hnoppenberger
04-30-2006, 11:38 PM
is it really a pain to remove the sealant after its dry? im attracted to it becuase of its really long life...
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View Full Version : klasse SG hard to remove? hnoppenberger 04-30-2006, 11:38 PM is it really a pain to remove the sealant after its dry? im attracted to it becuase of its really long life... JohnZ3MC 05-01-2006, 12:19 AM It is a bear to remove when it's dry. Try spritzing with a little QD now, buff with a microfiber and that should help remove it. For the next time, don't let it dry. I know it's not what the bottle says but disregard the bottle directions. Apply it thin to a small area, maybe 2x2 ft. Then buff it with a MF towel immediately. No drying. Do the next area the same way and repeat until the car is done. Wipe on, wipe off is the secret to a successful SG application. Been there, done that. -John C. hnoppenberger 05-01-2006, 01:10 AM would you say its the toughest longest lastimg sealant out there or is there better? fisherbln 05-01-2006, 02:09 AM Longevity and durability have many many factors including weather, frequency of washing, method of application (number of layers, prep work, etc), driving conditions, etc. That said, I find that Zaino will provide the longest durability in most cases, especially when followed with Z8 after every couple of washes. I really suggest www.detailersclub.com/forums (The guy that wrote the Detailing 101 article hangs out over there). That and autopia.org have taught me TONS. If you want to get even more choices, there is also collinite wax. It is known for durability as well (and is a wax, not sealant). There are MANY, MANY choices that will provide very similar results, the solution is subjective and therefore, it is very hard for any of us to say there is a "best" wax/sealant. awahl63 05-01-2006, 09:45 AM check out www.autopia.org for two writeups on the different ways of applying and removing SG Laxpunk2006 05-01-2006, 10:24 AM I feel like I've been saying this a lot recently but it's for a reason. Prep work is key to durability and to looks. It's hard to choose and absolute best sealant, but SG is definitely among them. Another product to check out would be Jeff Werkstatt's products. http://www.jeffswerkstatt.com/ SG can be a pain to remove if you let it dry, but it's not the end of the world. You can mist it with a QD as JohnZ3MC suggested. You can also simply apply more SG over it and then wipe it off. Remember science class, likes disolve likes. Do small area's at a time and work in the shade. T56 Impala 05-01-2006, 01:09 PM To remove dried SG I use a damp, not wet, mf towel. I have found that this works well with dried AIO also. Sg will come off but dry, but you will be to use some elbow grease to do it. FWIW, I still havent gotten the s100 on my car. Seems something else is always going on. Rain, kids, honey do's.......you know the drill. Its hard for me to believe that the s100 will add anymore shine to the paint after the 3 coats of SG. It looks sooooo good now! Anyway, good luck! Landerholm 05-01-2006, 09:57 PM Once I applied SG to my windows (which is working great nothing sticks to them now!) but I let it dry (I was too slow) and it must have taken me HOURS to get it all off! If you think dried SG on paint is bad put some on your glass. Wait; dont. Lol. hnoppenberger 05-01-2006, 10:08 PM i dont mind the grunt work as long as it wont hurt the paint if its that hard to take off... no chance of scratching the paint if its that hard to take off? fisherbln 05-02-2006, 04:58 PM i dont mind the grunt work as long as it wont hurt the paint if its that hard to take off... no chance of scratching the paint if its that hard to take off? Well, there is always a chance of scratching the paint when you are rubbing on it. Just make sure to use a high quality MF or terry cloth towel. Also, try not to rub hard, it is better to make several light passes than one with a lot of pressure. Ryan328i 05-02-2006, 05:48 PM One of the keys with SG is to apply it very thin. So thin that you think it's too thin almost, especially if you're doing multiple coats because then you're ensuring full coverage. If it dried it does become difficult to remove, misting with QD helps but it's still not easy. Make sure you use a quality MF towel like fisherbln said. I never like to use much force on my paint so try and do small areas at a time and wipe it off before it dries. It will save you time and head aches in the long run. +1 for AIO and SG on windows. I've hit all my windows with the PC and AIO and it's not so much that it really cleans them anymore but it does but a sort of barrier there. The water beads like crazy and doesn't stick at all when driving. hnoppenberger 05-02-2006, 09:13 PM i think im gonna go with sg as a sealant then. it SOUNDS like its a hardcore protectant. i like zaino, but hey i figure lets try this. my car is alpine, so no wax at all even looks awesome on it after its washed :rolleyes im more interested in keeping it protected. thanks for all the help guys. i forgot which kind of MFS i use but i wanna say they were meguirs brand... i ripped the tags off them... fisherbln 05-03-2006, 12:26 AM Good luck! I'm sure you will be happy with the AIO/SG combo. You might consider some more MF towels when you make you detailing order. It is up to you though (and how much more you want to spend), I think you might be amazed with some of the latest ones and their quality. I use pakshak.com for my towels needs, but there are plenty of other good suppliers, (exceldetail.com, autogeek.net, and many more). Laxpunk2006 05-03-2006, 11:38 AM Good luck! I'm sure you will be happy with the AIO/SG combo. You might consider some more MF towels when you make you detailing order. It is up to you though (and how much more you want to spend), I think you might be amazed with some of the latest ones and their quality. I use pakshak.com for my towels needs, but there are plenty of other good suppliers, (exceldetail.com, autogeek.net, and many more). I'm going to have to agree here. You can NEVER have too many MF's once you get into full details. I have about a dozen from Chemical Guys, a Guzzler from Autogeek, about 9 Vroom's, a few Meguiars and I still feel like I don't have enough when it comes time to do my car. Next on my list is 2 5 packs from Pakshak.com and a few Glass Waffle Weaves. fisherbln 05-03-2006, 05:28 PM I'm going to have to agree here. You can NEVER have too many MF's once you get into full details. I have about a dozen from Chemical Guys, a Guzzler from Autogeek, about 9 Vroom's, a few Meguiars and I still feel like I don't have enough when it comes time to do my car. Next on my list is 2 5 packs from Pakshak.com and a few Glass Waffle Weaves. HAHA, yeah, I kinda went crazy and have 60+ from pakshak now... Not sure I'll ever be able to use all of them at once, but they sure are pretty. :buttrock In all reality, I can use almost half of them on a FULL detail day. But I prefer this so I can have enough to do two cars without having to stop and wash everything. Ryan328i 05-03-2006, 06:24 PM I've always heard that pakshak.com is a good spot for towels but I still haven't ordered from them. The majorit of my MF towels are from Autogeek. I always seem to get a few here and there when I place an order through them. Waffle weaves are excellent for drying, I can't recommend them enough. I'm going to have to order some towels from pakshak in the near future I think. Steve530 05-04-2006, 12:57 AM Its hard for me to believe that the s100 will add anymore shine to the paint after the 3 coats of SG. It looks sooooo good now! Try the S100. It doesn't add to the shine, but the carnuba does look very nice. Less like the car is wraped in plastic, more depth, I suppose. hnoppenberger 05-04-2006, 01:13 AM im in that predicament. i use about half my MFS when i detail my car.. id say i have 20 or more.... picus 05-04-2006, 08:45 AM I've got literally hundreds of mfs, but it's good to keep 'em fresh. On that note I think I might grab some of these: http://secure.detailedimage.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=DI&Product_Code=May4 Landerholm 05-06-2006, 04:21 AM Gurus, is it okay to apply SG then when youre removing it directly after, to use a MF damp with Quick Detailer? It helps pick up the SG better but I was wondering if the (non-caranuba based) Quick Detailer would prevent the SG from setting right. picus 05-06-2006, 09:53 AM Gurus, is it okay to apply SG then when youre removing it directly after, to use a MF damp with Quick Detailer? It helps pick up the SG better but I was wondering if the (non-caranuba based) Quick Detailer would prevent the SG from setting right. Yep, it's absolutely ok. |