there's something seriously wrng with it!We're not to far from each other.We have a couple of EVo's here your E36 S54 motored car can have a go with.;) nonetheless.Nice car.
yeah considering the evo ran 12.7 at the track, such a horrible driver.. :rolleyes people these days refuse to believe things, then u show them a video and no, no still dont believe them.
coolcarlski 08-05-2006, 03:16 PM yeah considering the evo ran 12.7 at the track, such a horrible driver.. :rolleyes people these days refuse to believe things, then u show them a video and no, no still dont believe them.Ran a 12.7 And u beat him by 5-6 cars in two gears?:confused Jeez imagine what you'd do to an E60 M5!:rolleyes
Bsaint 08-05-2006, 03:19 PM Ran a 12.7 And u beat him by 5-6 cars in two gears?:confused Jeez imagine what you'd do to an E60 M5!
well he trapped 105 106 ish I believe and armiani in the s54 did a 12.9 at a 110 and also ran some others at a 115, as you would know awd cars trap lower. :embarrasm soo looking at just that any smart or some what intelligent person could figure out even tho the evo ran a faster 1/4 if they raced the s54 would be catching it at the end of the track and doing faster mph a.k.a. on highway = walked 1/4 mile is everything buddy... need to learn that.
coolcarlski 08-05-2006, 03:25 PM well he trapped 105 106 ish i believe and armiani in the s54 did a 12.9 at a 110 and also ran some others at a 115, as you would know awd cars trap lower and highways speed is affected. :embarrasmYes some are but there's an andidote for that.Talking strictly power and no laughing gas. However,do you care to give the car pictured below a try if that's the case?;)
PS 12.9 at 110 mph is pretty gd.
Bsaint 08-05-2006, 03:27 PM Yes some are but there's an andidote for that.Talking strictly power and no laughing gas. However,do you care to give the car pictured below a try if that's the case?;)
PS 12.9 at 110 mph is pretty gd.
hahhah realize your wrong and look like an idiot you quickly turn and offer to race hahahha. kids these days...and im sure Amirani would love a good challenge much like anyone does. Altho he is now spraying i believe so think that would be good race... :devillook
coolcarlski 08-05-2006, 03:33 PM hahhah realize your wrong and look like an idiot you quickly turn and offer to race hahahha. kids these days...and im sure Amirani would love a good challenge much like anyone does. Altho he is now spraying i believe so think that would be good race... :devillookNow I look like an idiot by offering a race?:confused Wrong about what!! Like I said,we have some EVo's and DSM's here.You're not far so perhaps we could arrange a meet! I'm just saying,lets see!I see no harm in that.Then we can see whose the idiot by your wrds bud!And b4 u call anyone a kid I'll let you know I'm Twice your age Junior!Been in this race game the total of your yrs!;)
coolcarlski 08-05-2006, 03:42 PM Altho he is now spraying i believe so think that would be good race... :devillook
No Problema!!!!!:evil2
dakarGeorge 08-05-2006, 04:04 PM lets not loose sight of the fact that he only beat the evo by 1/4 cl...not like he walked it.
if the evo was stock and had extra people then we would expect a m3 like his to pull a little bit.
dude get your flippin jack stands out of the car
coolcarlski 08-05-2006, 04:08 PM dude get your flippin jack stands out of the carLOL!Which car?
I also wonder where he went?
Rogue M3 08-06-2006, 01:23 AM The race against the Evo sounds about right (as for the s/c M3 I'm not too sure what happened there) He stated that the Evo was pulling up to 65 then past 80 the M3 pulled by a 1/4. It's no secret that stock Evo's will die out quickly at 70-80 mph. It's been 5 years since I had my E36 M3 but as I remember it pulled much harder at high speeds than my Evo does.
I just solved that problem in my IX MR today. :evil2 I installed a full 3" tbe with cat delete, Walbro 255 hp fuel pump, MBC, lower IC pipe, 1 step colder plugs and a custom flash. :D The IX has transformed into a new beast now. Next up is a new set of cams and a new JDM Evo IX 20g turbo and injectors. :alright
coolcarlski 08-06-2006, 07:20 AM The race against the Evo sounds about right (as for the s/c M3 I'm not too sure what happened there) He stated that the Evo was pulling up to 65 then past 80 the M3 pulled by a 1/4. It's no secret that stock Evo's will die out quickly at 70-80 mph. It's been 5 years since I had my E36 M3 but as I remember it pulled much harder at high speeds than my Evo does.
Then something's either wrong with my 99 M3 which I doubt or something was definitely wrong with your EVO!:nono
Bsaint 08-06-2006, 01:43 PM Then something's either wrong with my 99 M3 which I doubt or something was definitely wrong with your EVO!:nono
maybe your just the one who cant drive... :alright and if your twice my age, why don’t you act like it... your acting like an immature UTI kid.
I'm Twice your age Junior!Been in this race game the total of your yrs!;)
:rolleyes baller yo
coolcarlski 08-06-2006, 04:57 PM maybe your just the one who cant drive... :alright and if your twice my age, why don’t you act like it... your acting like an immature UTI kid.
:rolleyes baller yo Immature? About what? You're an idiot!Can't stick to the point!
Do you wanna arrange a meet or what? Not into talking crap on the computer.Not into e-thuggin,if that's what you're trying to achieve.
You're in ,PA we can have runs for fun or $$ which I'd prefer, with our cars or what? No answer,then you basically proved me right by default.PM me and we can see.
Why all the stupid insults junior?:confused Let's just run at ATCO ,or E-town,bring your crew,your recorder,i'll bring my crew and we can report the results to BF.Simple,no insults needed!;)
OK everybody,we'll see if he's up to the challenge.His E36 M3 or friends E36 S54 motored M3 against Any EVO or DSM in the crew! All he wants to do is pass insults on the computer like a real grown up! I'm asking for a simple let's see who is right and who will win.What's the deal???
Matt P. 08-06-2006, 05:58 PM Worst story ever
BMWALDO 08-06-2006, 06:14 PM Worst story ever
+1 along with the others.
trBo328iKevo 08-07-2006, 03:55 AM Immature? About what? You're an idiot!Can't stick to the point!
Do you wanna arrange a meet or what? Not into talking crap on the computer.Not into e-thuggin,if that's what you're trying to achieve.
You're in ,PA we can have runs for fun or $$ which I'd prefer, with our cars or what? No answer,then you basically proved me right by default.PM me and we can see.
Why all the stupid insults junior?:confused Let's just run at ATCO ,or E-town,bring your crew,your recorder,i'll bring my crew and we can report the results to BF.Simple,no insults needed!;)
OK everybody,we'll see if he's up to the challenge.His E36 M3 or friends E36 S54 motored M3 against Any EVO or DSM in the crew! All he wants to do is pass insults on the computer like a real grown up! I'm asking for a simple let's see who is right and who will win.What's the deal???
How bout lets see pictures of your cars that you say you all have...because anybody can get there friends cars but how bout lets see your cars...**retard**
Also Evo 8's, EVo MR's, and all other EVo's don't really have that much alike from each other than just the suspension package you're just looking at the name of it & being fooled by it...EVo is Evo plain & simple, good any car can beat any car if you have the right car, knowledge, brain, and ballz.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0503_2005_lancer_comparison/
trBo328iKevo 08-07-2006, 04:05 AM Actually Evo isn't much slower from a roll either guys, now if we're talking about STi then ok thats different though...If you compare EVo vs STi from stop, STi will most likely win but from a roll Evo will more likely come on top...
But any s50 e36 m3 motor swap in e30 shell should be able to beat a Evo with no problem especially with couple basic mods, does not matter if you're going from a roll or stop, its almost like trying to compare a 2100-2200lb Miata with only like 180hp vs 280hp @ 3500lbs, who will win....
mavrikno13764 08-07-2006, 05:22 AM it was prolly a lancer with an EVO body kit =P
coolcarlski 08-07-2006, 05:56 AM How bout lets see pictures of your cars that you say you all have...because anybody can get there friends cars but how bout lets see your cars...**retard**
"Retard"!:eek::lol Sorry about challenging your partner there Miss! Yea like a J.O. I randomly put 4 "old" cars in my sig to show that I'm the man!:rolleyes Give me a break! Get a life!
coolcarlski 08-07-2006, 05:56 AM it was prolly a lancer with an EVO body kit =P:lol
trBo328iKevo 08-07-2006, 07:24 PM "Retard"!:eek::lol Sorry about challenging your partner there Miss! Yea like a J.O. I randomly put 4 "old" different cars in my sig to show that I'm the man!:rolleyes Give me a break! Get a life!
I have a life thats why i breath on planet earth :D
kapolani 08-07-2006, 07:37 PM How bout lets see pictures of your cars that you say you all have...because anybody can get there friends cars but how bout lets see your cars...**retard**
Also Evo 8's, EVo MR's, and all other EVo's don't really have that much alike from each other than just the suspension package you're just looking at the name of it & being fooled by it...EVo is Evo plain & simple, good any car can beat any car if you have the right car, knowledge, brain, and ballz.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0503_2005_lancer_comparison/
:confused
English... Do you speak it?!?!
coolcarlski 08-07-2006, 10:19 PM :confused
English... Do you speak it?!?!I'm surprised he knows how to spell "retard"!He's been called that so much he can barely read,speak or write!:confused
///M3Augy 08-07-2006, 10:43 PM post some pics of the TSI...
Evolved 08-08-2006, 11:29 AM yeah he should be walking them. there not that great. I beat this guys around here by 2 or 3 cars then we raced him in the s54 e36 and walked him by 5 or 6 in 2 gears
made a thread about a week ago
For the youtube race, unless he has some type of EM or at least a reflash those mods are fairly irrelevant. What exactly is "more".
For the s54 e36 race, sounds like that Evo was stock.
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