Seemed like any other Monday to me...:dunno

i don't think we have any in clemson, sc.

I don't know why we didn't have INS waiting for them. :rolleyes

A fellow I work with said his lunch at a local restaurant took twice as long because several employees didn't show up for work. :dunno

Seemed like any other Monday to me...:dunno

As a matter of fact, yes. I came home and my lawn was still not mowed.

Slackers. :mad

As a matter of fact, yes. I came home and my lawn was still not mowed.

Slackers. :mad

:rofl :rofl

As a matter of fact, yes. I came home and my lawn was still not mowed.

Slackers. :mad
sorry i forgot


:stickoutt

Smooth sailing in Athens.

As a matter of fact, yes. I came home and my lawn was still not mowed.

Slackers. :mad

I was going to hire a PRO. But end up hiring my neighbor’s son; I believe they are from Mexico. He is no more than 14 yrs old and he did my front&back yard for $60. He was so happy when my fiancé give him the money

I'm lazy so are you.

No ill effects, other than the incessant wailing and gnashing of teeth on the "news" [sic] shows. :rolleyes

actually experienced a bonus, less traffic all day long
win win imho

If I lived in SoCal I'd wish everyday was 'boycott America' day. The highways were wide open at rush hour.

I think it saves money too...you won't go out to dinner as much and maybe cut your own lawn.

If I lived in SoCal I'd wish everyday was 'boycott America' day. The highways were wide open at rush hour.

I think it saves money too...you won't go out to dinner as much and maybe cut your own lawn.
There wasnt anyone on 85N at rush hour last night either. I'm lovin' it.

There wasnt anyone on 85N at rush hour last night either. I'm lovin' it.

I was stunned at how quickly you made it to my house....must've been zero traffic!

I was stunned at how quickly you made it to my house....must've been zero traffic!
tis true.

I made it home in 5-7 minutes versus 30 minutes. Other than that I forgot it even took place.

I don't know why we didn't have INS waiting for them. :rolleyes
That's what should have been done. same thing should have been done when they marched on the the capitol here in ATL.

Its one of those things where if someone is here illegally, but playing nice and being productive... I might be ok with generally looking the other way. You're here illegally and try to stir shit up? No. Not gonna fly.

actually experienced a bonus, less traffic all day long
win win imho

yup, same here too. Traffic on 400 was much better than usual and there weren't as many overloaded white vans or ladders in the middle of the road. :D I'm afraid these protests aren't going to get the effect they want, it just puts the issue in our faces. AND we had an easier day on the roads? Well GTFO, we don't need you if you don't want to be here legally.

We even went to a mexican restaurant last night, no problems. :stickoutt

We even went to a mexican restaurant last night, no problems.
At least, as far as you know, gringo... :paranoid:



;)

:lol

That's what should have been done. same thing should have been done when they marched on the the capitol here in ATL.

Its one of those things where if someone is here illegally, but playing nice and being productive... I might be ok with generally looking the other way. You're here illegally and try to stir shit up? No. Not gonna fly.
I agree 100%. Just work don't try starting shit saying youhave rights, because being an illegal you have no rights in this country as far as I'm concerned.

At least, as far as you know, gringo... :paranoid:

ok, let me rephrase that. No MORE problems than usual after eating way too much spicy mexican food :help

This is such a big issue that I would lose my time posting and opinion here.

I guess since I was borne in Colombia I can see the 2 sides of the coin. And guys let me tell you it's not pretty in the illegal side or your side.

I'm always like to give the benefit of the doubt to anyone. I guess the only thing I can ask is just be a little more open mind, when it comes to this issue.


On my side of the coin I see this: when I go eat at popeyes here down south it takes me forever to get my food I. Guess who is on the other side of, a lazy Afro-American, that has a ghetto attitude that just pisses my off so bad, I can go ahead and generalize and say all Afro-American are like that, but in deed I have Afro-American friends that are really smart and actually heat those kind of people. I hate the kind of Mexican that drinks and drive like they were back on Mexico if they want to do that sh!t here, sent his ass back to Mexico. But I don’t want to generalize and some of them built the new limber Plaza. Built mall of Georgia and discover mill. Hundreds are rebuilding Louisiana. Illegal or not they do good and bad to society here, the deal is on developing a system that separates the bad from the good, the assets from the felons.

I can see this issue as a drug issue, if we can not get rib of the demand there is going to be always to supply. I see a lot of students getting high, and they do not know the damage they are doing to society, by keeping the demand.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if there wasn't a need for them they would not come here, and because there is a demand for them legalize the good ones charge them a fine and with that built a wall so we cut the supply.

The main reason for the demand for illegal laborers is that employers can pay them less than minimum wage, and rarely withhold taxes from their salaries.

"Legalizing the good ones" will do nothing more than encourage both good and bad to flood across the border.

The fact that the Mexican government actually encourages illegal immigration makes the issue even worse in my eyes.

Other than that, I didn't notice much of an effect out here in D-Vegas. I did watch the news to see if there were any shenanigans though...

Carter

I guess what I'm trying to say is if there wasn't a need for them they would not come here, and because there is a demand for them legalize the good ones charge them a fine and with that built a wall so we cut the supply.

A wall would keep out only the illegal immigrants. The bottom line is as follows:

hard-working tax-paying legal immigrants = good
illegal immigrants = bad

It really is that simple.

I just realized that I was dramatically affected by the lack of mexicans on monday. I was supposed to have 100 bales of pine straw delivered and it never showed...not even a courtesy phone call.

I just realized that I was dramatically affected by the lack of mexicans on monday. I was supposed to have 100 bales of pine straw delivered and it never showed...not even a courtesy phone call.

My neighbor was supposed to have hardwood floors put down yesterday....same thing, never showed, no call...nothing...

Someone explain to me why many of the protesters were holding signs and yelling, "Today we march, Tomorrow we vote!" If you are an illegal alien, how are you going to vote? I thought you had to be registered to vote and to register I thought you had to be a citizen. Also, the Constitution protects citizens' rights to free speech, etc. It does not protect aliens' rights.

Am I wrong? If so, please correct me.

I know the illegals GIVE a lot to our country, but they TAKE a lot also. Just look at our school systems. We have to pay tons of extra taxes to hire bilingual teachers and have programs that teach hispanic children how to speak English. ESOL (English as a Second Language) is not cheap. Also, more teachers, more schools, more supplies aren't cheap. Many illegals do not pay taxes because they are afraid of getting caught. If you look at jails, how many of those incarcerated are illegal hispanics? Our jails are full of people that should not even be in this country. Also, how many illegals show up to hospitals without insurance? Hospitals have to treat them. It is the law. But the illegals are not paying for the visits through taxes or anything. They can also mooch off of federal aid such as medicare. It's all a drain on the system.

I don't care if they are here, and it's great that they contribute to society. But, if they are going to use government services, they should have to pay for them just like everyone else. If they don't, all the legal citizens are just subsidizing illegals' education and healthcare. I would rather pay a little more for my lawn getting cut, pinestraw spread, and even my house being built if it meant my taxes were going to go down.

Sorry for the rant, but it is finals week and I don't feel like studying....

I thought you had to be registered to vote and to register I thought you had to be a citizen.
Not anymore. There are many places in the country where the dead rise from their graves to cast votes.

they all came to work for me . . .

they all came to work for me . . .
wtf have you been?

they all came to work for me . . .

Move to ATL and return phone calls or die.

I got thrown out of Blockbuster last night because of an immigrant. I was somewhat in the wrong, maybe.... does this immigration bill extend to those coming in from lets say... Ghana?

I got thrown out of Blockbuster last night because of an immigrant. I was somewhat in the wrong, maybe.... does this immigration bill extend to those coming in from lets say... Ghana?
story time!

story time!
+1 :eatpop:

Yeah, what happened?

:eatpop:

Speak!

Speak!
This is a good time for you to start using your new sig. :devillook

story time!

Fine...so this whole immigrant rights thing just pisses me off. You want to be a citizen? Great, do it the legal way. But as far as the fence jumpers and Visa dodgers and stow-aways...ship them the fuck back to their own country. M3Hellrot described my feelings pretty accurately so I won't go into that.

On to the story...

I was at Blockbuster last night by Delk road :shifty Trying to rent a PS2 game so I could relax and numb my brain after a hellish day at work. I am standing behind 1 person, who is being helped at the counter at the moment. The person working acknowledges that I am there and finishes up with the customer in front of me. Since I am not standing in the "designated" queue, another person walks up and waits. The customer in front leaves and I proceed to the front desk. The employee stops me and says "That guy was in line before you." I had been standing there for a good few minutes before the person gets in line behind me. I told the person I was waiting there first..that she saw me. She said, "Well you weren't in line, he is first." Then Kunta Kinte pipes up and says (in a THICK african accent), "Yes, you, move, I was here before you!"

I snapped...I said don't you have a march to be at?! He response was "I am from Ghana not Mexico, I can be here if I want to, now get out of my way." Then his fat little wife/gf piped up and said you heard them...move. They got in front of me and sneered. So I proceeded to yell at the cashier that is she fucking blind and she told me that she did not appreciate the immigrant comment because her family is brazilian. Then I told them they all need to go the fuck back to their respective countries because we don't need them here, blah blah blah. In the end I was told to leave before the cops came.

Like I said, I don't have anything against people that come into this country and respect what they have earned and acheived by coming here legally and making a life for themselves and their family (my grandparents came from Italy). But if you come here and expect that shit is owed to you, fuck that. Take a long walk off a short cliff. I have not been that mad in a while.

Fine...so this whole immigrant rights thing just pisses me off. You want to be a citizen? Great, do it the legal way. But as far as the fence jumpers and Visa dodgers and stow-aways...ship them the fuck back to their own country. M3Hellrot described my feelings pretty accurately so I won't go into that.

On to the story...

I was at Blockbuster last night by Delk road :shifty Trying to rent a PS2 game so I could relax and numb my brain after a hellish day at work. I am standing behind 1 person, who is being helped at the counter at the moment. The person working acknowledges that I am there and finishes up with the customer in front of me. Since I am not standing in the "designated" queue, another person walks up and waits. The customer in front leaves and I proceed to the front desk. The employee stops me and says "That guy was in line before you." I had been standing there for a good few minutes before the person gets in line behind me. I told the person I was waiting there first..that she saw me. She said, "Well you weren't in line, he is first." Then Kunta Kinte pipes up and says (in a THICK african accent), "Yes, you, move, I was here before you!"

I snapped...I said don't you have a march to be at?! He response was "I am from Ghana not Mexico, I can be here if I want to, now get out of my way." Then his fat little wife/gf piped up and said you heard them...move. They got in front of me and sneered. So I proceeded to yell at the cashier that is she fucking blind and she told me that she did not appreciate the immigrant comment because her family is brazilian. Then I told them they all need to go the fuck back to their respective countries because we don't need them here, blah blah blah. In the end I was told to leave before the cops came.

Like I said, I don't have anything against people that come into this country and respect what they have earned and acheived by coming here legally and making a life for themselves and their family (my grandparents came from Italy). But if you come here and expect that shit is owed to you, fuck that. Take a long walk off a short cliff. I have not been that mad in a while.
we'll wait until the cashier leaves work and then strike.


Seriously though, complain to BlockBuster about you were mistreated by that worker and she sneered at you and get her ass fired. Fucking complain to the ACLU if you have to :lol and tell them you're taking your business elsewhere, as are all your friends.

Remember, if you have a great time at a place you tell approximately 3 people. If you have a bad experience you tell around 15 people so tell them to figure that shit out.

I was affected, it was 10 x easier to park. :)

I was at Blockbuster last night by Delk road
See, there's your first mistake right there. Not much good along Delk any more. :az

This is a good time for you to start using your new sig. :devillook

I don't want the inevitable TO!

I don't want the inevitable TO!
And you call yourself evil... :rolleyes

I have not been that mad in a while.

You should've come to the baseball game...

:cool

You should've come to the baseball game...

:cool

I should have, but thanks to our stupid as coworkers in Miami not realizing how big of an impact an issue I am working on has, I dont get to enjoy the things like leaving work at a normal time.

But oh well, such is life :( :help

As a matter of fact, yes. I came home and my lawn was still not mowed.

Slackers. :mad
Thats is so wrong.:lol :lol

Didn't phase me a bit. Matter of fact, I work with a really good firewall/security guy from Guadalajara and he said that he didn't even consider staying home.

I was suprised to see Telemundo and Univision airing yesterday.

Move to ATL and return phone calls or die.

:eek:

I know, you have been on my to call list for 2 months. I'll call you tonight if I get out of here at a human hour.

:eek:

I know, you have been on my to call list for 2 months. I'll call you tonight if I get out of here at a human hour.
I miss Dr. Phil. :(

I don't have anything against people that come into this country and respect what they have earned and acheived by coming here legally and making a life for themselves and their family (my grandparents came from Italy).

DAMN! WTF is wrong with you. How do you know they were illegal? Holl crap that is the most intolerant story I have heard anyone admit to in a long time. You really went off like that because the guy got in front of you in line? You're lucky he had the control to not coldcock you when you asked him if he had a march to go to.

get her ass fired.

I hope you're not serious.

I can see how being there would infuriate you but the story does sound pretty harmless. I've got far worse 'that damned immigrant!' stories from my 24 years in Miami. I became numb to it after a while.

I think the course of action is to not go back to blockbuster.

DAMN! WTF is wrong with you. How do you know they were illegal? Holl crap that is the most intolerant story I have heard anyone admit to in a long time. You really went off like that because the guy got in front of you in line? You're lucky he had the control to not coldcock you when you asked him if he had a march to go to.

So you agree that Brett should've shot him?

I hope you're not serious.

If a cashier allowed someone to cut in line before me knowing I was waiting there and then ridiculed me you better believe im serious.

If a cashier allowed someone to cut in line before me knowing I was waiting there and then ridiculed me you better believe im serious.

hmmm. It didn't sound like the cashier ridiculed him, but ok! :dunno I guess I like to pretend I have better things to do, and it seems a little harsh to ruin someone's potential livelyhood because I lost my temper.

Just for amusement....I saw this in an email...I have no idea if any of this is true, but if so, it is troubling:

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).

(All 10 of the above statistics are from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.
(Source: http://www.cis.org/ )

Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.

The cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

What is a realistic solution to this problem? I think we should draft one up...

What is a realistic solution to this problem? I think we should draft one up...

I think sealing the border has to be the first step. But I really cannot come up with a realistic option for dealing with the 12+ million illegals who are already here...

:ponder

I think sealing the border has to be the first step. But I really cannot come up with a realistic option for dealing with the 12+ million illegals who are already here...

:ponder

Build a wall and place sharpshooters at regular intervals. You can leave all you wish but you cannot come in unless it's through a checkpoint. If you try to sneak in, oh well your ass is grass and going back in a body bag. :devillook

:dunno It could work.

Just for amusement....I saw this in an email...I have no idea if any of this is true, but if so, it is troubling:
Ooh, that's a big red flag whenever I see it.

Snopes.com says the stats in that e-mail vary in accuracy.

Link: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp

I think sealing the border has to be the first step. But I really cannot come up with a realistic option for dealing with the 12+ million illegals who are already here...

:ponder
In agreement with the first step...but it does get a bit cloudy once we get to the 12 mil that are already here. Perhaps instead of housing these individuals in our prisons, rather than have a 6 month wait for a trial we should open up an express lane for deportation, that will at least eliminate the severe criminals.

on a side note... theres a neiborhood that is connected to mine which i cut through daily...recently i've seen a large number of houses for sale, one of these houses was bought by like 7 or 8 mexicans (I know they're mexican because they have flags on ALL of their cars) anyway, they look like they just came from LA due to the "LA" decals on their windows, the point is we have had 2 break ins in the past week on my street. These new guys look like gangsters, with their bandanas and tats. I am keeping a close eye over their place and have all weapons in the house at 'convinient' locations loaded and ready to go...I'm praying for a break in :evil2

Ooh, that's a big red flag whenever I see it.

I agree....hence my disclaimer!! Just trying to get some conversation started. I could care less if the stats are accurate!

:cool

I think sealing the border has to be the first step. But I really cannot come up with a realistic option for dealing with the 12+ million illegals who are already here...

:ponder

+1

the wall sounds good but do you remember the berlin's wall, we can have something like that here, just to make it better so David Hasselhoff can't bring it down.

For the ones that are here........:confused Maybe give a work permit to the ones how want to go back once they make their money, but tax'em good, coz the money is going out of the US. And the ones that want to be an asset to the US and have been here for X time, give them green cards so they can pay taxes and answer to the same laws as any othe US. citizen.

The bad ones can help built the wall and do less time in jail, after that sent them back home, Mexico guatemala salvador honduras wherever they are from.

just a thought.

on a side note... theres a neiborhood that is connected to mine which i cut through daily...recently i've seen a large number of houses for sale, one of these houses was bought by like 7 or 8 mexicans (I know they're mexican because they have flags on ALL of their cars) anyway, they look like they just came from LA due to the "LA" decals on their windows, the point is we have had 2 break ins in the past week on my street. These new guys look like gangsters, with their bandanas and tats. I am keeping a close eye over their place and have all weapons in the house at 'convinient' locations loaded and ready to go...I'm praying for a break in :evil2

You're such a badass. :shifty

http://articles.news.aol.com/business/article.adp?id=20060510011009990007

This is awesome!! Too bad they didn't have the balls to keep using it...:rolleyes Gerard, were you involoved in the recording of this ringtone?

http://articles.news.aol.com/business/article.adp?id=20060510011009990007

This is awesome!! Too bad they didn't have the balls to keep using it...:rolleyes Gerard, were you involoved in the recording of this ringtone?
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