Hosting Organization(s) CCR-SCCA
Event Type Autocross
Event Date(s) 17-Jun-2006 to 18-Jun-2006
Event Description/
Schedule This is a special non-points event being hosted on the go-kart track in the infield of Lowes Motor Speedway. The track has been freshly resurfaced and will provide an excellent challenging autocross.

Central Carolinas Region will be hosting this autocross in conjunction with it's Club Race at the speedway. There will be several racing activities throughout the day Saturday!

Sunday will have another set of special events, details to come soon. Please visit www.ccrscca.com (http://www.ccrscca.com)for the latest details!

Register at www.myautoevents.com (http://www.myautoevents.com). Search CCR and chose Lowes Motor Speedway event.

Saturday Autocross Specifics:
Registration: 7:30-9:00am
Tech: 8:00-9:30am
Drivers Meeting: 10:00
First Car Off: 10:15

Cost:
$30 Non-Members
$25 CCR, SCCA, or NCAC club members
(Membership cards required for discount)
No late entries will be accepted at this event!
Event Location Lowes Motor Speedway (Charlotte Motor Speedway)
Street Address 5555 Concord Pkwy. South
City Concord
State or Province NC
Postal/Zip Code 28027
Location Description
Driving Directions www.mapquest.com
Maximum Entries 150

Visit www.ccrscca.com (http://www.ccrscca.com)for details on the Sunday June 18 event. Details to be announced soon.

Track is in infield between NASCAR turn 3 and 4, and there will be an SCCA sports car racing event
taking place on the big circuit at the same time.

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Just registered. This will be my first auto-x. I can't wait!

I registered in STS. That is the correct class for my mods right? (mods in sig)

I may be nit-picking but unless the car came with that LSD, which I don't think the 4 doors did, you aren't eligble for STS. I don't even think you're allowed to do it in DSP either which is very unfortunate but I'll let John speak on this one. It's so hard to come up with a build sheet on an older e30 anyway to prove whether it had one or not, I doubt it would be contested. Besides, it's a non-points event and your first autocross, just go have fun, classing isn't that important at this stage. Meet some people and enjoy the driving.

Just registered. This will be my first auto-x. I can't wait!

I registered in STS. That is the correct class for my mods right? (mods in sig)

Welcome aboard to a fellow Mooresville resident.:buttrock You're about to get hooked!

8Ball is right about the LSD in STS. It is not allowed even if it came stock on the car.

There are also a couple of questions about mods for which there is incomplete info in your list, but the LSD takes you out of STS anyway.

Wheels - wider than 7 1/2 inches is not allowed in STS
Tires - Must be no wider than 225
Brakes - are ok if they are not oversized


All of your mods are appear to be legal in DSP. A locking LSD is allowed, and it doesn't matter whether or not your car had it from the factory.

Your options for classes would include D Street Prepared or D Street Prepared Novice. There is a DSP Tire class as well, but for your first event you should probably run Novice class.

This will give you the opportunity to perhaps ride with - or have someone ride with you on some of your runs.

Since this is a non-points event, there should be plenty of opportunities for that.

Find 8Ball when you get there. He really knows how to put an e30 through its paces, and our Bimmerforums group usually has a course walk-through or two before the start of the event.

Just look for the best looking guys at the event....that will be us..:)

John, I might be able to go to this. I am going to try and get the wife to go and bring both the Z's. I got to make sure we are free that weekend I do not know our schedual. If I cannot get there untill late I may just come and watch.

Oh and welcome to the fellow Mooresville resident.

Anyword on what Sundays events are going to be?

John, I might be able to go to this. I am going to try and get the wife to go and bring both the Z's. I got to make sure we are free that weekend I do not know our schedual. If I cannot get there untill late I may just come and watch.

Oh and welcome to the fellow Mooresville resident.

Good, Daniel. Come on out even if you can't run.

There will be an SCCA racing event going on the big track at the same time, so there will be plenty to see. But be forewarned....you don't have to enter to get bitten by the "bug.":)

Anyword on what Sundays events are going to be?

Yes, Sunday's event will be open to SCCA members only (yes that means SCR, too), and the entry fee will be $5.00.

It will be an autocross - probably higher speed than usual but I'm not sure - and it has been "hinted" that there will be a "special PAX" designed to boost cars on street tires.

So far.....that's all I know....I'm not sure even Steven knows for sure yet, but whatever it is, it will be fun....:)

Yes, Sunday's event will be open to SCCA members only (yes that means SCR, too), and the entry fee will be $5.00.

It will be an autocross - probably higher speed than usual but I'm not sure - and it has been "hinted" that there will be a "special PAX" designed to boost cars on street tires.

So far.....that's all I know....I'm not sure even Steven knows for sure yet, but whatever it is, it will be fun....:)

You going to be there? Im tempted to go........like REALLY tempted. :devillook

And is it $5 for sunday if you run BOTH days, or just $5 on sunday no matter what?

Darn I wish I could stick around for Sunday to see how that special pax goes for those of us under-privileged on street tires. How is it going to work John? There's probably not even going to be any cones since it's on track? Will there be worker positions?

You going to be there? Im tempted to go........like REALLY tempted. :devillook

And is it $5 for sunday if you run BOTH days, or just $5 on sunday no matter what?

I believe that will be $5 for Sunday without regard to Saturday. Registration is separate for each day.

This is considered a member appreciation day, and I think they are going to have some prizes as well.

Darn I wish I could stick around for Sunday to see how that special pax goes for those of us under-privileged on street tires. How is it going to work John? There's probably not even going to be any cones since it's on track? Will there be worker positions?

There will be cones on the course, becuase somehow we will have to make it a Solo event and not a Track Trials event, but since speed is somewhat limited by the kart track size, I'm sure they will be limited in number.

There will be cones on the course, becuase somehow we will have to make it a Solo event and not a Track Trials event, but since speed is somewhat limited by the kart track size, I'm sure they will be limited in number.

Is there a seperate online registration page for sunday? I couldnt find it.

I'm registered, sounds like great fun and an exciting course. Not sure about Sunday yet as I'm not a SCCA member, and may not be able to make the drive twice in one weekend.

Who else is in?

Jbyrd,

To answer your questions...

1. My TSW's are 7" wide.
2. Tires are 205-60-15 Michelin Pilots
3. Brakes are stock size ATE Powerdiscs w/stock pads in front and stock pads & rotors in back with stainless lines all around.

Well, guess I'm changing classes then. Thanks for the help!

Jbyrd,

To answer your questions...

1. My TSW's are 7" wide.
2. Tires are 205-60-15 Michelin Pilots
3. Brakes are stock size ATE Powerdiscs w/stock pads in front and stock pads & rotors in back with stainless lines all around.

Well, guess I'm changing classes then. Thanks for the help!

Definately DSP legal.

I'd also run novice if this is your first event. Evens the field some and still can compare your times to other DSP guys.

Cool. Yeah, I'm definietly running novice. What's funny is I just saw another Mooresville E30 guy I know running DSP Novice on the entry list. So I'll have someone to compare against, sorta. He's got a 2.7 stroker in his car and stiffer suspension so he'll probably run alot faster than me.

Cool. Yeah, I'm definietly running novice. What's funny is I just saw another Mooresville E30 guy I know running DSP Novice on the entry list. So I'll have someone to compare against, sorta. He's got a 2.7 stroker in his car and stiffer suspension so he'll probably run alot faster than me.

His car definately isnt in DSP if its stroked. Its a SM car.

Jbyrd,

To answer your questions...

1. My TSW's are 7" wide.
2. Tires are 205-60-15 Michelin Pilots
3. Brakes are stock size ATE Powerdiscs w/stock pads in front and stock pads & rotors in back with stainless lines all around.

Well, guess I'm changing classes then. Thanks for the help!

The only thing I see keeping you out of STS is the LSD, but you fit into DSP nicely.

And BimmerboyZ3 is right...your friend is actually an SM car at the very least.

I'm registered, sounds like great fun and an exciting course. Not sure about Sunday yet as I'm not a SCCA member, and may not be able to make the drive twice in one weekend.

Who else is in?

Good Don....I hope you get to meet Chuck Palmer who runs an M coupe in CCR.

Is there a seperate online registration page for sunday? I couldnt find it.

Since it's just for members, I believe they are not going to have a pre-reg but keep checking. I also believe there will be a limit # of entries for this one, but again, I know nothing....

Just ask on Saturday morn.

btw....nothing can happen at the speedway on Sundays until noon as I understand it.

Since it's just for members, I believe they are not going to have a pre-reg but keep checking. I also believe there will be a limit # of entries for this one, but again, I know nothing....

Just ask on Saturday morn.

btw....nothing can happen at the speedway on Sundays until noon as I understand it.

I wont be there on sat. I have work. But I have sunday off.

BTW - there are a couple of threads in the CCR forum (at the webite) http://www.ccrscca.com that may have more info than I see to know right now.

At any rate, that's where the late breaking news will be first.

I'd love to get a ride in that e30 stroker if possible.

I'd love to get a ride in that e30 stroker if possible.

Strokers are for women..........TWIN SCREW BABY! *hint hint* :stickoutt

A couple dumb questions before Saturday.

Can I join the SCCA and SCR region at a CCR event? Or would it be better to wait for the next SCR event?

Since Dustin and I were talking about tire pressure last Saturday, should I add some air to my tires and try a different pressure? They were at 39 frt & rear between runs Saturday. Have no idea what I am asking here, just thought I may try something.

Thanks

A couple dumb questions before Saturday.

Can I join the SCCA and SCR region at a CCR event? Or would it be better to wait for the next SCR event?

Since Dustin and I were talking about tire pressure last Saturday, should I add some air to my tires and try a different pressure? They were at 39 frt & rear between runs Saturday. Have no idea what I am asking here, just thought I may try something.

Thanks

I'd wait for a local event to play with pressures. Im not sure if there will be any different pressures since this may be a higher speed situation. But John can ultimately chime in.

No clue about hte SCR @ CCR thing.

Any race is really a good time to play with pressures and learn how the tires respond, high or low speed. You were driving extremely smooth at the Fairgrounds so I'm not sure if you're that clean or you're just not pushing the car to the edge yet. It's all about feel and if you feel the car is turning in as nicely as you like or breaking loose to early on the exit of a corner then 1 psi changes in tire pressures at one end of the car will tell you alot about if it's your driving or the tires screaming for mercy. Thereagain, most of your runs were so smooth I can't really make a suggestion. If you feel the car is well balanced but you're trying to find speed you can drop all 4 wheels 1 psi at a time and see if you feel better about it, just be sure to watch your sidewalls to ensure you're not rolling over. I was always taught to run the least amount of pressure necessary to keep the tires from rolling off the tread. If you have scuffs beyond the tread on the sidewall then it's time to add 1 psi and then you know thats the bottom. All tires are different tho because these stupid Azenis have been running better and more predictable at slightly higher pressures than the minimum.
Bottom line, until you play with your pressures you just don't know what you're missing out on. It's a big test to find the best configuration and it's one of the easiest changes you can make.

A couple dumb questions before Saturday.

Can I join the SCCA and SCR region at a CCR event? Or would it be better to wait for the next SCR event?

Since Dustin and I were talking about tire pressure last Saturday, should I add some air to my tires and try a different pressure? They were at 39 frt & rear between runs Saturday. Have no idea what I am asking here, just thought I may try something.

Thanks

Don, you will probably want to wait until an SCR event, unless you want to be a member for Sunday. CCR is not equipped to register you for SCR.

If you do want to play on Sunday, get contact infor for SCCA from scca.com and give them a call. I believe you can probably make it happen with a phone call and a credit card.

However, if you join at an SCR event...you will not have to pay the entry fee for the event. That saves you $30 up front, and $10 per event thereafter.

As for tire pressures, I would probably go up to 42 all around in your car. If it seems "skitterish," you can start taking some out of the questionable end of the car. Just a guess, but if Palmer is there on Saturday, he may have a better idea for your M than me.

Thanks guys for the help and suggestions. I'll try changing tire pressure and see what happens.

I think what you see as smooth is actually that I'm not pushing the car hard enough, (slow). I have not found that edge where the car is at it's limits and still looks smooth, that is still a long way off. I look at my times and feel that I am not agressive enough, then try to push harder on the next run and the times slow down. I have a looong way to go and a lot to learn, but I am having a lot of fun.

Thanks again.

Just repeat this 3 times when you pull up to the line: "Slower is Faster, Slower is Faster, Slower is Faster" Calm yourself down, aim to enter the turns slower than you think you need to. Usually if you are trying harder and running slower it's because you're pushing the turns instead of gliding thru them. Slow down you entrance to the turns and you're times will magically get better.

Thanks guys for the help and suggestions. I'll try changing tire pressure and see what happens.

I think what you see as smooth is actually that I'm not pushing the car hard enough, (slow). I have not found that edge where the car is at it's limits and still looks smooth, that is still a long way off. I look at my times and feel that I am not agressive enough, then try to push harder on the next run and the times slow down. I have a looong way to go and a lot to learn, but I am having a lot of fun.

Thanks again.

Don, believe me. It's better to start off in this sport driving smooth and fast. When you are driving properly, you will get faster with experience.

It's much easier to learn to be fast while driving smoothly, than to "un-learn" the "art" of pushing too hard.

You are getting faster each time out, and as you learn more about your limits and limitations, you will get even faster.

There's still a lot to learn about setups and limits. Continue to be patient, and you will be rewarded. You already have been.

Don, believe me. It's better to start off in this sport driving smooth and fast. When you are driving properly, you will get faster with experience.

It's much easier to learn to be fast while driving smoothly, than to "un-learn" the "art" of pushing too hard.

You are getting faster each time out, and as you learn more about your limits and limitations, you will get even faster.

There's still a lot to learn about setups and limits. Continue to be patient, and you will be rewarded. You already have been.

Exactly, you've improved a ton. It doesnt feel like it inside the car, but from watching you, its damn obvious. :alright

The Sunday Members Only Event registration is now up.

CCR SCCA Members Only Registration (http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=5660&psrnd=.14784523185670353141451691176915838593)

The Sunday Members Only Event registration is now up.

CCR SCCA Members Only Registration (http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=5660&psrnd=.14784523185670353141451691176915838593)

REGISTERED! :alright

REGISTERED! :alright

Will no longer be attending this autoX. Had some very major personal life issues come up that I need to handle and I wont have my head in the game at all to autox. Sorry fellas. Run some good times for me. :(

Sorry to hear you are having issues, hope you get it sorted out soon.

Wish everyone could have made it, amazing autox (mini road course) on Saturday.

Sorry to hear you are having issues, hope you get it sorted out soon.

Wish everyone could have made it, amazing autox (mini road course) on Saturday.

Glad you had a good time. Hope you did well and learned a lot. Its one more step to getting faster. Seat time is key.

Im sorting out my issues, its gonna take some time and some help & support from friends/family. Ask me about it in person at the next autox or via email/PM and I'd be happy to explain further, just not comfortable discussing my personal/social life over the boards.

Hope all is well with others. Be seeing you guys at the next AutoX. :alright

Well I totally missed this one too. I wanted to go so bad but some crap came up that was more important. Hopefully this will be done again next year.