Hey all, i was just wondering if anyone knows were i could get a set of Angel Eyes for an e21 323i, ive looked around but havnt had much luck, hopefully someone could be of some assistance.:help

Cheers
Duane.

please no.

haha whats wrong with angel eyes?

They are ghey. Particularly on cars that have no business having them.

ahh well everyone's intitled to thier opinion, but if any body does know were i can find some please let me know.

Cheers
Duane.

ahh well everyone's intitled to thier opinion,Yes, yes you are. I however think you will have a awfully hard time finding someone here to share it with.

Yes, yes you are. I however think you will have a awfully hard time finding someone here to share it with.

Jordan what are you doing on the e21 board - slumming?

Anyway, they do make MK II Golf Angel eyes, that can be adapted to the e21.
Do I like them...nope. I agree with you they are crap.

I too (although I don't often admit it) used to own a e21. I've got some experience.

I too (although I don't often admit it) used to own a e21.
....jackass....

thanks for that jjgbmw323 im not 100% sure on getting them , but im just looking for some that i can get at a good price, so if i dont like them i wont be to worried that i wasted my money.

thanks for that jjgbmw323 im not 100% sure on getting them , but im just looking for some that i can get at a good price, so if i dont like them i wont be to worried that i wasted my money.
Man I consider flicking pennies a waste of money.:stickoutt It's your ride, so you can do whatever you want. I don't know of any for the E21, but that doesn't mean you can't find some.

Im pretty sure there has never been an e21 to sport these, and I hope there never is.

I think it would look pretty tacky, but I've seen ones for the E30. You could make those fit pretty easy if you wanted.

I will personally travel to the house of anyone that has E21 angel eyes scream at the top of my lungs and proceed to bash the living crap out of the headlight lenses with a large blunt object of my choosing.... possibly my penis.

I will personally travel to the house of anyone that has E21 angel eyes scream at the top of my lungs and proceed to bash the living crap out of the headlight lenses with a large blunt object of my choosing.... possibly my penis.

Ouch, you might hurt his ears...

mmm. seen them with E30 elipsoids and it looks pretty good, would angel eyes be such a big step from those?

3.8L,

Give me some more pics and info on V6 install and I'll tell ya where to get them :)

you might see it in some magazines when its done, then you will have all the pics and info you need :) ,ill try and get some pics up in a week after interior and paint is finnished.

whta are angel eyes?

whta are angel eyes?
headlights like this:
http://perso.orange.fr/team2fast4u/ebay_anneaux/photos/4.jpg
Jake

Angel Eyes... - swat it to the ground:smash

I too (although I don't often admit it) used to own a e21. I've got some experience.


HAH!...he must be 1 of..."THOSSEE" guys.

:nono :shifty

Hmmm i dont think i will be going with the angel eyes on my car, thought it would be different and look good, but with all the people saying they look crap, i guess i wont get them them, and plus i dont really want to be screamed at and have my car damaged so ill forget i even posted this thread up, ok cool, goodbye :)

Duane

hmmm, i was thinking of gettin angel eyes for my car... and some snake eye windsheild washer sprayers, you know, to fake people out into thinking it's a new bimmer.

Jeez, I didnt see anywhere in the first post where he asked for peoples opinions on angel eyes. :rolleyes

I think a guy by the name of davethedog on Tricord's forum has them. Check the thumbnails section of the owners' area. The car is Kashmir Metallic, has stretched tires, etc. They're not my taste, but I'd much rather see a restored e21 with angel eyes on the street than a busted e21 in a scrapyard...whatever 3.8l does with his car is fine with me as long as he keeps it on the road.

Okay, okay, I draw the line at ADR triple-tiered wings...

please find a picture of that...i looked on tricord....nothing

Jeez, I didn’t see anywhere in the first post where he asked for peoples opinions on angel eyes. :rolleyes

You’re going to get them whether you ask for them or not, it’s the way it is in a forum. I didn’t bash him for it but yes I did give an opinion when it was not asked, so I do apologize. If you really want them, I know a guy on here who sells a kit for the E30, which will work for our cars. I have no idea of the quality however. All we can suggest is guidance take it how you want, and don’t let us detour you from what you want to do to your car. After all variety is a good thing. Many people just have a strong opinion about this since its not period correct nor does it belong on any car but a "modern BMW", in fact I think it only belongs on the 5 series, but such is life. I honestly don’t think it will look bad but the fact that they would be on there bothers me in ways not easily explained.

I've made some weird decisions with my car before I knew anything about forums. People’s advice and guidance have led me to make my car better and more enjoyable. I assure you, if it was not for this forum my car would NOT be what it is today. There have been some times when people have not agreed with my choices, but as they say, it’s my choice, and I'll make that decision on my own merit.

hmmm, i was thinking of gettin angel eyes for my car... and some snake eye windsheild washer sprayers, you know, to fake people out into thinking it's a new bimmer.

Why would you want to do that, when the E21's you can turn in all different directions and soak ppl on the side of the road, or cars in front/to the side of you in windshield washer fluid?

hmmm, i was thinking of gettin angel eyes for my car... and some snake eye windsheild washer sprayers, you know, to fake people out into thinking it's a new bimmer.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL GOLD!:lol

Why would you want to do that, when the E21's you can turn in all different directions and soak ppl on the side of the road, or cars in front/to the side of you in windshield washer fluid?
You mean kindof like when a dog pees on something to mark it's territory?!?!....heh.....heheh.....hell yeah.....

You’re going to get them whether you ask for them or not, it’s the way it is in a forum. I didn’t bash him for it but yes I did give an opinion when it was not asked, so I do apologize. If you really want them, I know a guy on here who sells a kit for the E30, which will work for our cars. I have no idea of the quality however. All we can suggest is guidance take it how you want, and don’t let us detour you from what you want to do to your car. After all variety is a good thing. Many people just have a strong opinion about this since its not period correct nor does it belong on any car but a "modern BMW", in fact I think it only belongs on the 5 series, but such is life. I honestly don’t think it will look bad but the fact that they would be on there bothers me in ways not easily explained.

I've made some weird decisions with my car before I knew anything about forums. People’s advice and guidance have led me to make my car better and more enjoyable. I assure you, if it was not for this forum my car would NOT be what it is today. There have been some times when people have not agreed with my choices, but as they say, it’s my choice, and I'll make that decision on my own merit.


Um. I agree with CJ's and others opinon that angel eyes on the e21 are crap.
FK makes a set of 7 rounds for the A2 GTI, and can be retrofited to our cars.
But, I dont like it.

later,
J

ive realised that its bloody hard to get the lens off the head lights to fit angel eyes into the light, and i dont want to put them on the out side of the light because thats just retarded, so if any one knows a way to get the lens off the ligth easyily could they help me out a bit cheers.

Duane.

hey, i found dave the dogs car...are you sure he has them? they look good to me if those are it in the pictures! here:
http://e21.tricord.be/members/davethedog/2.JPG

Zoom in on the pic in Photoshop. The lights appear to have round "tubes" in them to create the angel eyes. That's what they look like to me, though I'm not 100% on it.

i can see the rings! they look good to me! i actually wanted to do the same thing when i redo my car.

:confused

honestly, what looks bad about that?

You'll get your answer once you remove your sig

cj....dont approve of my new sig?

bf.c hates animated sigs... I found that outmyself, expect a disabbled signature

bf.c hates animated sigs... I found that outmyself, expect a disabbled signature

And many bashings to come

fine, i will get rid of it! but, now i get my answer cj!

fine, i will get rid of it! but, now i get my answer cj!

I'm not sure about you but you dont think the "angel eye" on the intake side looks a little odd? And I do believe these are mounted on the outside of the lights. IMO, well, you get the idea...

I already gave my explanation 15 posts up.

Aren't you in australia? you have city lights on your car don't you? I really like the city lights, makes a similiar glow effect of the angel eyes but without the ring, and they belong on the car too boot....

Now I just have to figure out how to change the bulbs in my city lights since one is burned out, which does make the Baur look wierd....

ive never had my head lights turned on in my car, its hasnt been on the road yet, and ive got no idea if there city lights or not, can some one post a pic up of there head lights turned on from a front veiw so i can see how they look and if any one has a pic of an e21 with angel eyes that are turned on can they post that up to please

Cheers Duane.

You’re going to get them whether you ask for them or not, it’s the way it is in a forum. I didn’t bash him for it but yes I did give an opinion when it was not asked, so I do apologize. If you really want them, I know a guy on here who sells a kit for the E30, which will work for our cars. I have no idea of the quality however. All we can suggest is guidance take it how you want, and don’t let us detour you from what you want to do to your car. After all variety is a good thing. Many people just have a strong opinion about this since its not period correct nor does it belong on any car but a "modern BMW", in fact I think it only belongs on the 5 series, but such is life. I honestly don’t think it will look bad but the fact that they would be on there bothers me in ways not easily explained.

I've made some weird decisions with my car before I knew anything about forums. People’s advice and guidance have led me to make my car better and more enjoyable. I assure you, if it was not for this forum my car would NOT be what it is today. There have been some times when people have not agreed with my choices, but as they say, it’s my choice, and I'll make that decision on my own merit.

Well said. But I recalled during 2003 you did ask about E30 angel eyes for E21 in this forum but I guess, yeah people can change.

I have my own opinion on this matter, I mean I don't really care much about period correct or whatever people want to call it, also BMW purist or whatever. Why we modify our car so much and spend alot of money and time on it (in the first place) if we really do worry much about period correct and purity... We might just go ahead and keep our car to an absolute standard. No aftermarket, no decent steering wheel, sports seat (E30 seat), sports wheel, LEDA suspension, coilovers (because it wasn't made during the period and because it isn't genuine BMW parts) or whatever you name it. Remember Jared's car...

Remember all these tuners (Zender, Kamei, Schnitzer, Alpina, Hella, so on) were considered aftermarket back in the days and in no way associated with BMW. We never blame and get sick of them because they've made nice parts and good-looking E21s the world has ever seen. If some small, not popular tuners made sh*t fugly parts we start bashing them, calling them riced out, not period correct, bla bla bla (take an example, the square headlight kit for E21).

Don't get me wrong but I do prefer E21 to be simple, clean and neat. Its just that I get sick with some people who bash others about their cars being riced out, not period correct or whatever while infact these people cars aren't period correct either.

I guess this is purely just a matter of how far/extreme you really want to go. It just a matter of what you want to make your car to be, do whatever makes you satisfied not others!

I guess instead of having to worry about this, its better to focus on how we appreciate our car, making it last longer on our road and make people aware of it.

honestly, what looks bad about that?
They arent turned on yet.

I'm not sure about you but you dont think the "angel eye" on the intake side looks a little odd? And I do believe these are mounted on the outside of the lights. IMO, well, you get the idea...



yeah, because a cover where a high beam headlight is a perfect representation of normalcy....

ive never had my head lights turned on in my car, its hasnt been on the road yet, and ive got no idea if there city lights or not, can some one post a pic up of there head lights turned on from a front veiw so i can see how they look and if any one has a pic of an e21 with angel eyes that are turned on can they post that up to please

Cheers Duane.

Lights off, ignition off, turn on your indicator.

yeah, because a cover where a high beam headlight is a perfect representation of normalcy....
Its function serves a purpose would you not agree?

CJ, don't you have the French H1s now?
Jake

CJ, don't you have the French H1s now?
Jake

Yes

yeah, they are hot. If I ever get my e21 back on the road, I'm totally Yellow Lamin-X-ing my E1s (actual Euros!)...
Jake

CJ, don't you have the French H1s now?
Jake
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/jjgbmw323/DSC00638.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/jjgbmw323/DSC00639.jpg
To each his own,
But there is no way with the color of my 323i, I am going to
have yellow lights, or angel eyes. They both look yucky.

My lights are the euro ones.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/jjgbmw323/DSC00638.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/jjgbmw323/DSC00639.jpg
To each his own,
But there is no way with the color of my 323i, I am going to
have yellow lights, or angel eyes. They both look yucky.
yeah, I don't think that the French headlights would look good on a red car...

My lights are the euro ones.
you have a Euro car...
Jake

you have a Euro car...

Yes, but these are not my original lights,
these where special ordered from the fatherland and are the
ones the 323i had over there.

Yes, but these are not my original lights,
these where special ordered from the fatherland and are the
ones the 323i had over there.

You could have ordered them from Minnesota for 1/2 the price :)

You could have ordered them from Minnesota for 1/2 the price :)

When I get this car up and running we will compare them.
I dont think they are the same...Bro.

When I get this car up and running we will compare them.
I dont think they are the same...Bro.

Why? Because the same exact Hella E1 E-Code made in Germany H1 and H4 lights are sold in the USA? Dont bother about comparing, I'm telling you they are the EXACT same units.

yeah, mine are E1s, probably the same lights too...
Jake

Why? Because the same exact Hella E1 E-Code made in Germany H1 and H4 lights are sold in the USA? Dont bother about comparing, I'm telling you they are the EXACT same units.

I want to see for myself.



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From: DuckRyder <DuckRyder@att.net> Mailed-By: att.net
To: E21 BMW <e21bmw@gmail.com>
Date: May 1, 2005 9:00 AM
Hi Joe.

The true Euro lights do not use H4 bulbs. (True Euro lights are what I sold you, along with the correct harness.) They are all H1's.

IIRC, and it was a long time ago, they have genuine BMW (Osram) bulbs, and the high beams have 100w, while the low have 55w. (I could be wrong, they may all have 55).

They are such a huge step up from sealed beams, the higher wattage bulbs are not really needed IMHO.

GOOD LUCK with the car, it is looking good!

Joe not to go to far off tangent but do you know what E-code means? I never heard of the euros coming only in H1 form, so I can not vouch for this. But the only difference between an E-code H1 and H4 is the latching mechanism on the rear end of the light housing. They both have the same exact beam pattern. I also believe an H4 is going to throw a hotter light beam. Take that for what its worth. If you want to compare why must you wait till your car is running? From looking at your pic we have the same exact lights all the way around.

Joe not to go to far off tangent but do you know what E-code means? I never heard of the euros coming only in H1 form, so I can not vouch for this. But the only difference between an E-code H1 and H4 is the latching mechanism on the rear end of the light housing. They both have the same exact beam pattern. I also believe an H4 is going to throw a hotter light beam. Take that for what its worth. If you want to compare why must you wait till your car is running? From looking at your pic we have the same exact lights all the way around.

Well, I cant tell too much, the car is in the garage, and I cant see it that well. My dad's garage is not that big. I have never even driven it with the new headlights and what not, but I can tell you that they appear to be different from my old ones.

Duckryder got them from europe with the wiring harness and everything.
He paid a grip load for them, but the new guy who got his 323i wanted the single headlight setup so thats how I got them.

Sure they are different. One set actually breathed European air.:stickoutt

Sure they are different. One set actually breathed European air.:stickoutt

What do you mean homes, mine say Hecho en Alemania ;)

What do you mean homes, mine say Hecho en Alemania ;)
Is that Mexican :dunno

Is that Mexican :dunno

:rofl nope its spanish, I guess that joke went sour, but seriously it says made in Germany. I was trying to communicate that they have breathed Euro air since they were produced in "Alemania". See what I did there?

yeah, I don't think that the French headlights would look good on a red car...
I agree, they're also pretty hairy when they don't shave and they smell like elderberries.:D

photoshop it

do

it

now lol

now lol

Dont be a dick. :embarrasm

wonder if anyone can pick the difference with mine?

http://madhatter.idx.com.au/gallery/bmw/3er/e21/project/images/IMG_1582.jpg

http://madhatter.idx.com.au/gallery/bmw/3er/e21/project/images/IMG_1596.jpg

:redspot

Dont be a dick. :embarrasm

wonder if anyone can pick the difference with mine?

fuck off. im not

Holy crap - are those landing lights or spotlights?

fuck off. im not

4 posts in a row within the space of a minute.. yeah... :rolleyes

Holy crap - are those landing lights or spotlights?

Landing lights :buttrock

150w each of bug frying goodness, guarenteed to turn any patch of night into daylight :stickoutt

They project light bright enough to see the tops of the trees 700m down the road :eyecrazy

Niiiice! Where did you get a set of those?

4 posts in a row within the space of a minute.. yeah... :rolleyes



Landing lights :buttrock

150w each of bug frying goodness, guarenteed to turn any patch of night into daylight :stickoutt

They project light bright enough to see the tops of the trees 700m down the road :eyecrazy
Seriously how hard are they to fit in and wire up i am up for doing this. Perhaps just high beams. That will teach those SUVs:evil2

Read the part numbers off the back of the light housings you noobs. Jesus.

I have H3's in the 5 inch centers on my big small setup. They are like spot lights and beam down the road pretty well. I use them as "passing" lights.

4 posts in a row within the space of a minute.. yeah... :rolleyes





okk.. my bad. sorry.

okk.. my bad. sorry.

You have not added one shred of information or importance to this entire thread. You are wasting space on this thread. Refrain from further posting until your brain has a cognative thought that we all would like to know about. Good day to you.

Niiiice! Where did you get a set of those?

Local parts store. Should find them stocked at pretty much any auto place.

Seriously how hard are they to fit in and wire up i am up for doing this. Perhaps just high beams. That will teach those SUVs:evil2

Fit right in place. I dont know about the US cars, but ours have seperate relays and fuses for the head lights (ie, each bank). The wire is already fairly thick on them, each high beam draws 12.5 amps, so given the wire fitted it would have been able to handle the increase in current. However, i didnt like trusting 20 year old wiring, so i picked up a roll of 15 amp wire and replaced the sections from the relay to the light, and checked the section from the relay to power.

Ive only got high beams, no way in hell i would replace the low beams with those too.

Crap pic (no flash, -1.7 exposure to reduce the flare), but it shows them working

http://madhatter.idx.com.au/gallery/bmw/3er/e21/project/images/IMG_1610.jpg

Filament takes about 2-3 mins to totally cool down and go out after use, you cant put your hand within about a 6 inches of the light with them on, burn you otherwise (dont even think about touching the lense). Just a bit of a tip, the better the brand the longer the light will last, cheaper brands will see them burn out in a number of months, mine have been in for 3 years now with about 18 months of solid use. Live out in the country so bright lights are just so much better when driving home at night (especially because it lights up the side of the road so much better, so you can see animals before they leap out).

and police hiding on the side of the road:)

and police hiding on the side of the road:)
Its too many candlewatts for the other guy who is driving on the other side of the road. So in MA that = ILLEGAL and the POPO will pull you over.:mad

200m in aus...or when u see other headlights, u dip hi beams down

200m in aus...or when u see other headlights, u dip hi beams down
yeah, it's like, 600ft in Florida, which is about 200m, but honestly, who can judge 600ft at night? I agree with the second way of telling, but most people don't give a damn about anyone else...
Jake

americans for you eh? :stickoutt

yeah, fucking assholes...
Jake

yeah, it's like, 600ft in Florida, which is about 200m, but honestly, who can judge 600ft at night? I agree with the second way of telling, but most people don't give a damn about anyone else...
Jake

200m is pretty easy. Its just courtesy to dip your lights to oncoming traffic as soon as possible.

I'll go out and take a picture of my city lights once I get the other bulb replaced...looks funky with only one on, then I'll wait for it to get dark and go snap a picture....


Should get dark about mid August....

thats insane..i wouldn't be able to sleep