View Full Version : UUC - Breaking the $1000 Big Brake Kit price.
Rob Levinson 05-24-2006, 03:44 PM SPECIAL OFFER EXTENDED THROUGH 7/27/06!
NEW BRAKE PACKAGES FOR 1992-2005 3-series/Z3/Z4 and E36 M3:
(Coming soon for E46 M3 and E90!)
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/PBC/images/s6f300.jpg
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/PBC/images/Superlite6_700.jpg (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/PBC/images/s6f700.jpg)
STAGE 2 KIT: Front-only Superlite 4-piston (choice of 1-piece or floating 325mm rotor). Recommended for DE and BMW CCA Prepared* class racing. Retains correct front/rear brake bias with original rear brakes (must specify model when ordering).
STAGE 3 KIT: Four-wheel kit using Superlite 4-piston (optional 6-piston) front and matching Superlite 4-piston rear (choice of 1-piece or floating rotors, 325mm front and 328mm rear). Ideal for Prepared*/Enduro racing, maximum amount of brake torque and pad thickness front and rear. Correct front/rear bias retained (must specify model when ordering).
* BMW CCA Club Racing Prepared class rules specify that 4-piston version is legal.
For more details, options, pricing, and pad options, please visit our website:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc
Pricing starts at $1099... subtract $100 with the introductory offer for Bimmerforums members for the
$999 Big Brake Kit special!
Incorporating the real-world needs of racers and street car enthusiasts, UUC offers a "rationalized" brake package that uses premium Wilwood Engineering components for better braking, lighter weight, and idealized front/rear brake bias, all in an affordable package with the largest offering of performance street and race pads available.
The latest innovation in our Stage2 and Stage3 brake kits is the use of the larger E46 M3 rotors. This gives you the choice of affordable 1-piece "standard" rotors or race-ready genuine BMW Motorsport floating rotors... and replacement rotors are never further away than your local BMW dealer or favorite parts reseller!
SPECIAL FOR BIMMERFORUMS.COM MEMBERS!
Take $100 off any UUC/Superlite E36/E46/Z3/Z4 brake package until 6/14/2006. Use coupon code "SL100" or click this link to activate coupon:
http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/?Coupon=SL100
Wilwood incorporates a variety of innovative and time proven performance enhancements in its caliper designs. They include forged or high-strength billet construction, differential piston bores, high temperature seals, SRS Squeal Reduction and bridge reinforcement plates, internal heat shields, quick access pad retention, shock dampened fluid tubes, and center bridge bolts (features vary by model).
For more details, options, pricing, and pad options, please visit our website:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc
jonjon0nline 05-24-2006, 04:07 PM Noice!
cpcalkins 05-24-2006, 04:41 PM My stage 3 kit should be shipping this week... Rob was great with pointing me in the right direction with this kit and should be nothing but great results with UUC's great reputation and superior quality products...
Hammdy 05-24-2006, 07:43 PM hey Rob, do you know when you're gonna have more of the red tranny mounts in stock? I need some soon.
spez7 05-24-2006, 10:41 PM damnnn this seems like a deal, definatly wut i've been looking for.
If i wasn't so broke :(
forrest 05-24-2006, 11:13 PM Rob,
I pre-ordered the 4 wheel BBK awhile back. I had the ACS wheels and ordered the 6 piston fronts for clearance reasons. Will I have any problems fitting the superlite 4 in the rear? also, when I ordered you said they are only available in black(6 piston), is this still the case?
328iJunkie 05-24-2006, 11:34 PM UUC you rock my face, too bad im broke.... cant even afford M brakes.... Are these rotors bigger than Ms?
Turbo ///M50 05-25-2006, 10:53 AM Any data available for how well these improve breaking.. is the stopping distance reduced at all
Is the pedal modulation the same
Rob Levinson 05-25-2006, 11:46 AM Any data available for how well these improve breaking.. is the stopping distance reduced at all
We're tabularizing data on stopping distances and, more importantly, the repeatability and temperature stability of hard braking.
Remember that the purpose of any type of brake kit is primarily improving the repeatability of hard braking (avoiding heat-induced brake fade), improving modulation and pedal feedback, and increasing longevity while hopefully reducing weight.
Is the pedal modulation the same
Nope, not the same. It's better! Once the pads are bedded in, pedal firmness increases and modulation is more precise.
- Rob
Rob Levinson 05-25-2006, 11:48 AM Rob,
I pre-ordered the 4 wheel BBK awhile back. I had the ACS wheels and ordered the 6 piston fronts for clearance reasons. Will I have any problems fitting the superlite 4 in the rear?
The rear always has more clearance in the 3-series. You should have no problem at all.
also, when I ordered you said they are only available in black(6 piston), is this still the case?
I just got an update that we should be getting red calipers next week. If you'd like to switch, please call me directly (908-874-9092).
- Rob
Rob Levinson 05-25-2006, 11:51 AM Are these rotors bigger than Ms?
E36 M3 rotor sizes:
front - 315mm
rear - 312mm
E46 M3 sizes as used in the UUC Stage2 (front) and Stage3 (4-wheel) kits:
front - 325mm
rear - 328mm
- Rob
gerry_miranda 05-25-2006, 12:05 PM For the 2 wheel BBK setup...
Are the included steel lines for all 4 wheels?
Are the pads for all 4 wheels?
Any extra deals getting rear rotors?
Rob Levinson 05-25-2006, 12:37 PM For the 2 wheel BBK setup...
Are the included steel lines for all 4 wheels?
Are the pads for all 4 wheels?
All kits (front-only or 4-wheel) include stainless steel braided lines for all four corners of the car.
We can supply matching rear pads.
Any extra deals getting rear rotors?
Yes - 15% off OE-fit rear matching slotted rotors. We will be offering drilled in the near future that will pattern-match the floating fronts.
Please call if ordering rear OE-size rotors if you have a 323 or 328 - some models require fitment verification using the VIN or production date.
- Rob
Rob Levinson 05-30-2006, 01:29 PM UPDATE:
It has been called to our attention that there was a mistake in the database pricing on the 4-wheel kits. Pricing has been corrected.
- Rob
e30sd 05-30-2006, 01:56 PM you guys dont make e30 kits anymore?
Furious 05-30-2006, 08:36 PM omg im seriously thinking about this.. Rob i assume you guys make this for all e36 models?
on a side note where did you find that signature e30sd? maxbimmer? i think a guy on max made that.
bimbum 05-31-2006, 07:27 AM hoo ha I gotta' check this section more often!
gerry_miranda 05-31-2006, 09:13 AM All kits (front-only or 4-wheel) include stainless steel braided lines for all four corners of the car.
We can supply matching rear pads.
- Rob
hOW MUCH FOR A MATCHING bp-10 FOR THE m3 REARS?
Rob Levinson 05-31-2006, 12:29 PM omg im seriously thinking about this.. Rob i assume you guys make this for all e36 models?
Yes, available for all E36 M3/328/325/323/318.
hOW MUCH FOR A MATCHING bp-10 FOR THE m3 REARS?
BP-10 is not available for the rears, but we recommend the Hawk Performance Ceramic which has nearly identical properties. Cost is $68/set.
- Rob
EvilOne 05-31-2006, 02:41 PM rob if i were to buy one of the rear kits on here for my 95 m3 would it work with my existing BBK...i have one of the SSBC 14" front bbk
Tony@Bekkers 05-31-2006, 03:23 PM Awwww, Rob!!!!!! My wife has me on lock down, I can't order anything right now!!!!!! Good luck with the sale, not like you will need it with that kind of pricing.
Rob Levinson 05-31-2006, 04:38 PM rob if i were to buy one of the rear kits on here for my 95 m3 would it work with my existing BBK...i have one of the SSBC 14" front bbk
We can configure a rear kit to match. Please call me directly to set that up (908-874-9092).
- Rob
Rob Levinson 05-31-2006, 04:44 PM Awwww, Rob!!!!!! My wife has me on lock down, I can't order anything right now!!!!!! Good luck with the sale, not like you will need it with that kind of pricing.
I just don't know, Tony... how about we refinish a set in black with no logo at all. Your wife will never notice! :D
- Rob
PJ Steamboat 05-31-2006, 04:46 PM Awesome price, wish I had the money/need for these.
Balthazarr 06-01-2006, 02:32 AM Almost had me Rob. Very close, indeed.
Great pricing, but before brake upgrade I need some gauges.
nice looking setup you have there Rob.
gerry_miranda 06-01-2006, 09:45 AM BP-10 is not available for the rears, but we recommend the Hawk Performance Ceramic which has nearly identical properties. Cost is $68/set.
- Rob
This was on the Wilwood site:
Plate D396: - 16.0mm, .63" Thick
Compound: Axle Set Part No.
BP-10: 150-9007K
Interchange: 0396.**.17.04
HB227.630
Calipers: OEM - BMW D396 Type Rear
JetBlack328IS 06-02-2006, 06:01 PM 97 328IS
Interested in getting a set, front and rear. Looked at the web site, looks like the only one front and rear and for the M cars.
Rob Levinson 06-02-2006, 06:08 PM 97 328IS
Interested in getting a set, front and rear. Looked at the web site, looks like the only one front and rear and for the M cars.
It's available for your car... click here:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/PBC/fitments.htm
4-wheel kit for 3-series (not M3) is listed right below M3.
or:
http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/Product476
- Rob
tomas3314 06-02-2006, 06:30 PM I hate you guys.....just when I thought..ahh,finally my car is complete.:( Of course this came up after I just bought a new set of slotted rotors and new pads. This leads me to my question, are the rotors it comes with slotted or x-drilled?
Oh and yes, I love UUC and so does my car...stop coming out with new things for me to buy:stickoutt .
JetBlack328IS 06-02-2006, 06:37 PM It's available for your car... click here:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/PBC/fitments.htm
4-wheel kit for 3-series (not M3) is listed right below M3.
or:
http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/Product476
- Rob
Order placed.
How long is the wait time?
thanks
Craig
Rob Levinson 06-02-2006, 08:08 PM Order placed.
How long is the wait time?
thanks
Craig
Thanks!
At this time, very short... we're awaiting another shipment of calipers from Wilwood, otherwise all other components are ready to go. I anticipate that we will catch up on today's orders by late next week.
- Rob
Rob Levinson 06-02-2006, 08:10 PM I hate you guys.....just when I thought..ahh,finally my car is complete.:( Of course this came up after I just bought a new set of slotted rotors and new pads. This leads me to my question, are the rotors it comes with slotted or x-drilled?
1-piece rotors are slotted, floating rotors are drilled.
Oh and yes, I love UUC and so does my car...stop coming out with new things for me to buy:stickoutt .
Not so sure we can accomodate that request. :D
- Rob
///w3fl3x 06-03-2006, 01:39 AM Wow this is a really good deal.
I would be all over this if i didn't have to get new tires.
Oh thanks again for the adjustable control arm. They finally arrived on wednesday. :)
old skool 06-03-2006, 01:47 AM Congrats on a great kit at a great price. Personally I would like to see rotors with aluminum hats and replacement rings.
Rob Levinson 06-03-2006, 10:26 AM Congrats on a great kit at a great price. Personally I would like to see rotors with aluminum hats and replacement rings.
The Motorsport floating rotors that UUC uses are a "complete replacement" design - you get a new hat every time you replace the rotor, at a much lower cost from BMW Motorsport than the "disk only" cost of aftermarket rotors with other BBKs.
The Motorsport floating technology is really fascinating... very different than what we're used to seeing from other manufacturers. I think you may be looking for the typical bolt-on hat, but the Motorsport rotors have a more technically sophisticated setup.
BMW Motorsport uses a "radial floating" design where the floating connectors between the rotor hat and the rotor disk connect in the center of the disk between the inside and outside face planes. It's a very interesting construction that is not simply "assembled" but built all together at the foundry level.
Click this pic for a larger view:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/images/radial1_tn.jpg (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/images/radial1.jpg)
This is in contrast to the common aftermarket method that can be referred to as "surface floating" - the floating connections attach on the outer face/plane of the disk, effectively a surface contact point.
How this affects the actual heat-transfer and expansion characteristics of the rotor is something that would require in-depth laboratory testing, but the Motorsport engineers must have chosen the more difficult "radial" method for a very good reason.
As a related note, it is not commonly understood that with a 2-piece or typical aftermarket floating rotor, the aluminum hat itself should be replaced about every 2-3 rotor disk replacements - of course, at additional cost. Aluminum is subject to fatigue, so the safety protocol is to replace them after they have serviced 2 or 3 rotors. This is true for any brand BBK using aluminum center hats.
With the BMW Motorsport floating rotors that we use, you get a completely new hat every time you get a new rotor.
Compare the cost difference between a single complete Motorsport floating rotor and the common aftermarket brands' floating rotors complete with hats:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/costs.htm
old skool 06-03-2006, 11:41 AM Impressive research.
RRdawho? 06-03-2006, 11:53 AM How much for the kit if you already have the UUC SS lines for the E36 m3...or are these lines different and required to match the new brakes?
Rob Levinson 06-03-2006, 12:13 PM How much for the kit if you already have the UUC SS lines for the E36 m3...or are these lines different and required to match the new brakes?
The front fittings are different, so you need those no matter what.
If you do not need the rear lines, we can remove them from the kit and deduct 50% of the 4-wheel line kit cost, $50-$60 depending on model.
- Rob
gerry_miranda 06-03-2006, 11:29 PM BP-10 is not available for the rears, but we recommend the Hawk Performance Ceramic which has nearly identical properties. Cost is $68/set.
- Rob
This was on the Wilwood site:
Plate D396: - 16.0mm, .63" Thick
Compound: Axle Set Part No.
BP-10: 150-9007K
Interchange: 0396.**.17.04
HB227.630
Calipers: OEM - BMW D396 Type Rear
Is this not available?
Otherwise I suppose Hawk Ceramic front instead of BP-10 is a no cost swap?
RTG///M3 06-05-2006, 02:10 PM dang do you guys finance? lol
E36Eric 06-06-2006, 12:11 AM This is a very good deal.
If I want the Stage 2 with red calipers and floating rotors, its still $999 for a 93 325i?
What is the shipping cost to 91780?
Rob Levinson 06-06-2006, 11:00 AM This is a very good deal.
If I want the Stage 2 with red calipers and floating rotors, its still $999 for a 93 325i?
Please review all the kit options and pricing here on the website:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/PBC/fitments.htm
What is the shipping cost to 91780?
UPS says $43.31.
- Rob
Rob Levinson 06-08-2006, 08:04 PM Six days left!
- Rob
AbeM3 06-08-2006, 11:42 PM Quit reminding me!
dejablu311 06-09-2006, 01:29 AM I wish the floating rotors were slotted instead of drilled. Since the stage 3 kit uses OEM e46 m3 floaters then would i be able to switch them out for a set of performance friction floaters in the future?
Rob Levinson 06-09-2006, 08:24 AM Since the stage 3 kit uses OEM e46 m3 floaters then would i be able to switch them out for a set of performance friction floaters in the future?
Absolutely, that would definitely work.
- Rob
dejablu311 06-10-2006, 05:38 PM Absolutely, that would definitely work.
- Rob
cool i think i am going to have to go with teh wilwoods. now all i need is money. :(
Rob Levinson 06-15-2006, 10:25 AM New pics uploaded... one of the UUC Motorwerks BMW CCA Club Racing racecars:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/pics.htm
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/E36_JP_AS_0606/images/img_8015.jpg
More pics of the car:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/E36_JP_AS_0606
- Rob
DBinMV 06-16-2006, 01:25 PM Why do you have a BBS sticker on the car when you're using Kosei wheels? :confused
(This car isn't Bambislayer, is it?)
Cool pics - thanks for sharing. What a great way to show off your products. Wish I could afford the brake kit. (At this point I'd be happy being able to afford a SSK...)
DBinMV
Rob Levinson 06-16-2006, 01:32 PM Why do you have a BBS sticker on the car when you're using Kosei wheels? :confused
Very good question! The photography was done before the BBS RKs were delivered. Updated photography will be posted soon.
(This car isn't Bambislayer, is it?)
Nope. This car started as a 325 and was converted to 328 specs.
- Rob
JetBlack328IS 06-20-2006, 12:33 AM Thanks!
At this time, very short... we're awaiting another shipment of calipers from Wilwood, otherwise all other components are ready to go. I anticipate that we will catch up on today's orders by late next week.
- Rob
Do you have the PolyMatrix "Q" brake pads?
Craig
Rob Levinson 06-20-2006, 12:37 AM Do you have the PolyMatrix "Q" brake pads?
Craig
We can get them (and even substitute them for the BP-10 if you wish), but I think you would prefer the BP-10. I've tried both, and it's apparent that the BP-10 does everything the Q does, only better.
As you can see in this graph directly from Wilwood, the BP-10 exhibits greater Cf consistency across the operating range, has better initial bite, and does not fall off at higher temps as the Q does:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/images/pads_eqbp10.gif
Wouldn't surprise me if Wilwood replaced the Q with the BP-10.
- Rob
JetBlack328IS 06-20-2006, 05:03 PM We can get them (and even substitute them for the BP-10 if you wish), but I think you would prefer the BP-10. I've tried both, and it's apparent that the BP-10 does everything the Q does, only better.
As you can see in this graph directly from Wilwood, the BP-10 exhibits greater Cf consistency across the operating range, has better initial bite, and does not fall off at higher temps as the Q does:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/images/pads_eqbp10.gif
Wouldn't surprise me if Wilwood replaced the Q with the BP-10.
- Rob
Will take the BP-10. The reason I asked about the Q was in reading over on there web site, they said it was a low dust one. Which would be handy at times. I just might order a set of Q pads at a later date.
Craig
Rob Levinson 06-20-2006, 05:34 PM Will take the BP-10. The reason I asked about the Q was in reading over on there web site, they said it was a low dust one. Which would be handy at times. I just might order a set of Q pads at a later date.
Craig
No worries; BP-10 is very low dust also, even when used hard.
- Rob
Rob Levinson 06-22-2006, 09:26 AM We had a request for a set with calipers done in a custom silver with the UUC logo:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/images/wilwood_uuc_1.jpg
ParadigmGuy 06-22-2006, 02:38 PM The rear always has more clearance in the 3-series. You should have no problem at all.
Did I read that right or am I taking this out of context? If I go with the Stage 3 PBK I'll have more clearance in the rear? Not a huge concern but I've considered going to a smaller diameter drag wheel in the back.
Also, I read it on your site, but just wanted to verify. This PBK will actually reduce weight in each corner and if I go with floating rotors it will reduce unspring weight also?
What advantage is there with going with a 6 piston over a 4 piston?
I'd been holding off on brakes because I wanted go fast goodies first. I didn't realize that a good set of upgraded brakes WERE go fast goodies. I'll be ordering toward the end of the year when I get back from Iraq.
Rob Levinson 06-22-2006, 03:26 PM Did I read that right or am I taking this out of context? If I go with the Stage 3 PBK I'll have more clearance in the rear? Not a huge concern but I've considered going to a smaller diameter drag wheel in the back.
Sorry, let me clarify; more clearance in terms of offset, not diameter. Specifically, the 3-series has a deeper rear rotor, so there is no issue of the caliper face (the part with the logo) contacting the wheel spokes.
You would still need to use a 17" wheel. In general, with any BBK, you usually need a wheel that is 4" larger in diameter than the rotor.
Also, I read it on your site, but just wanted to verify. This PBK will actually reduce weight in each corner and if I go with floating rotors it will reduce unspring weight also?
The entire brake system is unsprung weight. Yes, the entire brake system per corner is lighter than the original. The floating rotor option saves about 1lb. compared to the 1-piece rotors.
What advantage is there with going with a 6 piston over a 4 piston?
More wheel clearance. The 6-piston caliper we use is a special "narrow body" version that has about 5mm more clearance than the 4-piston. Otherwise, the overall hydraulic "footprint" is the same between the two. The only other functional difference is that the 6-piston "narrow body" uses a thin variation of the Superlite pad... same surface area, but 16mm deep instead of 20mm.
I'd been holding off on brakes because I wanted go fast goodies first. I didn't realize that a good set of upgraded brakes WERE go fast goodies. I'll be ordering toward the end of the year when I get back from Iraq.
Excellent. Let me know if I can help with anything else.
- Rob
Rob Levinson 06-22-2006, 03:33 PM I'll be ordering toward the end of the year when I get back from Iraq.
Military folks... don't forget:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/GOUSA
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/GOUSA/SOT3.gif
(http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/GOUSA)
M Not Z 06-22-2006, 07:10 PM We had a request for a set with calipers done in a custom silver with the UUC logo:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/images/wilwood_uuc_1.jpg
That would great great with all of my other UUC Stuff! Now if I only had the $$$$!
Rob Levinson 06-27-2006, 01:30 PM SPECIAL OFFER EXTENDED THROUGH 7/27/06!
CoolJBad01 06-29-2006, 01:26 AM This might be a silly question, but how does this affect our brake sensors? I so don't want another Check Control light...
Will the 4 piston front kit fit inside the e36 M forged wheels?
Awesome price, awesome product! Time to pool every cash resource available!
Rob Levinson 06-29-2006, 10:30 AM This might be a silly question, but how does this affect our brake sensors? I so don't want another Check Control light...
No effect at all - ABS and DSC 100% functional.
The only thing different (and this is true for virtually all BBKs) is that the brake pad wear sensors are not used (unless you machine a slot into the brake pad backing plate). No lights or anything, you simply move the sensor out of the way.
Will the 4 piston front kit fit inside the e36 M forged wheels?
They will fit, but will require a small spacer.
For all wheel fitment questions, you can download the wheel fitment diagrams from the website. Print the diagram life-size, glue to a piece of cardboard, and then cut it out. Fit it into your wheel to determine fitment and to get an idea if you need a spacer.
FRONT WHEEL FITMENT DIAGRAMS: [4-piston] (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/SUPERLITE4_1_1_TEMPL.pdf) • [6-piston] (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/SUPERLITE6_1_1_TEMPL.pdf)
Fitment check is only required with the front wheels - rear wheels are just about always no problem at all, as BMW rear brakes are set in much further.
Awesome price, awesome product! Time to pool every cash resource available!
:D
- Rob
Rob Levinson 07-17-2006, 10:51 AM Hi Rob,
Is it possible to have the Stage 3 kit now only for the the Front please with the Superlite 6-pistons calipersfor an Euro M3 E36 3.2L please ?
Yes and no.
What you must realize is that all of our systems are designed for optimal brake bias, the amount of braking force front-to-rear required to retain vehicle control under braking. Please read more about this here:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/BIAS.htm
What that means is that our Stage2 "front only" 4-piston kit is not the same caliper as the 4-piston used in the Stage3 "four wheel" kit (with one exception - E46 330). In the Stage3 four wheel kit, the front 4-piston and the 6-piston optional caliper have the same "hydraulic footprint", which is biased correctly to work with the rear 4-piston.
What this means is that if you're using only the front calipers from our Stage3 four wheel kit (either the 4 or 6 piston), you're going to have more front bias than you should.
That's why the Stage2 front only kit uses a 4-piston caliper with specific piston sizes, they are biased correctly to work with your OE rear calipers.
But here's the "yes" part of the answer; you can use the 6-piston only in the front if you use a more aggressive rear pad to correct the bias. For example, you could use the 6-piston with the BP-10 pads as long as you use the Hawk HP-Plus (or similar) rear pad in the OE rear calipers. When switching to track pads, you would use a similarly more-aggressive rear pad, such as a Hawk Blue in front and the Hawk HT-10 or HT-14 in the rear.
We really prefer that you maintain correct bias through mechanical means, specifically the correct caliper choices, so that the same (or similar) front and rear pads results in correct bias. There is nothing wrong with "pad tuning" (as we discuss in the link above), but setting it up mechanically in the first place leaves a smaller chance of error in future pad changes.
And at what price ? And after what will be the rear kit price, after taht I will bought the front kit, with the Floating and perforated 328 mm rotor ?
If you really did want to split up the Stage3 (and were going to use it with the my recommended guidelines for pad choice), we can do that for you. The Stage3 front 6-piston kit with Motorsport floating rotors, SS lines (we include lines for all four wheels), and all the other pieces and BP-10 pads that you need, would cost $1799. If you wanted to add the Stage3 rear kit in the future, it would simply cost the difference in price, $1499. (Please see website (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com) for any price changes if reading this post in the future.)
This might be the right moment for this announcement: what we do have in final development is a Stage2 Rear Add-On kit, an appropriately sized caliper and rotor to turn the Stage2 front-only kit into a four-wheel kit. Caliper and rotor size are smaller than the rear part of the four-wheel kit, but will maintain correct bias with the Stage2 front-only setup.
I hope that helped rather than confused the question!
Rob Levinson 07-18-2006, 12:47 PM Customized with UUC logo, no charge on red calipers:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/images/IMG_8145.jpg
JetBlack328IS 07-23-2006, 10:43 PM Got the front kit in,..was about to start working on putting them on my car when I looked at the code on the side of the rotor.
34 11 2 229 529
01-04 m3 e46 F LH
34 11 2 229 530
01-04 m3 e46 F RH
before I get into pulling apart the stock ones on my car,.. is this e46 rotor the one I should have?
Rob Levinson 07-23-2006, 11:09 PM before I get into pulling apart the stock ones on my car,.. is this e46 rotor the one I should have?
If you ordered the 1-piece slotted rotor option, then that is the correct set of rotors.
- Rob
JetBlack328IS 07-23-2006, 11:30 PM If you ordered the 1-piece slotted rotor option, then that is the correct set of rotors.
- Rob
Was just wondering, becuse of the E46.
When are the rear ones going to be sent out?
order #125672
Rob Levinson 07-24-2006, 11:32 AM Was just wondering, becuse of the E46.
When are the rear ones going to be sent out?
order #125672
Shipping today! Rotors just came in, your kit is being assembled right now.
- Rob
Bav///Man 07-24-2006, 12:07 PM Rob,
Would you recommend going 4 or 6 in the front if wheel clearance isn't really an issue?
Rob Levinson 07-24-2006, 12:27 PM Rob,
Would you recommend going 4 or 6 in the front if wheel clearance isn't really an issue?
Aside from wheel clearance, the only other factors to consider are:
1) The special "narrow body" 6-piston which we use for extra wheel clearance uses a shallower version of the Wilwood bridgebolt Superlite pad, 16mm thick (pad shape 7416). The 4-piston uses the thicker 20mm version (pad shape 7420). Shape is identical other than the depth (technically, you can put the 16mm thick pad in the calipers that accept the 20mm). So obviously, this means longer pad life with the 4-piston. +1 for 4-piston.
2) Wilwood advises that the 6-piston has slightly better pedal modulation. Quite frankly, in the same car with all other identical factors, most people find it impossible to tell. Either one feels so much better than OE anyway! Technically, that's +1 for 6-piston.
3) Appearance... yes, that's an important factor to some people. The 4-piston has more of a typical "BBK" caliper shape, while the 6-piston is somewhat unique and blocky. The 6-piston also has the "6 PISTON" text on the surface. As appearance is valid only from an opinion viewpoint, only your opinion counts. Neutral.
6-piston:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/images/SUPER6RED_small.jpg
4-piston:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/img_8024_small.jpg
Both versions install exactly the same way, use the exact same rotors and brake lines. I would say the choice is up to your personal needs and things you feel important based on 1-3 above.
- Rob
Rob Levinson 08-02-2006, 02:26 PM Another alternative... red with black UUC logo:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/UUC_E36_M3/images/img_8224.jpg
bimbum 08-19-2006, 04:11 AM whoa I'm late and finally getting around to installing. I think I got the wrong washers though, they do not fit over the black bolts to mount the new bracket with. everyone else got them in already? install pics?
update: thanks for the quick reply Ron, I'll wait for your package.
silver36 08-19-2006, 04:55 AM the pricing on this ended right? or is it still going?
The-Great-328ic 08-19-2006, 03:42 PM interested as well
LIL RAJA 08-20-2006, 02:12 PM sweet looking kit bro.
raja
What size spacer is need to use on factory M Round Spoke II?
3two8eye 08-21-2006, 12:41 AM what is the pricing on the custom calipers?
over the $999, if that is still the price, and what colors can be had?
silver with red UUC logo maybe.
bimbum 08-21-2006, 02:35 AM got one side on, good stuff, all beefy components.
thread link (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7259480&posted=1#post7259480
) hope link works, if not see the E36/M3 forum
Rob Levinson 08-21-2006, 12:13 PM What size spacer is need to use on factory M Round Spoke II?
Spacer size varies with wheel width, type, and offset. Many aftermarket wheels do not require a spacer at all, but most OE wheels do. OE wheels typically need a 5mm-20mm spacer.
What we request is that you fit the caliper clearnance template to your specific wheels to avoid any surprises. You only have to do the fronts, rear is practically never a problem.
For 4-piston front diagram:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/SUPERLITE4_1_1_TEMPL.pdf
For 6-piston front diagram:
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/pbc/SUPERLITE6_1_1_TEMPL.pdf
How to use: print the diagram life-size (1:1), glue to a piece of cardboard, and cut out the silhouette. Fit it within your wheel (diagram hub matches wheel hub) and check for necessary clearance space/spacer size.
- Rob
Rob Levinson 08-21-2006, 12:34 PM what is the pricing on the custom calipers?
over the $999, if that is still the price, and what colors can be had?
silver with red UUC logo maybe.
Intro pricing plus the $100 "SL100" coupon code currently in effect:
$999 - black caliper kit
$1149 - red caliper kit
$1300 - Any custom color (please provide paint code or sample), your choice of Wilwood or UUC logo in white, black, silver. We can do a red logo, may add 1 week (2-3 weeks total) for custom order.
- Rob
Would you sell the front black kit without the rotors? If so, how much?
Rob Levinson 08-22-2006, 02:12 PM Would you sell the front black kit without the rotors? If so, how much?
No - you must have the larger rotors, it does not fit with the smaller OE rotors.
- Rob
I already have a set of e46 M3 rotors. That's why I was asking.
No - you must have the larger rotors, it does not fit with the smaller OE rotors.
- Rob
pingou 12-15-2006, 11:36 PM Hi Rob Have you check your mail for my order please ?
vingou@yahoo.com (vinogou@yahoo.com)
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