So i was searching around and talked to a few people and i was told that you cant run a super or turbocharger on an e30 m3 because of its high compression is this true?

There's atleast one turbocharged e30 m3 on s14.net, anythings possible with a little $$$

you can supercharge them, but they are high compression engines. If you go with F/I expect to spend some big $$$$ to modify the internals to accept it.

Pretty much ditto what they've said. Anything is possible with $$$, but the S14 is a pretty expensive engine to work with. Outside of the $$$ you might drop doing it, the S14 can take some serious boost with the right internals, and have the numbers to match it.

swap an m52 in and boost it

I wanted to be able to keep up with my friends e36 and keep the stock motor without any swapping , all he has is an exhaust and he smoked me thats why i asked about the turbo/supercharger, i think i might just go with a chip full exhaust and air intake then spend about 3k on suspension and 2 on brakes but thanks for letting me know if it cant be done or not.

Here a link to a turbo E30 M3, this thing is mean!

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8058192191091499613&q=E30+M3

With the right mods you can make some serious power and hang with a lot of cars, maybe not in a straight line but hit the twisties and its all over!! Have fun!

well i believe that the e30 m3 on a road course could do better then the e36 maybe im wrong but its just my opinion but i do know one thing
the e30 m3 is a hell of a lot more fun then an e36

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yea, i know for a fact there is a few turbo e30 m3 on that form.

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the e30 m3 is a hell of a lot more fun then an e36</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

My brother owns an e30 m3.. He drove my e36.. He said he likes his car is alot more fun to drive then the e36. aNd alot of ppl will agruee with you on what you said.

yeah dont get me wrong the e36 is deffinetely faster but i believe that the e30 is more fun

If you are looking for that type of power the S14 isnt your bag baby.

It is a lightweight high strung race motor, designed to be nimble and agile.

You can go FI but it would be much more expensive than boosting a S/M50/2

In the long run you would be better off with a different engine. Pull the S14 sell it and invest in a larger motor.

There are plenty of Turbo'd s14's; some of the guys in Europe have 600+ to the wheels. However if you have an E30 M3 set up for great handling and tell your buddy that is car is common and yours is rare and better.

Tyler

Dude, just lower the compresion. On a engine you increase the volume that is left when the piston is at top dead center. You can do this a few different ways 1) Increase the volume of the combustion chamber by removing a known ammount of material from the chamber 2) Putting a small dish (known volume) in the center of the piston. You dont want to remove material from the edges because then you mess up the squish band and the motor wont run worth a shit. When you remove material from the top of a piston you have to be carefull not to remove more than the piston can handle. You need about 10% (crown thickness) of the diameter if the pistons. Usually not a problem. 3) Thicker head gasket. Bad idea because it masses with the squish band. Just drop the compression and then BOOST AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suggestion:

If you want power, put a s50 or s52 engine= will cost about $5,000 with everything. If you can do the labor-great, if not add $1500-2000.

There's nothing like a 6 cyl M engine if you want smooth, quiet power-satisfying power-if you know of anyone who has done the conversion, ride it in and you decide...first time I drove one, my smile went all the way to my ears:)

Sell S14 engine between $3-4,000 depending on mileage....or you custom turbo which will end you costing more than the conversion

Purists will say dadadada...I only consider purists when they keep "everything" stock even the wheels, shiftknob, bulbs, etc:redspot

im no purist but i like the car to still have the essential powersupply it came with im not a big fan of the swaps on e30 m3s maybe on like a 95 318is or something but i gotta keep the great 4 banger in the e30 just because its one of the most well built motors ive seen , show me another 4 cylinder without a turbo charger or supercharger that makes almost 200 horsepower

it will be hard to do thats why i dont want to put a conversion in

In my opinion no matter what type of car, a PURIST is one who keeps the car entirely stock from shift knobs, to bulbs, to wheels

If you upgrade your wheels, I see a car no longer "pure", I think same thing applies to changing the engine, why many ppl are getting so bent out of shape about it - I think of jealousy - co'z they can't afford it-to each their own:redspot

Just put this into it.
http://www.behindmatrix.com/e30/fotost/f00017/8.jpg

this is the reason why i joined, to find out if anyone has suprcharged there E30 M3 as this is something i want to do and i have been quoted £8000

If u want to go turbo go with a M20 OR S52,then go with a Technique Tuning turbo kit for the S52,if u want big power go custom, for M20 u can go custom buY the 666 Fab. Manifold.

If u want to go supercharger go with a S52, s/c kit: VF, Eurobhan,RMS,AA

Thats what im planing on doing once a find an E30 M3.

im no purist but i like the car to still have the essential powersupply it came with im not a big fan of the swaps on e30 m3s maybe on like a 95 318is or something but i gotta keep the great 4 banger in the e30 just because its one of the most well built motors ive seen , show me another 4 cylinder without a turbo charger or supercharger that makes almost 200 horsepower

it will be hard to do thats why i dont want to put a conversion in

S2000 is a 4 banger isn't it?

S2000 is a 4 banger isn't it?

yes, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Just about every japanese 4cyl performance car now has 200hp or are close to it.
I.E.
Civic SI
Acura Integra type R
Acura RSX Type S
etc...

It's true that a lot of Japanese 4-bangers now make 200hp or almost that much, but raw HP isn't everything. Few other 4-bangers are as refined and composed as the E30 M3; let's put it that way. :)

Besides, Japanese 4-bangers (with the exception of the S2000) are FWD... and as we all know, FWD is ftl.

yes, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Just about every japanese 4cyl performance car now has 200hp or are close to it.
I.E.
Civic SI
Acura Integra type R
Acura RSX Type S
etc...

I think he was speaking about the era it was created in. Anyway you are right, many 4cyl today will out power our 2.3L .... just one more reason to go for a large displacement (say 2.5L).

IMHO the only way to go with these babies in terms of serious Hp is to go to a 2.5L rebuild. I am convinced just rebuilding a stock enging after 20 years will probably produce quite a difference on the 'butt dyno'.... let alone a 2.5l.

I think he was speaking about the era it was created in. Anyway you are right, many 4cyl today will out power our 2.3L ....

Really? I disagree. Read this from the post and decide yourself. If era was his intention, he worded it really badly.

"but i gotta keep the great 4 banger in the e30 just because its one of the most well built motors ive seen , show me another 4 cylinder without a turbo charger or supercharger that makes almost 200 horsepower."

i was also looking at purchasing an e30 keep the 4cyl and hop it up on crack witht the turbo but it looks like its gonna have to be a custom turbo set up something that i have no clue how to do. do you guys know any people in the area of PA who knows what they r talking about

you can superchage a s14, ERT has/had a nice kit. I have one of ntheir kits in my attic awaiting my re-build. ERT states 290hp and I have driven the car that my kit came off of and its very nice power until the engine blew up at Road Atlanta and the owner decided to do a 2.5 instead of going the s/c route again. Now I have a real nice 91 m3 street car and a 95 m3 also. The 2 cars are very different. i Love both cars. the e30 FEELS better and fits like a glove. Its a drivers car. the e36 is faster and if faster is what you crave (buy a Mustang). One real issue with the s14 and supercharging is that the s14 don't have a knock sensor and ANY detonation will BLOW up a s14. you MUST run the s14 really rich to avoid this.

Besides, Japanese 4-bangers (with the exception of the S2000) are FWD... and as we all know, FWD is ftl.

Actually there's one that I know of that is mid rear =)