I was downtown tonight and on santa clara/san pedro the cops were lined up pulling over all modified cars and checking under the hood. Cars were being towed constantly and plenty of tickets were being handed out. Looks like they are cracking down big time on modded cars so watch out down there

Lame, I go there all the time with my car and cops are usually pretty cool as long as you arnt doing something stupid.

Cops are less prone to pull over a modded bmw as long as you don't do something stupid or have an overly loud exhaust.

-Rich

You guys have nothing to worry about. It's the import cars that have to handle the heat. If they pull you over and pop your hood, what are they going to do? Cite you for your intake system? Big deal. At least you'll walk away with the fact that you don't have to swap back the stock engine. The police are mainly concerned with imports (especially 240sx's) with illegal engine swaps (especially those with SR20DET's). Hence why I hardly drive my S14 SR20 near the South Bay.

And is that you, Dave? What happened to the Rustang?! Nice seeing you again!

You guys have nothing to worry about. It's the import cars that have to handle the heat. If they pull you over and pop your hood, what are they going to do? Cite you for your intake system? Big deal. At least you'll walk away with the fact that you don't have to swap back the stock engine. The police are mainly concerned with imports (especially 240sx's) with illegal engine swaps (especially those with SR20DET's). Hence why I hardly drive my S14 SR20 near the South Bay.

And is that you, Dave? What happened to the Rustang?! Nice seeing you again!
Yeah you say big deal on citing for the intake, but it happend to me. It's not a quick fixaticket, I gotta take my car to be inspected by a "state referee" and believe me that aint cheap.:cashwalle

Yeah you say big deal on citing for the intake, but it happend to me. It's not a quick fixaticket, I gotta take my car to be inspected by a "state referee" and believe me that aint cheap.:cashwalle

So you swap your stock airbox back on and there you have it. You prefer swapping back an airbox or an entire engine set?

And I'm quite aware of the "state referee." Hell, anyone who drives an import knows who they are. If I ever get caught with my SR, then I am ultimately screwed.

And how are the moldings I sold you holding up?:pikachu

You guys have nothing to worry about. It's the import cars that have to handle the heat. If they pull you over and pop your hood, what are they going to do? Cite you for your intake system? Big deal.
+1

pfffff i aint scurred.






now if it was keeping me from teh spa id be worried.

You guys have nothing to worry about. It's the import cars that have to handle the heat. If they pull you over and pop your hood, what are they going to do? Cite you for your intake system? Big deal. At least you'll walk away with the fact that you don't have to swap back the stock engine. The police are mainly concerned with imports (especially 240sx's) with illegal engine swaps (especially those with SR20DET's). Hence why I hardly drive my S14 SR20 near the South Bay.

And is that you, Dave? What happened to the Rustang?! Nice seeing you again!whats up man! i picked up the roady back in jan. my brother drives the moosestang now. You are definitley right about imports, i watched a integra and eclipse get towed and they had a srt and another integra waiting. It was almost like a DUI checkpoint for modded cars.

pfffff i aint scurred.






now if it was keeping me from teh spa id be worried.:lol

They were doing the same in hunington last week. FaF3 is to blame... LOL i dotn knwo if its the movie or not but I have seen it. I get looks from cops all the time. My cars kida loud from the UUC and intake. but other than that I pass smog .

Yeah you say big deal on citing for the intake, but it happend to me. It's not a quick fixaticket, I gotta take my car to be inspected by a "state referee" and believe me that aint cheap.:cashwalle

I still don't understand what exactly you did to get pulled over. Were you seriously just driving normally?

cops usually dont have a problem with my car, its bone stock, i had teh cosmos CAI in there, and it was extremely loud due to teh stock exhaust (don't ask me why) but cops would look but never question me on my car being modified.

not to mention downtown SJ is a good place to get your car vanadalized or stolen or stripped of parts.

Wait, so it's illegal to have aftermarket intake/exhaust? I thought as long as it passed smog and was CARB certified etc etc it was as legal as stock...?

Are any of the CAI / exhausts 50 state legal besides the DINAN stuff?

I've gotten pulled over on my Kawasaki ZX-6R (115 in a 55) and they didn't say anything about the exhaust I put on there.. Hell he didnt even give me a ticket for speeding, just for passing on a double yellow... Maybe i just got lucky? He was a CHP bike cop too haha

^^ ECIS and Dinan...that's it for now

So you swap your stock airbox back on and there you have it. You prefer swapping back an airbox or an entire engine set?

And I'm quite aware of the "state referee." Hell, anyone who drives an import knows who they are. If I ever get caught with my SR, then I am ultimately screwed.

And how are the moldings I sold you holding up?:pikachu
My intake is legit just didn't have the carb sticker on there. My main concern is the wasted time and $$ to go to state ref. mouldings are fabulous thanks.:thumbup:

I still don't understand what exactly you did to get pulled over. Were you seriously just driving normally?
Uhh yeah....I know when I driving normal or not. I guesss it never occured to you that sometimes maybe cops don't have anything else better to do sometimes but give out bogus tickets instead of detering real crime ;)

That sucks.

Reason why i'm looking for a supersprint exhaust.

Also, any catback exhaust is street legal as long as it passes a dB test.

I woulda told the cop in your case to shove it if he asked to look under your hood, and that if he thought the exhaust was illegal to put it to decibel meter.

these kinda topics make me worried to drive my car. i got the vf stage 1 charger which is smog legal they just arent carb certified yet (altho they have already applied for it and everything). i would assume they would tow my car if i they look under my hood :/

these kinda topics make me worried to drive my car. i got the vf stage 1 charger which is smog legal they just arent carb certified yet (altho they have already applied for it and everything). i would assume they would tow my car if i they look under my hood :/

If it's not CARB certified than it's not smog legal in CA. If it were smog legal you wouldn't be worried.

If it's not CARB certified than it's not smog legal in CA. If it were smog legal you wouldn't be worried.
well yeah what i meant is that it passes all emmissions requirements, it just hasnt been approved yet so yeah its not smog legal.

dinan is carb legal but you hafta have the carb sticker that comes with it? most people don't have the carb stickers though.

would it be possible to get an intake that is not carb legal to be signed off by a referee?? Does anyone know?

Yes, but it has to go through a lab test which is $$$

Pretty much have to go through the same procedure grey market cars go though.

It's mostly the Japanese imports that should be worried. Those cops don't really know what they're talking about anyway. They tried to tell my friend that a B series motor belonged in his Prelude type SH and that he had an illegal engine swap for his H22...

is KN air intake carb legal?

not to mention downtown SJ is a good place to get your car vanadalized or stolen or stripped of parts.


Dude you have got to be kidding. Don't park in alleys where there is no lights and that wont happen.

LOL one of my friends was down there he went into a restaurant to use the restroom and he came out and his rims were gone.

he had a civic tho.

There is ONE phrase all of you who are worried about this need to memorize:

"I do not consent to a search."

Absent exigent circumstances or a warrant, the police CANNOT look under your hood without your permission.

not to mention downtown SJ is a good place to get your car vanadalized or stolen or stripped of parts.

so true.. i parked my car on 3rd st and san pedro to go have fun at mardi gras and when we went or should i say stumbled back to the car all my windows exept for the windshield was shattered my hood, roof and trunk was caved in form people jumpin on it and my indash monitor , 2 tv headrests and dvd player in the glove was stolen! and sjpd wouldnt even take a report and told us to clean the glass on the street so we kicked it out into the middle of the road and took off

on another occassion me and a friend went to downtown and around 2am i got stopped cause he said my headlights were to bright, then he asked me to step out for a sobriety test, when i passed that they gave me the breatalizer. when i passed that he says" also i noticed u have no front plate, put it back on or next time i will cite you for it" gave me my licsense back and told me to head home sjpd have nothin better to do rather than to mess with folks

There is ONE phrase all of you who are worried about this need to memorize:

"I do not consent to a search."

Absent exigent circumstances or a warrant, the police CANNOT look under your hood without your permission.

forreals? what about if they say they have probabke cause, cause if your car has a muffler then they'll think u have a souped up engine right?

just put it this way. theres just way too many gangster wannabes there who feel like they got something to prove IE high schoolers w/ nothing to do but cause trouble.

You guys have nothing to worry about. It's the import cars that have to handle the heat. If they pull you over and pop your hood, what are they going to do? Cite you for your intake system? Big deal. At least you'll walk away with the fact that you don't have to swap back the stock engine. The police are mainly concerned with imports (especially 240sx's) with illegal engine swaps (especially those with SR20DET's). Hence why I hardly drive my S14 SR20 near the South Bay.

And is that you, Dave? What happened to the Rustang?! Nice seeing you again!

whow, whow its illegal to do an engine swap in CA???:shifty :eyecrazy :eek: :mad

whow, whow its illegal to do an engine swap in CA???:shifty :eyecrazy :eek: :mad

:lightning

whow, whow its illegal to do an engine swap in CA???:shifty :eyecrazy :eek: :mad

I have a CARB legal LS1 swap in a 93 RX7...

I assume you are being sarcastic, but you never know on a UBB

There is ONE phrase all of you who are worried about this need to memorize:

"I do not consent to a search."

Absent exigent circumstances or a warrant, the police CANNOT look under your hood without your permission.

This simply isn't true in CA.

hmmm
are you sure ?

There is ONE phrase all of you who are worried about this need to memorize:

"I do not consent to a search."

Absent exigent circumstances or a warrant, the police CANNOT look under your hood without your permission.


Um no. That wont work..No warrant needed.

Do a little research before misleading people.

Trust me.

California Vehicle Code

2800. (a) It is unlawful to willfully fail or refuse to comply with
any lawful order, signal, or direction of any peace officer, as
defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of
Part 2 of the Penal Code, when that peace officer is in uniform and
is performing duties under any of the provisions of this code, or to
refuse to submit to any lawful inspection under this code

yes, very hard to argue with a police officer (nevermind the fact that they can do whatever they want and have a gun...and can just toss you in the back of their car for refusing searches).

i got pulled over in my M3 years ago because the asswipe redneck in the lifted truck behind me had a loud stereo!

i tried to explain how my system (which wasn't turned up) was incapable of producing the illegal levels which he was hearing (across the intersection). i believe the distance is 50ft yes?

anyways, he basically called me a liar and said it was indeed my car he heard (and my puny 8" stealth boxes inside the sound insulated bmw trunk) and told me to pop my hood where he cited me for my Conforti CAI.

a bunch of headaches later ($$$ and trip to the referee) i was able to get my fixit ticket corrected.

just don't be an ass and you won't get cited for extra items...unless, as in my case, the police is having severe PMS that day...

Um no. That wont work..No warrant needed.

Do a little research before misleading people.

Trust me.

California Vehicle Code

2800. (a) It is unlawful to willfully fail or refuse to comply with
any lawful order, signal, or direction of any peace officer, as
defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of
Part 2 of the Penal Code, when that peace officer is in uniform and
is performing duties under any of the provisions of this code, or to
refuse to submit to any lawful inspection under this code
Vehicle Code section 2806 is more relevant, but it's not without limits:


Police officers are not empowered to stop cars, detain drivers and conduct tests to discover vehicle equipment violations without cause. Vehicle Code section 2806 confers such right on general police officers only when they have reasonable cause to believe the vehicle is not equipped as required by the Vehicle Code or is in an unsafe condition. The section reads: "Any regularly employed and salaried police officer or deputy sheriff having reasonable cause to believe that any vehicle or combination of vehicles is not equipped as required by this code or is in such unsafe condition as to endanger any person, may require the driver to stop and submit the vehicle or combination of vehicles to an inspection and such tests as may be appropriate to determine the safety to persons and compliance with the code." (Veh. Code, § 2806.)

People v. Grace, 32 Cal. App. 3d 447, 451-452 (Cal. Ct. App. 1973).

So the cop has to have reasonable cause. Nobody has taken a case up on appeal regarding underhood searches, so we have no clear answer on what constitutes "reasonable cause to believe" there are illegal mods in the engine bay. Does a loud muffler alone provide reasonable cause? Stickers? Loud stereo?

I'd ask the cop what is his reasonable cause. (Note that the 4th amendment requires "probable cause" for a search, the California law appears to be a slightly lower standard). Even if he gives you some reason, tell him you do not consent to a search. If he reaches into your car and pops your hood anyway, you have good grounds to challenge the search in court.

Will it cost more money for an attorney to fight it than to fix the vehicle? Probably. But if you have an engine swap it might not be.

thats some good info! if i get pulled over and the cop checks under my hood and see's my vf supercharger, what will happen to me? will i get a ticket and have to go to the ref, will i get towed, car get crushed, etc?? thanks

sheeet dave, i can't get stupid and spin tight ones on san carlos anymore?!

easy fix to this problem

keep like a box of krispy kremes in your car at all times and be like yo...

thats some good info! if i get pulled over and the cop checks under my hood and see's my vf supercharger, what will happen to me? will i get a ticket and have to go to the ref, will i get towed, car get crushed, etc?? thanks

Most likely he'll cite you for the supercharger (if he notices it) and send you to the state ref. Worst case scenario for you: uninstall the supercharger and take it there; it'll be written off.

And they don't crush cars. Even guys with illegal JDM engines don't get their shit crushed. They all get cited to the state ref. I think the only way you get your car crushed is if you're involved and ultimately caught in organized street racing.

they have Magneto on retainer....patrolling the streets.

he'll just snatch any cars using his powers and mash them up into steel cubes...and give them back to you to take home.

=)

basically...if you think you have to argue motor vehicle codes to a cop i think you've lost already (unless you are a lawyer). as long as the codes quote "cause" then i'd say it's up to the cop's discretion (and the judge will probably take their word over yours)

Someone needs to start a certified class in vehicle inspection law, codes, etc. I'd take that class, get a certification in it, just to have some grounds to argue in court if it ever comes to that :-p Then again, I haven't driven my car for over a month, and I don't go to any meets.

Nothing pisses cops off like having someone tell them what the law is, even if you're right. (maybe especially if you're right) And judges are really reluctant to throw out searches that turn up illegal stuff, whether blow or blowers. Principle can be very expensive.

a word of advice... avoid going down santa clara street on weekend nights. even though it sounds like there might have been a little sting operation going on, there are always a ton of cops on santa clara, and a lot of them just sit on the middle of the road ready to pull people over. it's been like this for years. my friends and i always use the side streets to get around.

Nothing pisses cops off like having someone tell them what the law is, even if you're right. (maybe especially if you're right) And judges are really reluctant to throw out searches that turn up illegal stuff, whether blow or blowers. Principle can be very expensive.This all pretty much true. Although it's good to know your rights and try to exercise them, cops carry a big stick and a gun and can pretty much do what they want, and worry about the consequences later.

Back in the 80s, when I had a mini truck (lowered, wide tires, rims, pinstriping, it was clean and tight :buttrock ), I got pulled over for speeding by a CHP on a bike. I lowered the passenger window to talk to him, he reached in, unlocked the door, opened the door, and stuck his motorcycle boot inside my truck on the floor and leaned inside to talk to me, apparently just to show who's boss (or sniff for weed, maybe). It was a total dick maneuver, but what could I do, he didn't ask permission.

Bottom line, now I'd try to be cooperative and polite, and agree with them about most things (except any violations they accuse you of), right up to the point where they ask you to open the hood. Then politely tell them you understand your Constitutional rights and don't consent to any search, and let them do what they will. Trying to stop them by arguing is going to be futile. Don't offer to help them though, make them unlatch the hood and open it.

You may never end up going to court on the search, but at least you preserved your rights as best you can. Once you provide your consent to search, everything they find is fair game, so I would not do it. Maybe somebody will argue that by cooperating, you might get away with something, but if that's the case, then they would not need to open your hood to look for stuff, would they?

I have a CARB legal LS1 swap in a 93 RX7...

I assume you are being sarcastic, but you never know on a UBB

Nice cars! How much did it cost for you to complete the LS1 swap? I have my modified RX7 registered at a relatives house in NV where there isn't any smog at all. Another alternative I looked into was using a PO box in a city in CA that doesn't have smog (Bodega Bay?). I have yet to get any heat for my out of state plates or modifications; however, Im always nervous driving around town.

Sirrelix

Nice cars! How much did it cost for you to complete the LS1 swap? I have my modified RX7 registered at a relatives house in NV where there isn't any smog at all. Another alternative I looked into was using a PO box in a city in CA that doesn't have smog (Bodega Bay?). I have yet to get any heat for my out of state plates or modifications; however, Im always nervous driving around town.

Sirrelix

$10k is the conventional cost. It can be done cheaper if you really take your time to get all of the parts together with good deals.

Its nice to drive one and not worry about the smog nazis at all.

While it may be futile, I am a citizen I should excercise my rights accordingly, otherwise for what use are they?

Let's revisit this little instructional video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWemgVk8-3U&search=chris%20rock%20police

some basic guidelines on preventing police brutality... =^)

I was downtown tonight and on santa clara/san pedro the cops were lined up pulling over all modified cars and checking under the hood. Cars were being towed constantly and plenty of tickets were being handed out. Looks like they are cracking down big time on modded cars so watch out down there
screw that. they need a search warrant for that. refuse to any search

OMG -- California = Communism

i am really starting to hate america, starting with the left coast
next thing you know they will pull over blondes for being to airheaded to drive
or little old ladies for not having quick enough reaction time
or people with radios because they are distracting.

Im digging a bunker and stocking up on canned foods

Yeah you say big deal on citing for the intake, but it happend to me. It's not a quick fixaticket, I gotta take my car to be inspected by a "state referee" and believe me that aint cheap.:cashwalle


How much?

i think most old people should be pulled over because they dont have good reaction time.... and drive like 10mph or more slower than the speed limit.

they are equally as dangerous as someone driving slightly intoxicated and/or high.

Let's revisit this little instructional video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWemgVk8-3U&search=chris%20rock%20police

some basic guidelines on preventing police brutality... =^)hilarious! I love the mad woman

While it may be futile, I am a citizen I should excercise my rights accordingly, otherwise for what use are they?Not sure if you are responding to me, but I didn't say it's futile to exercise your rights, but I did say once you exercise your rights by telling them you don't consent to a search, it's futile to try and stop a cop from searching your car by arguing with them.

Youtube=win.

Youtube=win.

Chris Rock FTW.

i wanna make a movie and put it on youtube yo.

i wanna make a movie and put it on youtube yo.

You putting the clownage on that z28 and Sti :buttrock

You putting the clownage on that z28 and Sti :buttrock

yeah dude that would have been funny
i remember when i was like 16 i inherited a hand me down 97 toyota avalon...

and like i raced a prelude and like an integra gsr and like raped em both. ROFL.

my friend like took the video and like it was funny as hell and like i think a bunch of times he fell on the floor of the passenger seat laughing it was just a really funny video of a couple of 16 year old idiots like fcking around in a family sedan. wow that sounds really bad but yeah. i think i still have it somewhere.

btw. about that SC meet. i can give you a ride if ur cars not running....i want lunch in SC!!! =)

Family sedans nowadays are packing...no joke. The day when we get smoked by a Toyota sedan may not be too far in the future.

I have a CARB legal LS1 swap in a 93 RX7...

I assume you are being sarcastic, but you never know on a UBB
Is your RX7 black? Did you take it to the state ref. at Wyotech Fremont a few months ago without a hood?

Family sedans nowadays are packing...no joke. The day when we get smoked by a Toyota sedan may not be too far in the future.

dude. we did this video back in 02.. before the HP boom.

everyone today wants new HP

did you know.

the new Camry at around 25k has a V6 that produces 267HP? and is good for low 6 second 0-60? thats like an E36 M3 stock. lol.

how bout the nissan maxima rated at 260HP?

and the new accord V6 rated at 250HP?

infiniti G35 sedan at 298HP.

seriously... the G35 iis probably faster than a bone stock E36 M3. i drove the coupe in my big test drive barrage b4 i bought my car and it sure was.

dude. we did this video back in 02.. before the HP boom.

everyone today wants new HP

did you know.

the new Camry at around 25k has a V6 that produces 267HP? and is good for low 6 second 0-60? thats like an E36 M3 stock. lol.

how bout the nissan maxima rated at 260HP?

and the new accord V6 rated at 250HP?

infiniti G35 sedan at 298HP.

seriously... the G35 iis probably faster than a bone stock E36 M3. i drove the coupe in my big test drive barrage b4 i bought my car and it sure was.


too bad none of these cars can turn for shit. except for maybe the G35, but its still a domestic so the corning aspect is never gonna be the greatest. japanese cars were never known for their cornering anyways.

too bad none of these cars can turn for shit. except for maybe the G35, but its still a domestic so the corning aspect is never gonna be the greatest. japanese cars were never known for their cornering anyways.
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too bad none of these cars can turn for shit. except for maybe the G35, but its still a domestic so the corning aspect is never gonna be the greatest. japanese cars were never known for their cornering anyways.

Since when were G35's domestic cars?

And way to stereotype about Japanese cars, Batman.:alright

You guys have nothing to worry about. It's the import cars that have to handle the heat. If they pull you over and pop your hood, what are they going to do? Cite you for your intake system? Big deal. At least you'll walk away with the fact that you don't have to swap back the stock engine. The police are mainly concerned with imports (especially 240sx's) with illegal engine swaps (especially those with SR20DET's). Hence why I hardly drive my S14 SR20 near the South Bay.

And is that you, Dave? What happened to the Rustang?! Nice seeing you again!
Um.... I think cars from Germany are imports too.

too bad none of these cars can turn for shit. except for maybe the G35, but its still a domestic so the corning aspect is never gonna be the greatest. japanese cars were never known for their cornering anyways.
What? RX7.. Skyline... Supra... Miata Cornering masters they are! The G35 is made by Nissan, I'm pretty sure they are in Japan too.

Um.... I think cars from Germany are imports too.

You know what I mean.

What? RX7.. Skyline... Supra... Miata Cornering masters they are! The G35 is made by Nissan, I'm pretty sure they are in Japan too.

+1

There's going to be some modded cars doing >100mph in DT San Jose next weekend....

I was downtown tonight and on santa clara/san pedro the cops were lined up pulling over all modified cars and checking under the hood. Cars were being towed constantly and plenty of tickets were being handed out. Looks like they are cracking down big time on modded cars so watch out down there
wow that sucks. Sure glad we don't have to deal with that here. :stickoutt

just keep about 24 krispy kremes in ur car and ur good.

people just need to chill out and stop hinting the cops that your shit is modded. I have had my car modded and live in San Jose and go downtown often, I just don't bump my radio like the ghetto ones and I don't make my exhaust get the cops attention.

Don't give them a reason to get them to pull you over.