I was out for a drive checking to see if my new gauges work (they do :buttrock) when I came up to a stoplight on San Antonio in Palo Alto (CA). No one was on the road at all, until a C6 Z06 pulled up. We both had our windows down, so while I waited for the light I said nice car and he said the same. He revved his engine, and I did the same, and then he laughed because he probably figured it was a 4 banger. The guy launched from at least 4k RPM when the light was green, and I didn't even bother really launching. Just just took off from 2k and listened to him rape me. The guy could drive pretty well; he got a good launch and his shift speeds were ungodly. The motor sounds INCREDIBLE up top and its so fucking fast I can't even describe it. He was in like 4th gear while I was making it through second. My four cylinders of fury didn't even have a chance. He pulled onto 101 North and I caught up to him and waved, only to be blown away when he dropped it two gears and took off, probably to go PWN a GT3 :devillook

Motherfuck the Z06 is fast :eek:

You will get raped by most anything, don't feel too bad..and the Z06 can rape most anything, in a straight line..so again..don't feel so bad.
At least you went home in a German car.

it might be a 318, but that is one nice looking E36! He might've thought it was an M3.

Super Death!

Sounds like you would have been just as well off pushing the car from a roll.

I bet he got high sucking on the jetwash from the vette..

Nice 318.

.and the Z06 can rape most anything, in a straight line..

I would say the C6 Z06 holds its own pretty well on the track....



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You will get raped by most anything, don't feel too bad..and the Z06 can rape most anything, in a straight line..so again..don't feel so bad.
At least you went home in a German car.

Meh. I like german cars and all, but I'd have much rather drove home in the Vette. It is faster than my car in every way. But IMO 997 GT3 > vette

addnon/celica: thanks for the compliments :)

Ya know the 997GT3 cup car comes with a 996GT3 motor..lol
I just found that out..
Hey if rocking Ozzy with yer mullet comming out the sunroof is your thing, then go for the Vette..roffle..

new C6 ZO6's are really mean cars for bone stock production cars...Cars put out i believe 505hp & very great aernodymaics & from what i've seen run high 11s all done bone stock...Takes pretty modded turboed bmw to beat a new c6 zo6...but nice death btw also..

ive driven one of those things and they are ridiculous, amazingly fast machines, it really scares you to drive it

So did you smoke him or you played with his head?

I totally smoked him. Left him in smoke cloud so big it started raining.

Ya know the 997GT3 cup car comes with a 996GT3 motor..lol
I just found that out..
Hey if rocking Ozzy with yer mullet comming out the sunroof is your thing, then go for the Vette..roffle..
you know we all know the only reason you rip on the vett is cause it rapes your car in everything. enough said

you know we all know the only reason you rip on the vett is cause it rapes your car in everything. enough said

The ignorance is strong with this one.
Also everyone who does a Z06 thread here always calls out the GT3 in hopes I will turn the thread into a flame fest..see how it works..
If you knew anything about the GT3 or anything beyond drag racing you might just repsect the GT3 a bit more.

You will get raped by most anything, don't feel too bad..and the Z06 can rape most anything, in a straight line..so again..don't feel so bad.
At least you went home in a German car.
Are you saying the c6 z06 handles like sh*t?

Are you saying the c6 z06 handles like sh*t. If thats the case you are very rong.

Wow you are pretty dumb for being god.
Who said handles like shit anywhere?
I have driven a C6 (not Z06) and I am pretty sure the leaf springs are the same in the Z06..The cars handle pretty freaking good out the box, not GT3 out the box good but good.
From the SCCA national program results of this year so far the GT3's are pwning the new Vettes. So that should tell ya something about it..Not much is better than a GT3 out the box..
check out this vid..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=360608128411076362

The ignorance is strong with this one.
Also everyone who does a Z06 thread here always calls out the GT3 in hopes I will turn the thread into a flame fest..see how it works..
If you knew anything about the GT3 or anything beyond drag racing you might just repsect the GT3 a bit more.
my car out slaloms your car. hahahahahahahahahah

The ignorance is strong with this one.
Also everyone who does a Z06 thread here always calls out the GT3 in hopes I will turn the thread into a flame fest..see how it works..
If you knew anything about the GT3 or anything beyond drag racing you might just repsect the GT3 a bit more.
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/content/articles/pdf/Slalom.pdf
so i dont know anything about handiling. i have that suspension pluse the torque arm and minus 250 pounds. last time i checked you car wouldnt do 72.5mph threw the slalom.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/112_0404_2004_ferrari_stradale_porsche_gt3/specifications.html

my car out slaloms your car. hahahahahahahahahah
so does mine

aahhh man I thought you would've taken him...lol

and yeah Z06's are f'n land barges, but they are quick as hell

lol AT THE RUSTANG MAGAZINE RACERS

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/content/articles/pdf/Slalom.pdf
so i dont know anything about handiling. i have that suspension pluse the torque arm and minus 250 pounds. last time i checked you car wouldnt do 72.5mph threw the slalom.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/112_0404_2004_ferrari_stradale_porsche_gt3/specifications.html

You can't even spell handling..LMAO

lol AT THE RUSTANG MAGAZINE RACERS

i know you have a big ego and all. but that dosent mean you have to go picking on someone else cause they made you look like a a$$ on the net. but go have fun with your gt3 and remember a$$holes with money only have friends cause, yep you gessed it because they have money. have a nice day

wow that video was good.

i am not soo sure that the vette is a bad handling car as some of you might think. having had first hand experience driving my brothers C5 i would say that that car handles very well. as a matter of fact, with the right driver it would possibly out handle the E36 M3 stock for stock.

i know you have a big ego and all. but that dosent mean you have to go picking on someone else cause they made you look like a a$$ on the net. but go have fun with your gt3 and rember a$$holes with money only have friends cause, yep you gessed it because they have money. have a nice day



fella's must we get soooo frank with each other? all of us need to take a chill pill here soo that noone will get too testy.

damn, i thought the 318 was gonna win this time. lol. i guess it was pretty fun to see the zo6 go. better luck next time

Never said it was bad, but ignorant clowns like to think the C06 will rape everything at anything and thats not true.
Rape is a harsh word.
And to the Rungstangs guys, do your POS's do 0-60 in 3.9..or 0-100 in 9 seconds???
That slalom time is good but your cars lack anything else good..Show me an all around Mustang that excels in everything..
I am waiting..Car needs to be stock..

The GT3 owns you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and nice looking bimmer.

The GT3 owns you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and nice looking bimmer.

Finally a Vader approved Post...
:redspot

Finally a Vader approved Post...
:redspot
lol

Never said it was bad, but ignorant clowns like to think the C06 will rape everything at anything and thats not true.
Rape is a harsh word.
And to the Rungstangs guys, do your POS's do 0-60 in 3.9..or 0-100 in 9 seconds???
well im selling my car to my friend. and he is switching the motor it should be low 11s or hi 10s. but as of now no. my car use to run 113s in the 1/4, i thought it was a little to touchy for me, so i sold some parts and im probly not breaking 105 int the 1/4.

so yeah your car is faster then me but you are the one who claimed i was a drag racer. i think i might be one of the most anti drag racers on here.

is there a stock car with 500hp that can turn a 1/4 in mid 11's beside the ZO6?

vader you and i both know that i make love to your car in my mind at least 5 times in an hour, but the ZO6 is more then just a straight line car. that car handles very well( perhaps not as good as yours with equal drivers, but perhaps that could be argued).

again vader, your car is the foundation of what my fantasies are based upon, but there is noo need to come down hard on the mustang fella's just cause their cars don't handle as well as your sexgasm of a car.

You will get raped by most anything, don't feel too bad..and the Z06 can rape most anything, in a straight line..so again..don't feel so bad.
At least you went home in a German car.

I heard its pretty good at everything. :confused

is there a stock car with 500hp that can turn a 1/4 in mid 11's beside the ZO6?

vader you and i both know that i make love to your car in my mind at least 5 times in an hour, but the ZO6 is more then just a straight line car. that car handles very well( perhaps not as good as yours with equal drivers, but perhaps that could be argued).
no it handles better the argument would be that the gt3 has better characteristics and more predictable

Guys, I am just giving you some info on the GT3 Vs The Z06..
The ring times on the Z06 beat the GT3 (996) now that's because the track has that very long back straight, higer HP cars will get better times especially if they handle ok in the twistes. (you GT4 racers can identify with this I am sure)
Now, here is some real racing info..
This is our GT3 Cup car (Sponsored by my company and GMG tunes my GT3)
This pic was taken from Speed World Challenge Long Beach.
Long Beach has a very long straight and the Vettes/Vipers killed the Porsches because of it. It goes from a twisties race into a drag race and the German cars simply get left. It's bad for them because with that advantage they get added weight in upcomming races.
Now you put the Vettes on the tight courses with no long straights and the Porsches murder the American race cars.
Mag racing is lame, we all know that it's about driver skill and in racing it's about wether conditions, fule consumption, tires, restrictions and track/car setup.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gmgcuplb.jpg

i want the lady. that is all.


Guys, I am just giving you some info on the GT3 Vs The Z06..
The ring times on the Z06 beat the GT3 (996) now that's because the track has that very long back straight, higer HP cars will get better times especially if they handle ok in the twistes. (you GT4 racers can identify with this I am sure)
Now, here is some real racing info..
This is our GT3 Cup car (Sponsored by my company and GMG tunes my GT3)
This pic was taken from Speed World Challenge Long Beach.
Long Beach has a very long straight and the Vettes/Vipers killed the Porsches because of it. It goes from a twisties race into a drag race and the German cars simply get left. It's bad for them becuase with that advantage they get added weight.
Now you put the Vettes on the tight courses with no long straights and the Porsches murder the American race cars.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gmgcuplb.jpg

Guys, I am just giving you some info on the GT3 Vs The Z06..
The ring times on the Z06 beat the GT3 (996) now that's because the track has that very long back straight, higer HP cars will get better times especially if they handle ok in the twistes. (you GT4 racers can identify with this I am sure)
Now, here is some real racing info..
This is our GT3 Cup car (Sponsored by my company and GMG tunes my GT3)
This pic was taken from Speed World Challenge Long Beach.
Long Beach has a very long straight and the Vettes/Vipers killed the Porsches because of it. It goes from a twisties race into a drag race and the German cars simply get left. It's bad for them becuase with that advantage they get added weight.
Now you put the Vettes on the tight courses with no long straights and the Porsches murder the American race cars.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gmgcuplb.jpg

nice change in topic. As far as i know we where talking about street cars, not race cars.

We are talking about performance and handling. Not a change in subject just going beyond your ricer magazine 1/4 mile drag street world. The race world gives you an excellent real read on the differences of the cars.

We are talking about performance and handling. Not a change in subject just going beyond your ricer magazine 1/4 mile drag street world. The race world gives you an excellent real read on the differences of the cars.
god i love to drage race. soon im going to get my car too wheelie whooooiiee!!!

wait a minute vader, are you suggesting that i am a ricer? is this cause i told you that i would skeet on your car if i could ever get at least in a 10ft radius of it!? let me tell that i will shoot it that far and then smoke a cigar afterwards. don't doubt me

i will giggety gig in your GT3's gootis when you are not lookin!

i will giggety gig in your GT3's gootis when you are not lookin!:rofl

Wait a minute Z06 vette > 318i

No fing way I call BS!!!!!

318 > Z06!!!!:buttrock

Honestly have you riden in a vette, the ride is not nice and the interior is well like a minivan but i have to agree with

GT3 >>>>> Z06

Wait a minute Z06 vette > 318i

No fing way I call BS!!!!!

318 > Z06!!!!:buttrock

Honestly have you riden in a vette, the ride is not nice and the interior is well like a minivan but i have to agree with

GT3 >>>>> Z06

Vette interiors make me want to vomit..look at the GT3 (refined fighter jet setup) the guy in pic is my detailer..Zymol on window is 500 a jar..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/GT3MO2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gt3ruf.jpg

Those will kick a Murcielago's ass on dry pavement. AND they get 26 mpg highway. Nice car, great deal those Z06s.

Those will kick a Murcielago's ass on dry pavement. AND they get 26 mpg highway. Nice car, great deal those Z06s.

Sure it's a killer deal, but c'mon no one in the whole wide world would pick a Z06 over a Murci..
These are the comments that make me go..:confused

ok i am going to say that i would skeet on the C6 ZO6 instead of the Lambo, but that is just me. i think it is one of the sexiest cars on the road.

vader i loooove the interior on the car bro. let's be honest here, the first night that you had the car you skeeted on the inside and outside of it didn't you? look, it's ok. noone will judge you.

don't forget to giggety gig after your done

I skeeted shifting at 8200 rpm into 6th at 150

see now that is what i am talkin about! there is nothing wrong with alittle skeet skeet at 150mph. it's good for the prostrate i hear.

did you say giggety gig afterwards?

roffle

i will giggety gig in your GT3's gootis when you are not lookin!
why do you guys keep feeding this d-bags ego, like he really needs it, thats all he is some d-bag with a car, and he has to hang out on the net all day to feel cool.


We are talking about performance and handling. Not a change in subject just going beyond your ricer magazine 1/4 mile drag street world. The race world gives you an excellent real read on the differences of the cars.


how are ether of those magazines a ricer magazine, its hard data, it was recorded by real drivers. just face it, the z06 would take your car on a road track, wouldn't even need that good of a driver

Never said it was bad, but ignorant clowns like to think the C06 will rape everything at anything and thats not true.
Rape is a harsh word.
And to the Rungstangs guys, do your POS's do 0-60 in 3.9..or 0-100 in 9 seconds???
That slalom time is good but your cars lack anything else good..Show me an all around Mustang that excels in everything..
I am waiting..Car needs to be stock..

and it sounds more like you think the gt3 will rape everything at anything, and its for sure not true, and it would be all to easy to find a stang that could excel in everything, on the track, that would cost a 10th of the price of your car, granted the girls wouldn't think your cooler than you really are and the guys on here would kiss your feet.

and it sounds more like you think the gt3 will rape everything at anything, and its for sure not true, and it would be all to easy to find a stang that could excel in everything, on the track, that would cost a 10th of the price of your car, granted the girls wouldn't think your cooler than you really are and the guys on here would kiss your feet.

a 10th of the price, so like $9,000, because if that was true then why doesnt everybody have mustangs that excel in everything by putting so little money into them

seems like everybody just takes vader too seriously

a 10th of the price, so like $9,000, because if that was true then why doesnt everybody have mustangs that excel in everything by putting so little money into them

seems like everybody just takes vader too seriously

for serious...:confused

Whoa, another Z06 vs GT3 battle. First let me state that if given a choice, and money not being an issue, I would take a GT3 hands down. Not because its the fastest, but because it would be the most fun. I've driven a 997 and an 86 911, and nothing really compares to a porsche in terms of fun. The GT3 looks better too (IMO.) Appearance and daily comfort and fun to drive are more important to me than all out speed (for a street car). Going for all out lowest laptimes with a street car is pointless because you're not racing anyone! So, I'd pick what's most fun (not fastest, though they may be the same car) and that would hands down be a GT3. That and I've loved porsche's since before I could drive. But I love the cars, not the badge. I'd take the GT3 if it were made by KIA & were fugly if it were the same car mechanically.

That said, I think it could be argued that in stock trim, the Z06 is a faster car, not just on straights either. Vader pointed out that the Cup cars rape Z06's on tight courses, and that's fine, but I am talking about the cars you buy from the dealer and drive on the street, not race cars. He also pointed out that the Z06 posted a much faster ring time. While the ring does have long straights, it also has a lot of tight corners. But when you say that the GT3 would win on a tighter track, and that the Z06 pulled away on the ring because of the long straights, I'd have to disagree. The F430 has power equal to that of the Z06, but it still couldn't beat the Z06's time, so having high HP isn't enough. The Z06 will probably win hands down on large tracks and break even on shorter tracks. In terms of handling, the Z06 is a lot more than you'd expect.

Basically there is a lack of respect coming from both sides. While I would rather have the GT3, I'm not a badge whore, I don't think all vette owners have mullets and I can respect the Vette for its blistering speed and excellent value. At the same time, I can respect the GT3 for its poise and precision. The Z06 is a faster car, but the GT3 is probably much more fun and rewarding to drive. Different people like different things in a car - some people want the fastest overall laptime and those ends justfiy the means. For them, the laptime IS the fun. Others could care less for laptimes and just want fun. No demeanor is inferior to the other. Different strokes for different folks. I'll personally be going for a GT3 after college, but I won't even badmouth the Vette becuase I think it's a faster car.

good post man, and you started the battle, this should of been a plain ol 318 rapes Vette thread..

Ok, I read through this entire thread and it's funny how it changed topic to how a GT3 might possibly be as good of a track car as a new C6 Z06. Vader, i'm sure your car is fucking awesome, but you really do come off as bragging and having a huge ego.....500 for your bottle of detailer polish....big freaking whoop! yeah you got ripped off. How much do other things cost in the "O.C." LOL

To some people a mass produced domestic car that would be a killer track car and still have reletivley low maintenance/upkeep/mod costs is what they are looking for. Yeah, I'd like a GT3, or Lambo, or Ferrari etc....but I'd be afraid to drive the thing worrying that I'd get a ding and scratch on it. Not everyone in the world is a millionare with cash to just burn. I'm seriously amazed by some of the huge ego's on this board. I really like the quote "at least you drove home in a BMW"....big freaking deal....if that makes you feel better, then more power to ya, LOL.

Most of my posts are made in sarcasim, welcome to the net and take a look at the Speed World Challenge points so far this year..

Manufacturer Points
TOURING CAR
Acura 30
Mazda 27
BMW 11
Audi 11

Manufacturer Points
GT
Porsche 31
Cadillac 30
Dodge 29
Chevrolet 19

Most of my posts are made in sarcasim, welcome to the net and take a look at the Speed World Challenge points so far this year..

Manufacturer Points
TOURING CAR
Acura 30
Mazda 27
BMW 11
Audi 11

Manufacturer Points
GT
Porsche 31
Cadillac 30
Dodge 29
Chevrolet 19


damn according to this BMW's are tied with Audi's for being the worst cars on the planet. Sucks to be all of you guys!

Vader give it a rest buddy, your car is hot and you dont need to justify it on here. On the flipside, I would rather have the Z06 over your GT3 anyday if I was given the money. The money for a Z06 is far less than the GT3 and even without mods its much faster. Thats right, much. A few mods and you would be so far behind a Z06 on the ring it would be funny.

Saying a GT3 will beat a Z06 on a tight track is stupid. Ok then, I have a fast go kart that will RAPE your GT3 on a go kart track...............I guess that means the GT3 sucks.

more pointless jargon..
I never said it was a better car, for some reason people need to try to call it out and most are totally uneducated about the car, there are not many available like the mass produced vettes and there is really little info available to people about the car. The GT3's are beating the Z06's around tracks in several racing leagues. That does not mean it's better, might be better drivers or they got lucky and all the vettes crashed, whatever.
I am just educating people who say it would never happen around a track because it is happening.
Alot of tracks never use all the HP potential of the Vette, so the Porsche wins because it's a better handling car.
The amount of you guys who ever sat or drove in a GT3 and a C6 or ZO6 is what..no one and everyone has an opinion?

more pointless jargon..
I never said it was a better car, for some reason people need to try to call it out and most are totally uneducated about the car, there are not many available like the mass produced vettes and there is really little info available to people about the car. The GT3's are beating the Z06's around tracks in several racing leagues. That does not mean it's better, might be better drivers or they got lucky and all the vettes crashed, whatever.
I am just educating people who say it would never happen around a track because it is happening.
Alot of tracks never use all the HP potential of the Vette, so the Porsche wins because it's a better handling car.
The amount of you guys who ever sat or drove in a GT3 and a C6 or ZO6 is what..no one and everyone has an opinion?

so you understand my view on this, I am not bashing your car or its abilities at all. I think its one hell of a car. Would love to drive one.

Are the cars your referring to that are racing in stock form or fully modded race cars?? If modded, what kind of HP are the full race GT3's putting out if they are beating Z06's that I would think would be as heavily modded?

Check this out, here is a top gear review and the Z06 did not beat the GT3. This is in stock form.


http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/16/clarkson-drives-the-corvette-z06/

e-punk hahah

No offense vader, but you are a cardboard cut out stereotype. Man VW did a good job in marketing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Bpy4EvivI

check out tha trollz

damn according to this BMW's are tied with Audi's for being the worst cars on the planet. Sucks to be all of you guys!

Vader give it a rest buddy, your car is hot and you dont need to justify it on here. On the flipside, I would rather have the Z06 over your GT3 anyday if I was given the money. The money for a Z06 is far less than the GT3 and even without mods its much faster. Thats right, much. A few mods and you would be so far behind a Z06 on the ring it would be funny.

Saying a GT3 will beat a Z06 on a tight track is stupid. Ok then, I have a fast go kart that will RAPE your GT3 on a go kart track...............I guess that means the GT3 sucks.

well it certainly doesn't suck to be you when you drive the sexiest volvo i have ever seen that could probably hand me my butt in any race save maybe the twisties:buttrock . that baby is right

:bs
A 318 isn't going to lose to anything short of a tubbed drag Vette in a straight line.

FYI: You will get owned by the mods, if you don't clean up your post.


Also everyone who does a Z06 thread here always calls out the GT3 in hopes I will turn the thread into a flame fest..see how it works..

...and you rarely disappoint.

Check this out, here is a top gear review and the Z06 did not beat the GT3. This is in stock form.


http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/16/clarkson-drives-the-corvette-z06/
Put a Chevy or Ford badge on a GT3, and Clarkson will give it back handed compliments then end the show trying to find fault with the car.

Just because their driver ended up 100th of a second slower around the track, doesn't mean it can't be faster. Hell, I'd of gotten the thing off the line better and he was all over the place in that thing around the track. I'm sure that driver has a lot more time in P cars than Corvettes.

Is this the same 318 that raced the Enzo?

Wow you are pretty dumb for being god.
Who said handles like shit anywhere?
I have driven a C6 (not Z06) and I am pretty sure the leaf springs are the same in the Z06..The cars handle pretty freaking good out the box, not GT3 out the box good but good.
From the SCCA national program results of this year so far the GT3's are pwning the new Vettes. So that should tell ya something about it..Not much is better than a GT3 out the box..
check out this vid..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=360608128411076362

I agree the GT3 is an Awsome andling car, but the helicopter cant' corner at high speed.....A 318 could out handle a copter on a tight road corse when the copter has to follow the road course with alot of turns like that. ( Yes im a Pilot,.....i fly aircraft.)
I would still love to see what the outcome would be if a real comparison was done on a test track between the GT3 and the C6 Z06. I think we all know what that would be.

Check this out, here is a top gear review and the Z06 did not beat the GT3. This is in stock form.


http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/16/clarkson-drives-the-corvette-z06/

:freak

TopGear has to be the worst "Biased" auto show on TV. They have never had anything good to say about American or other import cars. Their test with "one" car on "one" day does not constitute that the same could happen on another day in different conditions with different cars. Not saying your car is a bad car, i like it, just not my choice if i were going to spend that king of money on a car in that class. For the price that a GT3 costs, i could buy the Z06 and spend the extra cash on mods and end up with somthing even faster. ( i dont care about the interior if i was in the market for speed & handling) nuff said.

:freak

TopGear has to be the worst "Biased" auto show on TV. They have never had anything good to say about American or other import cars. Their test with "one" car on "one" day does not constitute that the same could happen on another day in different conditions with different cars. Not saying your car is a bad car, i like it, just not my choice if i were going to spend that king of money on a car in that class. For the price that a GT3 costs, i could buy the Z06 and spend the extra cash on mods and end up with somthing even faster. ( i dont care about the interior if i was in the market for speed & handling) nuff said.

That is my view as well........I want a car in my garage that is just brutally fast, mean, and sounds like sex on wheels. Basically I just described the Z06 w/ mods. Actually that would be the Z06 stock.

re: Top Gear, the idiot smoked the hell out of the tires on the launch and was all over the course. A better launch alone would have beat the GT3 time. GT3 w/ a serious hp deficit put up a good time though.

well it certainly doesn't suck to be you when you drive the sexiest volvo i have ever seen that could probably hand me my butt in any race save maybe the twisties:buttrock . that baby is right

:redspot :redspot

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9076/sidequartering4je.jpg

I drove a c6 vette and it was fast...

i can only imagine the c6 Z06

Most of my posts are made in sarcasim, welcome to the net and take a look at the Speed World Challenge points so far this year..

Manufacturer Points
TOURING CAR
Acura 30
Mazda 27
BMW 11
Audi 11

Manufacturer Points
GT
Porsche 31
Cadillac 30
Dodge 29
Chevrolet 19

what does this mean you even said your self that the vetts had added weight because of there HP advantage. compairing racing cars is gay, they try to make the classes as even as possable. so your post have nothing relivent to this conversation.

Never said it was bad, but ignorant clowns like to think the C06 will rape everything at anything and thats not true.
Rape is a harsh word.
And to the Rungstangs guys, do your POS's do 0-60 in 3.9..or 0-100 in 9 seconds???
That slalom time is good but your cars lack anything else good..Show me an all around Mustang that excels in everything..
I am waiting..Car needs to be stock..

the 2000 Cobra R was a pretty good all around performer......

Just two things:

The helo pilot wasn't trying very hard, or that really isn't a great aircraft.

(In reference to the interiors) The cockpit of a jet really isn't refined at all. It's totally utilitarian, and looks and feels more like a tractor than a high end car.

That is all.

2000

:( lol...damnit i knew that, for some reason i was thinking of the Cobra R and the 2001 cobras at the same time.

but yeah, the 2000 cobra R is what i meant

Why do so many people feel it necessary to dogpile vader? Jeezus...

Sometimes vader can be a mouthpiece, but who at times isn't? That being said, he's usually right. Sometimes it doesn't matter how the facts are delivered, the important issue is that it is indeed, fact.

Berating someone for how much they spent on a car is pointless. It is all about perspective, and ones means changes ones perspective. Put another way, a GT3 to Vader is worth the money; to others, a 3 series is overpriced. To still others, for what they paid for a car, one could buy a different GT3 to drive for every day of the week. It's all about perspective.

Vader has never said that a GT3 is unbeatable in every way; but it's the one HE chose.

Don't take this car thing so seriously. It's just a car. And the car one is driving today is probably just going to get sold someday and forgotten about...only to be replaced by yet another car.

To the OP- nice death.

End of rant...

The fact that the Z06 and GT3 are even on a short top gear track shows that it could go either way. However, the Z06 was tied with the GT3RS, NOT the GT3. The fact that the Z06 is overwhemingly (10 seconds) faster on the n-ring suggests that it would be faster around the top gear track if top gear were a test track and not a TV show.

But the 318 hands the Z06 and GT3 their asses anyways, so this is all a mooot point.

The fact that the Z06 and GT3 are even on a short top gear track shows that it could go either way. However, the Z06 was tied with the GT3RS, NOT the GT3. The fact that the Z06 is overwhemingly (10 seconds) faster on the n-ring suggests that it would be faster around the top gear track if top gear were a test track and not a TV show.

But the 318 hands the Z06 and GT3 their asses anyways, so this is all a mooot point.



you have nooooo idea how much i concur with you here.

Put a Chevy or Ford badge on a GT3, and Clarkson will give it back handed compliments then end the show trying to find fault with the car.

Just because their driver ended up 100th of a second slower around the track, doesn't mean it can't be faster. Hell, I'd of gotten the thing off the line better and he was all over the place in that thing around the track. I'm sure that driver has a lot more time in P cars than Corvettes.

Clarkson always talks crap on Porsches man..more excuses..
The Z06 is an awesome machine..but everyone thinks it's like Chuck Norris and can bend skyscrapers with his pinky..
It's a car..the GT3 is a car..318..yup a car..
These debates are fun, but really they are all just cars and whoever buys any model buys them because that's what they want or can afford at the time. There is always a faster better car on the road than my car, your car, the Z06, and anycar.

318 OWNS the Z06 when it comes to how much money is left in the bank account.

318 OWNS the Z06 when it comes to how much money is left in the bank account.

And fuel in the fuel tank ;)

id rather buy a less expensive car (325ci) and mod it out. I think it opens up for more conversation, takes up time, you get to buy more shit (which is always fun), watch your car progress one kill at a time. Turning your stock road car into a sleeper monster is fun as shit

And fuel in the fuel tank ;)

+1 :rofl

Why do so many people feel it necessary to dogpile vader? Jeezus...

Sometimes vader can be a mouthpiece, but who at times isn't? That being said, he's usually right. Sometimes it doesn't matter how the facts are delivered, the important issue is that it is indeed, fact.

Berating someone for how much they spent on a car is pointless. It is all about perspective, and ones means changes ones perspective. Put another way, a GT3 to Vader is worth the money; to others, a 3 series is overpriced. To still others, for what they paid for a car, one could buy a different GT3 to drive for every day of the week. It's all about perspective.

Vader has never said that a GT3 is unbeatable in every way; but it's the one HE chose.

Don't take this car thing so seriously. It's just a car. And the car one is driving today is probably just going to get sold someday and forgotten about...only to be replaced by yet another car.

To the OP- nice death.

End of rant...

Great post, it's like my post above that I posted off a quote from the other page before I read this. You get it.
They are all just cars.
When the GT3 came out in 04 I followed the car and eventually got one in 05.
I chose it over a TT becuase of it's raw driving appeal. Belive me I tested the TT and even paid a lease on a 700hp TT that was for sale by a friend for a month. I ended up not going for ultimate HP and went for the raw 381 Hp in a LTW becuase the GT3 was simply so fun to drive. No one utililizes any car to it's full capabilities and I feel over boosting cars for e-cred and street cred is very immature. The GT3 is a car I will remember for the rest of my life.
The car has taught me how to drive better and to appreciate it for what it is.
The Z06 will have the same feeling for a Vette person, I am not a Vette person. You guys are BMW guys and I assume hope to step into a P car someday. I had a M3 back in the day too and it is still one of my favorite cars I ever had the pleasure of driving.

It's all in what you prefer...if you like vettes, get a vette. If you like porsches, get a porsche :)

It's all in what you prefer...if you like vettes, get a vette. If you like porsches, get a porsche :)

Yes and what is funny is...
What happened to the Chevy Vs Ford war?
Why has Chevy all the suddon deciced to go after Europe?
In all the press and hype on the Z06 they go after supercars and don't even mention Ford, except for the fact that the Z06 will maul the Ford Supercar.
It's like they brought it on the world and now all the supercar guys are getting defensive.
This debate is ongoing and even on the high brow supercar sites the mature drivers of the world and getting pissy about it.
It's pretty funny and as a GT3 owner I can step out of the debate and let the TT guys rant and rave about who has the biggest dick. I am a longtime fan of Chevy (the old Muscle cars) not really on the new stuff. BTW.
The GT3 is a niche unique car like a Lotus or a Noble.

Here is an email I just got from my buddy who got a Z06, pretty funny if you ask me..hahahaha
I am going on a drive when I get back from my next production trip..GT3, CGT and Z06 w/GT3 seats..hahah

Hey Sean
We are re-launching PhotoLeap as TurboFlix (this is the company started by Paul, guy in yellow CGT), with fast video sharing (and of course photo too). It's an easy way to share photos and videos that you do not want to be public. Check it out! www.turboflix.com

Things are going OK; We just got back from vacation, to again realize this is the best place on earth! How's that GT3? You want to come out for a drive with us sometime? BTW I just put GT3 seats in the Z06. Huge improvement!

Here is an email I just got from my buddy who got a Z06, pretty funny if you ask me..hahahaha
I am going on a drive when I get back from my next production trip..GT3, CGT and Z06 w/GT3 seats..hahah

Hey Sean
We are re-launching PhotoLeap as TurboFlix (this is the company started by Paul, guy in yellow CGT), with fast video sharing (and of course photo too). It's an easy way to share photos and videos that you do not want to be public. Check it out! www.turboflix.com (http://www.turboflix.com)

Things are going OK; We just got back from vacation, to again realize this is the best place on earth! How's that GT3? You want to come out for a drive with us sometime? BTW I just put GT3 seats in the Z06. Huge improvement!


FYI.......his website doesnt work

Yes and what is funny is...
What happened to the Chevy Vs Ford war?
Why has Chevy all the suddon deciced to go after Europe?
In all the press and hype on the Z06 they go after supercars and don't even mention Ford, except for the fact that the Z06 will maul the Ford Supercar.
It's like they brought it on the world and now all the supercar guys are getting defensive.
This debate is ongoing and even on the high brow supercar sites the mature drivers of the world and getting pissy about it.
It's pretty funny and as a GT3 owner I can step out of the debate and let the TT guys rant and rave about who has the biggest dick. I am a longtime fan of Chevy (the old Muscle cars) not really on the new stuff. BTW.
The GT3 is a niche unique car like a Lotus or a Noble.

well when the original C5 Z06 came out it was a hell of a performer and it did beat up on some exotics...and everyone always argues the price factor. its hard to argue that the vette, bang for buck is not one of the best performance cars out there......

even back when the ZR1 was out it was an impressive car....and the bang for buck performance is the major appeal of a car like that. plus its kind of an american icon



btw, as far as ford goes...their new 'badass' car is nothing spectacular. the GT is sic but the new GT500 is no faster than the 03/04 cobra and weighs fucking 4000 lbs. :eek: :confused

EVERYONE STOP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IT'S HAMMER TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







......... carry on..........

FYI.......his website doesnt work try this

http://turboflix.com/

The real question is What would you rather drive C6 ZO6 or GT3??? Interesting data point at Walnut Ridge Pro Solo we put a Data Logger in my GT3 and a competitors C5 ZO6 and an Elise and from a 20mph roll in 2nd gear the GT3 out pulled the Vette to top of 2nd and the Elise came in last. In Pro Solo the Elise gives the GT3 a run for its money with the C5 ZO6 coming in 3rd. By the way the GT3 Vader is refering to in Pro Solo Wins is mine with Ian Stewart driving:redspot . Rod McGeorges Modded ASP C6 ZO6 has yet to be faster than my Stock GT3 in Pro Solo.

That being said I think the new C6 ZO6 is the bast bang for the buck. I love my Porsches and Bimmers but I don't have my head in the sand regarding performance.

Peter

look all i want to do is skeet on vaders ride. is that soo wrong?

giggety gig

:jedicryin This thread is ridiculous.

Tell you what, give me all these magazine reviews and tv show tapes, I'll go take a dump and wipe my butt with them.

Buy and drive what you like, and worry about what the other guy has somewhere else.

well when the original C5 Z06 came out it was a hell of a performer and it did beat up on some exotics...and everyone always argues the price factor. its hard to argue that the vette, bang for buck is not one of the best performance cars out there......

even back when the ZR1 was out it was an impressive car....and the bang for buck performance is the major appeal of a car like that. plus its kind of an american icon



btw, as far as ford goes...their new 'badass' car is nothing spectacular. the GT is sic but the new GT500 is no faster than the 03/04 cobra and weighs fucking 4000 lbs. :eek: :confused
im a huge mustang fan and i Fing hate that car.

aahhh man I thought you would've taken him...lol

and yeah Z06's are f'n land barges, but they are quick as hell

land barges? don't they weigh as much as an e36 m3? :conf

The real question is What would you rather drive C6 ZO6 or GT3??? Interesting data point at Walnut Ridge Pro Solo we put a Data Logger in my GT3 and a competitors C5 ZO6 and an Elise and from a 20mph roll in 2nd gear the GT3 out pulled the Vette to top of 2nd and the Elise came in last. In Pro Solo the Elise gives the GT3 a run for its money with the C5 ZO6 coming in 3rd. By the way the GT3 Vader is refering to in Pro Solo Wins is mine with Ian Stewart driving:redspot . Rod McGeorges Modded ASP C6 ZO6 has yet to be faster than my Stock GT3 in Pro Solo.

That being said I think the new C6 ZO6 is the bast bang for the buck. I love my Porsches and Bimmers but I don't have my head in the sand regarding performance.

Peter

Thanx for the info! Keep on rocking!!!!!!!!

Vader why did you choose the gt3 over the turbo? just a curiosity question.

Vader why did you choose the gt3 over the turbo? just a curiosity question.

I think it boiled down to the GT3 is a pure sports car and the turbo is a land shark. My AMG was a land shark and I wanted to get back to the roots of driving an authentic sports car.

land barges? don't they weigh as much as an e36 m3? :conf

they weigh like 3000 lbs

umm vader the z06 did beat the gt3 in the top gear test track... the one it didnt beat was the gt3 rs.... the regular s gt3 only ran 1.26 where as the z06 was in the 1.22 range

umm vader the z06 did beat the gt3 in the top gear test track... the one it didnt beat was the gt3 rs.... the regular s gt3 only ran 1.26 where as the z06 was in the 1.22 range Yeah we know..it was quoted wrong in the story they had and then after I saw it was the RS..I am slowly RS modding my car now..got the aero done at least lol..I had not actually watched it untill yesterday..

Everyone's favorite automotive personality from across the pond — Britain's Jeremy Clarkson — got a chance to get behind the wheel of the Corvette Z06 on the latest episode of TopGear. First, Clarkson races a line of burning gasoline. Next, he demonstrates how the car's enormously powerful engine lets it go from 0-175 mph in 5th gear. He even takes a shot at the North American pronunciation of "Aluminum." He says the Z06 doesn't "feel like an American car" and while the it may not have the most "sophisticated" handling, its brute force makes it very "controllable." Lastly, Clarkson compares the Z06 to a Ferrari 575, and attempts to figure out why there's a six-figure price gap between the two. In the end, he concludes that the Z06 is simply not enjoyable to drive on the road, despite the fact that it matches the 575 in every way on the track. On the track, the Z06 beat the Lamborghini Murcielago, Ferrari F430, and came very close to the Porsche 911 GT3. Full video after the jump…

...... He was in like 4th gear while I was making it through second.....

you heard him shift to 4th? i was guessing you won't even hear him shift to 3rd because he was so far away:evil2 j/k

you heard him shift to 4th? i was guessing you won't even hear him shift to 3rd because he was so far away:evil2 j/k

Yeah, he was really far behind me, but I had my windows down so I could hear him. :shifty

Yeah, he was really far behind me, but I had my windows down so I could hear him. :shifty

so you were ahead?:eek: :D

I am slowly RS modding my car now..got the aero done at least lol..I had not actually watched it untill yesterday..


What is the difference between a regular GT3 and an RS version?

..but everyone thinks it's like Chuck Norris and can bend skyscrapers with his pinky..

Chuck Norris could beat a Z06 and a GT3...


























...In a Yugo.

awsome story.......i was excited for a minute thinking you had a crazy boosted 318 but then i read your death <8- P
the Z06 is a amazing machine, so is the GT3. end of story.

since when did you need a GT3 to learn new driving skills? my slowest worst car taught me more than either of my other cars have. a 1989 honda civic standard (4 speed manual transmission, about 70hp of super pissed sound, and drums in the rear).
while i love my E30, i miss my MKII golf for the same reason i miss my civic, its very low weight.

Despite the Z06's supposed superiority over the GT3, performance-wise, I'd still take the latter any day. I'd much rather have the German car, due to its more refined look and feel. I would hate to sit in Chevrolet's crap interior all day... the Z06 would most certainly not be my DD. ;)

I'm not a fan of american cars, but you gotta give credit where it's due, that car is the best bang for the buck performance wise

wow i mean i love my brother's vette and it is a 2000. the seats move 50 different ways and the interior is just fine. and when you are driving a fast car, why do you need to be "refined"? preference i guess. to each his own.

so you were ahead?:eek: :D

Of course I was ahead. 318's are stupid fast.

Of course I was ahead. 318's are stupid fast.

i don't know why i even asked you that stupid question, i should have known:buttrock :worship:

Despite the Z06's supposed superiority over the GT3, performance-wise, I'd still take the latter any day. I'd much rather have the German car, due to its more refined look and feel. I would hate to sit in Chevrolet's crap interior all day... the Z06 would most certainly not be my DD. ;)

HaHa... I just noticed the car you drive! If I had a 91 318 with a MoMo knob, I would also hate to have to drive a Z06 everyday. :lol

awsome story.......i was excited for a minute thinking you had a crazy boosted 318 but then i read your death <8- P
the Z06 is a amazing machine, so is the GT3. end of story.

since when did you need a GT3 to learn new driving skills? my slowest worst car taught me more than either of my other cars have. a 1989 honda civic standard (4 speed manual transmission, about 70hp of super pissed sound, and drums in the rear).
while i love my E30, i miss my MKII golf for the same reason i miss my civic, its very low weight.
Try driving a highly factroy tuned street/racecar with the motor in the back..

The RS has a little more hp and better suspension components. It has a better flywheel and comes with race seats and a lot more..
I can get the extra hp with a new exhust and chip..415hp..

HaHa... I just noticed the car you drive! If I had a 91 318 with a MoMo knob, I would also hate to have to drive a Z06 everyday. :lol

Yeah, you're funny pal...why don't you do stand-up? :rolleyes

BTW, it is an E30, NOT an E36, for the record. Different animals, as I've said a few times already.

Yeah, you're funny pal...why don't you do stand-up? :rolleyes

BTW, it is an E30, NOT an E36, for the record. Different animals, as I've said a few times already.

Damn, if only I had the refined interior of a 318...

Damn, if only I had the refined interior of a 318...

Heh, I bet my E30's interior is more refined than your Z06 will ever be. But, I do acknowledge that, conversely, your Z06 is faster than my 318 will ever be. :D

(AND IT'S AN E30, NOT AN E36, FOR THE RECORD. 1992 AND UP ARE E36's!)

your Z06 is faster than my 318 will ever be. :D

(AND IT'S AN E30, NOT AN E36, FOR THE RECORD. 1992 AND UP ARE E36's!)


Ahhh, just slightly faster. But, you could take me in the twisties :lol

Ya know the 997GT3 cup car comes with a 996GT3 motor..lol
I just found that out..
Hey if rocking Ozzy with yer mullet comming out the sunroof is your thing, then go for the Vette..roffle..

I don't have the time to read this whole thread but a couple of things...

The 997GT3 Cup Car s/b at over 405hp. The 996GT3 is 385hp. There have been changes. Why would this be funny anyway?

The comparison in Speed GT is invalid due to the weight differentials and restrictors the cars have. But, it does tend to show there is no replacement for displacement...

The C6 Z06 is NOT in Speed GT. There are NO 427ci Vettes in Speed GT.

Its 381 hp and you can get 415hp out of it if needed..just thought it was funny at the time and the cup cars must be tuned up from 381. It could be a rumor..It might make sense because the mechanics know the motor,availability of parts and current engine programs avilable to race teams.
The only C6Z06 competing I know about is in pro solo and it has yet to beat the GT3s times.
I never said a ZO6 was in SWC.
I said Vettes and I was talking about the fact than when they get on tracks like Long Beach they have an advantage because it turns into a drag race.
You need to read before you post.

i am curious if most of you fellas have ever sat inside of a vette( besides those of you that own them)? i mean, i have and i like the interior just fine. you all are making it out to sound like the vette has an interior like a tercel, when in fact it has all the functions or more then all of you cars( save a few of you).

one more thing, do any of your E30's or E36's or E46's have the LED speedo show up in their windshield? or perhaps the side bolsters on your seats can move in and out as you please to keep you nice and snug in your seat while you are takin a corner fast? or maybe the bottom and top of your seats where your back rests can move in and out to give you different comfort levels? perhaps all of your cars have a removable glass top? or maybe you can tell from a touch of a button what your tire pressure, mpg, range of miles left to go, and a whole host of other things that are for the most part not available on most of your cars? look all i am saying is that just cause you drive a BMW doesn't mean that Chevy can't make a fast car that looks good on the inside) especially compared to an E30 or E36!)

if you want to see a car that doesn't have a nice interior then sit inside a Viper and then you will understand. some of you cats make me laugh.

now of course vaders interior is abit nicer then a vette's, but his car is a bit more expensive as well.

is there a stock car with 500hp that can turn a 1/4 in mid 11's beside the ZO6?

vader you and i both know that i make love to your car in my mind at least 5 times in an hour, but the ZO6 is more then just a straight line car. that car handles very well( perhaps not as good as yours with equal drivers, but perhaps that could be argued).


Another thing I think everyone has failed to notice is the price range of these cars. How many cars out there can you get for the price of a Mustang or even a vette not necassarily the Z06 that will perform as well as they do? Maybe if I was a rich asshole like vader id buy a GT3 but at my current income a 2nd hand Vette is one of the best cars i could afford.

Edit looks like m3chaser did, and seriously he makes some good points US cars arent the shit boxes all you people make them out to be. In many ways especially when it comes to maintance cost and affordability they blow german and many other foreign cars out of the water. Quite hating on the US espicially those of you who live here.

The issue of the C6Z being the best bang for the buck has been brought up several times.

i am curious if most of you fellas have ever sat inside of a vette( besides those of you that own them)? i mean, i have and i like the interior just fine. you all are making it out to sound like the vette has an interior like a tercel, when in fact it has all the functions or more then all of you cars( save a few of you).

one more thing, do any of your E30's or E36's or E46's have the LED speedo show up in their windshield? or perhaps the side bolsters on your seats can move in and out as you please to keep you nice and snug in your seat while you are takin a corner fast? or maybe the bottom and top of your seats where your back rests can move in and out to give you different comfort levels? perhaps all of your cars have a removable glass top? or maybe you can tell from a touch of a button what your tire pressure, mpg, range of miles left to go, and a whole host of other things that are for the most part not available on most of your cars? look all i am saying is that just cause you drive a BMW doesn't mean that Chevy can't make a fast car that looks good on the inside) especially compared to an E30 or E36!)

if you want to see a car that doesn't have a nice interior then sit inside a Viper and then you will understand. some of you cats make me laugh.

now of course vaders interior is abit nicer then a vette's, but his car is a bit more expensive as well.

I have to agree somwhat.
I Been in a C6 vette and the interior is not as bas as some of the people here make it sound. Though it has a little to much plastic used in some parts, its fit & finish was alot better than some of the older german cars of the 90s' and older that i seen. I been in an older Porsche 928S that sort of smelled like a dead cow inside, and its interior looked as it was assembled by drunks or crack-heads. Though most of the american cars do have a cheap, rough interior, their more expensive cars like the Vette arent' as bad as some make it out to be. Concidering the price again, its not bad at all. GM could have easily built a better, more refined interior, but the price would be higher.

I sat in a C6 Z06at the SF auto show and interior was miles ahead of the E36, so I don't know what all you tools with old BMW' are talking about. Even Porsche interiors are dull and boring. They are always black and dreary and the leather reminds me of the leather in a Ford mustang. But anyone who buys a Vette or a Porsche for the interior is making the wrong purchase.

My interior is faster than your interior.

Its 381 hp and you can get 415hp out of it if needed..just thought it was funny at the time and the cup cars must be tuned up from 381. It could be a rumor..It might make sense because the mechanics know the motor,availability of parts and current engine programs avilable to race teams.
The only C6Z06 competing I know about is in pro solo and it has yet to beat the GT3s times.
I never said a ZO6 was in SWC.
I said Vettes and I was talking about the fact than when they get on tracks like Long Beach they have an advantage because it turns into a drag race.
You need to read before you post.

You need to understand the rules and restrictions of each model in SWC GT class before you claim it's simply a drag race. Check out the top 5 results at each track. Last year a C6 won at Sears Point, speaking of tight tracks. This year a 911 1st and Archer's Viper Comp Coupe in 2nd.

Usually the car will be "tuned up" vs. the street version anyway.

The drag race comment came direct from a buddy of mine and swc racer james sofranes (gt3) refering to the long straight at long beach. I understand swc as I have been involed with the gmg guys for about 5 years..

James is a great racer, been watching him for years. It's is a "drag race" on the straights at lots of tracks.

James is a great racer, been watching him for years. It's is a "drag race" on the straights at lots of tracks.

Yeah GMG has come along way. This season has been his best so far.

here is one of the OG cars...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/GMGTECK.jpg

Now they have these..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gmga4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gmgairimrock.jpg

I had ta ad this, new GT3 interior mods today..
Porsche Tequipment carbon fiber GT3 door sills and GT3 embossed storage lid cover..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gt3cover1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gt3cover2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vader13/gt3cover.jpg

I couldn't read the whole thread without asking Vader if he thinks his 996 GT3 can keep up with a C6 Z06 on ANY course longer than 1 minute in length that isn't a bunch of 30mph loopy-loop corners?

I run a lot of tracks in Texas and particularly the DFW metroplex and right now the C6 Z06 cars are just romping on everything on the road courses around here. Put some stickies, flush the brake fluid, and out run most anything. Do aftermarket brakes, long-tube headers, cam, and tune plus the aforementioned and I woudn't even be that concerned about an Enzo or Carrera GT. I know that sounds ridiculous, but these cars absolutely scream.

As comparison, I've run my old bolt-on '01 337rwhp C5 with big R compounds against an excellent driver running a GT3 with slicks (not R compounds, but race slicks) and he was just barely quicker than me. My old C5 is nothing compared to the new C6 Z06.

I couldn't read the whole thread without asking Vader if he thinks his 996 GT3 can keep up with a C6 Z06 on ANY course longer than 1 minute in length that isn't a bunch of 30mph loopy-loop corners?

I run a lot of tracks in Texas and particularly the DFW metroplex and right now the C6 Z06 cars are just romping on everything on the road courses around here. Put some stickies, flush the brake fluid, and out run most anything. Do aftermarket brakes, long-tube headers, cam, and tune plus the aforementioned and I woudn't even be that concerned about an Enzo or Carrera GT. I know that sounds ridiculous, but these cars absolutely scream.

As comparison, I've run my old bolt-on '01 337rwhp C5 with big R compounds against an excellent driver running a GT3 with slicks (not R compounds, but race slicks) and he was just barely quicker than me. My old C5 is nothing compared to the new C6 Z06.

With 505 hp & 0 to 60 in about 3.7 secs in such a light car it should run with or better than most out on the road.

Yeah, I think we know at this point that the C6 Z06 screams. It's a sweet car for the money. But this thread serves absolutely no purpose at this point. It's just quibbling.

I couldn't read the whole thread without asking Vader if he thinks his 996 GT3 can keep up with a C6 Z06 on ANY course longer than 1 minute in length that isn't a bunch of 30mph loopy-loop corners?

I run a lot of tracks in Texas and particularly the DFW metroplex and right now the C6 Z06 cars are just romping on everything on the road courses around here. Put some stickies, flush the brake fluid, and out run most anything. Do aftermarket brakes, long-tube headers, cam, and tune plus the aforementioned and I woudn't even be that concerned about an Enzo or Carrera GT. I know that sounds ridiculous, but these cars absolutely scream.

As comparison, I've run my old bolt-on '01 337rwhp C5 with big R compounds against an excellent driver running a GT3 with slicks (not R compounds, but race slicks) and he was just barely quicker than me. My old C5 is nothing compared to the new C6 Z06.

In addition did you guys see the latest R&t and C&D shotouts? I was really surprised how poorly the 997 TT did. The Ford GT and z06 were pretty impressive although I am not an American car guy.

ok i am going to say that i would skeet on the C6 ZO6 instead of the Lambo, but that is just me. i think it is one of the sexiest cars on the road.

vader i loooove the interior on the car bro. let's be honest here, the first night that you had the car you skeeted on the inside and outside of it didn't you? look, it's ok. noone will judge you.

don't forget to giggety gig after your done

Do you live in a town with like 100 people or something? I dont understand how you would cum upon seeing a GT3... I live in a fairly big town in a somewhat affluent area and see 911TT Gallardos/Murcielogos Ferrari 360/430's/ Astons/ on a daily basis, and have never "skeeted" on myself... Saw a SLR broke down on the side of the road the other day, but guess what? I did not "skeet" on myself...

Do you live in a town with like 100 people or something? I dont understand how you would cum upon seeing a GT3... I live in a fairly big town in a somewhat affluent area and see 911TT Gallardos/Murcielogos Ferrari 360/430's/ Astons/ on a daily basis, and have never "skeeted" on myself... Saw a SLR broke down on the side of the road the other day, but guess what? I did not "skeet" on myself...


:lol :eatpop:

The GT3 owns you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and nice looking bimmer.

x2 end of story. the jealousy is abundant in this thread methinks....:rolleyes

Do you live in a town with like 100 people or something? I dont understand how you would cum upon seeing a GT3... I live in a fairly big town in a somewhat affluent area and see 911TT Gallardos/Murcielogos Ferrari 360/430's/ Astons/ on a daily basis, and have never "skeeted" on myself... Saw a SLR broke down on the side of the road the other day, but guess what? I did not "skeet" on myself...

Dallas = tons of high rollers :buttrock

Put some stickies, flush the brake fluid, and out run most anything. Do aftermarket brakes, long-tube headers, cam, and tune plus the aforementioned and I woudn't even be that concerned about an Enzo or Carrera GT. I know that sounds ridiculous, but these cars absolutely scream.


Let me quibble here. Stock F430 and Gallardo both posted better lap times in the aforementioned R&T issue than a stock Z-06 and all the magazines are choosing the SRT-10 Viper coupe over the Z-06 as a track car.

Not concerned about an Enzo or C-GT? Put slicks on those and you have a car that can run with the GT3 RS-Rs in the American LeMans series. Corvettes don't even compete in that class. S/b awesome to see if Speed GT allows them, though....

Yes, the Z-06 is simply AWESOME but it's not the MASTER OF ALL CARS.

Done quibbling...

Don't be so upset your GT3 is outdated Vader. The 996 body style is disgusting anyway. Do us all a favor and shove that wing up your 3" diameter asshole.

Oww is someone butthurt, bumping an old joke thread..awww..

Don't be so upset your GT3 is outdated Vader. The 996 body style is disgusting anyway. Do us all a favor and shove that wing up your 3" diameter asshole.

:lol

Its begining to look like an old AMC Pacer... :rofl :mechstuck

yeah unlike the outdated slow E46M 1/2 clown 1/2 retard does not even seem to be able to afford a car..lmao

yeah unlike the outdated slow E46M 1/2 clown 1/2 retard does not even seem to be able to afford a car..lmao

:lol
( its funny to see an non-BMW pacer-look-alike driver get his underwear all bunched up in a knot here on the BMW forums. Is your butt-hole really 3 inches diameter ! ? :moon :rofl :rofl :rofl ...now i need another beer..:drink3

Don't be so upset your GT3 is outdated Vader. The 996 body style is disgusting anyway. Do us all a favor and shove that wing up your 3" diameter asshole.


:eyecrazy um.....wtfbbq?

:lol
( its funny to see an non-BMW pacer-look-alike driver get his underwear all bunched up in a knot here on the BMW forums. Is your butt-hole really 3 inches diameter ! ? :moon :rofl :rofl :rofl ...now i need another beer..:drink3

You do need another beer..
Then cut your head off and throw it in the trash.

lol :popcorn:

nice change in topic. As far as i know we where talking about street cars, not race cars.


Then we should drop the argument because the GT3 is pretty much a street legal race car, along with the c6 zo6

lolz.Then we should drop the argument because the GT3 is pretty much a street legal race car, along with the c6 zo6

Then we should drop the argument because the GT3 is pretty much a street legal race car, along with the c6 zo6

Dang... i still had lots of popcorn & beer left too. :beer :eatpop:

That is my view as well........I want a car in my garage that is just brutally fast, mean, and sounds like sex on wheels. Basically I just described the Z06 w/ mods. Actually that would be the Z06 stock.

re: Top Gear, the idiot smoked the hell out of the tires on the launch and was all over the course. A better launch alone would have beat the GT3 time. GT3 w/ a serious hp deficit put up a good time though.


no offense to anyone, but what is all this top gear bashing? I agree they are super biased, but not on the test track. Thats why they have a race driver (the STIG!) do their lap times, to squeeze out every bit of performance out of the cars. To those of you who watch the show, are you really suprised by any of the results on the "Top Gear Power Lap Board"?

And for a control, The Stig puts a faster lap time down than: Mark Weber, Damon Hill, and Nigel Mansell, in the exact same car.

no offense to anyone, but what is all this top gear bashing? I agree they are super biased, but not on the test track. Thats why they have a race driver (the STIG!) do their lap times, to squeeze out every bit of performance out of the cars. To those of you who watch the show, are you really suprised by any of the results on the "Top Gear Power Lap Board"?

And for a control, The Stig puts a faster lap time down than: Mark Weber, Damon Hill, and Nigel Mansell, in the exact same car.


...And still Top Gear is an over-biased comedy show, along with the fact that Vader has a tiny wee-wee along with a mountain-sized ego, because he drives a high performance VW bug.... :redspot

...And still Top Gear is an over-biased comedy show, along with the fact that Vader has a tiny wee-wee along with a mountain-sized ego, because he drives a high performance VW bug.... :redspot

I've seen worse from some people driving M3s around here. :la

I've seen worse from some people driving M3s around here. :la

Yes and i drive my sunday car that is a sawed-in-half datsun, which has a donkey for an engine. (see my sig)
That should qualify me to have a big ego. ( i still have a big wee-wee though.... :buttrock :alright

Who wants a time out for personal attacks?