I mean holy crap... this stuff is just amazing. Theres nothing that it doesn't take off your paint unless you're just too damn slow with it. I've started keeping a bottle in my car, together with a bottle of quik detailer. I just got shat on by a bird, wipped out the quik detailer, then the IHG and bam, not even haze :buttrock

And whats better is that I use Klasse AIO and SG so I don't even need to worry about waxing on top of the IHG after I put it on!:alright

Anyway, I just felt like sharing my love for IHG :D

**Edit: Don't listen to anything I said in that post... its totally wrong and pointless. :rolleyes: **

Careful, it takes off your clear coat. It is heavy duty stuff, and I only use it when I need to strip my wax off to put on some new wax.

My car doesn't have a clear coat, and when I get through the wax, my rag will start turning red (Meaning it is taking off the paint). I would advise against using it for bird droppings!

I use it before I wax with One Grand Blitz Wax. It's a great combo.

I don't think the 88 model year had a clearcoat did it? Everytime we polish/glaze my dad's 89 535i the rag turns black but we've been doing this for 10 years and the thing still shines like new. Also, I have Klasse on the car so the paint is protected from the IHG... some people even use IHG as a topper over their IHG to make it shinier :D

i put a coat of IHG on my car! and it was almost like a mirror! i couldnt comprehend on what it would look like w/ 2 coats of gold class wax on it!!
btw kyle... IHG removes wax, so you need to rewax where you apply.
i keep gold class wax, 15 terry cloths and a bottle of quick detailer, and the obsorber in a duffle bag in my trunk.
i wouldnt use IHG a lot.. its pretty nuts stuff.. ill probably use it once a month or bi monthy... i generally wax bi weekly.

Klasse isn't wax, its a synthetic.... so IHG doesn't remove it. We've had this discussion before people, COME ON! ;)

wel
SORRY!!
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Originally posted by Kyle K.
I don't think the 88 model year had a clearcoat did it? Everytime we polish/glaze my dad's 89 535i the rag turns black but we've been doing this for 10 years and the thing still shines like new. Also, I have Klasse on the car so the paint is protected from the IHG... some people even use IHG as a topper over their IHG to make it shinier :D

Nope, no clearcoat!

Originally posted by Kyle K.
Klasse isn't wax, its a synthetic.... so IHG doesn't remove it. We've had this discussion before people, COME ON! ;)

It's suppose to remove Zaino, which is synthetic. I haven't used it myself but just what I've read.

IHG WILL remove a synthetic if you put it on top of it... The only thing you can/should top a synthetic with is a pure carnauba...

And to whoever said IHG will remove clearcoat...absolutely UNTRUE.... Straight from a retailers website...." Imperial Hand Glaze is nonabrasive, clear coat safe, and contains no wax or silicones."

I think some of you might be confusing IHG with something else....it's fine to use frequently... It's a glaze...it preps the surface for subsequent waxing....

Originally posted by ///M3ryder NY
IHG WILL remove a synthetic if you put it on top of it... The only thing you can/should top a synthetic with is a pure carnauba...

And to whoever said IHG will remove clearcoat...absolutely UNTRUE.... Straight from a retailers website...." Imperial Hand Glaze is nonabrasive, clear coat safe, and contains no wax or silicones."

I think some of you might be confusing IHG with something else....it's fine to use frequently... It's a glaze...it preps the surface for subsequent waxing....

I'm sorry! Geez! :stickoutt It takes off my paint so I assumed that it would take off clearcoat since it is basically a paint too!

Originally posted by Bry


I'm sorry! Geez! :stickoutt It takes off my paint so I assumed that it would take off clearcoat since it is basically a paint too!

Hey man, I didn't mean it in a bad way... I was just trying to be informative... didnt mean offense by my comments...

Keep in mind, clearcoat goes over paint obviously...as a protective layer...so it's more durable by design than bare exposed paint... Perhaps thats why IHG is actually taking off some paint when you use it... :dunno

Originally posted by ///M3ryder NY


Hey man, I didn't mean it in a bad way... I was just trying to be informative... didnt mean offense by my comments...

Keep in mind, clearcoat goes over paint obviously...as a protective layer...so it's more durable by design than bare exposed paint... Perhaps thats why IHG is actually taking off some paint when you use it... :dunno

No harm done :)

Yes, the clearcoat is more durable, I wasn't thinking about that. I think the reason why so much paint comes off when I use the IHG is due to the fact that the paint is old and oxidized, and those parts of the paint come off pretty easily (keep in mind that my car didn't come with a clearcoat). The paint is almost 15 years old, but I think it is pretty normal, it's not like the paint is flaking off.

Ahh... I forgot about this thread ... ooops

Anyway, I've washed my car a couple times since putting the IHG over the Klasse and I haven't been able to see any noticeable difference in the way water sheets off the paint there and in places where I haven't used the IHG :dunno

Either way I doubt its too big of a deal though (in my case anyway), because I usually throw a carnuba topper (Blitz.. the chalkiest wax ever:() on top of the Klasse every two weeks or so... what can I say.... I'm anal :D

IHG is only supposed to last between 7 and 10 days...

Originally posted by Ben Carufel
IHG is only supposed to last between 7 and 10 days...

What do you mean? It isn't a wax, I use it as a cleaner to get a good base to set the wax on.

I was referring specifically to it's swirl mark masking/filling capabilities. I noticed a serious drop in swirl marks after IHG'ing my dad's black 735il, but within two weeks they were back...because the oils which filled the swirls had evaporated and/or dried up.

That's what I was referring to in particular...

Hmm... Did you IHG it and then wax it? That is wierd that they came back.

Yeah, I noticed that on my dad's 89 535i too Ben... but I don't use it for filling swirls... (car is only 3 months old.... it sure as hell better not have swirls) just for cleaning up stuff on top of the paint. :dunno

A few comments fellas...

Kyle - IHG is probably removing some of your Klasse, if not all. It's a glaze, it's meant to prep and clean a surface for application of a wax on top! Seeing as you're a polymer wax user, IHG shouldn't even really be in your detailing arsenal... :dunno

Ben and Bry - IHG is a glaze...it has fillers, hence the dissappearance of swirls and light scratches after you use it... It will only last one or two washes before those swirls start to reappear b/c YES, the IHG has basically been washed away....

I'm actually considering getting off the Klasse bandwagon... first off, my cousin drove over my bottle of AIO so I now only have SG.. woohoo :rolleyes: Also, I'd like to try the P21S wax to see how it looks. When I first got the car I did a coat of Blitz and it seemed shinier than after I used the AIO and SG... and P21 is supposedly shinier than Blitz...

3M Imperial Hand Glaze is not an abrasive polish like Perfect-It or Meguiar's Swirl Mark Remover. It consists of naphtha, petroleum distillates, and lots and lots of oils.

Say that you have a clearcoated red car with waterspots, swirl marks, and above surface contamination. The naptha and petroleum distillates will dissolve the waterspots. The oils will temporarily fill the swirls, but will evaporate in no time at all. Waxing won't "protect" and seal over these swirl-filling oils...

Oh, IHG does remove Klasse, or any synthetic sealant for that matter.

Originally posted by Kyle K.
I'm actually considering getting off the Klasse bandwagon... first off, my cousin drove over my bottle of AIO so I now only have SG.. woohoo :rolleyes: Also, I'd like to try the P21S wax to see how it looks. When I first got the car I did a coat of Blitz and it seemed shinier than after I used the AIO and SG... and P21 is supposedly shinier than Blitz...

I can't speak from the perspective of Klasse Kyle, but i can tell you this.... I've used many waxes over many years of detailing, and HANDS DOWN, P21S is the best carnauba I've ever used... It's the easiest to apply and remove, and the shine is second to none... I usually use Meg's #7 Glaze or P21S GEPC (Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser) before hand to prep the paint for the carnauba... I can wax my entire car with P21S in about 45 minutes....buffing it off, it comes off like butter.... Doesn't stain black moldings... It's awesome stuff....get some! :alright

I just got the location of a Harley dealer about 15 minutes from my house... I'll definately go pick up some S100 tomorrow. The S100 carnuba is the same stuff as the P21S carnuba right?

It's the EXACT same thing. S100 is actually what I use, but for ease sake, I just say P21S, cuz not everyone knows of S100. There are rumors of S100 being discontinued though soon, so if they still have it, I'd get 2 cans.... You're guaranteed to love it, and at 14 a pop, it's a bargain second to none.

Kyle,

I was using just P21S (S100 actually) and with bad weather coming (yeah, like we have bad weather in Southern California) I was a bit concerned with pure carnuba's durability.

A few weeks ago I put down a layer of Klasse AIO and SG. After puting down the SG I didn't notice much of a difference. I reached for the S100 and threw a layer of this on top of the AIO - wow. Shiney and hopefully more durable.

YES, I've heard P21S is a great "topper" for zaino and/or klasse

Yeah, I would definately do that, except I don't feel like forking over another 20 bucks for more AIO :rolleyes:

Anyway, I just went and bought a bottle of S100, then stopped at Pep Boys for a fill up of IHG (my uncle and aunt both commission me to detail their cars pretty frequently, so we go through this stuff pretty quickly.) Anyway, they were out :( I picked up some Meguiars #7 Show Car Glaze instead... I've heard some good things... I guess its time to try it for myself. I won't have a chance to make my car purty until tomorrow though... my damn english teacher is a nazi :(

Hey guys, 6 things.

1. I just put on IHG, is my next step to wax the car?

2. I put IHG on the car, then wiped it off to make it shiny, I did it correct, right?

3. What is the point of IHG if it is just a glaze, doesn't wax do the same thing but also protect the car from deterioration due to the sun?...so why not just skip IHG?


4. I tried searching but no luck, anyone heard of BMW AutoWachs, straight from the dealer, my 1987 bottle is running low and it works quite well, there a thread for this or you guys have any comments about it? (in a green bottle)

5. Finally, For perfect-it, you guys all buffed it on, right?...b/c doing the hand thing really didn't take off any scratches, so I figured that some heavy duty buffing would be the way, the cloth just took off the red!!!! will the buff work?

6. Lastly, do you guys wax the car after perfect-it?


Thanks.

AHH, you had to bring up this disgrace of a thread?

Honestly, this was back when I thought I knew stuff about detailing :biglaughb, then I found autopia. Just for the record, yes IHG removes Klasse, yes, I was stupid, and no, I don't even use the stuff anymore :rolleyes:

As far as your questions go...

1) yes, definately wax over the IHG, it leaves no protection

2)yes and no, if you just smeared it on without any real rubbing then its full effects won't come through, its not going to hurt anything though. To really get its effects you should work the IHG until it is dry/powdery.

3) The IHG has more oils and fillers than waxes do, it makes a better shine. If you're not showing the car, or obsessed with a perfect shine, it really is an unnecessary step

4) no idea :dunno

5) I assume you're talking about the Perfect It Fine Cut Compound? You can use it with a buffer, but I'd be a little bit careful. It's a pretty harsh cleaner.

6) Yes, definately. Any time you buff anything on to your paint that isn't wax, chances are it removes the wax.

Ryder has it right.

While detailing is like religion. . . there's no right or wrong answers, but lots of fervent, strongly held beliefs, my opinion is this:

IHG, followed by P21S Paintwork Cleanser, then P21S concours carnauba paste, is unparalled.

I've owned 3 black cars in a row (I'm a masochist), since 95. I've tried a boatload of products: Klasse, IHG, Blitz Wax, Mequires 26, Meguires Medallion, Finish First (same as Liquid Glass), Zaino, Zymol. . .can't remember what else.

IHG, and the P12S combo pretty much rocks. Blitz a close second b/c it lasts longer, but it's significantly harder to apply/remove than P21S.

IHG does have a frictional component, basically Kaolin clay particles that are weakly agglomerated and break down to an non abrasive with mild rubbing. The particles are platy in structure, and have only a slight abrasive action. . . but nevertheless they are present.

Damn. Those first replies of mine on this thread were 2 days before my girlfriend broke up with me (she broke up with me on 11/11/02). Hard to believe that that was then. Man, those were good times.

Anywho, that time I IHG'd my dad's 735il is the one and only time I've touched that bottle. Much better stuff out there...

FWIW I just picked up a bottle of 3M Fine Cut Rubbing Compound today. I'll give that a shot tomorrow on the Volvo I'm detailing, side-by side with 3M Finesse It II Machine Polish. We'll see which one looks better with my outfit: a PC 7424 and CMA white (medium cut) pads.